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As a 40yo male, I both love Brady for showing everyone you can still rock at 40 and hate him for it. (Not really hate but you get the point)
I'd absolutely vote for Wilson if the Seahawks had made the playoffs. He still should be in contention but won't be.
I'm already on record as believing Wentz would/should have won it if not for the horrible inj and i'd also b fine with Gurley getting it in what is obviously a relatively wide open year with arguably a half dozen or more candidates. However, "repeatedly" and a "lot" are relative terms; yes twice NE played without Brady and won 11 games (dont get me started on the 08 cake schedule, or the 18 wins the year prior) one year and 3 games won without him last year. The guy who won 11 games also won 10 with KC and the guy who won 2 last year just went 5-0 in San Francisco.
In my own personal record book, the Pats did not beat the Steelers this year (yet).
Wilson was amazing for much of the year (he helped me win some fpc money!), the o-line absolutely blows and the D disintegrated. If they don't get blown out at home vs the rams late and had 2 more wins to get into the playoffs he might well have won it.
The defense finished 5th in the NFL in scoring defense.I'm already on record as believing Wentz would/should have won it if not for the horrible inj and i'd also b fine with Gurley getting it in what is obviously a relatively wide open year with arguably a half dozen or more candidates. However, "repeatedly" and a "lot" are relative terms; yes twice NE played without Brady and won 11 games (dont get me started on the 08 cake schedule, or the 18 wins the year prior) one year and 3 games won without him last year. The guy who won 11 games also won 10 with KC and the guy who won 2 last year just went 5-0 in San Francisco.
I do agree with Anarchy and others who believe that right or wrong the mvp award usually goes to a player on one of the top 2 teams (ie best record). NE started the year 2-2 (scoring 57 points in the 2 losses) and the defense finished 29th in yards allowed (yikes!) yet somehow they went 11-1 down the stretch to finish 13-3. I think that and the big late season win on the road at Pit is the logic behind the sentiment for Brady getting it.
I would be happy for Brady but honestly don't care all that much. Ive seen so many other years where Manning or Ryan etc got it but Brady ended up with the ring. Im a bit superstitious and would almost prefer he not get mvp since the 2 times he won it he didn't get the ring to go with it. So what im saying is yeah, my vote goes to Gurley
And? You say that like they were some huge liability Brady had to overcome, when in reality, from week 5 on, they were a major asset. During their best stretch of the season, the 8-game winning streak, they allowed 12 points a game, which is outstanding by just about measure.
This.
I think Harrison Smith should be Defensive Player Of The Year. Of course, somehow he didn't make the Pro Bowl, so I'm not counting on it.
What people? The voters? This award isn't, and has never been awarded based on the literal meaning of "most valuable player"
I think it means different things to different people so you are almost always going to have arguments.
I'm referring to the people who make the 'literal' argument and always pipe up and say "its about who is most valuable to their team, people!!!"
My logic was they had Jimmy G who has shown to be more then capable. IF Brady had gone down, they would not have traded him, and they would likely be in the same place with him at QB. That was my point.
Don't know that i claimed the D was a huge liability but yes imho they were at times a liability. I agree that points given up is the ultimate arbiter for a defense but poor run & pass def leads to disadvantages in top etc and does make it harder for an offense don't you agree?
Those were my top 3 and I thought it would be a little closer, had Wentz not gotten hurt I think it would have easily been his to lose. I would prefer Wentz to have not gotten hurt and be playing tomorrow just like I want NE at their best. Regular season MVP rarely seems to win the one that matters most so in a way I would prefer he not have won since im fine with many if not most of the Brady non reg season MVP results.
Nice to see Carson get a couple votes still. He had a great season but with his injury and foles succeeding, I was curious to see if anyone would still vote for Wentz. Could almost have voted for Goff instead even though Wentz deserves the mention.
Brady didn't accept the award in person so he prepared an acceptance speech and video in case he won. Because he had to play quarterback in the Superbowl the next day. That's what they always do. It's what they do for the Oscars, the Emmys, the grammys, and the avn awards I've heard. But it's Brady so people think it was arrogant and Goodell is considering docking the team a first round pick.
Let's just call it what is is. The Tom Brady life-time achievement award
If Wentz had not gotten hurt, he would be my pick. If he is out then it's Gurley. This is not even in the top 5 of Brady's career years. The Patriots had little challenge in their division, they had very few "Brady win's the game moments",. I just see this as the media giving Brady a Pat on the head and saying your so amazing.
To be clear I love Brady he is the GOAT. But was he the greatest this year.....I just don't see it.
you have a serious obsession with Brady. The Afc East had 2 playoff teams this year, and just because Brady has had 5 better seasons doesn't mean this wasn't an MVP caliber season. It just means no one else really had an all time great season.
Nah. QB's, in today's NFL, are far more valuable than RB's, so for a RB to win it, he almost has to have an historic season. Gurley's season was great, but not historic. Wentz would have won it had he not gotten hurt, but he did, so it went to the next best QB, which was Tom Brady. A no-brainer, really.
The media gets a woddie and the sound of his name, what can I say. He was not the MVP. He was the SYGOAT...solid year, greatest of all time. I guess that gives you an award.
One day Brady will move on and all your dreams will come true.
"Solid year"The media gets a woddie and the sound of his name, what can I say. He was not the MVP. He was the SYGOAT...solid year, greatest of all time. I guess that gives you an award.
Yes, it was statically average for the position, and for him as a QB. There were:KarmaPolice said:"Solid year"
I agree that Foles' play takes a little of the shine off of Wentz, but he was still the overwhelming favorite before he got hurt and likely would have been the MVP.
Brady threw a horrendous pass right in the hands of Steelers DB Sean Davis late in the 4th quarter and was lucky it was dropped. Otherwise Brady would have been the goat in that game.
I am always curious on the when the games occurred argument. Doesn't every game count the same? In Brady's case, he lost a one possession game in MIA (NE's only loss in the last 12 regular season games). Even in December, they still won 3 games by 20 points but had almost 200 rushing yards in all of those games. Isn't the role of the QB to move the offense, score points, and win? Should it hurt a QB's MVP chances if the team got three rushing TD's instead of 3 passing TD's?
