Now Kitna mentions 50 passing TDs. (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

The Detroit Free Press:

Detroit Lions QB Jon Kitna mentioned a lofty number on a radio show when asked how many touchdowns he will throw this season. "We've been joking around as the passing-game crew -- the receivers and tights ends and stuff -- we've been breaking down our little huddles saying '50' and all that stuff. But we know that's an awful lofty goal," said Kitna.

 

[Captain Hook]

If I was throwing to those receivers I would be thinking of a large number too

 

[jetpack]

Course they're not talking about the 55 INTs he'll throw along with them.

 

[Couch Potato]

Nothing wrong with setting a lofty goal, even jokingly. The mind can be tricked in many ways into doing things it didn't know it could do, and great achievement is usually the result of great expectations.

That said, when he still has 38 TD passes to go after 8 games, he may want to re-evaluate.

 

[-OZ-]

If I was throwing to those receivers I would be thinking of a large number too

Plus a defense, that despite improvements, will still allow 20+ points per game, 50 TDs may be the only way they break .500

 

[lions327]

If I was throwing to those receivers I would be thinking of a large number too

Plus a defense, that despite improvements, will still allow 20+ points per game, 50 TDs may be the only way they break .500

That means he needs 65-70 TD passes to win the 10+ he said they would win.

 

[Ned]

If I was throwing to those receivers I would be thinking of a large number too

Plus a defense, that despite improvements, will still allow 20+ points per game, 50 TDs may be the only way they break .500

That means he needs 65-70 TD passes to win the 10+ he said they would win.

bump him up your rankings folks.

 

[jabarony]

Maybe he meant the # of times he'll get sacked.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Maybe he meant the # of times he'll get sacked.

He must have some seriously bad ears to mistake "touchdowns" for "sacks".

 

[seahawk 17]

I love Kitna, but he seems to be running his mouth pretty hard this offseason.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Do not underestimate the potential for this offense to produce some lofty numbers . . .

 

[billymays]

Maybe he meant the # of times he'll get sacked.

if that was the case the lions would be in great shape...lol...seriously

 

[ALF]

As a Kitna owner I don't know weather I should be elated by the confidence he displays or should I be calling the closest mental health insititution for him to get help with his delusions of grandeur.

 

[Ned]

As a Kitna owner I don't weather I should be elated by the confidence he displays or should I be calling the closest mental health insititution for him to get help with his delusions of grandeur.

but what if he's right?

 

[ALF]

As a Kitna owner I don't weather I should be elated by the confidence he displays or should I be calling the closest mental health insititution for him to get help with his delusions of grandeur.

but what if he's right?

Obviously I’d be ecstatic if that were the case but the reality is that I don’t think he’ll even get close to Kurt Warner's best year under Martz which was 41 TD’s. I would be extremely contented with him reaching 30 TD’s and having only 15 int.

 

[Mik789fl]

Is it me or are these Lions(Kitna,Furrey,etc)sounding a lot like Martz? Confident,a lot of bravado. Maybe they've finally bought into his philosphy. IF Jones comes back healthy this offense,coupled with an average(ar best) defense will put up LARGE numbers,fantasy wise. 50 passing TD's? Naw,but plenty of scores AND yardage,I'm not a Lions fan but as fantasy player I like what I'm hearing out of Motown so far.

 

[Stealthycat]

I don't see where Kitna and the Boy's will fit into the equation of "50 TD's" with Tatum Bell getting his 2000 yards and 20 TD's .........

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

I don't see where Kitna and the Boy's will fit into the equation of "50 TD's" with Tatum Bell getting his 2000 yards and 20 TD's .........

So that means you just dump Jason Hanson down in your rankings cause there is no way he will be able to kick field goals with 70 TD's being scored with that offense.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I don't see where Kitna and the Boy's will fit into the equation of "50 TD's" with Tatum Bell getting his 2000 yards and 20 TD's .........

With their defense, I could see both of those happening and the Lions still missing the playoffs.

 

[Penguin]

Every starting QB has to enter the season full of confidence & lofty goals, it's one of the characteristics of a leader. If my starter wasn't thinking this way, well, he wouldn't be my starting QB, my Field General etc.

Now, I'm not saying that Kitna's goals are not unrealistic. I can tell you that my predications are far more conservative. I also think that he's being a little more vocal than he should be. But, I'd rather my leader be overly optimistic & vocal than pesimistic & quiet.

I don't think the Detroit offense will be much different in '07 then it was in '06. Kevin Jones is not 100% and Tatum Bell is a downgrade if he has to start in place of KJ for any length of time. CJ is a great addition to the WR corps, but I expect somewhere around 60/800 7 TD's in his rookie season. Mike Furrey is not going to disapper in '07. Now, my projections for CJ actually put him 22 points behind Furrey's '06 season in non-ppr leagues and 60 behind him in PPR's. Furrey now drops to the #3, where his '07 #'s are sure to exceed Cory Bradford's 14 receptions for 164 yds. TE is still a liability.

Really, I don't see a huge difference in the '07 offense v.s. the '06 offense. The QB is the same, you may say he has another year under Martz, ok. The RB position is deeper, but the starter position is equal at best, most likely weaker if KJ misses any time. At WR the #1 is the same, production at #2 is most likely down a little from last year. The #3 WR is a huge upgrade.

Now, 2008 is a different story. Kitna may still be around, entering his 3rd tear under Martz. K.Jones may be 100% healthy. Calvin will no longer be a rookie, he'll be primed entering his 2nd season. Hopefully the TE position will be addressed in either the draft or via FA. I think the '08 outlook is much better than '07

 

[elcohiba]

2nd year for any OC (let alone Martz) carries some amount of weight. HMMM how much?. Guess I'll start a new thread

 

[-OZ-]

Really, I don't see a huge difference in the '07 offense v.s. the '06 offense. The QB is the same, you may say he has another year under Martz, ok. The RB position is deeper, but the starter position is equal at best, most likely weaker if KJ misses any time. At WR the #1 is the same, production at #2 is most likely down a little from last year. The #3 WR is a huge upgrade.

The OLine is much better. Not enough to make this realistic (but who is it realistic for?) but much better.

 

[Routilla]

"I like to kick....stretch....and kick....I'm 50!"- Sally O'Malley

On a serious note here I think the DET offense is setting itself up for a huge letdown with all the hype. They should be going about their business instead of flapping about 10 wins and 50 TDs. Buyer beware.

 

[Da Guru]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYOzISTSmFI

 

[B-Deep]

Every starting QB has to enter the season full of confidence & lofty goals, it's one of the characteristics of a leader. If my starter wasn't thinking this way, well, he wouldn't be my starting QB, my Field General etc.Now, I'm not saying that Kitna's goals are not unrealistic. I can tell you that my predications are far more conservative. I also think that he's being a little more vocal than he should be. But, I'd rather my leader be overly optimistic & vocal than pesimistic & quiet. I don't think the Detroit offense will be much different in '07 then it was in '06. Kevin Jones is not 100% and Tatum Bell is a downgrade if he has to start in place of KJ for any length of time. CJ is a great addition to the WR corps, but I expect somewhere around 60/800 7 TD's in his rookie season. Mike Furrey is not going to disapper in '07. Now, my projections for CJ actually put him 22 points behind Furrey's '06 season in non-ppr leagues and 60 behind him in PPR's. Furrey now drops to the #3, where his '07 #'s are sure to exceed Cory Bradford's 14 receptions for 164 yds. TE is still a liability. Really, I don't see a huge difference in the '07 offense v.s. the '06 offense. The QB is the same, you may say he has another year under Martz, ok. The RB position is deeper, but the starter position is equal at best, most likely weaker if KJ misses any time. At WR the #1 is the same, production at #2 is most likely down a little from last year. The #3 WR is a huge upgrade. Now, 2008 is a different story. Kitna may still be around, entering his 3rd tear under Martz. K.Jones may be 100% healthy. Calvin will no longer be a rookie, he'll be primed entering his 2nd season. Hopefully the TE position will be addressed in either the draft or via FA. I think the '08 outlook is much better than '07

I'd wager that Tom Brady does not have a goal of 50 TD passes this year...

 

[Stealthycat]

and Tatum Bell is a downgrade if he has to start in place of KJ for any length of time

blasphemy

 

[Warhogs]

Kitna might be the most over rated QB for this upcoming season. It will be interesting to see how early teams will reach for him. It seems to me that when people's expectations of a player greatly exceed what that player has ever statistically done this usually equates to bust.

 

[Gr00vus]

Huh, preseason hype about the Lions' offense.....that's new.

 

[Jayrod]

I'd wager that Tom Brady does not have a goal of 50 TD passes this year...

I'd venture to say it is more like a goal of 19 wins.....

 

[kensat30]

Kitna might be the most over rated QB for this upcoming season. It will be interesting to see how early teams will reach for him. It seems to me that when people's expectations of a player greatly exceed what that player has ever statistically done this usually equates to bust.

Kitna ranked in as QB#6 last year and this year his ADP is QB#9. I don't get it.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Jon Kitna is a touchdown assassin.

http://withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=3228

 

[Donnybrook]

I recall Culpepper predicting 50 TDs a few months before the Vikings traded Randy Moss. That didn’t turn out to well.