crnerblitz
Footballguy
Would Detroit fans have liked to seen more reps? Sure, but 28 wont hurt his stock. Unlike doing 40 reps which is certain help someones stock.
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NFL Network's Combine Coverage (1 Viewer)
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prymetyme25
Footballguy
Quinn not working out at the Combine. only doing interviews and wonderlic test.
Is he making a mistake?
I personally think so.
Is he making a mistake?
I personally think so.
massraider
Footballguy
If he has a good Pro Day, no-showing the combine doen't matter. NFL teams expect the top guys to do that at this point.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Most GMs know to draft football players before workout kings.- Tony Mandrich
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I totally agree.
coolnerd
Footballguy
IMo, drills only significantly help or hurt when someone does very poorly or extremely well. Also, if a player comes from a smaller school or did not play much showing that he has the core athletic skills as other prospects becomes more important than the guys from large programs who have played in a lot of games.
coolnerd
Footballguy
Yeah, I caught that. Even when he was positive speaking about athleticism, that type they or those guys commentary leads down a bad path.wow...Vermeil just stereotyped Samoans' work ethic as "sometimes needs to be worked on"
crnerblitz
Footballguy
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Just moved into the 2nd round of Dynasty Rookie Drafts.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
I like the way this group works together.
Vermiel, Mayock, Eisen, and Dukes.
Vermiel, Mayock, Eisen, and Dukes.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
First pick in the second round in my rookie draft, lemme look and see who has that one....o yes, its meI'm hoping saints take him in the second
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prymetyme25
Footballguy
Hey LOD do you know how many reps he did?
prymetyme25
Footballguy
That may be alittle high with so many good wr left. You should probably try to get the 2.03- 2.06 I think he should be there in 12 team rookie draft.He wont make it out of the first. Bears shouldn't let him get past them.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.
Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39 :Xprymetyme25
Footballguy
Man we need a live combine chat room.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Sopcast/TVU info from anyone? Anyone able to get coverage via these programs? Please share. TIA.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Pulling plays and being able to get to the 2nd level. Screens and things like that.Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
12 team 22 man roster, must have 2 players of each position IDP leagueSo I'm only gonna be keeping 3 or 4 guys max so it really doesnt matter since I know I'm keeping 1.1 and 1.2 off top and to keep Olsen I will most likely have to drop Jeramy Stevans
Haven't heard yet.
And "good feet" or "active feet" is what they're looking for in some of these drills. Some guys don't move their feet and are just big and that flat out doesn't cut it in the NFLPulling plays and being able to get to the 2nd level. Screens and things like that.Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39 :X
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Daniel Coates? ANy relation to Ben Coates?
ThePittbully
Footballguy
Thats pretty decent right? I havent seen the kid play much, I hear he's one of the few this year who can stretch the defense AND is an effective blocker
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Not Bad. Especially with a 4.45 40 very nice. I wasn't looking to draft a TE this year but He's opened my eyes now.
Yeah. He had nothing to work with as far as offense this past year in Miami so he will sneak past your weaker FFL drafters.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Okay after the Gauntlet he is definitely on my draft list.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
The Guantlet?
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Its the catching drill that they do at the combine. He looked very fluid catching the ball and running the line.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I've never seen a LT have to move 40 yards to block a Defensive End. Have you?Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39 :X
R.White
Footballguy
A couple things come into play here with Thomas combine numbers. Not included in this article is the fact he was on the banquet tour (touring to accept Outland, First-team All-American, and other awards) up until recently, and didn't have equal time to train. He is in the middle of wedding plans, and had to search for and hire an agent .The other is he has spent what time he's had on actual NFL line technique rather than trying to shave a tenth off his 40 time etc. To answer your question, This Lions fan would love to see him protect Kitna on Sundays.
From Tom Kowalski at MLive today LINK...
He believes the games are more important than the draft. While many players are spending their off-season by training for the combine drills so they can improve their results and get drafted higher, Thomas is working on getting better as a tackle.
"A lot of my off-season training is focusing on getting myself ready for the NFL season," he said. "I'm not as worried about getting a tenth (of a second) better in this drill or that drill because that's not going to help me next season.
"One of the things I've noticed about the guys who played at Wisconsin and played at other schools is, as they trained in the off-season, they'd go down to Houston or Phoenix to train and they lose focus about what they're really doing in the off-season.
"I think when you do combine training, you're training to improve your speed in the 40 or trying to improve your bench (press) reps, you're trying to do all the specific drills that you have to do (at the combine). For an offensive lineman, a lot of those drills aren't very applicable; it doesn't matter whether an offensive lineman can run the 40 fast - as long as he's quick - because you're never going to see him run 30 or 40 yards ... unless he's running down (an interception) going the other way."
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I've never seen a LT have to move 40 yards to block a Defensive End. Have you?Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39 :X
An offensive lineman that can get downfield and make blocks is like gold in the NFL. Lateral quickness is more important obviously, but a guy with good technique like Thomas that is that fast is very impressive. It means that you can ask him to pull, you can ask him to trap, you expect him to be able to make secondary blocks on the LBers and you can count on him to protect the QB against guys like Freeney and Peppers.i didn't know boldin was that slowlet me give you another one then well the same one actually.Who would you rather have Bryant Jonhson or Anquan Boldin? Consequently both went to the same team but bryant ran a 4.45 and boldin ran a 4.78. lol sometimes we (myself included) let a 40 time make us forget about production. Sometimes we get so caught up at looking at that steak down the road when that sandwich in your bag would fill you up just the same. lol I dont know where I come up with these things.
there were reports leading up to his personal workout that he was beginning to regain his pre-knee injury 4.4 speed... its a few years go & i don't have cite, but i definitely recall articles that he was faster than some of his times (in terms of PLAYING, functional speed)...that said, boldin is a good example (though i'm not sure he is better than carter they illustrate similar point), that speed can be an overrated attribute...than again, for every rice, carter & boldin, there are probably hundreds of failures that were just slow & bad... i guess the lesson to be learned, if they aren't fast by conventional scouting metrics for their position, they better have some compensating factors...when trying to set in context or interpret conflicting scouting data, it is always good to take into account a players body of work... boldin had stellar resume, & i think at one time (maybe still?) had FL state record for combined yardage as a star prep running QB...
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
OT Ryan Kalil is putting up some impressive numbers. He might be a guy to keep an eye on. He had the 4th best 40 time and did the 3rd most reps (34). He also looked pretty good in the "mirror" drill and it was either the 3 cone or shuttle drill that I saw him in and was impressed.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
exactly and from the film that i've watched of J. Thomas he does this alot thats why he is so impressive not a mauler but technically sound and that goes a long way and then you add that he has a high amount of athletism and all that = top 3-5 pick.I've never seen a LT have to move 40 yards to block a Defensive End. Have you?Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39 :X
An offensive lineman that can get downfield and make blocks is like gold in the NFL. Lateral quickness is more important obviously, but a guy with good technique like Thomas that is that fast is very impressive. It means that you can ask him to pull, you can ask him to trap, you expect him to be able to make secondary blocks on the LBers and you can count on him to protect the QB against guys like Freeney and Peppers.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
when i watch boldin in college nothing in what i saw said 4.78 so I was shocked didn't know about the injury though but that is interesting.i didn't know boldin was that slowlet me give you another one then well the same one actually.Who would you rather have Bryant Jonhson or Anquan Boldin? Consequently both went to the same team but bryant ran a 4.45 and boldin ran a 4.78. lol sometimes we (myself included) let a 40 time make us forget about production. Sometimes we get so caught up at looking at that steak down the road when that sandwich in your bag would fill you up just the same. lol I dont know where I come up with these things.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Why dont they ask guys that they invite to the combine if they are gonna work out because if not they need to invite other guys who need the exposure. this is really starting to get to me now. I'm sure there were guys who were left off of that list who would be glad to come an work for the coaches. Only 1 guy there from DIII as lucky as he is I'm sure there are at least 5 more guys who have something to offer to the NFL.
oh well that was my Rant i'm done.
oh well that was my Rant i'm done.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Honestly, the 4.93 doesn't mean that much to me, but GD makes a fine point here. Most LT's won't be downfield blocking, that's why blocking WRs are a bonus, but if he can move that quick, it's great. lateral quickness and technique are what I care about, the 4.93 is gravy.exactly and from the film that i've watched of J. Thomas he does this alot thats why he is so impressive not a mauler but technically sound and that goes a long way and then you add that he has a high amount of athletism and all that = top 3-5 pick.I've never seen a LT have to move 40 yards to block a Defensive End. Have you?Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.
-OZ-
Footballguy
That's why NFL teams invite small time players to their camps.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
No, I want an agile bull going up against Dwight Freeney.Seriously? You want a slow LT going up against Dwight Freeney?Um, what in the blue hell does 40 have to do with OL's?, TIA.PFT is reporting that he ran a 4.93 40.Now THAT'S impressive.Levi Jones reportedly ran a 5.39
