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NFL Overtime Rules And Allowing For a Tie (5 Viewers)

NFL Overtime Rules Allow For A Tie. What's Your Take?

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If the goal of games is to determine who is better and who is worse and that's done through awarding wins and losses, then ties are the best way to represent that neither team is better than the other on that day. Forcing a win/loss result skews how good or bad teams might appear based on their record.

I loathe the college OT rules.
 
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Insein said:
Play a full extra quarter. Teams can score as much as they want and feel free to play however they want same as regulation. After 15, if it's still tied, then so be it.
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I agree with this. I am somewhere between "Like" and "Don't like." If there was an "Indifferent" or "It's OK but could be better" option, that would be my choice.

They changed the rule so that both teams get a chance to score. Then, this year, they changed it so that both teams get a chance EVEN IF the first possession is a TD. I think that's fine, but 10 minutes is really pushing it to have two (or maybe 3) possessions. I would leave it as is, but allow for the full 15 minutes if needed. It's rarely going to come to that, but in the event that it does, I think it makes sense.
 
I hate the college rules. I'd rather just let it be a tie without any OT than the college rules. I'd prefer a full quarter to the current 10. I also don't think the sudden death aspect works well, even with the modification, as it's too easy to score a TD in the modern NFL so the coin toss is too big an advantage.

Maybe a happy medium would be a 10 minute quarter played in full, but rather than a new kickoff the game just continues from whatever down and distance the 4th quarter ended at?
 
I prefer anything that gives resolution (no tie), no matter how minor of measure it's based on. Hell, I don't care if it's literally decided by a coinflip, and I'm not even being facetious there -- but I'd rather it be something better than a coinflip of course.
Think about it. Consider a game that's down to 0:03 remaining, Team A is down 5, and they're at the one yard line. The entire game has come down to this one play to gain a yard. Do we have any problem with that? No, it's exciting! So would it be so awful if they did something like (and this is just kind of off the cuff, it could be anything) taking turns trying to gain 1 yard, and the first time that one team succeeds and the other fails, it's over?
A lot of people would probably hate the artificiality of it. Like penalty kicks in soccer, it's not really a continuation of soccer, it's a unique mini-game.

I could go on but this is already long.

Okay, okay, one more summary statement. The big thing for me is, when it's tied, each team has had the opportunity to score more points than the other the whole game. If they put in something as silly as a coin toss to determine the winner if it's tied at the end of overtime, then each team has an equal chance of winning, and if the loser of the coin toss is bitter about it, to him I say, "Next time score more points than your opponent!"
 
eighsse2 said:
I prefer anything that gives resolution (no tie), no matter how minor of measure it's based on. Hell, I don't care if it's literally decided by a coinflip, and I'm not even being facetious there -- but I'd rather it be something better than a coinflip of course.
Think about it. Consider a game that's down to 0:03 remaining, Team A is down 5, and they're at the one yard line. The entire game has come down to this one play to gain a yard. Do we have any problem with that? No, it's exciting! So would it be so awful if they did something like (and this is just kind of off the cuff, it could be anything) taking turns trying to gain 1 yard, and the first time that one team succeeds and the other fails, it's over?
A lot of people would probably hate the artificiality of it. Like penalty kicks in soccer, it's not really a continuation of soccer, it's a unique mini-game.

I could go on but this is already long.

Okay, okay, one more summary statement. The big thing for me is, when it's tied, each team has had the opportunity to score more points than the other the whole game. If they put in something as silly as a coin toss to determine the winner if it's tied at the end of overtime, then each team has an equal chance of winning, and if the loser of the coin toss is bitter about it, to him I say, "Next time score more points than your opponent!"
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Field goal kicks starting at the 40 yard line and backing up five yards until one team misses.
 
VikingFrog said:
eighsse2 said:
I prefer anything that gives resolution (no tie), no matter how minor of measure it's based on. Hell, I don't care if it's literally decided by a coinflip, and I'm not even being facetious there -- but I'd rather it be something better than a coinflip of course.
Think about it. Consider a game that's down to 0:03 remaining, Team A is down 5, and they're at the one yard line. The entire game has come down to this one play to gain a yard. Do we have any problem with that? No, it's exciting! So would it be so awful if they did something like (and this is just kind of off the cuff, it could be anything) taking turns trying to gain 1 yard, and the first time that one team succeeds and the other fails, it's over?
A lot of people would probably hate the artificiality of it. Like penalty kicks in soccer, it's not really a continuation of soccer, it's a unique mini-game.

I could go on but this is already long.

Okay, okay, one more summary statement. The big thing for me is, when it's tied, each team has had the opportunity to score more points than the other the whole game. If they put in something as silly as a coin toss to determine the winner if it's tied at the end of overtime, then each team has an equal chance of winning, and if the loser of the coin toss is bitter about it, to him I say, "Next time score more points than your opponent!"
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Field goal kicks starting at the 40 yard line and backing up five yards until one team misses.
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- All the o-linemen just have a 5x100-yard relay from goalline to goalline.

- Head coaches play chess.

- Paper football tournament.
 
VikingFrog said:
eighsse2 said:
I prefer anything that gives resolution (no tie), no matter how minor of measure it's based on. Hell, I don't care if it's literally decided by a coinflip, and I'm not even being facetious there -- but I'd rather it be something better than a coinflip of course.
Think about it. Consider a game that's down to 0:03 remaining, Team A is down 5, and they're at the one yard line. The entire game has come down to this one play to gain a yard. Do we have any problem with that? No, it's exciting! So would it be so awful if they did something like (and this is just kind of off the cuff, it could be anything) taking turns trying to gain 1 yard, and the first time that one team succeeds and the other fails, it's over?
A lot of people would probably hate the artificiality of it. Like penalty kicks in soccer, it's not really a continuation of soccer, it's a unique mini-game.

I could go on but this is already long.

Okay, okay, one more summary statement. The big thing for me is, when it's tied, each team has had the opportunity to score more points than the other the whole game. If they put in something as silly as a coin toss to determine the winner if it's tied at the end of overtime, then each team has an equal chance of winning, and if the loser of the coin toss is bitter about it, to him I say, "Next time score more points than your opponent!"
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Field goal kicks starting at the 40 yard line and backing up five yards until one team misses.
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I've thought about this as well. Or, make it really interesting, and go full-blown shoot-out like soccer. 40-yard kicks until someone missing, but each player can only kick once. So, first goes the kicker, then probably the punter, then probably the special teams WR who kicked a little in college, etc. Would never happen, but it might make for great TV. :ROFLMAO:
 
Leroy Hoard said:
My favorite thing about ties is that they help eliminate tie breakers.
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This is my favorite thing about them as well and I think often overlooked. I like games ending in a tie much better than teams with the same record at the end of the season having to rely on some other arbitrary tie breaker.

Agree with those who said no OT for regular season, save OT for playoffs. And playoff OT should be another full quarter of play, 15 minutes.

This is where I'll go off the rails. Still tied at that point after the extra quarter? Each team does goal line plays from the 10 yard line SIMULTANEOUSLY. So if it's Steelers Bengals I wanna see the Steelers offense lined up against the Bengals defense on one side of the field, and the Bengals offense against Steelers defense on the other side of the field. Best of 5 plays. Still tied after 5 plays each, they go 1 for 1 until someone converts and the other fails to convert. This will cut down on the time it takes as the one off/def combo can catch their breath and call a new play while the other off/def combo runs their play. I feel like this would be electric to watch.
 
That was the game of the year last night. Absolute bonanza for FF and extremely fun to watch.

And frankly neither team played good enough defense to deserve a win. Tie was the *perfect* way for it to end. Neither team played defense like they wanted to win, so this is exactly what should have happened.

I voted “love it”.
 
If I was Dictator of the NFL:

  • Substantially narrow the goal posts by at least 50%. Arena football width of 9' would work
  • allows extra points to go back to the same spot as a 2-point conversions. You can go for either without declaring, as it should be
  • OT goes back to the first score wins, and teams can win on a field goal:
    • NO KICKOFFS, NO COIN TOSSES.
    • Head coaches walk out to mid-field and submit their "blind bid" on paper
    • the team willing to start from the worst starting field position wins first possession
    • the worst position possible is from your own 1-yard line. However, coaches can additionally bid to start from that location as a 1st & 10, 1st & 20, all the way up to 1st & goal, and then 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th & goal (which no team would ever bid in practice)
    • Any ties at this point can be settled by coinflip or defaulting to the home team.

From there, I don't mind allowing ties after a 10 or 15-minute scoreless OT. Even with the narrow posts, there wouldn't be many ties if you give them 15 minutes. I don't mind that ties can occasionally happen. I'm not offended by making it an untimed sudden death, but NFLPA...
 
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
That was the game of the year last night. Absolute bonanza for FF and extremely fun to watch.

And frankly neither team played good enough defense to deserve a win. Tie was the *perfect* way for it to end. Neither team played defense like they wanted to win, so this is exactly what should have happened.

I voted “love it”.
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If they were tied 7-7 at that point would you feel the same? That neither offense played like they wanted to win or would it be different if the defenses were playing their tails off? Just curious to get your thoughts on the matter.
 
pinkstapler said:
This is where I'll go off the rails. Still tied at that point after the extra quarter? Each team does goal line plays from the 10 yard line SIMULTANEOUSLY. So if it's Steelers Bengals I wanna see the Steelers offense lined up against the Bengals defense on one side of the field, and the Bengals offense against Steelers defense on the other side of the field.
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What do you have against Travis Hunter?
 
I think there should be OT but with the changes in possession rules (both sides getting the ball no matter what) they need to add time so that what happened last night doesn't happen (each team only getting one possession and the second team milking the clock to kick at the buzzer to tie).
 
farfromforgotten said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
That was the game of the year last night. Absolute bonanza for FF and extremely fun to watch.

And frankly neither team played good enough defense to deserve a win. Tie was the *perfect* way for it to end. Neither team played defense like they wanted to win, so this is exactly what should have happened.

I voted “love it”.
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If they were tied 7-7 at that point would you feel the same? That neither offense played like they wanted to win or would it be different if the defenses were playing their tails off? Just curious to get your thoughts on the matter.
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I believe I made it abundantly clear that I am fine with ties. The score is irrelevant. I was merely providing the context of last night’s game, which obviously inspired this topic.
 
Ball is placed in the 50 yard line. Each team puts 11 players of their choosing in their own end zone
On the whistle the teams make a mad dash for the ball and can either secure the ball or pick it up and attempt to score.
Recovering team must attempt a field goal
If missed the other team gets to attempt the field goal
Repeat until someone wins
 
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