Fat Nick
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NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (3 Viewers)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
JaxBill
Footballguy
A look at why the NHL is going with Major League baseball's internet arm.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/9090897/mlb-bam-live-streaming-internet-tv-nhl-hbo-now-espn
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/9090897/mlb-bam-live-streaming-internet-tv-nhl-hbo-now-espn
JaxBill
Footballguy
So what was the supposed nature of the alleged incident that they can neither confirm nor deny ever happened at any given time at any given place?
http://sportsmockery.com/2015/08/patrick-kanes-secret-parties-could-be-what-the-police-are-investigating/So what was the supposed nature of the alleged incident that they can neither confirm nor deny ever happened at any given time at any given place?
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Rape investigation.
Foosball God
Foos
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Somebody in Hamburg, NY trying to hit it big.
Although Kane is a pretty big scumbag around town, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Although Kane is a pretty big scumbag around town, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
most reports I've heard lately indicate he's matured considerably.
giving him the benefit of the doubt here, and I'm assuming something happened at one of his parties so he's a focal point, but that he's not necessarily the perp.
well, guess I missed the latest reports.
from what I've heard of Kane over the years, I guess I'm not surprised but really thought he had grown up.
from what I've heard of Kane over the years, I guess I'm not surprised but really thought he had grown up.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Last summer he was at Woodlawn beach trying to get a few ladies to go home with him. One woman turned him down and said I don't care who you are, you still look like that. - Found that quite humerous.
now reports saying it's a statutory rape allegation. I think NY law sets age of consent at 16yo.
Foosball God
Foos
Too soon for 5 hole jokes?
Capella
Footballguy
Oh boynow reports saying it's a statutory rape allegation. I think NY law sets age of consent at 16yo.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Whoa, just read this...
Statcruncher
Footballguy
Sounds ungood if there's any truth to it.
all the comments I'm seeing on facebook are along the lines of "what was she doing in a bar if she's under 18? How would he know she was so young if he met her in a bar?"
ummm...pretty much everybody starts going out to bars at 16 or 17 in Buffalo. Kane was no different. Bouncers used to say "our motto is we accept fake id".
ummm...pretty much everybody starts going out to bars at 16 or 17 in Buffalo. Kane was no different. Bouncers used to say "our motto is we accept fake id".
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I am not a lawyer, and don't play one on TV, but I wonder if there is any kind of legal argument that can be made here if you meet someone in a bar that ends up being underage. What is the liability of the bar in such a case?Aaron Rudnicki said:
Capella
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Gotta be kidding me (well, it's not a surprise). As the most casual of fans, this one stinks. Love watching him play.
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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I'm sure you're right, but there's not a lot of gray area between someone who can be in a bar legally and someone who is considered underage with regard to statutory rape. We're talking 5-6 years here, not just a year or two.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Is this still a rumor out there? I've read multiple times the victim went to the hospital and submitted to a rape kit. Seems to me this is more than him having sex with someone not old enough to give consent.now reports saying it's a statutory rape allegation. I think NY law sets age of consent at 16yo.
I think one source reported that rumor early on, but not sure it's been substantiated since then.Is this still a rumor out there? I've read multiple times the victim went to the hospital and submitted to a rape kit. Seems to me this is more than him having sex with someone not old enough to give consent.now reports saying it's a statutory rape allegation. I think NY law sets age of consent at 16yo.
there are a lot of rumors out there. not sure what is true or not.
kentric
Footballguy
Some of the comments are amazing. One person is arguing that the woman went to the hospital and subjected herself to a rape test and therefore she must have definitely been raped because women don't make false accusations like that and go to the trouble of going to a hospital.Baloney Sandwich said:
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
So it's safe to say that the best players in the league and the best teams lack, um, discipline. Sharp rumors, Kane rumors, Stoll, Carter rumors, Richards.
How do the Kings not make the playoffs? Question from an outsider.
How do the Kings not make the playoffs? Question from an outsider.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
New details emerge in allegations against NHL star Patrick Kane
Alleged rape victim has bite marks, a scratch
http://www.buffalonews.com/feed/new-details-emerge-in-allegations-against-nhl-star-patrick-kane-20150809
New details are emerging about the time that Patrick Kane spent in a downtown Buffalo nightclub last weekend and the allegations made by a woman who claims that Kane raped her after meeting her in the club and taking her to his Town of Hamburg waterfront home.
Sources with knowledge of the investigation said that the young woman who has accused the hockey superstar of rape had bite marks on her shoulders and a scratch on her leg after the alleged attack.
The woman alleges that Kane invited her and a female friend to his home for a private party after they met him last Saturday night at SkyBar, a popular nightclub on Franklin Street, the sources said.
Shortly after she and her friend arrived at Kane’s home on Old Lakeshore Road, the accuser alleges that she went by herself into another room, where Kane followed her, overpowered her and raped her, the sources said.
The woman left Kane’s home with her friend and used a cellphone to call a relative immediately after the alleged attack. She then went to a local hospital for examination, and police were called afterward, the sources said.
The alleged attack occurred about 4 a.m. last Sunday, about an hour after Kane was seen leaving SkyBar.
A person who knows the woman described her as frantic and traumatized when she called her relative to report what happened.
Alleged rape victim has bite marks, a scratch
http://www.buffalonews.com/feed/new-details-emerge-in-allegations-against-nhl-star-patrick-kane-20150809
New details are emerging about the time that Patrick Kane spent in a downtown Buffalo nightclub last weekend and the allegations made by a woman who claims that Kane raped her after meeting her in the club and taking her to his Town of Hamburg waterfront home.
Sources with knowledge of the investigation said that the young woman who has accused the hockey superstar of rape had bite marks on her shoulders and a scratch on her leg after the alleged attack.
The woman alleges that Kane invited her and a female friend to his home for a private party after they met him last Saturday night at SkyBar, a popular nightclub on Franklin Street, the sources said.
Shortly after she and her friend arrived at Kane’s home on Old Lakeshore Road, the accuser alleges that she went by herself into another room, where Kane followed her, overpowered her and raped her, the sources said.
The woman left Kane’s home with her friend and used a cellphone to call a relative immediately after the alleged attack. She then went to a local hospital for examination, and police were called afterward, the sources said.
The alleged attack occurred about 4 a.m. last Sunday, about an hour after Kane was seen leaving SkyBar.
A person who knows the woman described her as frantic and traumatized when she called her relative to report what happened.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Four day grace period is now over, this one is good to go.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
So Mike Richards got cut from the Kings and they're out from under his contract and cap hit, no questions asked?
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tom22406
Footballguy
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/38/387335b6eac0b875cace16fbc9f3173f90fc9b6890720028d73fda0a6f2f26a8.jpgFour day grace period is now over, this one is good to go.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
And then this comes out 10min ago, they must be watching....
@NHLPA: The NHLPA has filed a grievance on behalf of Mike Richards contesting the termination of his contract by the LA Kings.
12:09pm - 10 Aug 15
Hawks64
Footballguy
Man I go on vacation and the #### hits the fan. If there is any truth to the accusations I hope he doesn't get any preferential treatment. If this is based on regret or looking for a payout hope she is held accountable for it.
Regardless I would assume if he's charged and found guilty the Hawks have an out on his contract a la Mike Richards? If he's charged and found not guilty or if there are no charges assuming the Hawks put in him on some type of lock down or give him a baby sitter and he goes through some type of treatment for alcohol/etc. Pretty disappointed that he has found himself in another situation with booze, thought he turned the corner with all that non sense.
Regardless I would assume if he's charged and found guilty the Hawks have an out on his contract a la Mike Richards? If he's charged and found not guilty or if there are no charges assuming the Hawks put in him on some type of lock down or give him a baby sitter and he goes through some type of treatment for alcohol/etc. Pretty disappointed that he has found himself in another situation with booze, thought he turned the corner with all that non sense.
not sure if you guys saw this:
http://sportsmockery.com/2015/08/update-patrick-kane-may-have-committed-a-heinous-crime-doesnt-look-good-for-him/
Tim Graham is a top notch journalist. This really doesn't look good for Kaner.
"“doesn’t look good … he’s being investigated for something heinous.”
“It’s looking more ominous than not,” Graham says, based on what his sources tell him.
"Graham says Kane has a very “sloppy” personal life and he’s not surprised at all by the allegation."
http://sportsmockery.com/2015/08/update-patrick-kane-may-have-committed-a-heinous-crime-doesnt-look-good-for-him/
Tim Graham is a top notch journalist. This really doesn't look good for Kaner.
"“doesn’t look good … he’s being investigated for something heinous.”
“It’s looking more ominous than not,” Graham says, based on what his sources tell him.
"Graham says Kane has a very “sloppy” personal life and he’s not surprised at all by the allegation."
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
yikes
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Here's the full interview. Nothing else earth shattering from you quoted, but in case anyone wants to listen.
http://www.csnchicago.com/video_content_type/buffalo-reporter-tim-graham-kane-investigation
rockaction
Footballguy
There's a whole lot more I think goes into reporting this than not. I'd check in with some legal experts about rape and reporting of names, situations, etc. You'll find that it's really intricate.
The Deadspin claim that Graham makes to set the tone about Kane sounds weak; they had a "Follow The Kane" segment back when the Hawks beat the Bruins. It was in poor taste, and didn't pan out for them. That said, there's probably a reason for it.
That also said, let the journalistic ethics run their course, let the system run its course, and we'll all find out soon. Sounds awful all around.
eta2* The "Follow the Kane" segment was set to a Korn cover, IIRC. "Follow The Leader." It encouraged people to dredge up whatever they could about Kane and send it to them for a price.
The Deadspin claim that Graham makes to set the tone about Kane sounds weak; they had a "Follow The Kane" segment back when the Hawks beat the Bruins. It was in poor taste, and didn't pan out for them. That said, there's probably a reason for it.
That also said, let the journalistic ethics run their course, let the system run its course, and we'll all find out soon. Sounds awful all around.
eta2* The "Follow the Kane" segment was set to a Korn cover, IIRC. "Follow The Leader." It encouraged people to dredge up whatever they could about Kane and send it to them for a price.
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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Shawn Thornton, on what advice he'd give former Panthers teammate and new Bruin Jimmy Hayes:
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And more, on Hamilton forcing his way out of town:
"Listen, I’m a little surprised. I love Boston and for someone to want to get out of it, I don’t get it, especially in the first few years (of his career). But it’s his world. He had decisions to make and that’s the one he made. Hopefully, he’s happy in Calgary.”
[SIZE=1.1em]“Stay out of the bar. You can’t hide here. Don’t be dancing on tables with your shirt off and bottles of vodka in your hand, like somebody else.”[/SIZE]
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[/SIZE]And more, on Hamilton forcing his way out of town:
"Listen, I’m a little surprised. I love Boston and for someone to want to get out of it, I don’t get it, especially in the first few years (of his career). But it’s his world. He had decisions to make and that’s the one he made. Hopefully, he’s happy in Calgary.”
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