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architect buddy talked me in to walking High Line. i wasn't all too keen on it.. sounded boring. totally changed my opinion after walking on it the first time. amazing, i thought. would walk again.

 
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El Floppo said:
and I exaggerate...

Labor day weekend we went out to Playland (surprisingly empty- no lines) and saw Lion King with the kids (3rd row center- the wife got the tickets through some crazy NYC ID disounter half a year ago... amazing seats). pretty banner weekend.
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Rye Playland? How is that place?

We were debating doing this a few weeks ago, then settled on Great Adventure, and then switched to the Liberty Science Center. Highly recommend getting your kids to that place, great family outing.

 
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scorchy said:
Looks like @JZilla and I are headed to NYC for 3-4 nights the week after Thanksgiving.  Scored tickets to 4 sold-out Hold Steady shows at Brooklyn Bowl in Greenpoint Nov 30 - Dec 3 and could use some advice on lodging (and will probably ask later about bars/food and such).  
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Finally got around to checking into AirBnB.  Following everyone's advice I stuck with Williamsburg but within a mile of Brooklyn Bowl so that we can walk to and from unless it's freezing.  Any thoughts on the locations of these 3 for day-drinking, food, and record shopping or are they all close enough together that it doesn't really matter?

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/12402601?wl_source=list&wl_id=174459797&role=owner&check_in=2016-11-30&check_out=2016-12-04&guests=2&sug=50

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4098085?wl_source=list&wl_id=174459797&role=owner&check_in=2016-11-30&check_out=2016-12-04&guests=2&sug=50

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1876810?wl_source=list&wl_id=174459797&role=owner&check_in=2016-11-30&check_out=2016-12-04&guests=2&sug=50

Gracias!

 
Matthias said:
I still don't understand the appeal. Been up there a handful of times. Can anyone explain?
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i'll do my best

1) it's green space in the middle of concrete and tall buildings. it really is refreshing to step up there. or maybe it was just me because the day i walked the park it was middle 90s. 

2) the architectural detail in the walkway, the benches, the grasses along the side of the path, the sort of indentations in the path where you can stop off and look over the ground below without being in the way of foot traffic.

3) it offers a different vantage point of the city

4) the fact that NY took the time and money to use what was dead space, and could have been replaced with some other money making venture, to build a public space that's now being used as a guidepost for other city parks. it's innovative. 

 
mr. furley said:
i'll do my best

1) it's green space in the middle of concrete and tall buildings. it really is refreshing to step up there. or maybe it was just me because the day i walked the park it was middle 90s. 

2) the architectural detail in the walkway, the benches, the grasses along the side of the path, the sort of indentations in the path where you can stop off and look over the ground below without being in the way of foot traffic.

3) it offers a different vantage point of the city

4) the fact that NY took the time and money to use what was dead space, and could have been replaced with some other money making venture, to build a public space that's now being used as a guidepost for other city parks. it's innovative. 
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It's a very well designed and activated public space... changes with the seasons but holds continuity.  Any space in NYC is just so valuable - to have created this much of a linear public space, interconnecting neighborhoods with a number of experiences along the way, is a true achievement.  Helps provide balance to the street level infrastructure below, as a purely pedestrian experience.

 
What Furley and Koya said. If you lived in NYC pre Highline, you really appreciate it.  I remember when it was a vacant railroad and sort of an eyesore.  Anytime you can add green space into Manhattan you do it. Big fan.  Ideal place to take your neighbor for a coffee and embrace in a platonic hug. 

 
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ditto- what they're all saying.

I"ve always loved the highline... it was the typical NYC architecture student's go-to thesis/dream-project. 

Diller-Scofidio are amongst the best architects alive- and they designed the #### out of that. 

being off and above the street is amazing every time I"m up there- and the views up and down 10th ave are pretty great, especially where you cross over. 

eta: that said, the design never expected the enoromous crowds, IMO- too narrow, too difficult to manoever for those of us who don't like being hemmed in. (stay to the right, dammit).

 
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my architect buddy was just gushing the entire time we were walking the path. every little detail. talking about the various architectural highlights, the buildings around us, the importance of what the park represented to the architecture community, etc.  really made me appreciate it a lot more than i would otherwise have, i think.

 
mr. furley said:
my architect buddy was just gushing the entire time we were walking the path. every little detail. talking about the various architectural highlights, the buildings around us, the importance of what the park represented to the architecture community, etc.  really made me appreciate it a lot more than i would otherwise have, i think.
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The part I really love is that it's spurred a whole bunch of redevelopment and most of it (sans whatever they're building in Hudson Yards and the narrow part in the high 20s) is visually interesting (or at least very different from any other part of Manhattan).

 I don't know how many weekend days we've gotten lunch at Lobster Place in Chelsea Market and eaten it in that overhang of 10th.  So much so that we are sort of blase about it now which is sort of sad.

 
Redwes25 said:
Love the city/weather in September.  Best time of year for NYC in my mind.  
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Yep, I miss that energy after Labor Day.  The summering crowd gets back, the tourists die down and the weather is just about perfect.  Only negative is you know the winter is coming.

 
Redwes25 said:
Love the city/weather in September.  Best time of year for NYC in my mind.  
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The whole area is super awesome for like 6 weeks.  The first half still have plenty of 70 degree plus days. Usually sunny as it's a dry time of year. Second half gets cooler and crisper, and more colorful.  Fall here on Long Island is just spectacular.  Festivals, fairs and football.  

In the prettier burbs, the lower angle of the sun just makes things glisten while everything is still blue skies and green leaves.  The water is still warm as ####, sweet sailing and if you head to a beach community (tourist type, no one comes to mine, for example - and thank goodness) it's more serene, you can get into the restaurants and down the street.  

North Fork of Long Island is just perfect at this time.  Hit some wineries and stay in Greenport.  

I presume some areas of Jersey must be nice, but whatevs... it's ####### jersey.

 
Koya said:
The whole area is super awesome for like 6 weeks.  The first half still have plenty of 70 degree plus days. Usually sunny as it's a dry time of year. Second half gets cooler and crisper, and more colorful.  Fall here on Long Island is just spectacular.  Festivals, fairs and football.  

In the prettier burbs, the lower angle of the sun just makes things glisten while everything is still blue skies and green leaves.  The water is still warm as ####, sweet sailing and if you head to a beach community (tourist type, no one comes to mine, for example - and thank goodness) it's more serene, you can get into the restaurants and down the street.  

North Fork of Long Island is just perfect at this time.  Hit some wineries and stay in Greenport.  

I presume some areas of Jersey must be nice, but whatevs... it's ####### jersey.
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Jersey Shore is great in early September (was their last weekend) and the beaches are still great but no one is there.  

Agree the North Fork is great in the fall.

 
Redwes25 said:
Jersey Shore is great in early September (was their last weekend) and the beaches are still great but no one is there.  

Agree the North Fork is great in the fall.
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I was just rippin' on Jersey.  My dad has a place in Ocean City, MD. Generally, I can't stand that hell hole during high season.  But when I've hit up the condo in Sept, it's pretty solid all around.

 
Koya said:
I was just rippin' on Jersey.  My dad has a place in Ocean City, MD. Generally, I can't stand that hell hole during high season.  But when I've hit up the condo in Sept, it's pretty solid all around.
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my inlaws have houses near OC, MD (on the mainland). assateague is awesome all year. OC proper... bleh. not my scene (wife calls it the white trash riviera)

 
I have been thinking about our trip in April and really want to come back.  i imagine the weather in fall is about the same as we had when we were there in April.  We had blue skies, cool and crisp. :)

 
Mad Cow said:
I have been thinking about our trip in April and really want to come back.  i imagine the weather in fall is about the same as we had when we were there in April.  We had blue skies, cool and crisp. :)
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:goodposting:

Exactly the same.  Was one of the best trips of my life!

 
Mad Cow said:
I have been thinking about our trip in April and really want to come back.  i imagine the weather in fall is about the same as we had when we were there in April.  We had blue skies, cool and crisp. :)
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late april and may- exactly the same... just awesome.

except for the blooming flowers and my allergies. 

 
El Floppo said:
late april and may- exactly the same... just awesome.

except for the blooming flowers and my allergies. 
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The difference is not the weather (if anything, it's dryer now), but the attitude. 

There is an odd hectic calm this time of year. Everyone is getting back into full work mode, but the routine is living oriented. Work, dinner, some drinks, maybe one weekend night out on the town, football (maybe after brunch) on Sundays.   Rinse and repeat, get into the swing of things and look forward to breaking out the sweaters soon.

Spring has a certain magical element. The first really nice day when all the girls are showing off their not yet tanned legs.  That excitement as the memories of grey and brown snow piles melt away.  

I'd say spring is more magical with a lightness to it, while fall is more energizing between the focus on work and the ever more crisp days. 

 
Koya said:
The difference is not the weather (if anything, it's dryer now), but the attitude. 

There is an odd hectic calm this time of year. Everyone is getting back into full work mode, but the routine is living oriented. Work, dinner, some drinks, maybe one weekend night out on the town, football (maybe after brunch) on Sundays.   Rinse and repeat, get into the swing of things and look forward to breaking out the sweaters soon.

Spring has a certain magical element. The first really nice day when all the girls are showing off their not yet tanned legs.  That excitement as the memories of grey and brown snow piles melt away.  

I'd say spring is more magical with a lightness to it, while fall is more energizing between the focus on work and the ever more crisp days. 
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amazeballingly well said.

I've always felt that both seasons, especially at their onset, consistently bring out a sense of hopefulness in me... love both.

 
Coming in on Monday for 5 days on a road trip. Last time we used a parking garage near the hotel but driving around to get there was hell. Is there a place we can park our car for 5 days and uber in? I was think JFK or Laguardia but those don't seem like great options. 

 
Capella said:
Coming in on Monday for 5 days on a road trip. Last time we used a parking garage near the hotel but driving around to get there was hell. Is there a place we can park our car for 5 days and uber in? I was think JFK or Laguardia but those don't seem like great options. 
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I don't know how much crap you're lugging with you or where in NYC your ultimate destination is, but as a former Jersey born & bred, there are lots of places along the PATH or NJ Transit train lines to park and ride a train in.  Look near Exchange Place for the PATH or anywhere along the NE Corridor line for NJ Transit.  Either way, I think the lines terminate at or near Penn Station (33rd St.) so this may not be a great choice if you need to get way uptown. 

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I don't know how much crap you're lugging with you or where in NYC your ultimate destination is, but as a former Jersey born & bred, there are lots of places along the PATH or NJ Transit train lines to park and ride a train in.  Look near Exchange Place for the PATH or anywhere along the NE Corridor line for NJ Transit.  Either way, I think the lines terminate at or near Penn Station (33rd St.) so this may not be a great choice if you need to get way uptown. 
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Secaucus Junction is the closest NJ Transit stop to the city. You're looking at a 10 minute train into Penn. Uber would likely take a decent amount longer depending on time of day. No clue on price but it's a huge lot so I think you'd be okay getting a spot at any given time. Definitely check into it first though.

If you want to try something a little more out of the ordinary but perfectly safe, there's a parking garage a couple of blocks from my place in Hoboken that usually charges $10/day. Park there and Uber into the city for maybe $30? Closer than Secaucus. 

http://littlemanparking.com/garage/packard-parking-llc/

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I don't know how much crap you're lugging with you or where in NYC your ultimate destination is, but as a former Jersey born & bred, there are lots of places along the PATH or NJ Transit train lines to park and ride a train in.  Look near Exchange Place for the PATH or anywhere along the NE Corridor line for NJ Transit.  Either way, I think the lines terminate at or near Penn Station (33rd St.) so this may not be a great choice if you need to get way uptown. 
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####ing huge suitcase :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  

going to manhattan too. 

 
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RUSF18 said:
Secaucus Junction is the closest NJ Transit stop to the city. You're looking at a 10 minute train into Penn. Uber would likely take a decent amount longer depending on time of day. No clue on price but it's a huge lot so I think you'd be okay getting a spot at any given time. Definitely check into it first though.

If you want to try something a little more out of the ordinary but perfectly safe, there's a parking garage a couple of blocks from my place in Hoboken that usually charges $10/day. Park there and Uber into the city for maybe $30? Closer than Secaucus. 

http://littlemanparking.com/garage/packard-parking-llc/
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This seems to work great. Thanks. :thumbup; 

 
Capella said:
This seems to work great. Thanks. :thumbup; 
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Assuming you mean the Hoboken option...you're a block from an awesome beer garden. Leave your bags in the car a bit longer and go get yourself a huge warm pretzel and a big ### beer. I recommend Kostrizer. 

Or go a little further east and get some drinks here at Pier 13.

Okay I'm done pitching Hoboken.

 
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Assuming you mean the Hoboken option...you're a block from an awesome beer garden. Leave your bags in the car a bit longer and go get yourself a huge warm pretzel and a big ### beer. I recommend Kostrizer. 

Or go a little further east and get some drinks here at Pier 13.

Okay I'm done pitching Hoboken.
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I (barely) remember the days of Power Hour at the Cadillac Bar.  Pretty sure I was asked to leave there one night..... before 7 PM.  And I had worked a full day before arriving.  Yikes.

 
Update from the gentrifying hood: 20 year old man shot dead in the street last night a block from my house. And that is all the detail I can find. Barely warrants a mention in the news I guess and the cops blocking the street wouldn't give me any information.  Good times.  

 
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Nick Vermeil said:
Update from the gentrifying hood: 20 year old man shot dead in the street last night a block from my house. And that is all the detail I can find. Barely warrants a mention in the news I guess and the cops blocking the street wouldn't give me any information.  Good times.  
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after the weekend, can't really blame the media- a kid getting shot in bed stuy isn't very... sexy. once they go through the surveillance footage, I'm sure it'll be up on NY1. google link

 
Capella said:
Thanks. We also used your parking spot idea. Should I get reservations?
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If they'll take it, can't hurt. I have no clue what sort of crowd would be there tonight but this place is ### to balls during playoff games/Olympic hockey, not to mention pre- and post-NYR games. So while I haven't personally seen much WCOH excitement around here compared to the Olympics for instance, I'd expect it to have at least a solid crowd. Worth a call if you don't want to risk standing. Otherwise if you show up a half hour ahead you'll probably find a spot at the bar. 

 
RUSF18 said:
If they'll take it, can't hurt. I have no clue what sort of crowd would be there tonight but this place is ### to balls during playoff games/Olympic hockey, not to mention pre- and post-NYR games. So while I haven't personally seen much WCOH excitement around here compared to the Olympics for instance, I'd expect it to have at least a solid crowd. Worth a call if you don't want to risk standing. Otherwise if you show up a half hour ahead you'll probably find a spot at the bar. 
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Thanks. We are like two blocks away from msg so we'll cruise over early. 

 
Capella said:
Thanks. We are like two blocks away from msg so we'll cruise over early. 
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:thumbup:  I think the only food I've had there are the warm pretzels so I can definitely recommend those. 

You picked an interesting week to be in midtown given the bombing/UN stuff. How are you liking it?

 
RUSF18 said:
:thumbup:  I think the only food I've had there are the warm pretzels so I can definitely recommend those. 

You picked an interesting week to be in midtown given the bombing/UN stuff. How are you liking it?
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My wife's favorite food. 

The amount of police out here is comforting, but I have to admit I thought "oh ####" when I first heard the location. Having a great time though. 

 
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Not sure if it's in the cards for you today but if you're looking for something awesome on your walk back from Rock Center towards your hotel, I recommend getting a cuban sandwich at Cafe Margon. 46th between 6th and 7th. 

 
RUSF18 said:
Not sure if it's in the cards for you today but if you're looking for something awesome on your walk back from Rock Center towards your hotel, I recommend getting a cuban sandwich at Cafe Margon. 46th between 6th and 7th. 
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Hmmm. Interesting. I'm from Tampa. Might try that. 

 
Capella said:
Hmmm. Interesting. I'm from Tampa. Might try that. 
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It's legit. You'll know as soon as you walk in. There might not be a sign but you order sandwiches towards the front. Towards the back is where they have the big trays of stewed oxtail and other random meats.

I've mentioned it probably 10x in this thread so apologies to the OGs.

 
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