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No one here is laughing at anyone with children or preaching that no kids should be for everyone.
One thing that's great about an anonymous online forum is people say what they really think. When someone out in the real world is really rude or condescending, and you wonder, are they really that sanctimonious and awful deep down inside? Well, quite possibly, yes, because this dude doesn't seem to be joking.
Yeah you never hear grandparents talk about being alone or left in a retirement community to die while no comes and sees them. Only happens to the childless.
I have been to all of these places and more. I have 2 kids that are 9 and 7. All of the foreign travel was before children and marriage. Not that we will not travel abroad now with the kids. Quite the opposite. Having children doesn't mean you can't travel and see places anymore - it means you have to plan a little more.
It's possible to travel with kids but way more difficult. And you have a lot less time and disposable income to do it with. This is not some fabricated tradeoff. I can't possibly do some of the stuff my childfree friend does.
I agree with you here. The cost of travel goes up for sure. I would say it is way more inconvenient than difficult. Flying in general has become more difficult and inconvenient since 9/11. The frequency with which we take trips is also different. As my kids get a little older it has become somewhat easier. When they were little it was way more difficult but I see what you are saying and tend to agree with you.
Admittedly, my post did a poor job of making my point. Judging by the timestamp, I was probably a bit hammered....lol
well look at that. didn't realize I had already posted in this thread.My wife and I are the same way. We've never wanted kids but figured the day would come when we would feel differently about the subject. She's now 34 and I'm 33 and we still do not want to have kids so I guess there's a good chance we never will.
It's funny how people look at you when you tell them you don't want children. It's like you're speaking a foreign language to them and they can't even grasp the concept.
when my wife and I got married, we figured the day would come when we would want to have kids. that day never came for either of us. 41 years old, married almost 16 years. no regrets in not having kids.
absolutely no problem (or care) with others having kids. not sure why some of them seem to get so angry because we don't want what they want.
well look at that. didn't realize I had already posted in this thread.My wife and I are the same way. We've never wanted kids but figured the day would come when we would feel differently about the subject. She's now 34 and I'm 33 and we still do not want to have kids so I guess there's a good chance we never will.
It's funny how people look at you when you tell them you don't want children. It's like you're speaking a foreign language to them and they can't even grasp the concept.
where you been, my friend? haven't seen you around much.when my wife and I got married, we figured the day would come when we would want to have kids. that day never came for either of us. 41 years old, married almost 16 years. no regrets in not having kids.
absolutely no problem (or care) with others having kids. not sure why some of them seem to get so angry because we don't want what they want.
I'm having my three nephews (3, 7, 10) spend the night with me in the city next Friday night. We are going to have some fun and then I'm going to ship them back to the burbs!!
yeah, kinda weird seeing my thoughts eight years apart. then again, it's kinda weird to think I've been coming here for 14 or 15 years.well look at that. didn't realize I had already posted in this thread.My wife and I are the same way. We've never wanted kids but figured the day would come when we would feel differently about the subject. She's now 34 and I'm 33 and we still do not want to have kids so I guess there's a good chance we never will.
It's funny how people look at you when you tell them you don't want children. It's like you're speaking a foreign language to them and they can't even grasp the concept.
almost the exact same thing.
working way too much.where you been, my friend? haven't seen you around much.when my wife and I got married, we figured the day would come when we would want to have kids. that day never came for either of us. 41 years old, married almost 16 years. no regrets in not having kids.
absolutely no problem (or care) with others having kids. not sure why some of them seem to get so angry because we don't want what they want.
I'm having my three nephews (3, 7, 10) spend the night with me in the city next Friday night. We are going to have some fun and then I'm going to ship them back to the burbs!!
I think that happens fairly often, especially in the lower socio-economic groups. For some poor girls, motherhood is the only accomplishment available to them (in their view). If you have poor self-esteem and you don't seem to matter to anyone else, then you give birth so there is at least one person to whom you are the most important person in the world. Plus you can't be as easily ignored by adults. It's crazy and the frequency of it happening is probably declining but it happens.Woman asked me once why I didn't want kids. She thought I was crazy. She didn't have kids but wanted them someday. She said, "But don't you want to have someone around who will love you all the time?"
That was her reason to have kids.
I think there are a lot of funny reasons why people have or don't have kids. It's just such a life changing decision, that not many truly understands what it means to be a parent until they are one.Woman asked me once why I didn't want kids. She thought I was crazy. She didn't have kids but wanted them someday. She said, "But don't you want to have someone around who will love you all the time?"
That was her reason to have kids.
I do want that. That's why I have a dog.Woman asked me once why I didn't want kids. She thought I was crazy. She didn't have kids but wanted them someday. She said, "But don't you want to have someone around who will love you all the time?"
That was her reason to have kids.
My MIL in law wants that and drives her daughter crazy trying to get it.I do want that. That's why I have a dog.Woman asked me once why I didn't want kids. She thought I was crazy. She didn't have kids but wanted them someday. She said, "But don't you want to have someone around who will love you all the time?"
That was her reason to have kids.
I'm curious also. I'm a "no kids" guy but my GF wants 2 children. I don't think she's hellbent on having them but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to get married with this kid issue unresolved.
While I never wanted kids, I probably would have if the girl I loved really wanted them. A big connection that we had was that we both really didn't want them. But I would have been that guy that sacrificed to make her happy. I don't dislike kids and would probably be on the parents side of this discussion very easily.
Sarnoff said:Woman asked me once why I didn't want kids. She thought I was crazy. She didn't have kids but wanted them someday. She said, "But don't you want to have someone around who will love you all the time?"
That was her reason to have kids.
The places I've traveled with my almost 6 yo daughter: Tanzania (3x), Australia, Hawaii, Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Boston, London, Paris, all over northern Italy, Spain, and Istanbul.walnutz said:
