NFC South (1 Viewer)

[QUEZILLA]

I never would have thought the NFC South would fare so well this season. The biggest surprise is the Atlanta Falcons, but NO is only 1 game back.

Here are the PFT power rankings.

1. New York Giants (10-1).

2. New York Jets (8-3).

3. Tennessee Titans (10-1).

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-3).

5. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3).

6. Carolina Panthers (8-3).

7. Indianapolis Colts (7-4).

8. New England Patriots (7-4).

9. Atlanta Falcons (7-4).

18. New Orleans Saints (6-5).

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATL

Atl - @SD/ @NO / TB

Car- @GB/ TB/ DEN

NO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

 

[PatrickT]

I never would have thought the NFC South would fare so well this season. The biggest surprise is the Atlanta Falcons, but NO is only 1 game back.

Here are the PFT power rankings.

1. New York Giants (10-1).

2. New York Jets (8-3).

3. Tennessee Titans (10-1).

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-3).

5. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3).

6. Carolina Panthers (8-3).

7. Indianapolis Colts (7-4).

8. New England Patriots (7-4).

9. Atlanta Falcons (7-4).

18. New Orleans Saints (6-5).

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATL

Atl - @SD/ @NO / TB

Car- @GB/ TB/ DEN

NO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

And only one NFC east team in there. Not that this is definitive, but the case that the NFC south is the strongest division in football is a lot stronger than it was 3 weeks ago.I don't know who to root for in CAR/TB, guess it will depend on if one of them stumbles this week. I had thought CAR had the tougher matchup this week, but I'm not sure anymore. If I remember correctly, NO has always been a thorn in TB's side, and they looked every bit the team that people thought they'd be at the beginning of the season.

Could we get 3 NFC South teams in the playoffs? If the redskins falter, and we can win out, it could happen.

 

[simey]

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATLAtl - @SD/ @NO / TBCar- @GB/ TB/ DENNO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

Carolina also has the Giants to play @ the Meadowlands which will be hard to win, and they end the season against New Orleans @ New Orleans.

 

[PatrickT]

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATLAtl - @SD/ @NO / TBCar- @GB/ TB/ DENNO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

Carolina also has the Giants to play @ the Meadowlands which will be hard to win, and they end the season against New Orleans @ New Orleans.

Carolina easily has the toughest finishing schedule of the four, Atlanta might have the easiest, tho certainly not a cakewalk.

 

[simey]

Carolina easily has the toughest finishing schedule of the four, Atlanta might have the easiest, tho certainly not a cakewalk.

I think the Carolina has the toughest remaining schedule too, and while Atlanta's might be the easiest, you are right that it isn't a cakewalk. No games are really a cakewalk. I thought Atlanta would have beaten Denver, but they lost to them, and then Oakland beats Denver, and Atlanta shut Oakland out. As the saying goes, "On any given Sunday....".

 

[PatrickT]

Carolina easily has the toughest finishing schedule of the four, Atlanta might have the easiest, tho certainly not a cakewalk.

I think the Carolina has the toughest remaining schedule too, and while Atlanta's might be the easiest, you are right that it isn't a cakewalk. No games are really a cakewalk. I thought Atlanta would have beaten Denver, but they lost to them, and then Oakland beats Denver, and Atlanta shut Oakland out. As the saying goes, "On any given Sunday....".

We simply did not come to play against Denver. We expected to win, rather than expecting to earn a win. As I said at the time, you can only take that as a learning opportunity for the young players, which they seemed to do. Let's see if we maintain that intensity on the road.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side. Out of the 3 losses the Bucs have had, Den, Dal, NO, they have all been on the road. NO is coming to Tampa, and Bush is still questionable. To be honest, the Saints got about every call the first time we played them. The Reggie Bush TD should have been called back, but that's football.

 

[PosterNutBag]

I never would have thought the NFC South would fare so well this season. The biggest surprise is the Atlanta Falcons, but NO is only 1 game back.

Here are the PFT power rankings.

1. New York Giants (10-1).

2. New York Jets (8-3).

3. Tennessee Titans (10-1).

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-3).

5. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3).

6. Carolina Panthers (8-3).

7. Indianapolis Colts (7-4).

8. New England Patriots (7-4).

9. Atlanta Falcons (7-4).

18. New Orleans Saints (6-5).

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATL

Atl - @SD/ @NO / TB

Car- @GB/ TB/ DEN

NO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

And only one NFC east team in there. Not that this is definitive, but the case that the NFC south is the strongest division in football is a lot stronger than it was 3 weeks ago.I don't know who to root for in CAR/TB, guess it will depend on if one of them stumbles this week. I had thought CAR had the tougher matchup this week, but I'm not sure anymore. If I remember correctly, NO has always been a thorn in TB's side, and they looked every bit the team that people thought they'd be at the beginning of the season.

Could we get 3 NFC South teams in the playoffs? If the redskins falter, and we can win out, it could happen.

There is only one NFC East team in there b/c he skipped those ranked 10-17. Right now they have DAL at 11 and WSH at 12 and it would appear DAL is on the rise with Romo back. PHI is just a few spots ranked behind NO and on the decline for sure.I still think the NFC East is the better division compared to the NFC South since the best team in the entire league (NYG) is in the division and DAL certainly has the talent to be the next best team in the NFC at the very least. The NFC South is full of decent teams, but none of them is too intimidating IMO. Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

 

[simey]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

 

[PatrickT]

I never would have thought the NFC South would fare so well this season. The biggest surprise is the Atlanta Falcons, but NO is only 1 game back.

Here are the PFT power rankings.

1. New York Giants (10-1).

2. New York Jets (8-3).

3. Tennessee Titans (10-1).

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-3).

5. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3).

6. Carolina Panthers (8-3).

7. Indianapolis Colts (7-4).

8. New England Patriots (7-4).

9. Atlanta Falcons (7-4).

18. New Orleans Saints (6-5).

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATL

Atl - @SD/ @NO / TB

Car- @GB/ TB/ DEN

NO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

And only one NFC east team in there. Not that this is definitive, but the case that the NFC south is the strongest division in football is a lot stronger than it was 3 weeks ago.I don't know who to root for in CAR/TB, guess it will depend on if one of them stumbles this week. I had thought CAR had the tougher matchup this week, but I'm not sure anymore. If I remember correctly, NO has always been a thorn in TB's side, and they looked every bit the team that people thought they'd be at the beginning of the season.

Could we get 3 NFC South teams in the playoffs? If the redskins falter, and we can win out, it could happen.

There is only one NFC East team in there b/c he skipped those ranked 10-17. Right now they have DAL at 11 and WSH at 12 and it would appear DAL is on the rise with Romo back. PHI is just a few spots ranked behind NO and on the decline for sure.I still think the NFC East is the better division compared to the NFC South since the best team in the entire league (NYG) is in the division and DAL certainly has the talent to be the next best team in the NFC at the very least. The NFC South is full of decent teams, but none of them is too intimidating IMO. Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

It's a valid point, especially since we had the AFC west on our schedule. Still, I think you have the Giants as the clear leader, but after that, I don't think you can come out and say with any authority at all that the rest of the East is any better than the South, Dallas included. I certainly wouldn't call Dallas a clear favorite against any of the four as it stands right now. I'd sure as hell love another crack at Philly 'bout right now.

 

[Capella]

Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

What the hell other reason would there be?

 

[Gadabout]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

 

[PatrickT]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I would like that. A lotsus

 

[Gadabout]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I would like that. A lotsus

 

[PosterNutBag]

Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

What the hell other reason would there be?

Way to completely take that quote out of context. My point with that statement (combined with the rest of my posting) is that if you have seen the NFC South play some games (take 8-3 Carolina for example), you would be shocked that they are really 8-3 based on what you may have seen on the field (translation: these teams are not really as good as their records indicate). Like PatrickT mentioned, playing the AFC West this year is a kind draw (playing the NFC North doesn't hurt either).

 

[PosterNutBag]

I never would have thought the NFC South would fare so well this season. The biggest surprise is the Atlanta Falcons, but NO is only 1 game back.

Here are the PFT power rankings.

1. New York Giants (10-1).

2. New York Jets (8-3).

3. Tennessee Titans (10-1).

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-3).

5. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3).

6. Carolina Panthers (8-3).

7. Indianapolis Colts (7-4).

8. New England Patriots (7-4).

9. Atlanta Falcons (7-4).

18. New Orleans Saints (6-5).

These next few weeks are extremely important, as there are several critical divisional games.Tampa- NO/ @CAR/ @ATL

Atl - @SD/ @NO / TB

Car- @GB/ TB/ DEN

NO - @TB / Atl/ Chi

And only one NFC east team in there. Not that this is definitive, but the case that the NFC south is the strongest division in football is a lot stronger than it was 3 weeks ago.I don't know who to root for in CAR/TB, guess it will depend on if one of them stumbles this week. I had thought CAR had the tougher matchup this week, but I'm not sure anymore. If I remember correctly, NO has always been a thorn in TB's side, and they looked every bit the team that people thought they'd be at the beginning of the season.

Could we get 3 NFC South teams in the playoffs? If the redskins falter, and we can win out, it could happen.

There is only one NFC East team in there b/c he skipped those ranked 10-17. Right now they have DAL at 11 and WSH at 12 and it would appear DAL is on the rise with Romo back. PHI is just a few spots ranked behind NO and on the decline for sure.I still think the NFC East is the better division compared to the NFC South since the best team in the entire league (NYG) is in the division and DAL certainly has the talent to be the next best team in the NFC at the very least. The NFC South is full of decent teams, but none of them is too intimidating IMO. Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

It's a valid point, especially since we had the AFC west on our schedule. Still, I think you have the Giants as the clear leader, but after that, I don't think you can come out and say with any authority at all that the rest of the East is any better than the South, Dallas included. I certainly wouldn't call Dallas a clear favorite against any of the four as it stands right now. I'd sure as hell love another crack at Philly 'bout right now.

I agree that at this point you can't just anoint DAL as clearly better than all NFC South teams, but DAL's upside (if they get rolling again) is much larger than all the NFC South teams). The NFC South is definitely a good division, but I just don't think it should be rated higher than the NFC East this season.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

 

[Gadabout]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

I'm only worried about Old Man Galloway. Sure, he's still somewhat recovering from his broken hip and all, but the dood singlehandedly has kilt us in many games. Breesus can't be stopped right now. Y'all gonna have to score more than one offensive touchdown this time...

 

[Andy Herron]

Good thread, and heckuva division.

The point of whether or not it's better than the NFC East is moot really, though. The Wildcard battle and who can advance from there will tell the better story. It's going to be fun to see how this plays out.

In the South, Tampa Bay is the front-runner right now and I really don't see them relinquishing that. They have the best defense of the four, which becomes even more prominent as the season moves into December. Contenders move on, pretenders fall to the wayside. I think Carolina will prove to be a pretender in the coming weeks. New Orleans appears to be on the verge of hitting their stride and about to get Reggie Bush back. Contender. Atlanta has been a great story this season, but they are a young team led by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach. I would anticipate seeing them begin to falter in the coming weeks. Pretender.

Tampa Bay

New Orleans

Carolina

Atlanta

 

[Capella]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

I'm only worried about Old Man Galloway. Sure, he's still somewhat recovering from his broken hip and all, but the dood singlehandedly has kilt us in many games. Breesus can't be stopped right now. Y'all gonna have to score more than one offensive touchdown this time...

They play defense in the NFL too. Well, except for in New Orleans and a few other places. There's a reason the Saints are nothing more than an average team 3/4 of the way into the season.Brees is great, but the Bucs D has faced better offenses.

 

[Capella]

Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

What the hell other reason would there be?

Way to completely take that quote out of context. My point with that statement (combined with the rest of my posting) is that if you have seen the NFC South play some games (take 8-3 Carolina for example), you would be shocked that they are really 8-3 based on what you may have seen on the field (translation: these teams are not really as good as their records indicate). Like PatrickT mentioned, playing the AFC West this year is a kind draw (playing the NFC North doesn't hurt either).

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

 

[PatrickT]

Good thread, and heckuva division.The point of whether or not it's better than the NFC East is moot really, though. The Wildcard battle and who can advance from there will tell the better story. It's going to be fun to see how this plays out. In the South, Tampa Bay is the front-runner right now and I really don't see them relinquishing that. They have the best defense of the four, which becomes even more prominent as the season moves into December. Contenders move on, pretenders fall to the wayside. I think Carolina will prove to be a pretender in the coming weeks. New Orleans appears to be on the verge of hitting their stride and about to get Reggie Bush back. Contender. Atlanta has been a great story this season, but they are a young team led by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach. I would anticipate seeing them begin to falter in the coming weeks. Pretender.Tampa BayNew OrleansCarolinaAtlanta

Well, that makes one of you. Take your pre-requisite homer grain of salt, but Atlanta hasn't exactly been getting lucky. They've played really good fundamental football, and I can't see them now, all of a sudden, succumbing to the pressure. I just don't think NO has enough Defense to pull it off, and Car vs TB is going to be a big tell, IMO. If they take another stumble in Lambeau, they could start to fall out altogether. Either way, should be a fun ride, and I ought to be happy just to be relevant. But I'm not. I want A) a winning season and B) a playoff berth. They've set the bar that high. If we win 10 and just miss, I'll be ok. But let's face it, we're currently ahead of Dallas in the playoff standings and they have a FAR more difficult schedule. Washington's is just ahead of us, and they're schedule, while easier than Dallas, includes the Giants and Ravens. NFC south could send 3 teams.

 

[Andy Herron]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

 

[PatrickT]

Their records are good, though, which is the only reason this is even being discussed.

What the hell other reason would there be?

Way to completely take that quote out of context. My point with that statement (combined with the rest of my posting) is that if you have seen the NFC South play some games (take 8-3 Carolina for example), you would be shocked that they are really 8-3 based on what you may have seen on the field (translation: these teams are not really as good as their records indicate). Like PatrickT mentioned, playing the AFC West this year is a kind draw (playing the NFC North doesn't hurt either).

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I don't know if that's the right answer, but I don't know that I've got a better one. Their D is as good as always, but their offense is smoke and mirrors. I know my team is focused on SD, but, as a fan, I'm personally very much looking forward to the re-match.

 

[Andy Herron]

Good thread, and heckuva division.The point of whether or not it's better than the NFC East is moot really, though. The Wildcard battle and who can advance from there will tell the better story. It's going to be fun to see how this plays out. In the South, Tampa Bay is the front-runner right now and I really don't see them relinquishing that. They have the best defense of the four, which becomes even more prominent as the season moves into December. Contenders move on, pretenders fall to the wayside. I think Carolina will prove to be a pretender in the coming weeks. New Orleans appears to be on the verge of hitting their stride and about to get Reggie Bush back. Contender. Atlanta has been a great story this season, but they are a young team led by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach. I would anticipate seeing them begin to falter in the coming weeks. Pretender.Tampa BayNew OrleansCarolinaAtlanta

Well, that makes one of you. Take your pre-requisite homer grain of salt, but Atlanta hasn't exactly been getting lucky. They've played really good fundamental football, and I can't see them now, all of a sudden, succumbing to the pressure. I just don't think NO has enough Defense to pull it off, and Car vs TB is going to be a big tell, IMO. If they take another stumble in Lambeau, they could start to fall out altogether. Either way, should be a fun ride, and I ought to be happy just to be relevant. But I'm not. I want A) a winning season and B) a playoff berth. They've set the bar that high. If we win 10 and just miss, I'll be ok. But let's face it, we're currently ahead of Dallas in the playoff standings and they have a FAR more difficult schedule. Washington's is just ahead of us, and they're schedule, while easier than Dallas, includes the Giants and Ravens. NFC south could send 3 teams.

Hey, we're good. I have nothing against the Falcons at all and have been a big fan. I know you've read my posts in the Falcons thread from last offseason. I was on it (Ryan, Turner, Dunn, etc., before it ever happened). But somebody has to fall in this division, and I'm just trying to weigh the pluses and minuses.

 

[Gadabout]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

I'm only worried about Old Man Galloway. Sure, he's still somewhat recovering from his broken hip and all, but the dood singlehandedly has kilt us in many games. Breesus can't be stopped right now. Y'all gonna have to score more than one offensive touchdown this time...

They play defense in the NFL too. Well, except for in New Orleans and a few other places. There's a reason the Saints are nothing more than an average team 3/4 of the way into the season.Brees is great, but the Bucs D has faced better offenses.

Whenever you get tired of hanging out in Lalaland, there's a great season going on.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side. Out of the 3 losses the Bucs have had, Den, Dal, NO, they have all been on the road. NO is coming to Tampa, and Bush is still questionable. To be honest, the Saints got about every call the first time we played them. The Reggie Bush TD should have been called back, but that's football.

I wouldnt say that the Bucs should get the win. I think you guys are going to have a handful with the Saints. The Saints defense is the X factor, they have started to improve since the KC game if they keep it going against Tampa at home I think the Saints move back into the hunt.

 

[Capella]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

I'm only worried about Old Man Galloway. Sure, he's still somewhat recovering from his broken hip and all, but the dood singlehandedly has kilt us in many games. Breesus can't be stopped right now. Y'all gonna have to score more than one offensive touchdown this time...

They play defense in the NFL too. Well, except for in New Orleans and a few other places. There's a reason the Saints are nothing more than an average team 3/4 of the way into the season.Brees is great, but the Bucs D has faced better offenses.

Whenever you get tired of hanging out in Lalaland, there's a great season going on.

My team is in first-place, has a top-5 defense and is undefeated at home. Your team is barely above .500, last in the division and has an absolutely putrid defense, as well as being weaker offensively on the road and on grass. And you're predicting a big win.I'm in lalaland?

 

[Breesisdaman]

I think the Bucs should win this Sunday against NO, but like PatrickT said they have been a thorn in our side.

I think every NFC South division game has been won at home this year, but none have been won on the road yet.

There's a first for everything.Breesus got dat touchdown fever right now. Like, a really bad case of it.Look for the Saints to win this one. Possibly big.

I wouldn't expect Aquib Talib to make a rookie mistake like he did covering Henderson in the first game. Also, the Bucs D got dat touchdown fever right now as well.

I'm only worried about Old Man Galloway. Sure, he's still somewhat recovering from his broken hip and all, but the dood singlehandedly has kilt us in many games. Breesus can't be stopped right now. Y'all gonna have to score more than one offensive touchdown this time...

They play defense in the NFL too. Well, except for in New Orleans and a few other places. There's a reason the Saints are nothing more than an average team 3/4 of the way into the season.Brees is great, but the Bucs D has faced better offenses.

Whenever you get tired of hanging out in Lalaland, there's a great season going on.

My team is in first-place, has a top-5 defense and is undefeated at home. Your team is barely above .500, last in the division and has an absolutely putrid defense, as well as being weaker offensively on the road and on grass. And you're predicting a big win.I'm in lalaland?

Saints have lost some games they shouldn't and have played many games with starters out. I wouldnt let the record fool you into thinking its going to be a cakewalk. If anyone can dismantle the Bucs secondary its Drew Brees. I dont blame you for being confident in your team but I wouldnt rest too easy because there is really not much difference in the Bucs and the Saints. It could go either way IMO.

 

[Capella]

Me rebutting a guy saying the Saints will win big isn't being too confident or cocky. The Bucs are a little flawed in the red zone, but are better fundamentally on defense and special teams than the Saints. They should win the game.

People get up on the Saints because they have a flashy offense and that draws in the rubes, but they don't have the defense to beat out Tampa, Carolina and Atlanta.

 

[Capella]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

 

[Gadabout]

Me rebutting a guy saying the Saints will win big isn't being too confident or cocky. The Bucs are a little flawed in the red zone, but are better fundamentally on defense and special teams than the Saints. They should win the game.

People get up on the Saints because they have a flashy offense and that draws in the rubes, but they don't have the defense to beat out Tampa, Carolina and Atlanta.

Forgot about week one already, buddy? Y'know, the same week one that Tampa only scored one offensive touchdown in? You remember......'member? And the Bucs have seen better offenses than the Saints this year? Newsflash: That offense, the one that's better than the Saints', doesn't exist.

Show me a better offense and I'll show everybody a liar.

 

[Andy Herron]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

Don't get your hopes too high.

 

[Capella]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

Don't get your hopes too high.

Thanks, but I really don't need some blogger monkey telling me what to hope for.

 

[Andy Herron]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

Don't get your hopes too high.

Thanks, but I really don't need some blogger monkey telling me what to hope for.

LOL! Ya, I'm swingin' from the vines here.Good luck!!!

 

[PatrickT]

Good thread, and heckuva division.The point of whether or not it's better than the NFC East is moot really, though. The Wildcard battle and who can advance from there will tell the better story. It's going to be fun to see how this plays out. In the South, Tampa Bay is the front-runner right now and I really don't see them relinquishing that. They have the best defense of the four, which becomes even more prominent as the season moves into December. Contenders move on, pretenders fall to the wayside. I think Carolina will prove to be a pretender in the coming weeks. New Orleans appears to be on the verge of hitting their stride and about to get Reggie Bush back. Contender. Atlanta has been a great story this season, but they are a young team led by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach. I would anticipate seeing them begin to falter in the coming weeks. Pretender.Tampa BayNew OrleansCarolinaAtlanta

Well, that makes one of you. Take your pre-requisite homer grain of salt, but Atlanta hasn't exactly been getting lucky. They've played really good fundamental football, and I can't see them now, all of a sudden, succumbing to the pressure. I just don't think NO has enough Defense to pull it off, and Car vs TB is going to be a big tell, IMO. If they take another stumble in Lambeau, they could start to fall out altogether. Either way, should be a fun ride, and I ought to be happy just to be relevant. But I'm not. I want A) a winning season and B) a playoff berth. They've set the bar that high. If we win 10 and just miss, I'll be ok. But let's face it, we're currently ahead of Dallas in the playoff standings and they have a FAR more difficult schedule. Washington's is just ahead of us, and they're schedule, while easier than Dallas, includes the Giants and Ravens. NFC south could send 3 teams.

Hey, we're good. I have nothing against the Falcons at all and have been a big fan. I know you've read my posts in the Falcons thread from last offseason. I was on it (Ryan, Turner, Dunn, etc., before it ever happened). But somebody has to fall in this division, and I'm just trying to weigh the pluses and minuses.

Didn't take it that way, no worries here, I just disagree with your assessment.

 

[omally]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

The Seahawks had a lot of missing parts when they played the Rams, and they whipped the Rams.Simply stating

 

[Capella]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

Don't get your hopes too high.

Thanks, but I really don't need some blogger monkey telling me what to hope for.

LOL! Ya, I'm swingin' from the vines here.Good luck!!!

you too!

 

[Andy Herron]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

The Seahawks had a lot of missing parts when they played the Rams, and they whipped the Rams.Simply stating

Hmm. Seem to be stirring up a fair share of Cowboy haters here.Nice!

I'm all grins.

 

[omally]

And the Bucs have seen better offenses than the Saints this year? Newsflash: That offense, the one that's better than the Saints', doesn't exist.

Where was this great Saints offense when they played Carolina and Atlanta?

 

[Andy Herron]

Good thread, and heckuva division.The point of whether or not it's better than the NFC East is moot really, though. The Wildcard battle and who can advance from there will tell the better story. It's going to be fun to see how this plays out. In the South, Tampa Bay is the front-runner right now and I really don't see them relinquishing that. They have the best defense of the four, which becomes even more prominent as the season moves into December. Contenders move on, pretenders fall to the wayside. I think Carolina will prove to be a pretender in the coming weeks. New Orleans appears to be on the verge of hitting their stride and about to get Reggie Bush back. Contender. Atlanta has been a great story this season, but they are a young team led by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach. I would anticipate seeing them begin to falter in the coming weeks. Pretender.Tampa BayNew OrleansCarolinaAtlanta

Well, that makes one of you. Take your pre-requisite homer grain of salt, but Atlanta hasn't exactly been getting lucky. They've played really good fundamental football, and I can't see them now, all of a sudden, succumbing to the pressure. I just don't think NO has enough Defense to pull it off, and Car vs TB is going to be a big tell, IMO. If they take another stumble in Lambeau, they could start to fall out altogether. Either way, should be a fun ride, and I ought to be happy just to be relevant. But I'm not. I want A) a winning season and B) a playoff berth. They've set the bar that high. If we win 10 and just miss, I'll be ok. But let's face it, we're currently ahead of Dallas in the playoff standings and they have a FAR more difficult schedule. Washington's is just ahead of us, and they're schedule, while easier than Dallas, includes the Giants and Ravens. NFC south could send 3 teams.

Hey, we're good. I have nothing against the Falcons at all and have been a big fan. I know you've read my posts in the Falcons thread from last offseason. I was on it (Ryan, Turner, Dunn, etc., before it ever happened). But somebody has to fall in this division, and I'm just trying to weigh the pluses and minuses.

Didn't take it that way, no worries here, I just disagree with your assessment.

Oh, I may still root for them. Afterall, I rode Ryan as my backup while Romo was out and he served me nicely. I just don't see it.

 

[omally]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

The Seahawks had a lot of missing parts when they played the Rams, and they whipped the Rams.Simply stating

Hmm. Seem to be stirring up a fair share of Cowboy haters here.Nice!

I'm all grins.

I don't see where anyone said or implied they hated the Cowboys.

 

[Capella]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

The Seahawks had a lot of missing parts when they played the Rams, and they whipped the Rams.Simply stating

Hmm. Seem to be stirring up a fair share of Cowboy haters here.Nice!

I'm all grins.

I don't see where anyone said or implied they hated the Cowboys.

I don't hate the Cowboys at all. I don't care about them. They haven't won a playoff game since I was in high school. May as well hate the Cardinals.

 

[simmonjm]

While the NFC South has been a surprise I dont think they are in the same class as the NFC East. Dallas without Romo beat Tampa, Redskins beat the Saints, and the Eagles beat the Falcons. NFC East 3 NFC South 0

 

[meanjoegreen]

While the NFC South has been a surprise I dont think they are in the same class as the NFC East. Dallas without Romo beat Tampa, Redskins beat the Saints, and the Eagles beat the Falcons. NFC East 3 NFC South 0

I don't think a team beating another necessarily means they are the better team. Cleveland beat the Giants. Do you think that Cleveland is a better team than the Giants?

 

[Zigg]

While the NFC South has been a surprise I dont think they are in the same class as the NFC East. Dallas without Romo beat Tampa, Redskins beat the Saints, and the Eagles beat the Falcons. NFC East 3 NFC South 0

@ Dallas, @ Washington and @ Philly.

 

[Andy Herron]

I've seen the NFC South play a lot of games this season. There is one really good team, two pretty good teams and an average one. Bucs are good, probably better than any NFC team other than New York.

I wouldn't go that far. The Cowboys beat them with Brad Johnson at QB.

Cowboys lost to the Rams, if you want to play that game.

With alot of missing parts from the Cowboys.Simply stating.

The Seahawks had a lot of missing parts when they played the Rams, and they whipped the Rams.Simply stating

Hmm. Seem to be stirring up a fair share of Cowboy haters here.Nice!

I'm all grins.

I don't see where anyone said or implied they hated the Cowboys.

I don't hate the Cowboys at all. I don't care about them. They haven't won a playoff game since I was in high school. May as well hate the Cardinals.

Fair enough.

 

[Zigg]

And the Bucs have seen better offenses than the Saints this year? Newsflash: That offense, the one that's better than the Saints', doesn't exist.

Where was this great Saints offense when they played Carolina and Atlanta?

They refused to run the ball against Ds that were daring them to. Payton won't run against a 2 man box. His stubbornness is the biggest weakness the Saints O has.

 

[simmonjm]

While the NFC South has been a surprise I dont think they are in the same class as the NFC East. Dallas without Romo beat Tampa, Redskins beat the Saints, and the Eagles beat the Falcons. NFC East 3 NFC South 0

I don't think a team beating another necessarily means they are the better team. Cleveland beat the Giants. Do you think that Cleveland is a better team than the Giants?

Of course I dont think the Giants are a lesser team, they simply played a bad game. One game is a fluke three games is a trend. If the NFC South was so superior or even equal you would have to figure that they could at least win one road game.

 

[Bunky]

panther season ticket folks got their playoff ticket invoices today. we are in.