No Mo' Luv For Henry (1 Viewer)

[maddawg2020]

All summer long Travis Henry has been talked about so much on this website and he's been amongst the top-7 RB's in every VBD sheet that has come out. I too love Henry this season. I drafted him and Willie Parker (1.10 and 2.01) in my 10-team big money league.

But last night I downloaded the most recent stats and Henry is at #15 behind the likes of Rudi, Maroney, Alexander, McGahee, Portis, Reggie Bush, and MJD. I have him ahead of all these guys (even with the injury). What's up with that? Can anyone explain why FBG and Dodds are thinking this? Anyone else feeling like this about Henry?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Probably the knee injury

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Maybe you were dropped on your head, blanked out and forgot that Henry has a MCL sprain. That would be why he has dropped, even though he will probably be back for week 1....there's no guarantee.

 

[rolliehouliranson]

It happened right around the time of the injury. He went from 3 on my DD to 11 after it happened.

 

[shadyridr]

Do you really not know this?

 

[maddawg2020]

Maybe you were dropped on your head, blanked out and forgot that Henry has a MCL sprain. That would be why he has dropped, even though he will probably be back for week 1....there's no guarantee.

there has been another VBD sheet since the injury and he only slid like 2 spots right after the injury but now he's slide a lot more. everything that has been said would make me believe he would back up or stay around 9 or 10 at worse. everything I've read is that henry is fine and will be back by week 1. is there something I'm missing?

 

[The Bad CEO]

Maybe you were dropped on your head, blanked out and forgot that Henry has a MCL sprain. That would be why he has dropped, even though he will probably be back for week 1....there's no guarantee.

there has been another VBD sheet since the injury and he only slid like 2 spots right after the injury but now he's slide a lot more. everything that has been said would make me believe he would back up or stay around 9 or 10 at worse. everything I've read is that henry is fine and will be back by week 1. is there something I'm missing?

Yes

 

[Koya]

I know the drop he is referring too... the last couple days have seen a huge drop, well after the initial bump down Henry got due to his injury.

 

[Da Guru]

Knee injury + Butterfingers + Shanny = Dropoff

 

[gianmarco]

Knee injury + Butterfingers + Shanny = Dropoff

Yes, but only the knee injury happened in the last couple of days. Parts B and C of that equation have been known and still had him ranked high.

 

[maddawg2020]

I know the drop he is referring too... the last couple days have seen a huge drop, well after the initial bump down Henry got due to his injury.

thanx koya for understanding. right after the injury there was a drop in value (which I understand) but he was still in the top tier of RB's. but since then (even though we've gotten positve info about the knee) he's dropped again out of the top tier of RB's. even with the injury he's still been regarded among guys like Westbrook, Rudi, and Addai. But now, for a reason I can't understand, he's being lumped in with McGahee, Portis, Maroney, and Reggie bush. that's a significant difference. not a big deal but I just want to make sure I'm not missing some bit of info that maybe has come out over the last 24-48 hrs.

 

[JetsFan]

I think there's something wrong with the O1 and P1 versions of VDB. Others have noticed:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=335891

Specifically about Henry - I asked David Dodds about a VDB problem in an email and he wrote back using Henry as an example saying he initially changed his numbers down quite a bit, but then added back a bunch of his yards and TDs. This is not reflected in the VBD app.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

 

[vichawkfan]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

hahaha - seriously? Shanny is now going to put Henry in a RBBC? Shocking.

 

[maddawg2020]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

 

[maddawg2020]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

 

[BigRed]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

Yeah sure couldn't count on Portis getting his carries When Shanahan has a RB worth getting most of the carries, they get them. If Henry's health holds up, he is the go-to guy in DEN.

 

[twistd]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

Yeah sure couldn't count on Portis getting his carries When Shanahan has a RB worth getting most of the carries, they get them. If Henry's health holds up, he is the go-to guy in DEN.

I agree completely. I am targeting Henry. His stock was rising, and I was thinking I couldn't get him at 12 in a 12 team league. Now maybe I still can. There are questions about a lot of the backs at that point, but I love his potentail.

 

[BigRed]

Due to being in PRR and mild concern about the injury I have dropped him a little - would still love him as RB2 tho.

 

[David Dodds]

I was a little harsh in version O of the VBD. Henry has some of the stats back in version P (available to download now).

David

 

[2stix]

easy with the harshings, your giving people heart palpatations over here.

 

[Gr00vus]

I was a little harsh in version O of the VBD. Henry has some of the stats back in version P (available to download now).David

Not so fast! Can't you leave him down there until after my drafts this weekend? There's a fiver in it for ya if you do.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

 

[BusMan]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

While you're laughing you'll also more than likely be losing.

 

[flufhed]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

Mike Anderson down?

 

[shredhead]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.

1999 Davis got injured. Not too many teams have good bets when their star goes down. You think the Cincy running game will be as consistant if Rudi goes down? Denver did have viable options in 2 of the 6 years you are talking about. Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson down? I know they weren't top notch like Davis and Portis, but they were definately NOT RBBC guys those years. Last year with Bell/ Bell and the year before with Anderson/Bell and the year Davis got hurt are only 3 years in the last 10 that Denver had a RBBC. I think there might have been one other, but I can't come up with it right now. (at work and don't want to look it up)

 

[FightingWombat]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

Yeah sure couldn't count on Portis getting his carries When Shanahan has a RB worth getting most of the carries, they get them. If Henry's health holds up, he is the go-to guy in DEN.

Someone who gets it. Outstanding. Skelletor only goes RBBC when he has to (injury or lack of stud).

 

[thehornet]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

but this has nothing to do with Shanny. Henry sprained a ligament in his knee....

 

[gianmarco]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.

I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

Can you explain the bolded part? Aside from breaking his leg 4 yrs ago, what makes him an injury waiting to happen?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.

I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

Can you explain the bolded part? Aside from breaking his leg 4 yrs ago, what makes him an injury waiting to happen?

The last 3 years he's been on the field 9, 10, and 14 games. I need my #1 pick to play if at all possible. Now he's already got a nifty little knee thing going this year.

 

[gianmarco]

I think people are really starting to understand the Shanahan factor. Denver hasn't been a safe or easy bet since Davis.

that's a bit exaggerated on ur part, isn't it? how about portis? I think he was a pretty safe bet loved by many fantasy owners during his time there. also, i doubt the broncos spent big bucks on Henry just to let him "surrender" to the "shanahan" factor. that's crazy. they have produced a great running stats for a decade and Henry is clearly in line to be the next denver RB to put up stats. he's probably the safest bet to wear a bronco uni since davis now that I think about it. my question isn't that henry will be the main guy putting up numbers in denver but how he'll do compared to do other RB's in the NFL... I can't figure out why even after we knew about the injury he was still being labled a solid #1 fantasy RB but now it seems like he's being lumped in with a few guys I'd call #2 RB's?

That was a very short tenure. Course he loved him so much he let him go.

hey scooby, u missed my point. try reading the thread for what it actually says and not for what you want to interpret. i never said that shanny loved him. I said fantasy owners loved him. and who cares if the tenure was short. for that short period of time, portis was a safe bet. ur point was there hadn't been a safe bet since davis but portis was a safe bet, especially being that in both seasons he produced great numbers he was a great draft day value because of his ADP in each year.

Terell Davis's last big year was 1998. You cite 2 years that Portis was a good bet. That leaves 6 years of people reaching on Denver running backs and the rushing situation there being in chaos.They pick up Travis Henry who has been Mr. Butterfingers, and an injury waiting to happen. Shanny tolerates neither. Waiting on the bench is another RBBC of epic proportions.

I have no issue with taking Henry on his merit, that's fine. The fact that people are gushing over the guy because it is Denver is what I find laughable.

Can you explain the bolded part? Aside from breaking his leg 4 yrs ago, what makes him an injury waiting to happen?

The last 3 years he's been on the field 9, 10, and 14 games. I need my #1 pick to play if at all possible. Now he's already got a nifty little knee thing going this year.

You need to go find out why he was on the field for 9, 10, and 14 games. It wasn't because of injury. It was part being a backup and part 4 game drug suspension, NOT injury. So no, he's not an injury waiting to happen.