NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (2 Viewers)

[Dickie Dunn]

Good day for the Ruins ... Pens, Wings and Sens (shootout) all lose. Games in hand now all gone.

Atl. 3. Bruins 95

WC 1. Penguins 95

WC 2. Wings 95

9. Senators 93

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Good day for the Ruins ... Pens, Wings and Sens (shootout) all lose. Games in hand now all gone.

Atl. 3. Bruins 95

WC 1. Penguins 95

WC 2. Wings 95

9. Senators 93

What does it matter? If Boston makes the playoffs they have to play the Bolts, Habs, or Rags...pick your poison.

Wings have two of their last three with the Canes too while Boston has to go to DC and two stops in Florida. Pens and Sens play Tuesday in Ottawa.

 

[AcerFC]

Good day for the Ruins ... Pens, Wings and Sens (shootout) all lose. Games in hand now all gone.

Atl. 3. Bruins 95

WC 1. Penguins 95

WC 2. Wings 95

9. Senators 93

What does it matter? If Boston makes the playoffs they have to play the Bolts, Habs, or Rags...pick your poison. Wings have two of their last three with the Canes too while Boston has to go to DC and two stops in Florida. Pens and Sens play Tuesday in Ottawa.

bruins own the Rangers. Right now it's your wings vs rangers.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Good day for the Ruins ... Pens, Wings and Sens (shootout) all lose. Games in hand now all gone.

Atl. 3. Bruins 95

WC 1. Penguins 95

WC 2. Wings 95

9. Senators 93

What does it matter? If Boston makes the playoffs they have to play the Bolts, Habs, or Rags...pick your poison. Wings have two of their last three with the Canes too while Boston has to go to DC and two stops in Florida. Pens and Sens play Tuesday in Ottawa.

bruins own the Rangers.Right now it's your wings vs rangers.

I don't really care, I just want them in. Their first round opponent is gonna be one of the three clear best teams in the conference.

 

[ditka311]

Hawks playing dirty, but the good guys have the lead after two. 3rd period should be good.

This is rich. Complaining about another team playing dirty.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Hawks playing dirty, but the good guys have the lead after two. 3rd period should be good.

This is rich. Complaining about another team playing dirty.

The last time the Blues had a player suspended was 2013. Max Lappierre, who isn't even on the team anymore.

The Hawks had 2 players suspended in the playoffs last year, and they've have 2 players suspended this year - it should be 3 but we all know the NHL punishes result over intent so it won't be. I always watch the other team's broadcast so I'm not surprised to constantly see this rhetoric brought up because it's always echoed by broadcasters. But it's simply not true. The Blues play somewhat physical, nothing like in the past, but they play it clean. I saw somewhere one of you said they were top 3 or 5 in PIM, well they've given up the 15th most PP chances in the league. Right in the middle.

 

[tom22406]

Couldn't ask for much more in the last 3 game road trip @Mon,@Sens and @Wings by getting 5 of the possible 6 points and now also clinching a playoff spot.

All hail the Holtbeast!

 

[Eulogys]

Good day for the Ruins ... Pens, Wings and Sens (shootout) all lose. Games in hand now all gone.

Atl. 3. Bruins 95

WC 1. Penguins 95

WC 2. Wings 95

9. Senators 93

What does it matter? If Boston makes the playoffs they have to play the Bolts, Habs, or Rags...pick your poison.

Wings have two of their last three with the Canes too while Boston has to go to DC and two stops in Florida. Pens and Sens play Tuesday in Ottawa.

With the exception of Montreal, there's no other team in the East that the Bruins should be concerned with playing. They are combined 14-5-4 against those other 7 teams in or fighting for a playoff spot.

 

[Bill Brasky]

in for playoff pool whenever that thread gets fired up

 

[Hawks64]

Hawks playing dirty, but the good guys have the lead after two. 3rd period should be good.

This is rich. Complaining about another team playing dirty.

The last time the Blues had a player suspended was 2013. Max Lappierre, who isn't even on the team anymore.

The Hawks had 2 players suspended in the playoffs last year, and they've have 2 players suspended this year - it should be 3 but we all know the NHL punishes result over intent so it won't be. I always watch the other team's broadcast so I'm not surprised to constantly see this rhetoric brought up because it's always echoed by broadcasters. But it's simply not true. The Blues play somewhat physical, nothing like in the past, but they play it clean. I saw somewhere one of you said they were top 3 or 5 in PIM, well they've given up the 15th most PP chances in the league. Right in the middle.

Right here 5th most penalty minutes per game.

 

[tom22406]

Last 2 spots in the East coming down to the wire

Pens and Wings both have 95 points and the B's also are at the same number but hold the tiebreaker for the 3 slot in the Atlantic.Sens have 93pts and all 4 teams have 3 games remaining.

B's schedule has @Caps,@Florida and @Bolts

Wings have vs Canes,@Habs and @Canes

Pens have @Sens,vs Isles and @Sabres

Sens have vs Pens,@Rags and @Flyers

Pens and Sens game is the biggest and will either keep the Sens in the hunt if they win or send them packing because of the tiebreaker.

Montreal and TB are still in a battle for the top seed in the Atlantic and have an outside shot at catching the Rags for the conference seed.

 

[JaxBill]

Be funny if the Pens fans are forced to root for the Flyers on the last day of he season.

 

[kupcho1]

Be funny if the Pens fans are forced to root for the Flyers on the last day of he season.

Curious as to whether the Pens blow up the organization again should they fail to make the playoffs this year.

I can't think of a single move I've liked in the past 12 months.

Maybe it wasn't Bylsma and Shero

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Hawks playing dirty, but the good guys have the lead after two. 3rd period should be good.

This is rich. Complaining about another team playing dirty.

The last time the Blues had a player suspended was 2013. Max Lappierre, who isn't even on the team anymore.The Hawks had 2 players suspended in the playoffs last year, and they've have 2 players suspended this year - it should be 3 but we all know the NHL punishes result over intent so it won't be. I always watch the other team's broadcast so I'm not surprised to constantly see this rhetoric brought up because it's always echoed by broadcasters. But it's simply not true. The Blues play somewhat physical, nothing like in the past, but they play it clean. I saw somewhere one of you said they were top 3 or 5 in PIM, well they've given up the 15th most PP chances in the league. Right in the middle.

Right here 5th most penalty minutes per game.

I believe you. I just don't understand why you think that proves your point.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

That'd be crazy. Do they actually put Pittsburgh balls in the drawing though? Probably just increase the number of Edmonton ones.

 

[JaxBill]

Be funny if the Pens fans are forced to root for the Flyers on the last day of he season.

Curious as to whether the Pens blow up the organization again should they fail to make the playoffs this year.

I can't think of a single move I've liked in the past 12 months.

Maybe it wasn't Bylsma and Shero

I would think Johnston would be easier to replace than Rutherford but who knows?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

That'd be crazy. Do they actually put Pittsburgh balls in the drawing though? Probably just increase the number of Edmonton ones.

I think they keep track

 

[Bill Brasky]

Pens go into a few week slump where they are still playing alright despite missing key guys and still very likely to get into the playoffs where they will be favored against Montreal and close to even against New York...and we're getting "blow it up" talk? come on.

 

[Bill Brasky]

maybe the Pens can trade Crosby for Reilly Smith and straighten everything out.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Pens go into a few week slump where they are still playing alright despite missing key guys and still very likely to get into the playoffs where they will be favored against Montreal and close to even against New York...and we're getting "blow it up" talk? come on.

Bruins fans in here said their season was over a month ago

RE: Penguins, someone thinks they should try to deal Sid for Connor.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/why-the-penguins-should-trade-sidney-crosby-for-the-no-1-pick/

although I'm not sure a team would take that deal.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Hawks playing dirty, but the good guys have the lead after two. 3rd period should be good.

This is rich. Complaining about another team playing dirty.

The last time the Blues had a player suspended was 2013. Max Lappierre, who isn't even on the team anymore.

The Hawks had 2 players suspended in the playoffs last year, and they've have 2 players suspended this year - it should be 3 but we all know the NHL punishes result over intent so it won't be. I always watch the other team's broadcast so I'm not surprised to constantly see this rhetoric brought up because it's always echoed by broadcasters. But it's simply not true. The Blues play somewhat physical, nothing like in the past, but they play it clean. I saw somewhere one of you said they were top 3 or 5 in PIM, well they've given up the 15th most PP chances in the league. Right in the middle.

The idea that every penalty = a dirty play (which saying "they are 5th in penalties" pretty much implies) is pretty dumb.

 

[=Smackdown=]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

Please let this happen.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

penalty minutes are not the most reliable indicator of dirty play since a guy can get a 10-minute misconduct just for #####ing at the ref and a 2-minute penalty for taking a 2-handed chop at someone with their stick.

 

[Billy Bats]

Pens go into a few week slump where they are still playing alright despite missing key guys and still very likely to get into the playoffs where they will be favored against Montreal and close to even against New York...and we're getting "blow it up" talk? come on.

They're 20-20-7 since late December.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Pens go into a few week slump where they are still playing alright despite missing key guys and still very likely to get into the playoffs where they will be favored against Montreal and close to even against New York...and we're getting "blow it up" talk? come on.

They're 20-20-7 since late December.

yeah, going 3-8-1 in the last few weeks will do that.

blow it up. trade Malkin to the Kings.

 

[Bill Brasky]

if the Kings get the Pacific wild card spot, is there any question that they roll that division again?

 

[JaxBill]

Pens go into a few week slump where they are still playing alright despite missing key guys and still very likely to get into the playoffs where they will be favored against Montreal and close to even against New York...and we're getting "blow it up" talk? come on.

They're 20-20-7 since late December.

yeah, going 3-8-1 in the last few weeks will do that.

blow it up. trade Malkin to the Kings.

They've only had 15 regulation wins in last 46 games.

 

[Sabertooth]

Redwings need me to stop watching them. They lose every time I watch.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Wild with a big statement game vs. Jets tonight.

 

[tom22406]

if the Kings get the Pacific wild card spot, is there any question that they roll that division again?

They still have a good shot to get 2nd in that division.But I agree that division looks very doable for them,if they hit the Central all bets are off but given their history I wouldn't even put that past them getting it done.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

if the Kings get the Pacific wild card spot, is there any question that they roll that division again?

nope

 

[Dickie Dunn]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

That'd be crazy. Do they actually put Pittsburgh balls in the drawing though? Probably just increase the number of Edmonton ones.

I think they keep track

They would have to, in order to keep track of the rest of the draft order. There would be a difference between Pittsburgh's pick bumping up and everyone dropping down a spot, or Edmonton's moving up and only a couple trickling down.

 

[hagmania]

Need a little help from Winnipeg and Minnesota. Frustrated the Preds gave up their Division lead.

 

[Bill Brasky]

if the Kings get the Pacific wild card spot, is there any question that they roll that division again?

They still have a good shot to get 2nd in that division.But I agree that division looks very doable for them,if they hit the Central all bets are off but given their history I wouldn't even put that past them getting it done.

I only said wild card because I think if Winnipeg gets in there they could give them problems if the match up.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

That'd be crazy. Do they actually put Pittsburgh balls in the drawing though? Probably just increase the number of Edmonton ones.

I think they keep track

They would have to, in order to keep track of the rest of the draft order. There would be a difference between Pittsburgh's pick bumping up and everyone dropping down a spot, or Edmonton's moving up and only a couple trickling down.

Good point

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

penalty minutes are not the most reliable indicator of dirty play since a guy can get a 10-minute misconduct just for #####ing at the ref and a 2-minute penalty for taking a 2-handed chop at someone with their stick.

Exactly! That's why I mentioned power plays against which the Blues are smack dab in the middle of the league. It's not perfect either, but it's a better indicator than PIM. I guess the Blues disparity there is that they fight more than other teams. I don't equate that with being dirty.

 

[RUSF18]

Rangers can clinch the Presidents Trophy with a win tomorrow night.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Now imagine how many points the Bruins would have if Savard hadn't missed those four games in January.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

in for playoff pool whenever that thread gets fired up

Yeah me too. I'll be in Vegas but as per usual, I'm in.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Now imagine how many points the Bruins would have if Savard hadn't missed those four games in January.

Savard on the trading block? (Not a goof.)

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Sharks officially eliminated so they can save their poor fans the embarrassment of yet another playoff meltdown.

 

[HughHoney]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

Imagine if the Oilers woulda finished in last place and the Pens missed the playoffs. Pens win lottery, Edm gets McDavid and Eichel.

 

[JaxBill]

if the Pens miss the playoffs, could you imagine if their 1st round pick won the lottery? They traded it to Edmonton already.

David Perron traded for Connor McDavid would be pretty awesome.

Imagine if the Oilers woulda finished in last place and the Pens missed the playoffs. Pens win lottery, Edm gets McDavid and Eichel.

And somehow still manage to stink

 

[Cjw_55106]

The Wild appear to be going back to their old ways.

Its been pretty well talked about that the refs dont care for MN (Koivu in particular). I was thinking last night....do the Mn Players whine to the refs a lot because Yeo hardly says anything? Maybe once every 4 games he'll say something, very briefly, but 90% of the time, when Mn gets screwed on a call or non call, the camera cuts to the bench and in Yeo's anger, he takes a drink of water. If you watch for it, it really is odd. Perhaps the players are just whiney #####es, or perhaps they feel like no one elase is going to stick up for them?

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I watched that game last night. I thought Minnesota looked really good, just got beat by the goalie. As for the penalties, I heard your broadcast complaining about that... And it just seems silly to me. You guys are middle of the league in power play opportunities. Everybody has nights where they get screwed by the refs. It happens.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/team/_/stat/special-teams/sort/powerPlayOpportunities

Edit - sorry, misread your post. No idea if the refs dislike your team more than most. Seems like a weird thing to analyze.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Parise gets mauled every game and never draws a penalty. I agree on an isolated game, teams get screwed. Doesnt usually happen night after night to most teams.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I watched that game last night. I thought Minnesota looked really good, just got beat by the goalie.

wasn't a great game other than a few stretches where they turned it on, particularly in the 2nd. Winnipeg is a tough, desperate team though and I give them a lot of credit.

 

[Bill Brasky]

The Wild appear to be going back to their old ways.

Its been pretty well talked about that the refs dont care for MN (Koivu in particular). I was thinking last night....do the Mn Players whine to the refs a lot because Yeo hardly says anything? Maybe once every 4 games he'll say something, very briefly, but 90% of the time, when Mn gets screwed on a call or non call, the camera cuts to the bench and in Yeo's anger, he takes a drink of water. If you watch for it, it really is odd. Perhaps the players are just whiney #####es, or perhaps they feel like no one elase is going to stick up for them?

haven't lost back to back games or by more than 1 goal in almost 3 months. last three games were not pushovers either. it was bound to happen and it's better now when they are all but in and before the playoffs. plenty of time to get momentum back.

it usually evens out. the other night against Detroit they had the benefit of the whistle, last night they didn't. couple glaring missed calls but that happens. Koivu getting the boot an awful lot lately, often unfairly IMO. though he cheats a lot on faceoffs (everyone does but he more than most) so maybe they're cracking down on him.

I don't think any refs have anything against them and think that's pretty preposterous in general, though Brad Meier leaves plenty of suspicion with his history.

Suter has been whining a lot lately and I think he definitely wasn't getting the benefit of the doubt the other night against the Rangers because of it. Yeo actually yells very often.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Very entertaining game with the Icelanders and Rags last night

Caught a bit of Price once again making a strong case for the Vezina,just has been outstanding all year long.

Vezina? that should be a given. Hart is the only question left, and that's only because goalies never win. that team is mediocre to below average without him.

Carey Price runaway Hart winner; Erik Karlsson for Norris per TSN coach poll