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NFL 2014: Coaches on the Hot Seat (1 Viewer)

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Who thought Week 3 of the NFL season wouldn't be too early for this thread.

Here is my list of coaches on the hot seat already:

Lovie Smith in Tampa Bay

I'll add Tom Coughlin to the list if the Giants can't get a win against the Texans at home this weekend.

 
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.

 
The Giants leave a coach with one year remaining. Always have. Coughlin is theoretically in his last season of his contract. Some thought their OC will be the next HC last offseason.

They got rid of most of his friends and fave players.

This will happen, writing's on the wall

 
Whisenhunt, already

Think up a list of what's an indication of a poorly coached team and you'll list Titans 2014 qualities.

He said often, often, often, how he wanted to win now and the team should win now.

His evaluation of Locker has been dead wrong, just like his evaluation of their CBs

Two DEs as OLBs has flopped

Penalties are very high

Their play has been bad, but he keeps getting outcoached too. Their come from behind O should not be run and throw to the TE

 
If the panthers don't improve, Rivera will find his seat getting warm.

Team did well enough last year that he's likely safe, but they have to improve now.

Would not have expected to like the lions hiring caldwell over wiz.

 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.

 
Rex has a bit more time considering, as mentioned, he turned them into an 8-8 team last year despite Geno's struggles.

That said, last year is going to become more of a distant memory if the losses pile on and Geno continuing to struggle. And with the Chargers, Broncos and Patriots up next, things could get even uglier. Geno yelling an obscenity at a fan yesterday isn't going to help matters.

 
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Allen reported fired.... then unreported fired. So, not fired, but might be fired.

Who in the heck would take over there?
apparently Tony Sporano is there. Doesn't matter though. This regime has been doomed for a while and the nail in the coffin should have came with the Saffold debacle. Really displayed the dysfunction level of this organization. This team is both old and terrible, way to go McKenzie.Philbin and Marrone are the other two obvious ones. If I had to bet on a fourth right now it'd be Rex, but he will find a way to x and o to 8-8 and get another season, again.

 
If the panthers don't improve, Rivera will find his seat getting warm.

Team did well enough last year that he's likely safe, but they have to improve now.
Rivera did well enough to win Coach of the Year last year. I don't think he will be replaced next season if the Panthers don't make the playoffs. Their offense has a lot of injuries right now, and that includes Cam. He isn't healthy. I've been most disappointed with how the D has played over the last two games.

 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.

 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
He's been awful. Totally bypassed anything in terms of corners. What's the point of sitting on 21 mill in cap space?

 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
He's been awful. Totally bypassed anything in terms of corners. What's the point of sitting on 21 mill in cap space?
some expiring contracts coming up, already implemented a lot of change this past offseason, implementing too much at once usually does not work. What corner would have you paid?
 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
He's been awful. Totally bypassed anything in terms of corners. What's the point of sitting on 21 mill in cap space?
some expiring contracts coming up, already implemented a lot of change this past offseason, implementing too much at once usually does not work. What corner would have you paid?
I know that I would not have done nothing and went in with Walls or Allen.

Revis, DRC, Vontae Davis were out there no? Flowers? Graham from the Ravens? Bring in SOMEONE. The Pats bring in Revis and Browner and the Jets go with Milliner and Wilson?

ETA: Oh right, they brought in Patterson. That ended well.

 
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If the panthers don't improve, Rivera will find his seat getting warm.

Team did well enough last year that he's likely safe, but they have to improve now.
Rivera did well enough to win Coach of the Year last year. I don't think he will be replaced next season if the Panthers don't make the playoffs. Their offense has a lot of injuries right now, and that includes Cam. He isn't healthy. I've been most disappointed with how the D has played over the last two games.
Plus, they have the "We don't have Greg Hardy" excuse. I'm not a big believer in Rivera as a head coach, but I don't see him going anywhere, unless they totally collapse and it looks like he totally loses the team (which I don't see happening).

 
No mention yet of Doug Marrone? Both he and Whaley are damn near gone if they dont right the ship in Buffalo sooner than later.

 
MCguidance said:
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
He's been awful. Totally bypassed anything in terms of corners. What's the point of sitting on 21 mill in cap space?
some expiring contracts coming up, already implemented a lot of change this past offseason, implementing too much at once usually does not work. What corner would have you paid?
I know that I would not have done nothing and went in with Walls or Allen.Revis, DRC, Vontae Davis were out there no? Flowers? Graham from the Ravens? Bring in SOMEONE. The Pats bring in Revis and Browner and the Jets go with Milliner and Wilson?

ETA: Oh right, they brought in Patterson. That ended well.
Revis gave the Jets the finger and Davis isn't any good. Not positive on DRC and Flowers but I don't think either had any interest in going there.
 
Rex Ryan and John Idzik. This team is not only undermanned but not well coached. Time to clean house and start over.
No way. Rex is the man after turning them into an 8-8 team last year. Please for the love of God keep both of them for a few more years.
I could be persuaded to keep Rex, but not Idzik. The guy has no excuses for how terribly he's (under)manned this team.
I don't like some things he has done, but I believe he was severely cash strapped year one because of Tanny and his army of short sighted moves.
He's been awful. Totally bypassed anything in terms of corners. What's the point of sitting on 21 mill in cap space?
some expiring contracts coming up, already implemented a lot of change this past offseason, implementing too much at once usually does not work. What corner would have you paid?
I know that I would not have done nothing and went in with Walls or Allen.Revis, DRC, Vontae Davis were out there no? Flowers? Graham from the Ravens? Bring in SOMEONE. The Pats bring in Revis and Browner and the Jets go with Milliner and Wilson?

ETA: Oh right, they brought in Patterson. That ended well.
Revis gave the Jets the finger and Davis isn't any good. Not positive on DRC and Flowers but I don't think either had any interest in going there.
Does it matter the reasons? Idzik did not bring in anyone but Patterson and he went AWOL, literally.

 
Whisenhunt, already

Think up a list of what's an indication of a poorly coached team and you'll list Titans 2014 qualities.

He said often, often, often, how he wanted to win now and the team should win now.

His evaluation of Locker has been dead wrong, just like his evaluation of their CBs

Two DEs as OLBs has flopped

Penalties are very high

Their play has been bad, but he keeps getting outcoached too. Their come from behind O should not be run and throw to the TE
So, 4 games in, with guys he didn't necessarily have drafted or chose to bring in and you want a bad team turned around already?

 
Whisenhunt, already

Think up a list of what's an indication of a poorly coached team and you'll list Titans 2014 qualities.

He said often, often, often, how he wanted to win now and the team should win now.

His evaluation of Locker has been dead wrong, just like his evaluation of their CBs

Two DEs as OLBs has flopped

Penalties are very high

Their play has been bad, but he keeps getting outcoached too. Their come from behind O should not be run and throw to the TE
So, 4 games in, with guys he didn't necessarily have drafted or chose to bring in and you want a bad team turned around already?
People see the early success of coaches like Arians and Harbaugh, and perhaps it causes some impatience. But then again, even Pete Carroll needed a few years to rebuild the program by bringing in his type of players and such.

I think coaches need at least three years before you really know how good they are. A lot of coaches take over terrible teams and do bad through little fault of their own, or take over good teams and do well through little skill of their own.

 
I hope Mike Tomlin. Bring Cowher back.
As I Steelers fan I kind of agree and disagree with this. I would love to have Cowher back but Tomlin isn't going anywhere because of the organization. They love him, he's proven himself (although many years ago now), and they don't like making changes like this as a drastic action. I highly doubt he goes anywhere.

And Cowher is done coaching, just accept that.

 
I hope Mike Tomlin. Bring Cowher back.
As I Steelers fan I kind of agree and disagree with this. I would love to have Cowher back but Tomlin isn't going anywhere because of the organization. They love him, he's proven himself (although many years ago now), and they don't like making changes like this as a drastic action. I highly doubt he goes anywhere.

And Cowher is done coaching, just accept that.
I refuse to accept it! Cowher interviewed for coaching positions a few years ago but turned down a few offers. I hope he just waits for the right opportunity.

As for Tomlin, I fear you're right with regard to how the Steelers feel. But imo, he only proved himself by steering Cowher's ship for a few years. He's now captain of his own (unimpressive) ship now, a staple of which is 8-8 seasons peppered with late game collapses versus bad teams.

 
Rotoworld:

Raiders fired coach Dennis Allen.

This comes from FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, so we know it's legit this time after some Associated Press clown reported on Twitter late Sunday night that Allen was out, only to delete his tweet and say he didn't know anything about Allen's status. Allen isn't the main problem in Oakland, but he's the first one to take the fall. Others should be coming, and hopefully for the Raiders fans' sake it'll be GM Reggie McKenzie next. McKenzie went out and signed a plethora of over-the-hill washed-up veterans, and basically said, "Here ya go, Dennis. Good luck." Allen should take his fair share of blame, though. He's a defensive mind, and the Oakland defense flat-out stinks. Allen's tenure ends with an 8-28 career record.

Related: Raiders

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter
Sep 29 - 11:34 PM
 
If the panthers don't improve, Rivera will find his seat getting warm.

Team did well enough last year that he's likely safe, but they have to improve now.
Rivera did well enough to win Coach of the Year last year. I don't think he will be replaced next season if the Panthers don't make the playoffs. Their offense has a lot of injuries right now, and that includes Cam. He isn't healthy. I've been most disappointed with how the D has played over the last two games.
Plus, they have the "We don't have Greg Hardy" excuse. I'm not a big believer in Rivera as a head coach, but I don't see him going anywhere, unless they totally collapse and it looks like he totally loses the team (which I don't see happening).
I'm not saying he should get fired, just that there will be more pressure in the future.

 
Whisenhunt saying he may have overestimated how good this team is (after sooo many times saying they'd win now) horrible. I would not be surprised to hear the owner bent his ear seconds after hearing that.

that is your dog you kicked that was down!

 
Five takeaways from John Idzik's press conferenceExcerpt:

Idzik will not commit to Rex Ryan as his head coach beyond this season despite delivering what seemed to be some genuine, heartfelt compliments. "I got to know Rex very, very well these last 20 months or so, and the last time I checked, all the traits that make Rex Ryan our leader, our head coach, are still intact. He's an excellent football mind ... I support Rex, I continue to support Rex and our coaching staff." This is where he went wrong, of course. After saying that, Idzik was quickly asked about Ryan's future with the Jets and whether that support will manifest itself in another year on the sideline, or at least the remainder of this season. Idzik's answer? "We won't judge job status in the season. We're purely focused on the Kansas City Chiefs. If this league teaches you anything, it's that if you look too far into the future, the present will bite you."
 

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