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Notable NFL Cuts - Spring 2015 (1 Viewer)

Lions released RB Reggie Bush.
Bush is coming off an injury-filled 2014 and struggled when healthy, playing in 11 games and averaging 3.9 YPC.
The Lions will use the $1.7 million they save by cutting him towards re-signing Ndamukong Suh.
29-year-old Bush joins an already deep running back market and will likely have to settle for a role-player salary to stay in the league.
Theo Riddick is now locked in as Detroit's passing-down back behind Joique Bell.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Feb 25 - 5:19 PM

 
Packers released ILB A.J. Hawk.
A no-brainer move by Green Bay, Hawk's release saves $3.5 million against the cap.
Hawk graded out as a bottom-ten inside linebacker by PFF last year and is one month removed from ankle surgery.
He'll likely have to settle for one-year deals in free agency. The Packers need cap room to sign in-house free agents Randall Cobb,
Bryan Bulaga, and Davon House. Kansas City would be a sensible landing spot for Hawk.
The Chiefs are incredibly thin at inside linebacker and GM John Dorsey was in Green Bay's front office when Hawk was drafted.

Feb 25 - 4:41 PM

 
Not cuts but potential players who could be cut by Chris Wesseling

On the bubble: 25 AFC players who could be cut

Strong candidates for release1. Percy Harvin, New York Jets wide receiver: The Jets appear to be split into two camps. There are those who believe $10.5 million and the loss of a fourth-round draft pick is too steep a price to pay for a wide receiver without consistent game film since October of 2012. The other view is that a talent-starved team with plenty of cap space has no business cutting receivers of Harvin's playmaking ability.

2. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver: The Chiefs have already cut Donnie Averyand A.J. Jenkins. Due a nonguaranteed $10.75 million after failing to find the end zone in 2014, Bowe should be next on the chopping block. Is that decision on hold until Andy Reid makes a run at a reunion with free agent Jeremy Maclin?

3, 4 and 5. Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline and Brandon Gibson,Miami Dolphins wide receiver:Wallace's Miami future is up in the air after his self-benching in the season finale. He's not going to accept a paycut from the $9.85 million he's currently owed. One of the least effective per-play receivers in the NFL last season, Gibson simply isn't worth the $3.225 million he's due. Hartline won't collect his $5.9 million salary, but he could be back on a restructured deal.

6. Trent Richardson, Indianapolis Colts running back: The Colts set up Richardson's release with a two-game suspension in January, thereby removing the guarantees from the slothful tailback's $3.184 million salary.

7, 8 and 9. Matt Schaub, Maurice Jones-Drew and LaMarr Woodley, Oakland Raiders: Three of the worst signings of 2014. Broken beyond repair by too many hits over the past decade, Schaub was doomed from the start in Oakland. Jones-Drew somehow managed to make Trent Richardsonlook fast last season, averaging a creeping 2.2 yards on 43 carries. Woodley totaled more missed games than tackles last year.

10 and 11. Dannell Ellerbe and Cortland Finnegan, Miami Dolphins: The Dolphins can save more than $8 million by cutting Ellerbe, who missed 15 games following hip surgery last season. Leading tackler Jelani Jenkins turned out to be an upgrade as his replacement. Finnegan, 31, is a declining player due a nonguaranteed $5.48 million.

12 and 13. Michael Griffin andShonn Greene, Tennessee Titans:Griffin has been one of the most overpaid safeties in the league since signing a five-year, $35 million contract in 2012. The Titans can save nearly $5 million against the cap by cutting the 30-year-old coming off surgery to repair a torn labrum. Greene hasn't topped 400 yards in either of his two seasons since landing a head-scratching three-year, $10 million deal from the Titans.

14. Phil Taylor, Cleveland Browns defensive tackle: Taylor is a first-round selection who has been paid as such, but he's struggled to stay on the field. Both he and Ahtyba Rubin were paired as the anchors of Cleveland's interior defensive line, but their lack of effective time together makes the investment a questionable decision. The Browns have a lot of cap space, but Taylor is due to make $5.47 million in 2015, his final season under contract in Cleveland. That's a lot for a guy who has registered 20 tackles in his last 20 games.

Potential surprise cuts1. Darrelle Revis, New England Patriots cornerback: Revis' contract was meant to be a one-year, $12 million rental, but the Patriots hold a $20 million option that would count a prohibitive $25 million against the cap. The Pats will try to reach an agreement with Revis on an extension, per NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport, but there's no urgency until April, when a $12 million roster bonus is due.

2. Haloti Ngata, Baltimore Ravens defensive tackle: Much like Terrell Suggs last year, Ngata's cap number ($16 million) is untenable. The Ravens fully expect their run-stuffer back on a reworked deal, but that's easier said than done.

3. Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh Steelers safety: Team president Art Rooney II wants Polamalu to retire with the Steelers, which suggests a compromise if the eight-time Pro Bowler wants to play another season. Too often a liability in coverage, Polamalu isn't close to a $6 million player.

4. Tamba Hali, Kansas City Chiefspass rusher: The Chiefs can save $9 million by cutting Hali, but the aging edge rusher had made it clear he'sopen to a paycut. Can the sides find common ground on a new contract with 2014 first-round pickDee Ford waiting in the wings?

5. Chase Daniel, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback: Daniel is a high-end clipboard holder, but $4.8 million is a steep cap number. The Chiefs have drafted Aaron Murray and signed Terrelle Pryor as alternatives behind Alex Smith.

6. Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots defensive tackle: We wouldn't expect the Pats to release one of owner Robert Kraft's personal favorites, but the move would save over $8 million in cap room. That could be a consideration with Revis and free agent safety Devin McCourty in need for big-money contracts.

7. Danny Amendola, New England Patriots wide receiver: Amendola's strong playoff run might have saved his roster spot, even with a $5.7 million cap hit.

8. Andy Levitre, Tennessee Titans guard: Two years into a six-year, $46.8 million contract, Levitre has been an injury-prone mediocrity in Nashville. After watching him allow six sacks a season ago, the Titans could opt to cut bait.

9. Lardarius Webb, Baltimore Ravens cornerback: Although Webb's $8 million salary counts $12 million against the cap, he might be saved because his release would create $10 million in dead money. Battling through injuries, Webb was a liability for much of the 2014 season.

10. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Houston Texans quarterback: Ryan Mallett is clearly Houston's first choice to start, which leaves Fitzpatrick as a well-compensated insurance policy.

Other potential cuts
Baltimore Ravens: WR Jacoby Jones (cut Wednesday). DE Chris Canty

Buffalo Bills: TE Scott Chandler, OG Chris Williams

Pittsburgh Steelers: DE Brett Keisel, WR Lance Moore

Indianapolis Colts: OG Donald Thomas

Jacksonville Jaguars: TE Marcedes Lewis, LB Paul Posluszny, DE Chris Clemons, RB Toby Gerhart

Tennessee Titans: TE Craig Stevens, LB Kamerion Wimbley

Kansas City Chiefs: LB Joe Mays, DE Mike DeVito

On the bubble: 28 NFC players who could be cut

Strong candidates for release
1, 2, 3 and 4. Trent Cole, DeMeco Ryans, Cary Williams and Todd Herremans, Philadelphia Eagles: The Eagles can save $8.425 million by releasing Cole. The 32-year-old is still effective, but he shouldn't stand in the way of retaining a younger pass rusher such as Brandon Graham. Ryans, 30, is an important defensive leader, but he's coming off a twice-torn Achilles' tendon. Is that package worth $6.8 million? One-half of a starting cornerback unit that was burned routinely throughout the 2014 season, Williams is scheduled to collect $6.5 million this year. He's not worth half of that. Herremans, 32, is due $4 million while coming off a torn triceps. This roster needs an infusion of young legs.

5, 6 and 7. Greg Jennings, Chad Greenway and Matt Cassel, Minnesota Vikings: Offensive coordinator Norv Turner recently hyped Charles Johnson as "far and away" the best receiver on the roster, which bodes poorly for Jennings, due $8.9 million this year. Well past his Pro Bowl prime, Greenway is no longer worthy of $8.8 million in salary and bonuses. Will the Vikings pay Cassel's $500,000 roster bonus and $4.15 million salary now that Teddy Bridgewater is firmly entrenched as the starter?

8, 9 and 10. Marques Colston, Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs, New Orleans Saints: The Saints have the worst salary-cap situation in the league, which will lead to tough decisions on the declining veterans that contributed to a disappointing 2014 season. Evans made the Pro Bowl last season purely on reputation. His $11 million cap number will have to be lowered significantly, as will the $9.7 million and $9.6 million figures of Colston and Grubbs, respectively.

11 and 12. Ahmad Brooks and Steve Johnson, San Francisco 49ers: With Aaron Lynch coming like a freight train last October, the 49ers reportedly dangled Brooks in trade talks. With a $1.2 million roster bonus due, he's a goner. Johnson's $5.5 million salary is out of line for a receiver who couldn't get regular snaps last season.

13: Jake Long, St. Louis Rams tackle: Coming off his second ACL surgery in the last two years, Long is not going to see the $10.5 million that is scheduled to come his way this season. The former No. 1 overall draft pick's body has simply failed him.

14: Dashon Goldson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety: The Bucs temporarily benched Goldson last November, less than two years into a five-year, $41.25 million contract. A liability in coverage at age 30, the hard-hitting safety is no longer worthy of a $7.5 million salary.

15: Steven Jackson, Atlanta Falcons running back: Jackson, 31, has averaged just 3.6 yards per carry in two seasons as an injury-prone Falcons starter. The new regime is high on second-year back Devonta Freeman and reportedly has interest in signing Justin Forsett. Both are better fits for Kyle Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme.

Potential surprise cuts1 and 2. Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall, Chicago Bears: Five weeks into the job, coach John Fox and general manager Ryan Pace have yet to commit to Cutler as the Bears' quarterback. While a trade seems more likely than an outright release, nothing would surprise us at this point. Marshall's $7.5 million salary becomes fully guaranteed if he's on the roster by the third day of the league year. He turns 31 next month and is coming off a disappointing season. That's not as much of an issue as behavior that reportedly rankled teammates and coaches last year.

3. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings running back: Peterson believes he was hung out to dryby some members of the Vikings organization -- as well as the general sentiment in Minnesota -- last season. Is the front office going to shell out $15.4 million against the cap for a scorned player whowants to sever ties?

4 and 5. Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman, San Francisco 49ers: This would qualify as a stunner. General manager Trent Baalke has stated the salaries for his two All-Pro linebackers are "not as daunting as you might think." Willis is nearing the decline phase, though, while Bowman's knee remains a question mark after missing the entire 2014 season. How will the 49ers create playing time for Chris Borland, who turned enough heads in the second half of the season to compete for Defensive Rookie of the Year honors?

6 and 7. Pierre Garcon and Barry Cofield, Washington Redskins: Garcon was turned into an expensive blocker in Jay Gruden's scheme after excelling as the focal point in Kyle Shanahan's offense the year before. We don't expect him to be cut, but $9.7 million is steep cap number for a second fiddle. Cofield is scheduled for $4.55 million after a disappointing, injury-ravaged season.

8 and 9. Harry Douglas and Justin Blalock, Atlanta Falcons: Douglas is a decent third receiver, but $3.5 million is a lot to pay for a player with eight touchdowns in six seasons -- especially with so many holes elsewhere on the roster. Blalock has been a lone bright spot on the offensive line. Is he viewed as a fit for Kyle Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme?

10. Michael Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive end: It seems crazy to ditch Johnson one year into a five-year, $43.75 million pact, but that hasn't stifled speculation. Johnson has totaled just 7.5 sacks over the last two years after recording 11.5 in a breakout 2012 season. The Bucs owe him an extra $7 million in guarantees if he's still on the roster by the third day of the league year.

11. Darnell Dockett, Arizona Cardinals defensive end: Team president Michael Bidwill wants to restructure Dockett's contract and have the long-time Cardinal retire with the organization. Dockett, 34 in May, is due $6.8 million while returning from a torn ACL.

12. Brandon Mebane, Seattle Seahawks defensive tackle: Mebane is due $5.5 million coming off hamstring surgery. Although he stuffed the run well in 2013, the Seahawks played their best defense of the 2014 season with Mebane on injured reserve.

13. Junior Galette, New Orleans Saints outside linebacker: Galette has a fully guaranteed $12.5 million roster bonus due next month, but coach Sean Payton is reportedly looking to dump his top pass rusher on the heels of a January arrest for domestic violence. The contract is working in Galette's favor even if the organization is livid over his arrest.

Other potential cuts
Arizona Cardinals: LB Matt Shaughnessy, TE John Carlson

Dallas Cowboys: OG Mackenzy Bernadeau

Detroit Lions: LB Stephen Tulloch

Minnesota Vikings: OG Charlie Johnson

New Orleans Saints: LB David Hawthorne

New York Giants: LB Jon Beason

Seattle Seahawks: TE Zach Miller

St. Louis Rams: DE Kendall Langford, C Scott Wells

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: P Michael Koenen

Washington Redskins: OG Chris Chester, DE Stephen Bowen, CB Tracy Porter
 
Gallette is unlikely. I believe the charges against him were for pushing or shoving a woman to the ground. Didn't sound violent but the woman pressed charges. Later the charges were dropped. It's a good message to him, though, and players like him.

 
While I like many of his articles, this isn't one of them.

Titans need Griffin like all Steeler Ds needed a top Safety. I highly doubt Lebeau comes to town and says get rid of your top safety. A long while back Bernard Pollard asked for his release. I haven't seen him get that, nor him ask for it again. Griffin is still a top player, he's just got swiss cheese in front of him.

Stevens isn't going anywhere unless he's got injury recovery issues. After last year, there's no way they cut one of the best blocking TEs in the game.

Levitre-both Gs are possible cap cuts and didn't play well at all. I agree with that if they can land someone. They might have to keep a G. And if he had only allowed 6 sacks, he'd be a top lineman. That number can't be correct.

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Titans are a very weak team with a terribly timed switch from the 4-3 to 3-4. Any good 3-4 players are potential signings for them and any lineman that wouldn't break the bank. They have the 2nd most cap room so I expect (am hopeful) they sign some decent talent to fill holes

 
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Has DeAngelo been officially cut??
Heard on the radio (local Carolina show) that he can't be until June.Seems the post June cut will save $2 million on the cap.

Stupid rule imo.
I thought that they could designate him a June 1 cut right now?
Honestly I don't know what that means but that's what it sounds like.
The NFLPA doesn't like the june cut rule (because it's harder to land another job if cut late) so in the new cba they got a provision that each team can release two guys at the start of the league year (I think that's the timing) and designate them post june 1 cuts, The team gets the cap relief and the player three more months to find another team

 
Fasano cut. Kelce owners rejoice
I just don't trust Andy Reid enough to justify the hype this will create. I would be a Kelce seller right now if given the option.

If the man can't utilize Jamaal Charles to his fullest potential and never had what we would call a dominant fantasy TE, I don't see it changing.

 
7, 8 and 9. Matt Schaub, Maurice Jones-Drew and LaMarr Woodley, Oakland Raiders: Three of the worst signings of 2014. Broken beyond repair by too many hits over the past decade, Schaub was doomed from the start in Oakland. Jones-Drew somehow managed to make Trent Richardsonlook fast last season, averaging a creeping 2.2 yards on 43 carries. Woodley totaled more missed games than tackles last year.
Schaub got $8M, MDJ got $2.5M, and Woodley got $4.8M. The Raiders will have no dead money after they cut them, so while they didn't help the team it didn't hurt them long term.

 
Has DeAngelo been officially cut??
Heard on the radio (local Carolina show) that he can't be until June.Seems the post June cut will save $2 million on the cap.

Stupid rule imo.
I thought that they could designate him a June 1 cut right now?
Honestly I don't know what that means but that's what it sounds like.
The NFLPA doesn't like the june cut rule (because it's harder to land another job if cut late) so in the new cba they got a provision that each team can release two guys at the start of the league year (I think that's the timing) and designate them post june 1 cuts, The team gets the cap relief and the player three more months to find another team
Kind of odd that the NFLPA would care. No matter the player's names, the rosters will all be full. It isnt like the union lost members.

 
Has DeAngelo been officially cut??
Heard on the radio (local Carolina show) that he can't be until June.Seems the post June cut will save $2 million on the cap.

Stupid rule imo.
I thought that they could designate him a June 1 cut right now?
Honestly I don't know what that means but that's what it sounds like.
The NFLPA doesn't like the june cut rule (because it's harder to land another job if cut late) so in the new cba they got a provision that each team can release two guys at the start of the league year (I think that's the timing) and designate them post june 1 cuts, The team gets the cap relief and the player three more months to find another team
Kind of odd that the NFLPA would care. No matter the player's names, the rosters will all be full. It isnt like the union lost members.
The job of the union is to take care of it's members which is why they would care. Some players have gotten screwed by being cut after teams have filed their rosters and don't have the funds to sign them in June. Those players complained to their union reps who are supposed to look out for their best interest, thus they pushed for the rule change...

 
Harry Douglas and Brian Hartline cut.
i'm sure douglas will end up somewhere else. always looked decent when julio or roddy missed time. not sure what hartline's outlook is
Hartline is just 28 and has a coupla 1000 yd seasons. He'll find a home, and could start somewhere like Cleveland.
Hartline could probably start for almost every team. Cost is an issue. Watch Seattle or NE scoop him up.

 
Harry Douglas and Brian Hartline cut.
i'm sure douglas will end up somewhere else. always looked decent when julio or roddy missed time. not sure what hartline's outlook is
Hartline is just 28 and has a coupla 1000 yd seasons. He'll find a home, and could start somewhere like Cleveland.
Hartline could probably start for almost every team. Cost is an issue. Watch Seattle or NE scoop him up.
I was going to respond with almost literally this exact post until I read yours.

Hartline's not flashy but he's amazingly consistent and knows his role well - in other words he's a consummate Belichick kind of guy. The only thing that stops me from flat-out predicting it happening is Hartline only drew one year worth of big money from his new Phins contract. I'm not sure he's in "willing to take a big pay cut to chase a ring" mode quite yet.

 
Harry Douglas and Brian Hartline cut.
i'm sure douglas will end up somewhere else. always looked decent when julio or roddy missed time. not sure what hartline's outlook is
I agree. Hard for him to get #s with Jones and White healthy (and Gonzo prior to 2014), but whenever he started, he played well. I was surprised to see him cut because Jones and White have been nicked up a lot the past two years, hence almost 140 receptions for Douglas the past two years as WR3.

 
Harry Douglas and Brian Hartline cut.
i'm sure douglas will end up somewhere else. always looked decent when julio or roddy missed time. not sure what hartline's outlook is
I agree. Hard for him to get #s with Jones and White healthy (and Gonzo prior to 2014), but whenever he started, he played well. I was surprised to see him cut because Jones and White have been nicked up a lot the past two years, hence almost 140 receptions for Douglas the past two years as WR3.
He has 419 career targets and 8 career TDs. Replacement-level player who's going to be 31 this year.

 
Harry Douglas and Brian Hartline cut.
i'm sure douglas will end up somewhere else. always looked decent when julio or roddy missed time. not sure what hartline's outlook is
Hartline is just 28 and has a coupla 1000 yd seasons. He'll find a home, and could start somewhere like Cleveland.
Hartline could probably start for almost every team. Cost is an issue. Watch Seattle or NE scoop him up.
I was going to respond with almost literally this exact post until I read yours.

Hartline's not flashy but he's amazingly consistent and knows his role well - in other words he's a consummate Belichick kind of guy. The only thing that stops me from flat-out predicting it happening is Hartline only drew one year worth of big money from his new Phins contract. I'm not sure he's in "willing to take a big pay cut to chase a ring" mode quite yet.
Not sure if any team will give him the "big money" that Miami was on the hook for. Jumping to New England and sticking it to his former team ala Wes Welker would be my prediction.

 
49ers released WR Stevie Johnson.
The move will save San Francisco $6.025 million against the 2015 salary cap. Acquired from Buffalo for a fourth-round pick last May, Johnson posted a 35/435/3 line in his lone season in San Francisco. A crisp route runner, Johnson had three straight 1000-yard receiving seasons under new Jets OC Chan Gailey while the pair were in Buffalo. He should find a healthy market as a solid possession receiver.

Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
Feb 28 - 11:25

 
49ers released WR Stevie Johnson.
The move will save San Francisco $6.025 million against the 2015 salary cap. Acquired from Buffalo for a fourth-round pick last May, Johnson posted a 35/435/3 line in his lone season in San Francisco. A crisp route runner, Johnson had three straight 1000-yard receiving seasons under new Jets OC Chan Gailey while the pair were in Buffalo. He should find a healthy market as a solid possession receiver.

Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
Feb 28 - 11:25
Not accurate. Russini is wrong, per other sources.

Stevie Johnson - WR - 49ers
Updating a previous item, 49ers WR Stevie Johnson will be asked to take a pay cut.
Dianna Russini of NBC 4 in Washington reported earlier Saturday Johnson would be released, but it appears he will be asked to take a pay cut first. He will likely be released if he refuses the pay cut. Johnson is currently the de facto No. 2 receiver in San Francisco.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 28 - 1:15 PM

 
Saints released RB Pierre Thomas.

The Saints begin the difficult process of cutting veterans amid their salary-cap nightmare. Currently about $20 million over the cap, the Saints save just $1.735 million with the move. Thomas took a pay cut last offseason and went on to total 600 yards with three touchdowns on 90 touches. He recently turned 30 and now joins a flooded running-back market. An obvious product of Sean Payton's system, Thomas would do well to command $2 million per year as a passing-game specialist. The Saints have an in-house replacement option in Travaris Cadet.
How are the Saints so far over the cap?
 
Saints released RB Pierre Thomas.

The Saints begin the difficult process of cutting veterans amid their salary-cap nightmare. Currently about $20 million over the cap, the Saints save just $1.735 million with the move. Thomas took a pay cut last offseason and went on to total 600 yards with three touchdowns on 90 touches. He recently turned 30 and now joins a flooded running-back market. An obvious product of Sean Payton's system, Thomas would do well to command $2 million per year as a passing-game specialist. The Saints have an in-house replacement option in Travaris Cadet.
How are the Saints so far over the cap?
Brees, Evans, Colston, Grubbs, Byrd, Graham, Gallette all make obscence amounts of money.

 
Saints released RB Pierre Thomas.

The Saints begin the difficult process of cutting veterans amid their salary-cap nightmare. Currently about $20 million over the cap, the Saints save just $1.735 million with the move. Thomas took a pay cut last offseason and went on to total 600 yards with three touchdowns on 90 touches. He recently turned 30 and now joins a flooded running-back market. An obvious product of Sean Payton's system, Thomas would do well to command $2 million per year as a passing-game specialist. The Saints have an in-house replacement option in Travaris Cadet.
How are the Saints so far over the cap?
brees has had his cap hit pushed out so many times he is up to a 26 mil cap hit.

details of Junior gallette's contract

Junior Gallette has a 12.5 mil roster bonus that needs to be negotiated. (His dead cap would be too much to cut)

They have two guards with cap hits around 10 Mil.

Curtis Lofton and hi 9 Mil cap hit will be out teh door.

Oh and unlike other teams they had very little cap carryover from last year.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap/

ETA details of Junior gallette's contract

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/9288/breaking-down-galettes-contract

Wow

 
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yeah, it's been detailed in the above posts, and this is probably an oversimplification, but they probably have to of the highest paid guards in the league, and that typically isn't a $$ position.

they're kind of like the guard version of carolina's rb situation.

it's one thing to have a russell wilson and a bunch of rookie contracts, or whatever, and overspend on lynch, or a couple guys here or there, but you can't field a roster full of vet contracts, top $ qb, and then layer on top of that the highest paid guys at an odd position.

everyone saw what the pats had to do with mankins --- that's with brady taking a discount and the pats still cap crunched.

edit: with galette all they planned to do since the signing of that deal was convert the roster bonus, which shaves 10m off his cap number, at the expense of pushing more cap fwd, which is what they typically do, and why they're in this situation.

these things aren't typically as bad as they look, and it's just the saints making that playoff push while they still have brees behind center.

guys like lofton will be casualties, or colston --- but that's why you drafted whatshisname.

probably the biggest issue for them will be the guards

more edit: there was a whole thread about this during the season, and here's the overthecap write up

to thumbnail it

- 25m over

galette +10m (savings from conversion)

or this......

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton has "expressed a desire" to release RE Junior Galette.
brees +8m (salary conversion w/o even an extension, so possibly more)

lofton +4m

bunkley +3m

hawthorne +3m

r bush +2m

p thomas +1.5 (cut)

questions:

colston -9.7m (+4.3 possible savings)

j evans -11m (+6m)

grubbs -9.6m (+3.6m)

c jordan -7m (+7m - more likely extended than released, if possible, so not much here)

that's just the highlights, so you can see how much trimming can be done to get them under their number, but they need to rock it out

 
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yeah, it's been detailed in the above posts, and this is probably an oversimplification, but they probably have to of the highest paid guards in the league, and that typically isn't a $$ position.

they're kind of like the guard version of carolina's rb situation.

it's one thing to have a russell wilson and a bunch of rookie contracts, or whatever, and overspend on lynch, or a couple guys here or there, but you can't field a roster full of vet contracts, top $ qb, and then layer on top of that the highest paid guys at an odd position.

everyone saw what the pats had to do with mankins --- that's with brady taking a discount and the pats still cap crunched.

edit: with galette all they planned to do since the signing of that deal was convert the roster bonus, which shaves 10m off his cap number, at the expense of pushing more cap fwd, which is what they typically do, and why they're in this situation.

these things aren't typically as bad as they look, and it's just the saints making that playoff push while they still have brees behind center.

guys like lofton will be casualties, or colston --- but that's why you drafted whatshisname.

probably the biggest issue for them will be the guards

more edit: there was a whole thread about this during the season, and here's the overthecap write up

to thumbnail it

- 25m over

galette +10m (savings from conversion)

or this......

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton has "expressed a desire" to release RE Junior Galette.
brees +8m (salary conversion w/o even an extension, so possibly more)

lofton +4m

bunkley +3m

hawthorne +3m

r bush +2m

p thomas +1.5 (cut)

questions:

colston -9.7m (+4.3 possible savings)

j evans -11m (+6m)

grubbs -9.6m (+3.6m)

c jordan -7m (+7m - more likely extended than released, if possible, so not much here)

that's just the highlights, so you can see how much trimming can be done to get them under their number, but they need to rock it out
The three teams currently over (per the Over The Cap site):

Saints 22.4M

Patriots 12.2M

Chiefs 5.7M (a little surprised at this one)

Even NE and KC have some "rocking" to do...

 
yeah, it's been detailed in the above posts, and this is probably an oversimplification, but they probably have to of the highest paid guards in the league, and that typically isn't a $$ position.

they're kind of like the guard version of carolina's rb situation.

it's one thing to have a russell wilson and a bunch of rookie contracts, or whatever, and overspend on lynch, or a couple guys here or there, but you can't field a roster full of vet contracts, top $ qb, and then layer on top of that the highest paid guys at an odd position.

everyone saw what the pats had to do with mankins --- that's with brady taking a discount and the pats still cap crunched.

edit: with galette all they planned to do since the signing of that deal was convert the roster bonus, which shaves 10m off his cap number, at the expense of pushing more cap fwd, which is what they typically do, and why they're in this situation.

these things aren't typically as bad as they look, and it's just the saints making that playoff push while they still have brees behind center.

guys like lofton will be casualties, or colston --- but that's why you drafted whatshisname.

probably the biggest issue for them will be the guards

more edit: there was a whole thread about this during the season, and here's the overthecap write up

to thumbnail it

- 25m over

galette +10m (savings from conversion)

or this......

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton has "expressed a desire" to release RE Junior Galette.
brees +8m (salary conversion w/o even an extension, so possibly more)

lofton +4m

bunkley +3m

hawthorne +3m

r bush +2m

p thomas +1.5 (cut)

questions:

colston -9.7m (+4.3 possible savings)

j evans -11m (+6m)

grubbs -9.6m (+3.6m)

c jordan -7m (+7m - more likely extended than released, if possible, so not much here)

that's just the highlights, so you can see how much trimming can be done to get them under their number, but they need to rock it out
wow how is colston not cut yet

 
The three teams currently over (per the Over The Cap site):

Saints 22.4M

Patriots 12.2M

Chiefs 5.7M (a little surprised at this one)

Even NE and KC have some "rocking" to do...
not really on the pats --- that figure is counting a phoney 25m figure on revis which won't last another week

that said, they're a little tight, but that's been about par for the course for a decade

I wouldn't know anything about the chiefs, but that one's kind of funny 'cuz back when they did the cassel trade they were probably one of the teams with the most room, so we see how things can change in a few years.

think they just tagged houston, so that's a cap killer for them

 
wow how is colston not cut yet
well, if they cut him they save 4m on cap, and obviously the cash, but if they still love him and want to keep him for the remaining 2 years on his deal they could just convert some salary and save 3m on cap, but have to pay out the cash ---- and that's before we even get into the pressuring on pay cuts.

so, I think with him it really just comes down to the internal evaluations.

depending on what they do with these other guys they aren't really forced to make a move with him today, so he might be more of a backburner guy, if they act on that at all.

but, like I say, it really comes down to more of the talent evaluation than cap pressures in his case.

here's where colston's at on the wr list

as an aside, here's a kind of interesting table on positional cap spending by team at overthecap

 
yeah, it's been detailed in the above posts, and this is probably an oversimplification, but they probably have to of the highest paid guards in the league, and that typically isn't a $$ position.

they're kind of like the guard version of carolina's rb situation.

it's one thing to have a russell wilson and a bunch of rookie contracts, or whatever, and overspend on lynch, or a couple guys here or there, but you can't field a roster full of vet contracts, top $ qb, and then layer on top of that the highest paid guys at an odd position.

everyone saw what the pats had to do with mankins --- that's with brady taking a discount and the pats still cap crunched.

edit: with galette all they planned to do since the signing of that deal was convert the roster bonus, which shaves 10m off his cap number, at the expense of pushing more cap fwd, which is what they typically do, and why they're in this situation.

these things aren't typically as bad as they look, and it's just the saints making that playoff push while they still have brees behind center.

guys like lofton will be casualties, or colston --- but that's why you drafted whatshisname.

probably the biggest issue for them will be the guards

more edit: there was a whole thread about this during the season, and here's the overthecap write up

to thumbnail it

- 25m over

galette +10m (savings from conversion)

or this......

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton has "expressed a desire" to release RE Junior Galette.
brees +8m (salary conversion w/o even an extension, so possibly more)

lofton +4m

bunkley +3m

hawthorne +3m

r bush +2m

p thomas +1.5 (cut)

questions:

colston -9.7m (+4.3 possible savings)

j evans -11m (+6m)

grubbs -9.6m (+3.6m)

c jordan -7m (+7m - more likely extended than released, if possible, so not much here)

that's just the highlights, so you can see how much trimming can be done to get them under their number, but they need to rock it out
The three teams currently over (per the Over The Cap site):

Saints 22.4M

Patriots 12.2M

Chiefs 5.7M (a little surprised at this one)

Even NE and KC have some "rocking" to do...
:sadbanana:

 
Gallette is unlikely. I believe the charges against him were for pushing or shoving a woman to the ground. Didn't sound violent but the woman pressed charges. Later the charges were dropped. It's a good message to him, though, and players like him.
I don't think that was the major problem. The problem was he seriously underperformed last year, disappeared for long stretches, few big plays, and was frequently run over against the rush.

 
yeah, it's been detailed in the above posts, and this is probably an oversimplification, but they probably have to of the highest paid guards in the league, and that typically isn't a $$ position.

they're kind of like the guard version of carolina's rb situation.

it's one thing to have a russell wilson and a bunch of rookie contracts, or whatever, and overspend on lynch, or a couple guys here or there, but you can't field a roster full of vet contracts, top $ qb, and then layer on top of that the highest paid guys at an odd position.

everyone saw what the pats had to do with mankins --- that's with brady taking a discount and the pats still cap crunched.

edit: with galette all they planned to do since the signing of that deal was convert the roster bonus, which shaves 10m off his cap number, at the expense of pushing more cap fwd, which is what they typically do, and why they're in this situation.

these things aren't typically as bad as they look, and it's just the saints making that playoff push while they still have brees behind center.

guys like lofton will be casualties, or colston --- but that's why you drafted whatshisname.

probably the biggest issue for them will be the guards

more edit: there was a whole thread about this during the season, and here's the overthecap write up

to thumbnail it

- 25m over

galette +10m (savings from conversion)

or this......

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton has "expressed a desire" to release RE Junior Galette.
brees +8m (salary conversion w/o even an extension, so possibly more)

lofton +4m

bunkley +3m

hawthorne +3m

r bush +2m

p thomas +1.5 (cut)

questions:

colston -9.7m (+4.3 possible savings)

j evans -11m (+6m)

grubbs -9.6m (+3.6m)

c jordan -7m (+7m - more likely extended than released, if possible, so not much here)

that's just the highlights, so you can see how much trimming can be done to get them under their number, but they need to rock it out
That number is rapidly dwindling, they're probably at least at -15m, and it's declining further.

 
Gallette is unlikely. I believe the charges against him were for pushing or shoving a woman to the ground. Didn't sound violent but the woman pressed charges. Later the charges were dropped. It's a good message to him, though, and players like him.
I don't think that was the major problem. The problem was he seriously underperformed last year, disappeared for long stretches, few big plays, and was frequently run over against the rush.
that's not a problem unique to him last year. he was uneven, just like everyone else on the team. if he's lucky, he'll get a chance to redeem himself this year.

 

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