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I would think Edwards is the favorite, could be a rotation with Robison where snaps are fairly equal. James is probably a longshot with his troubling knees's. Defenitley a situation to monitor closley in camps and such.The D Tacklesobxlegends said:
You got it!time to change the title.
I like most of your projections. CB yes but I like their safeties. And Bowe. The rest of their team is a huge
Something tells me and I hate to think about this but I think that Jared will be the only DE on the field all the time. I think they will rotate Edwards and Robison and James - to keep fresh pressure coming all the time. Another fantasy nightmare for us IDPers - the only people who will benefit from this are those that own Jared Allen or the Minnesota defense
(2 years back I owned Allen - picked him up off waivers for peanuts - traded him away - was a very sad thing. I kick myself every year since)ETA - same opinion as Rozelle posted earlier in the thread about rotationCan you find me a link to this? If you're right, as an Edwards owner I might start thinking about selling high.Something tells me and I hate to think about this but I think that Jared will be the only DE on the field all the time. I think they will rotate Edwards and Robison and James - to keep fresh pressure coming all the time. Another fantasy nightmare for us IDPers - the only people who will benefit from this are those that own Jared Allen or the Minnesota defense(2 years back I owned Allen - picked him up off waivers for peanuts - traded him away - was a very sad thing. I kick myself every year since)ETA - same opinion as Rozelle posted earlier in the thread about rotation
sorry no link but if I'm not mistaken there was a rotation in the DE's last year. Edwards was not on the field all the time. It just seems to me that Minnesota likes to rotate their defensive ends in and out - just from watching games. So its just my opinion and and seems to me I've read more on this board. Maybe we need Jene's opinion here?? Are you out there Jene?Can you find me a link to this? If you're right, as an Edwards owner I might start thinking about selling high.Something tells me and I hate to think about this but I think that Jared will be the only DE on the field all the time. I think they will rotate Edwards and Robison and James - to keep fresh pressure coming all the time. Another fantasy nightmare for us IDPers - the only people who will benefit from this are those that own Jared Allen or the Minnesota defense(2 years back I owned Allen - picked him up off waivers for peanuts - traded him away - was a very sad thing. I kick myself every year since)ETA - same opinion as Rozelle posted earlier in the thread about rotation
sorry no link but if I'm not mistaken there was a rotation in the DE's last year. Edwards was not on the field all the time. It just seems to me that Minnesota likes to rotate their defensive ends in and out - just from watching games. So its just my opinion and and seems to me I've read more on this board. Maybe we need Jene's opinion here?? Are you out there Jene?Can you find me a link to this? If you're right, as an Edwards owner I might start thinking about selling high.Something tells me and I hate to think about this but I think that Jared will be the only DE on the field all the time. I think they will rotate Edwards and Robison and James - to keep fresh pressure coming all the time. Another fantasy nightmare for us IDPers - the only people who will benefit from this are those that own Jared Allen or the Minnesota defense(2 years back I owned Allen - picked him up off waivers for peanuts - traded him away - was a very sad thing. I kick myself every year since)ETA - same opinion as Rozelle posted earlier in the thread about rotation
It's hard to know exactly what Minnesota wants to do. They haven't had a consistent, healthy option at end in years. My guess would be that Allen is locked into 60+ snaps a game. Unless Robison makes strides in run defense, he's probably a 15-20 snap max situational guy. James may or may not be healthy enough to cut into the other snaps on base downs -- which should be all Edwards.Edwards is (still) the guy to watch here. Teams are going to have to account for Allen and Williams, which should leave Edwards dealing with less attention. If he can handle the strong side, there's (again) 45-8 potential for him. We've been down this road before, though.
If the increased pass rush is enough to allow the Vikings to play more Tampa-2, then Greenway should get a bump in value. Henderson probably stays about the same.KellysHeroes said:
Ugh. I was hoping Allen was going to be on the strong side so that Edwards would be the RDE. Wasn't that where Allen played in KC?Anthony Borbely said:
Pretty sure Allen has always been on the weak side. Certainly since Hali has started and I believe longer than that.
OK, I guess I was remembering it wrong, or else as you said Hali took over at RDE when he arrived. I've never had Allen on my team - my most vivid recollection was of him doing his best imitation of a one-man wrecking crew against the Redskins in week 6 in 2005 (3 sacks, five solos, 2 forced fumbles
).
I remember that game. Allen made Samuels look like a kid. It was very Vrabelesque, who himself had 11 tackles, 2 assists, 3 sacks and 3 forced fumbles also against the Redskins last year.OK, I guess I was remembering it wrong, or else as you said Hali took over at RDE when he arrived. I've never had Allen on my team - my most vivid recollection was of him doing his best imitation of a one-man wrecking crew against the Redskins in week 6 in 2005 (3 sacks, five solos, 2 forced fumbles).
Edwards and Robison both seem made exclusively for the weakside. This could get interesting. Could Allen be moved to the strong side to maximize the talent?
Tony posted a link a few posts above that indirectly quotes Childress as saying it'll be Allen RDE and Edwards LDE.
Where would the bump come from? I wouldn't think Greenway would have as many opportunities against the run. Barring that where would the increased tackles in space come from?...I could see where he may blitz a bit more, though.
Tampa-2 WLBs often see increased opportunity, both in run support and pass coverage, i.e. Lance Briggs, Derrick Brooks, Cato June, etc. The Vikings were not able to play as much Tampa-2 as they may otherwise have, because that scheme requires pressure from the front four and the team barely got any pass rush from its line.If Allen continues to play to his 2005-2007 levels, they'll be able to play more Tampa-2, leaving Greenway in a much more opportunistic role. It's worth noting that Vikes DC Leslie Frazier also has some aggressive 46 background, though, and even the best case percentage of Tampa-2 may not be the same as say, Indy or Tampa Bay.
It seems like with the knee injuries, it's usually the second year before the player is 100% both physicall and mentally. We should get a better idea about Greenway this year. I thought he played well, all things considered ... one year removed from knee surgery and basically a rookie in a scheme (from my understanding) thats tough for a rookie to grasp.
I think a lot of people forget about his knee injury. He is very under the radar right now.
Tamba Hali, Chiefs corners
time to change the title.
