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No Jene Bramel Projections? (1 Viewer)

TheMathNinja

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Does anyone know why Jene Bramel doesn't have projections listed on the FBG site? I feel like it would help a lot with helping form my own projections for the year.

 
I don't provide projections to the site.

In my first few years at FBG, I used to do a full set of projections a few times a year as a quality control measure to ensure I wasn't ranking a player that I liked too high or that I didn't like too low. At that point, we were only producing one set of projections so they were never published to the site. Over time, I began to realize that I was approaching those projections in plateaus. Was X inside linebacker more likely to make 78, 85, 92 or 95 solo tackles? My thinking was the same for defensive ends. I also didn't like that my defensive projections didn't account for whether I felt the projection was closer to ceiling or floor or and didn't show any confidence level about my projected expectation. And I found that I wouldn't draft from my projection list.

So, I started producing tiers instead and loosely tying them to a lineup / roster slot expectation (elite DE1, LB2 with upside, matchup safety, etc). That better fits how I approach a draft pick, free agent pick up, trade, lineup decision. Since that time, we've started publishing a second set of projections and Aaron Rudnicki has picked them up.

I think the numbers are important, but to me the context is more important. If you ask me to give a projection for a single player, I'll give you a general expectation based on my tier philosophy but also include some measure of ceiling/floor expectation because I want to make a "why" argument. For example, you can't say Mychal Kendricks is a LB2 with upside and then say his most likely projection is 75-19-1.

The main reason we do projections at FBG is to drive the Draft Dominator and other preseason and weekly tools. We couldn't generate a DVBD number without the single projections. But there are some things those projections don't do well and it's why Bloom and I have published the tiers and commentary as a adjunct in recent seasons.

That's probably a longer explanation than you were looking for...but I am not (and in all likelihood won't be) producing projections for FBG. Discussion is always welcome in the tier threads, however. Working on updating the tier series today and tomorrow.

 
I don't provide projections to the site.

In my first few years at FBG, I used to do a full set of projections a few times a year as a quality control measure to ensure I wasn't ranking a player that I liked too high or that I didn't like too low. At that point, we were only producing one set of projections so they were never published to the site. Over time, I began to realize that I was approaching those projections in plateaus. Was X inside linebacker more likely to make 78, 85, 92 or 95 solo tackles? My thinking was the same for defensive ends. I also didn't like that my defensive projections didn't account for whether I felt the projection was closer to ceiling or floor or and didn't show any confidence level about my projected expectation. And I found that I wouldn't draft from my projection list.

So, I started producing tiers instead and loosely tying them to a lineup / roster slot expectation (elite DE1, LB2 with upside, matchup safety, etc). That better fits how I approach a draft pick, free agent pick up, trade, lineup decision. Since that time, we've started publishing a second set of projections and Aaron Rudnicki has picked them up.

I think the numbers are important, but to me the context is more important. If you ask me to give a projection for a single player, I'll give you a general expectation based on my tier philosophy but also include some measure of ceiling/floor expectation because I want to make a "why" argument. For example, you can't say Mychal Kendricks is a LB2 with upside and then say his most likely projection is 75-19-1.

The main reason we do projections at FBG is to drive the Draft Dominator and other preseason and weekly tools. We couldn't generate a DVBD number without the single projections. But there are some things those projections don't do well and it's why Bloom and I have published the tiers and commentary as a adjunct in recent seasons.

That's probably a longer explanation than you were looking for...but I am not (and in all likelihood won't be) producing projections for FBG. Discussion is always welcome in the tier threads, however. Working on updating the tier series today and tomorrow.
Sheesh, if you put as much effort into projections as you do in defense of not doing them you could have them done. I think it's just laziness.

 
I don't provide projections to the site.

In my first few years at FBG, I used to do a full set of projections a few times a year as a quality control measure to ensure I wasn't ranking a player that I liked too high or that I didn't like too low. At that point, we were only producing one set of projections so they were never published to the site. Over time, I began to realize that I was approaching those projections in plateaus. Was X inside linebacker more likely to make 78, 85, 92 or 95 solo tackles? My thinking was the same for defensive ends. I also didn't like that my defensive projections didn't account for whether I felt the projection was closer to ceiling or floor or and didn't show any confidence level about my projected expectation. And I found that I wouldn't draft from my projection list.

So, I started producing tiers instead and loosely tying them to a lineup / roster slot expectation (elite DE1, LB2 with upside, matchup safety, etc). That better fits how I approach a draft pick, free agent pick up, trade, lineup decision. Since that time, we've started publishing a second set of projections and Aaron Rudnicki has picked them up.

I think the numbers are important, but to me the context is more important. If you ask me to give a projection for a single player, I'll give you a general expectation based on my tier philosophy but also include some measure of ceiling/floor expectation because I want to make a "why" argument. For example, you can't say Mychal Kendricks is a LB2 with upside and then say his most likely projection is 75-19-1.

The main reason we do projections at FBG is to drive the Draft Dominator and other preseason and weekly tools. We couldn't generate a DVBD number without the single projections. But there are some things those projections don't do well and it's why Bloom and I have published the tiers and commentary as a adjunct in recent seasons.

That's probably a longer explanation than you were looking for...but I am not (and in all likelihood won't be) producing projections for FBG. Discussion is always welcome in the tier threads, however. Working on updating the tier series today and tomorrow.
Sheesh, if you put as much effort into projections as you do in defense of not doing them you could have them done. I think it's just laziness.
I might get in trouble here but chaos your a dumb ###!! Jene puts out top notch product all year and provides amazing products that most will swear by, maybe your lazy and if the provided projections and jene's articles aren't enough do your own research or use other sites.

 
I don't provide projections to the site.

In my first few years at FBG, I used to do a full set of projections a few times a year as a quality control measure to ensure I wasn't ranking a player that I liked too high or that I didn't like too low. At that point, we were only producing one set of projections so they were never published to the site. Over time, I began to realize that I was approaching those projections in plateaus. Was X inside linebacker more likely to make 78, 85, 92 or 95 solo tackles? My thinking was the same for defensive ends. I also didn't like that my defensive projections didn't account for whether I felt the projection was closer to ceiling or floor or and didn't show any confidence level about my projected expectation. And I found that I wouldn't draft from my projection list.

So, I started producing tiers instead and loosely tying them to a lineup / roster slot expectation (elite DE1, LB2 with upside, matchup safety, etc). That better fits how I approach a draft pick, free agent pick up, trade, lineup decision. Since that time, we've started publishing a second set of projections and Aaron Rudnicki has picked them up.

I think the numbers are important, but to me the context is more important. If you ask me to give a projection for a single player, I'll give you a general expectation based on my tier philosophy but also include some measure of ceiling/floor expectation because I want to make a "why" argument. For example, you can't say Mychal Kendricks is a LB2 with upside and then say his most likely projection is 75-19-1.

The main reason we do projections at FBG is to drive the Draft Dominator and other preseason and weekly tools. We couldn't generate a DVBD number without the single projections. But there are some things those projections don't do well and it's why Bloom and I have published the tiers and commentary as a adjunct in recent seasons.

That's probably a longer explanation than you were looking for...but I am not (and in all likelihood won't be) producing projections for FBG. Discussion is always welcome in the tier threads, however. Working on updating the tier series today and tomorrow.
Sheesh, if you put as much effort into projections as you do in defense of not doing them you could have them done. I think it's just laziness.
If you didn't have your head stuck up your butt you'd realize that dr.jene is one of the best injury and idp resources in the country. accusing him of laziness is deranged
 
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Take it easy boys.... :lol:

Chaos Commish's comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek. We've been in several leagues together in the past and Jene and Chaos are good friends, I assure you.

 
Take it easy boys.... :lol:

Chaos Commish's comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek. We've been in several leagues together in the past and Jene and Chaos are good friends, I assure you.
It's okay, GB. So I've been called deranged with my head stuck up my dumb ###. Jene would put it more elegantly, but essentially say the same thing. :lol:

 
Take it easy boys.... :lol:

Chaos Commish's comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek. We've been in several leagues together in the past and Jene and Chaos are good friends, I assure you.
It's okay, GB. So I've been called deranged with my head stuck up my dumb ###. Jene would put it more elegantly, but essentially say the same thing. :lol:
Elegant and lazy is an often desired but oh-so-rarely achieved combination. I'm flattered.

 
Take it easy boys.... :lol:

Chaos Commish's comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek. We've been in several leagues together in the past and Jene and Chaos are good friends, I assure you.
It's okay, GB. So I've been called deranged with my head stuck up my dumb ###. Jene would put it more elegantly, but essentially say the same thing. :lol:
Elegant and lazy is an often desired but oh-so-rarely achieved combination. I'm flattered.
Your two defenders truly tickled me today. I laughed pretty hard and even showed my daughter that she's not the only who thinks I'm a dumb ###. No offense taken guys.

Back to the topic. I used to do full projections (for another site for that matter) and all they truly provided ME was tiers. Here's the real flattery. I quit doing them when I met Jene. ;)

 
Take it easy boys.... :lol:

Chaos Commish's comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek. We've been in several leagues together in the past and Jene and Chaos are good friends, I assure you.
It's okay, GB. So I've been called deranged with my head stuck up my dumb ###. Jene would put it more elegantly, but essentially say the same thing. :lol:
Elegant and lazy is an often desired but oh-so-rarely achieved combination. I'm flattered.
Your two defenders truly tickled me today. I laughed pretty hard and even showed my daughter that she's not the only who thinks I'm a dumb ###. No offense taken guys.

Back to the topic. I used to do full projections (for another site for that matter) and all they truly provided ME was tiers. Here's the real flattery. I quit doing them when I met Jene. ;)
Chaos after much thought I realized I am as big of a dumb ### as you are so guess I am the pot calling the kettle black!! Anyways jene is the man and his tiering combined with nortons projections are a big reason I make money every year in IDP leagues.

 

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