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Non Emotional Andy Reid Decision (1 Viewer)

Would You Fire Andy Reid At End Of Year?

  • Absolutely Fire Him

    Votes: 77 26.9%
  • Probabaly Fire Him

    Votes: 52 18.2%
  • On The Fence

    Votes: 21 7.3%
  • Probably Not Fire HIm

    Votes: 71 24.8%
  • Definitely Not Fire Him

    Votes: 65 22.7%

  • Total voters
    286

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Let's say things stay pretty much the same for the Eagles. They win 1 or 2 more games but nothing special. No real turn around from where they are right now.

Do you let him go after the season is over?

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Probably not fire him. He's not the one short-arming balls. And it really isn't his fault that Vick has regressed. He made a bad decision hiring Castillo. He needs to can him and bring in a real DC, ala Capers or Ryan. Heck, Rex Ryan might be available this offseason.

 
He's been too good a coach for a long time to fire him now. You have to ask who are you going to get that's an upgrade. Also, this whole "dream team" thing that was thrown out there was a recipe for disappointment, especially coming off a shortened off-season program. That's too many different moving parts needing to work together in synch to expect the 2011 Eagles to be a "plug and play" team.

On the flip side, the season is all on Reid's poor decisions. It's his mess, and he has to sleep in it. He never addressed that poor O-line, and the linebackers are putrid. It doesn't matter if you have blue chip talent in the backfield if teams are running all over you in the pits. Reid had an ill conceived plan for this season, and he should at the very least be censured. He needs a dominant GM brought in and stick to the coaching to get back on top. The Eagles are loaded with talent, and they just need to reload and purge. AR is a good coach, and firing him only worsens the situation.

 
Without a doubt. I've been a staunch supporter of Reid in the past but his time is over in Philly. That being said, he'll probably be in the unemployment line about 6 seconds before he's hired elsewhere.

 
I think it would be best for Reid and the Eagles to part ways and both get a fresh start.

I remember when Chuck Daley left the Pistons, many thought he should have stayed longer but he said something like "My time is done here, after years of listening to my message the players do not hear me anymore" I think that is the case in Philly now.

 
He's been too good a coach for a long time to fire him now. You have to ask who are you going to get that's an upgrade. Also, this whole "dream team" thing that was thrown out there was a recipe for disappointment, especially coming off a shortened off-season program. That's too many different moving parts needing to work together in synch to expect the 2011 Eagles to be a "plug and play" team.

On the flip side, the season is all on Reid's poor decisions. It's his mess, and he has to sleep in it. He never addressed that poor O-line, and the linebackers are putrid. It doesn't matter if you have blue chip talent in the backfield if teams are running all over you in the pits. Reid had an ill conceived plan for this season, and he should at the very least be censured. He needs a dominant GM brought in and stick to the coaching to get back on top. The Eagles are loaded with talent, and they just need to reload and purge. AR is a good coach, and firing him only worsens the situation.
Every coach has a shelf life. Andy had tremendous success between 2000 & 2004. Look at the Eagles record since. 3 playoff wins, none since '08. They have now declined 3 straight years. Every aspect of the on-field product is controlled by Reid, from the coaches to the player personnel to the game planning. Pick one area of this organization and tell me what looks like its being handled correctly.Andy did wonderful things for the Eagles and as a fan I appreciate it. But 1 win in the last 9 home games (NFL worst) is inexcusable. Andy can go to a team like Miami or Jacksonville and improve them in a year or 2. But he's not the same coach here in Philly that he was 5 or 6 years ago. Oh, and now they have coaches arguing with each other on the sidelines.

 
I think it would be best for Reid and the Eagles to part ways and both get a fresh start.
That's my take. Reid has been a good coach for some time, but there comes a time in every coach's tenure that a mutual parting of the ways is probably necessary to get both the team back on track and the coach to re-charge his batteries.Agree that he won't be unemployed for very long at all.
 
I think it would be best for Reid and the Eagles to part ways and both get a fresh start.

I remember when Chuck Daley left the Pistons, many thought he should have stayed longer but he said something like "My time is done here, after years of listening to my message the players do not hear me anymore" I think that is the case in Philly now.
I think Rex Ryan is running into this same scenario.
 
I can see why fans might want Reid fired because they are tired of watching him make the same mistakes. Still seems kind of short-sighted to me. He coached Vick from cast-off to MVP numbers and won the division last year, right?

If the goal is to win a SB while Vick is alive, I don't know who is going to have a better chance than Reid to lead them there, even if the chances don't look so good as it is.

 
Definitely Not Fire Him.

I don't need to write a paragraph or more. There's no reason to fire him.

 
I think it would be best for Reid and the Eagles to part ways and both get a fresh start.

I remember when Chuck Daley left the Pistons, many thought he should have stayed longer but he said something like "My time is done here, after years of listening to my message the players do not hear me anymore" I think that is the case in Philly now.
I think Rex Ryan is running into this same scenario.
I was listening to a Rex Ryan interview on the radio, where he openly described how he was using Sanchez criticism as a motivational tool, and that he most certainly wouldn't be benching Sanchez. While that's no great secret, that level of candor essentially breaks the fourth wall, and pours lady feet onto the floor of my car. Keep it to yourself, Rex.
 
Honest opinion? No. He's the best thing on that team.

I have watched every Eagle game this year expecting huge offense and every week I am shocked by the stupid play of everyone on the team. It's not just DJax. Stupid play and dumb errors have killed this team. Sure their lines sucked early in the year and they have been inconsistent, but the mind-numbing aspect to this season is that they have shot them selves in the oot time and time again. Remeber Ronnie Brown trying to lateral the ball at the 1 yard line? I recall missed fied goals in crucial times. I remeber horrid special teams play. I remember awful awful holding penalties after huge plays. I remeber DJax showboating (this I actually blame Reid a little bit for, but it seems like he has been disciplining him. Some guys just dont learn, and I think DJax is one of them). Time and again, I just am shocked at the lack of football discipline this team lacks and I KNOW Reid knows how to teach this. He has been doing it succesfully for decades.

In the end, I see Reid being the most important thing on this team and I am calling this year a fluke.

 
Absolutely. He's a good coach and has a really bad team. Free him so he can work elsewhere, like Indy and Andrew Luck.

 
absolutely not fire him. He's earned a longer leash than that over his tenure there. He's showed he's a fantastic developer of young talent, and has an outstanding record overall. I'm not gonna let one bum season boot him out the door (especially when I have such good young talent needing to be developed on the roster. The OL is very young, the qb is hurt, the wrs are usually hurt and the desean jackson situation ain't helping. Plus, it's the first year of the DC, who wasn't even a DC before. I'd chalk this up to growing pains.

 
Probably not fire him. He's not the one short-arming balls. And it really isn't his fault that Vick has regressed. He made a bad decision hiring Castillo. He needs to can him and bring in a real DC, ala Capers or Ryan. Heck, Rex Ryan might be available this offseason.
I disagree that it was a long term bad decision (the jury is still out on that) on Castillo. Changing defensive schemes is often not a quick/fix process.
 
He's been too good a coach for a long time to fire him now. You have to ask who are you going to get that's an upgrade. Also, this whole "dream team" thing that was thrown out there was a recipe for disappointment, especially coming off a shortened off-season program. That's too many different moving parts needing to work together in synch to expect the 2011 Eagles to be a "plug and play" team.On the flip side, the season is all on Reid's poor decisions. It's his mess, and he has to sleep in it. He never addressed that poor O-line, and the linebackers are putrid. It doesn't matter if you have blue chip talent in the backfield if teams are running all over you in the pits. Reid had an ill conceived plan for this season, and he should at the very least be censured. He needs a dominant GM brought in and stick to the coaching to get back on top. The Eagles are loaded with talent, and they just need to reload and purge. AR is a good coach, and firing him only worsens the situation.
Never addressed the poor O-Line? They are starting two rookies in the line. And then he lost Justice (the rock of the OL) to injury. :shrug: I bet that OL will be substantially better next year with a year of experience for the young guys and Justice back.
 
Honest opinion? No. He's the best thing on that team.

I have watched every Eagle game this year expecting huge offense and every week I am shocked by the stupid play of everyone on the team. It's not just DJax. Stupid play and dumb errors have killed this team. Sure their lines sucked early in the year and they have been inconsistent, but the mind-numbing aspect to this season is that they have shot them selves in the oot time and time again. Remeber Ronnie Brown trying to lateral the ball at the 1 yard line? I recall missed fied goals in crucial times. I remeber horrid special teams play. I remember awful awful holding penalties after huge plays. I remeber DJax showboating (this I actually blame Reid a little bit for, but it seems like he has been disciplining him. Some guys just dont learn, and I think DJax is one of them). Time and again, I just am shocked at the lack of football discipline this team lacks and I KNOW Reid knows how to teach this. He has been doing it succesfully for decades.

In the end, I see Reid being the most important thing on this team and I am calling this year a fluke.
Who's responsible for team discipline? Teams become undisciplined when they stop listening to the coaches. And who exactly decided to rely on a rookie kicking game in a Super Bowl year? You are correct that the players have to play, but the coaches have to have control and find ways to fix the problems. The problems we're seeing now should not be happening in year 13 of Reid's tenure. Bad decisions to promote Castillo to DC, to give Vick a long-term 100 mil contract to bringing in a mis-matched Nnamdi...all on Reid. What makes anyone think year 14 will be better?ETA: If you think he's the best thing on this team, who do you think built this team?

 
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The difference between being a good team and what they currently are is pretty razor thin. They got embarrassed by NE, but they had several winnable games fall out of their hands or else they'd be close behind Dallas.

A lot of those close losses point directly to Reid though. He's made a lot of bad decisions from Castillo to benching Kurt Coleman for Jarrad Page to betting a lot on Casey Matthews to not resigning Akers.

I think actually a lot of their early problems are fixed. The remaining issues are just Vick (both health and mistakes) and bad dogma on offense.

There's 2 ways this can go. Keep Andy and hire a real DC. Fire Andy and hire Gruden (not Jay) or Cowher or someone from a very short list who can step in and legitimately give the team a better chance to win. Other veteran coaches are not really upgrades (Billick) and the window on Vick is too short to bet it all on a young coach.

Of those 2 options I like the 2012/2013 chances better with Andy. The 2nd option even seems unlikely. There are outs in Vick's contract after 2012 that I think if you want to blow it up, you do it then. You only pay Andy for 1 extra year not 2. You let the new coach start fresh.

 
He's been too good a coach for a long time to fire him now. You have to ask who are you going to get that's an upgrade. Also, this whole "dream team" thing that was thrown out there was a recipe for disappointment, especially coming off a shortened off-season program. That's too many different moving parts needing to work together in synch to expect the 2011 Eagles to be a "plug and play" team.On the flip side, the season is all on Reid's poor decisions. It's his mess, and he has to sleep in it. He never addressed that poor O-line, and the linebackers are putrid. It doesn't matter if you have blue chip talent in the backfield if teams are running all over you in the pits. Reid had an ill conceived plan for this season, and he should at the very least be censured. He needs a dominant GM brought in and stick to the coaching to get back on top. The Eagles are loaded with talent, and they just need to reload and purge. AR is a good coach, and firing him only worsens the situation.
Never addressed the poor O-Line? They are starting two rookies in the line. And then he lost Justice (the rock of the OL) to injury. :shrug: I bet that OL will be substantially better next year with a year of experience for the young guys and Justice back.
Justice is not the rock of the oline. Don't know why u think that or who told you that. Hes very average like the rest of the o line. If anyone is the rock I guess its peters, but he seems to be hurt alot too.
 
Not a philly homer, but a Giants one. That being said, I'd say it's about time to part ways with Reid. They've been extremely inconsistent that past few years and a lot of it comes from Andy. He has been making terrible decisions the past few seasons and it seems like they have been home run swings. Problem is that almost every home run swing has been a strike out looking besides Vick last season. Regardless of the fact that he made the right choice in the end, he pretty much put McNabb in the dog house at random for his last season there. Then he makes them let McNabb go for Kolb to be the "QB of the Future" then they flip back and forth between Vick and Kolb until settling on Vick. Now they are seeing they clearly paid Vick way to much money way to soon. Last season they made the playoffs completely based on the luck of the Giants punting to Jackson and Jackson returning the kick for the win. Andy didn't "coach" them into the playoffs, he pretty much fell face forward into the playoffs. Now this season with the movement of Castillo to DC was another terrible move made by Andy and has clearly effected the team.

Every bad decision is Andy's fault, the failed discipline is always the fault of the coaching staff. Fact is that at a point a coach gets stagnant and needs to move. It's probably best to cut ties with Reid now while guys like Cowher and Gruden are still out there before next season when it's possibly too late and Reid still does nothing of value.

 
They should fire him so the Red Skins can fire Shanny and then hire Andy. That way he can be a thorn in the side of the thankless Eagles fans for the next several years.

 
Granted people outside the area may just glance at this and think eagles fans are nuts. You can do that because you don't follow this team. Now onto my thoughts.

I been voicing my opinion on the guy for the past 3 seasons here. He has got to go. His faults are showing through the clouds big time. The guy gets praises as one of the top coaches in the game but if you honestly look at it, he isn't. Vastly overrated. Few years ago I said the eagles would never win a super bowl with him as a coach because of his stubborn attitude an refusal to adjust to the game itself. Not just in game adjustments but over the years. From piss poor time management, to some horrendous game plans ( yes I am looking at you mr pass run ration of 70% ), to drafting that makes you look back and go W T F.***

Outside of the 15-20 scripted plays they run in the 1st half, after that things go down hill. Over the years they relied on McNabb, Westbrook & a Jim Johnson ran defense to mask the problems. Even his entire philiosophy makes you scratch your head over the years. You had a QB that could run with the best of them, inaccurate in the short to medium passing game but you try to convert him into a pocket QB instead of adjusting the offense to his strengths.... ( square peg round hole ). Had these bruising big run blocking oline guys for years but proceeded to pass the ball +65% of the time. Well its been what? 13 years...different players, same results.

Just have to look at the whole Juan Castillo thing.

ps - He gets hailed as this guy that can develop QBs...who has he actually developed that turned into a good QB in this league? McNabb was highly touted coming out of college, this chance of him being successfull was pretty high and Reid still tried to force him to be what he wasn't. Detmer? Feeley? Kolb even? I don't see it,

*** Sure hindsight is 20/20 with drafting but when you actually do look at the drafts, knew what the needs were of the team, followed the scouting reports, seen who was proijected where, etc...then actually see what Reid did with some picks. Well it really makes you hold your hands out in front of you and spit out "WTF is this ####"

Enough is enough. Its time to go. Been going downhill since 05-06 and nothing has changed with him as a head coach at all. He won't get fired though, Jeff Lurie doesn't have the manhood to do that. Juan Castillo will be this years scapegoat ( rightfully so though )just as McDermott was last years goat.

 
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They couldn't expect him to take that team of players make all them mesh and learn the program in that short amount of time. He is an absolute great coach in no need deserving top get fired. Although as a cowboys fan I hope they do fire him so it makes philly even worse

 
simple question

would you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?

andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.

 
Since I have been a Jet fan I lived through - Joe Walton, Bruce Coslet, Pete Carrol, Kotite, Al Groh, Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini

It can get a LOT worse Eagles fans!

 
They should fire him so the Red Skins can fire Shanny and then hire Andy. That way he can be a thorn in the side of the thankless Eagles fans for the next several years.
"Thankless" Eagles fans have watched the team regress now for 3 straight years. The Eagles have won 3 playoff games in 7 seasons. And 2 of those wins came in the same post-season ('08) when it took a double miracle in week 17 for them to even make the playoffs. 13 years into his tenure the goal is not to win the division or be competitive. The goal is to improve and advance deeper into the post-season. They are not. Winning the division is what the Lions are striving to do. Same with teams like the Redskins, Bills, Dolphins, etc. But in years 11, 12, 13 the goal is set higher. As well it should. Andy had great success in the early 2000's when he had a different front office, Jim Johnson as his DC, and few stud defensive holdovers from the Rhoads years.Yes, Andy would do great things in DC as well as Jax, Miami, SD...but he has run his course in Philly. Players are not responding and are undisciplined; coaches are fighting on the sidelines. Those are things that happen to losing teams.Weren't Redskins fans giddy with excitement how the "thankless" Eagles 'gave' them McNabb? Thanks for the draft picks.
 
simple questionwould you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Nobody cares about your FF team.He keeps his job. Keeping a system in place for a long period of time has better results than fire/hire then get new players to fit a scheme.
 
They should fire him so the Red Skins can fire Shanny and then hire Andy. That way he can be a thorn in the side of the thankless Eagles fans for the next several years.
"Thankless" Eagles fans have watched the team regress now for 3 straight years. The Eagles have won 3 playoff games in 7 seasons. And 2 of those wins came in the same post-season ('08) when it took a double miracle in week 17 for them to even make the playoffs. 13 years into his tenure the goal is not to win the division or be competitive. The goal is to improve and advance deeper into the post-season. They are not. Winning the division is what the Lions are striving to do. Same with teams like the Redskins, Bills, Dolphins, etc. But in years 11, 12, 13 the goal is set higher. As well it should. Andy had great success in the early 2000's when he had a different front office, Jim Johnson as his DC, and few stud defensive holdovers from the Rhoads years.Yes, Andy would do great things in DC as well as Jax, Miami, SD...but he has run his course in Philly. Players are not responding and are undisciplined; coaches are fighting on the sidelines. Those are things that happen to losing teams.Weren't Redskins fans giddy with excitement how the "thankless" Eagles 'gave' them McNabb? Thanks for the draft picks.
For the record I am not an Red Skins fan I pull for the Saints and really could care less about the NFC East except I want Dallas to do bad every year so I dont have to listen to their fans down here. thats about it. I just think Andy is a better coach than anyone you are going to find to replace him. Give me one name of who is out there who would take the Eagles job that could do better? Hint: Bill Cower, John Gruden and Jeff Fischer are not interested.
 
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They need a front office guy. Andy has too much power, imo. I think he obviously deserves input into personnel but he needs a real Gm to keep him "honest" and help.

I personally think Andy is a good coach, good planner, good scheme, good developer of talent.

He is awful at play calling, game management and game day decisions/adjustments. Unfortunately, these weaknesses are where the games matter most and I think that's what hurts him as a coach. All coaches have down years, Cowher I think went 7-9 the year before they won the SuperBowl.

 
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simple questionwould you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Nobody cares about your FF team.He keeps his job. Keeping a system in place for a long period of time has better results than fire/hire then get new players to fit a scheme.
No one's talking about FF. How about giving your best weapon (and one of the best RBs in the game) more than 4 carries in the 1st half when you're winning? Maybe try to keep the ball out of Brady's hands for a bit and let one of the best RBs try to run a little? 1st and goal from the 5 and your best player doesn't touch the ball? Look at what the Pats did, they were down by 10 early but continued to give BJGE the ball and ran it down the Eagles throat. Andy would have never done that.The Eagles came in with a game plan and had some success. The Pats made some adjustments and the Eagles had no answer. If their game plan works, they are fine. But don't ask them to make in-game adjustments. They can't or won't.
 
Absolutely he needs to be fired. From making his OL coach into his DC, to paying the best cover corner (maybe 2nd-best) big money and then using him in ways that don't feature his strengths (zones, NOT shadowing the opponents #1 WR), to failing to make in-game adjustments, to refusing to change his offense to suit his team/flow of a game, he needs to be replaced.

 
They should fire him so the Red Skins can fire Shanny and then hire Andy. That way he can be a thorn in the side of the thankless Eagles fans for the next several years.
"Thankless" Eagles fans have watched the team regress now for 3 straight years. The Eagles have won 3 playoff games in 7 seasons. And 2 of those wins came in the same post-season ('08) when it took a double miracle in week 17 for them to even make the playoffs. 13 years into his tenure the goal is not to win the division or be competitive. The goal is to improve and advance deeper into the post-season. They are not. Winning the division is what the Lions are striving to do. Same with teams like the Redskins, Bills, Dolphins, etc. But in years 11, 12, 13 the goal is set higher. As well it should. Andy had great success in the early 2000's when he had a different front office, Jim Johnson as his DC, and few stud defensive holdovers from the Rhoads years.Yes, Andy would do great things in DC as well as Jax, Miami, SD...but he has run his course in Philly. Players are not responding and are undisciplined; coaches are fighting on the sidelines. Those are things that happen to losing teams.Weren't Redskins fans giddy with excitement how the "thankless" Eagles 'gave' them McNabb? Thanks for the draft picks.
For the record I am not an Red Skins fan I pull for the Saints and really could care less about the NFC East except I want Dallas to do bad every year so I dont have to listen to their fans down here. thats about it. I just think Andy is a better coach than anyone you are going to find to replace him. Give me one name of who is out there who would take the Eagles job that could do better? Hint: Bill Cower, John Gruden and Jeff Fischer are not interested.
So there will never be another great coach? Andy's the last of the line? Who was Andy when they hired him? Just because we don't know who will be next or if they will better does not mean the Eagles are stuck with Reid for life. And its not like we're being impatient. Not many other coaches have lasted 13+ years without winning anything. Giants fans get fed up with Coughlin, and he's won a SB.For the record, I'm not in favor of bringing in Cower or Gruden or Fisher. One name that intrigues me though it Brian Billick.
 
simple questionwould you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Be honest....You lost your FF game this weekend and Mccoy only got you 14pts??Come on....i said be honest.I have no idea how you can say Reid does not give the ball to the best player.McCoy leads the league in rushing yards and TD's and is in the top 5 in total touches per game.Do you mean kickoff and punt returns?Field goals? :confused:
 
I'd probably keep him but he's doing a poor job this year. He made poor choices with the coaching staff during the off season and this year the teams seems unprepared.

I'd chalk it up to a bad season and give him another year to clean up the mess. A new defensive coordinator and improved clubhouse leadership would got a long way on this team.

 
1 losing season in the prior 11 years. Made the playoffs 9 out of the last 11. Won their division as recently as last year. A lot of organizations and fans would kill for that. Maybe if the Eagles crater again next year you consider it, but it's beyond moronic to think about it after only 1 down season.

 
'comfortably numb said:
'Phenix said:
simple question

would you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?

andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Be honest....You lost your FF game this weekend and Mccoy only got you 14pts??

Come on....i said be honest.

I have no idea how you can say Reid does not give the ball to the best player.

McCoy leads the league in rushing yards and TD's and is in the top 5 in total touches per game.

Do you mean kickoff and punt returns?

Field goals?

:confused:
Be honest, you don't watch the Eagles every week do you? I said be honest...Don't just look at his stats, look at how often he runs the ball. When they lost to the Cardinals (I think it was Ari) they went 13 game minutes without McCoy touching the ball, when they were winning and trying to close out the game.

 
1 losing season in the prior 11 years. Made the playoffs 9 out of the last 11. Won their division as recently as last year. A lot of organizations and fans would kill for that. Maybe if the Eagles crater again next year you consider it, but it's beyond moronic to think about it after only 1 down season.
Its not 1 season, its 3 straight years of regression. Its 3 years of no playoff wins. Its 2 home wins in a calendar year (1 in last 9 for an NFL worst). People outside of Philly have to look beyond the numbers and see the failed expectations. It not about division wins after 13 years.
 
Bill Cowher, from 1998-2003 had a losing record three times and missed the playoffs four out of six years. In 2003 he was 6-10. Should the Steelers have fired him?

 
'Amused to Death said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'Phenix said:
simple questionwould you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Nobody cares about your FF team.He keeps his job. Keeping a system in place for a long period of time has better results than fire/hire then get new players to fit a scheme.
No one's talking about FF. How about giving your best weapon (and one of the best RBs in the game) more than 4 carries in the 1st half when you're winning? Maybe try to keep the ball out of Brady's hands for a bit and let one of the best RBs try to run a little? 1st and goal from the 5 and your best player doesn't touch the ball? Look at what the Pats did, they were down by 10 early but continued to give BJGE the ball and ran it down the Eagles throat. Andy would have never done that.The Eagles came in with a game plan and had some success. The Pats made some adjustments and the Eagles had no answer. If their game plan works, they are fine. But don't ask them to make in-game adjustments. They can't or won't.
I didn't watch the game but this is bigger than one game. Lesean McCoy touches:2010=2852011=236 + last 5 games, per averages should get to 343. If he goes into the high 300's or even 400's I would be worried.Do you really want to run your best player into the ground at the tender age of 23? He isn't built for a huge work load.
 
'Amused to Death said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'Phenix said:
simple questionwould you want a coach who does not give the ball to your best player?andy reid must go, he has not learned and has too much pride to know just give it to mccoy.
Nobody cares about your FF team.He keeps his job. Keeping a system in place for a long period of time has better results than fire/hire then get new players to fit a scheme.
No one's talking about FF. How about giving your best weapon (and one of the best RBs in the game) more than 4 carries in the 1st half when you're winning? Maybe try to keep the ball out of Brady's hands for a bit and let one of the best RBs try to run a little? 1st and goal from the 5 and your best player doesn't touch the ball? Look at what the Pats did, they were down by 10 early but continued to give BJGE the ball and ran it down the Eagles throat. Andy would have never done that.The Eagles came in with a game plan and had some success. The Pats made some adjustments and the Eagles had no answer. If their game plan works, they are fine. But don't ask them to make in-game adjustments. They can't or won't.
I didn't watch the game but this is bigger than one game. Lesean McCoy touches:2010=2852011=236 + last 5 games, per averages should get to 343. If he goes into the high 300's or even 400's I would be worried.Do you really want to run your best player into the ground at the tender age of 23? He isn't built for a huge work load.
Then maybe they should work in some other RBs. Maybe some of his receptions should be carries. But you don't go up by 10 on the Pats and continue to throw the ball. Try to control the game a little. ya know, adjust to the game situation. Andy can't do that or won't.
 
Bill Cowher, from 1998-2003 had a losing record three times and missed the playoffs four out of six years. In 2003 he was 6-10. Should the Steelers have fired him?
This is my original point. The steelers have a leg up on most teams year after year because they keep the same coach/system in place. This allows players to improve because they know what to do and can just play without too much thinking. They just need to find the right players to improve or replace year after year.Take a Detroit/Oakland/Washington/etc who replace their coaches all the time. New Coaches/new schemes/new players come and go. Overall record isn't that good.
 
Bill Cowher, from 1998-2003 had a losing record three times and missed the playoffs four out of six years. In 2003 he was 6-10. Should the Steelers have fired him?
He's the exception. Its happened once in the history of the NFL. Are you suggesting that every HC should get 14 years? Other than Cower, I think Andy's the longest tenured coach without winning a championship in the NFL.
 

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