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Obama To Announce Uncostitutional Amnesty (1 Viewer)
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HellToupee
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Harry Reid down?? Good pols and bad on both sides yet I never see a PROGRESSIVE criticize Reid
jonessed
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Boston
Footballguy
Here's a great example of bi-partisanship:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/19/obama-to-dine-with-top-lawmakers-tonight/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/19/obama-to-dine-with-top-lawmakers-tonight/
IvanKaramazov
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The fact that Congress chose not to act isn't a reason for the President to go off on his own. If anything, it's a good reason not to do so. Congress made it pretty clear that it would never have voted to approve anything resembling amnesty, so Obama is going against the will of the legislature here.
I strongly support Obama on policy grounds, but I don't like the precedent this sets, and I'm thinking that Democrats won't be too fond if it either someday.
Baloney Sandwich
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The country needs a national leader in the Senate, it's just that simple. There is a power vacuum in Congress and it would be good for people of all leanings and stripes if the country was getting legislation passed. Nothing seems to be gotten done.
Boston
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I'm guessing it's not the same stuff Michelle likes the little people to eat...
Jim11
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Immigration reform, for starters. There used to be lots of pro-immigration people in the GOP.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
How about they show up and do their job? The GOP can't pass an immigration/border bill, the Democrats can't, they won't do it together, they create this power vacuum for a president to walk through like some giant open gaping door. We ought to thank our lucky stars Obama has been as ineffective and disorganized as he has been or we would be in real sht trouble in this country, worse than we are.
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The Commish
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wait...according to the other thread, he's not taking this immigration thing seriously. you 
need to get your stories straight and come back with a more cohesive narrative....TIA.
need to get your stories straight and come back with a more cohesive narrative....TIA.
timschochet
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they did. This is the fault of the House, not the Senate. But it goes deeper than that. For a decade or longer now moderate Republicans, knowing that this day was coming, have been trying to grant some kind of recognition to illegal immigrants in order to avoid losing the entirety of the Latino vote. They tried to cover it with a lot of talk about strengthening the border at the same time, but the base was not fooled. In 2006 and 2013 major efforts were made to solve this issue but both times the conservative base just wouldn't have it. This result has been coming for years.
timschochet
Footballguy
No and yes. First off amnesty has never been applicable anyhow, since the act of crossing our borders illegally is In most instances a misdemeanor and not the sort of major crime that would ever demand an amnesty. What we are talking about is giving legal recognition to certain undocumented immigrants (a small minority of them) and not deporting them. They are not getting green cards. They are not being made citizens. At most they are being allowed to stay, for now, until Obama's term is over.
Fennis
Footballguy
I can understand how he can choose not to deport illegal aliens, but I don't understand the first part. What legal recognition is he giving them? What will their status be?
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timschochet
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Good question. Not one person has yet been able to explain this. Maybe Obama will tomorrow night.
Fennis
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I'm sure they are going to have all the chips and soda they ripped out of your child's hands. And probably laugh at you about it.
Jim11
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http://michellemalkin.com/
President Obama is poised to show his “compassion” this week by granting work cards to an estimated five million illegal immigrants through an imperial executive order. As for the vast, untold number of law-abiding citizens whose identities have been stolen by foreign law-breakers, two words: Tough luck.
Social Security card fraudsters have made out like bandits thanks to the White House. Their victims are about to get kicked in the teeth again.
Social Security card fraudsters have made out like bandits thanks to the White House. Their victims are about to get kicked in the teeth again.
Two years ago, when Obama launched his first administrative amnesty known as “DACA” (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), the White House gave aid and comfort to illegal alien applicants who were concerned that their previous felony identity theft and fraud crimes would preclude them from the new non-deportation benefits. The Department of Homeland (In)security made clear that illegal workers who wanted coveted employment documents would not have to disclose to the feds whether they used stolen Social Security numbers.
Center for Immigration Studies analyst Jon Feere reported at the time that ethnic lobbyists and open-borders businesses lobbied the Obama administration hard “to keep American victims of ID theft in the dark while shielding unscrupulous businesses from enforcement.” As an Obama official told The New York Times, DHS employees are “not interested in using this as a way to identify one-off cases where some individual may have violated some federal law in an employment relationship.”
Translation: See no identity theft. Hear no identity theft. Speak no identity theft.
A high-profile immigration attorney crowed: “Good news for deferred action applicants: If you used a false Social Security card, you need not reveal the number on your deferred action application forms. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has clarified that when the forms ask for an applicant’s Social Security number, it refers to Social Security numbers issued to the applicant. If you used a friend’s number, a made-up number or a stolen number, you should answer N/A for ‘not applicable’ where it asks for the number.”
Since then, more than 500,000 DACA applications have been approved with abysmal oversight, little public disclosure and total absolution for identity rip-off artists. The latest planned administrative amnesty will dwarf that ongoing fiasco.
President Obama is poised to show his “compassion” this week by granting work cards to an estimated five million illegal immigrants through an imperial executive order. As for the vast, untold number of law-abiding citizens whose identities have been stolen by foreign law-breakers, two words: Tough luck.
Social Security card fraudsters have made out like bandits thanks to the White House. Their victims are about to get kicked in the teeth again.
Social Security card fraudsters have made out like bandits thanks to the White House. Their victims are about to get kicked in the teeth again.
Two years ago, when Obama launched his first administrative amnesty known as “DACA” (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), the White House gave aid and comfort to illegal alien applicants who were concerned that their previous felony identity theft and fraud crimes would preclude them from the new non-deportation benefits. The Department of Homeland (In)security made clear that illegal workers who wanted coveted employment documents would not have to disclose to the feds whether they used stolen Social Security numbers.
Center for Immigration Studies analyst Jon Feere reported at the time that ethnic lobbyists and open-borders businesses lobbied the Obama administration hard “to keep American victims of ID theft in the dark while shielding unscrupulous businesses from enforcement.” As an Obama official told The New York Times, DHS employees are “not interested in using this as a way to identify one-off cases where some individual may have violated some federal law in an employment relationship.”
Translation: See no identity theft. Hear no identity theft. Speak no identity theft.
A high-profile immigration attorney crowed: “Good news for deferred action applicants: If you used a false Social Security card, you need not reveal the number on your deferred action application forms. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has clarified that when the forms ask for an applicant’s Social Security number, it refers to Social Security numbers issued to the applicant. If you used a friend’s number, a made-up number or a stolen number, you should answer N/A for ‘not applicable’ where it asks for the number.”
Since then, more than 500,000 DACA applications have been approved with abysmal oversight, little public disclosure and total absolution for identity rip-off artists. The latest planned administrative amnesty will dwarf that ongoing fiasco.
Fennis
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Ever since reading that Obama is opening a massive abortion-plex at the mall I no longer get fooled by Onion articles. Thanks for posting, tho. Good stuff.
SaintsInDome2006
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You can say this about Malkin, she is the daughter of immigrants who came here legally on a work visa. She is Phillipino.
My grandparents were immigrants (from Spain), just as most Americans have some connection to immigration. I don't know that all immigrants or all Hispanic immigrants are exactly jumping for joy that lawbreakers get in more easily than they did or that they will now be competing for work with people who can suddenly show up with paperwork...
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squistion
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You can also say she wrote a book defending the internment of US Japanese citizens in camps during WWII and at one time implied that Muslim citizens should be similarly locked up for the duration of the War on Terror.
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SaintsInDome2006
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So you say a Phillipino has concern and real hatred or fear about Japanese and muslims.... hmmmm where would that come from...
Boston
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squistion
Footballguy
Just pointing out that someone who is in a minority can also be bigoted against other minorities. Rather disingenuous to point out her ethnic background as if it somehow gives her more credibility than someone who is not a minority.
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SaintsInDome2006
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I applaud the conservatives in the Congress who are so dedicated to the Constitution that they oppose this. Of course, these are the same people that just filibustered a bill that helps prevent the government from raping the 4th amendment. I guess the Constitution only matters when you use it to prevent undesirables from attaining rights, not when you need it to protect the rights of people already here.
Jim11
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Recent survey.
https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/19/nbc-poll-executive-amnesty-is-pretty-unpopular-with-just-about-everybody/
NBC/WSJ found that only 38 percent of the public are happy with the president’s planned immigration order, while a full 48 percent disapprove. 11 percent of Republicans approve of the move and 37 percent of self-described independents agree. Shockingly, only 63 percent of Democrats in that survey expressed support for an executive order.
Even more surprisingly, that poll found that immigration reform via executive order is not especially popular with even Hispanic voters. Just 43 percent of Hispanics polled support an executive action creating legal status for millions of illegal immigrants while 37 percent disapprove.
https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/19/nbc-poll-executive-amnesty-is-pretty-unpopular-with-just-about-everybody/
NBC/WSJ found that only 38 percent of the public are happy with the president’s planned immigration order, while a full 48 percent disapprove. 11 percent of Republicans approve of the move and 37 percent of self-described independents agree. Shockingly, only 63 percent of Democrats in that survey expressed support for an executive order.
Even more surprisingly, that poll found that immigration reform via executive order is not especially popular with even Hispanic voters. Just 43 percent of Hispanics polled support an executive action creating legal status for millions of illegal immigrants while 37 percent disapprove.
squistion
Footballguy
But not for raising the minimum wage, which is the help these people really need instead of your trickle down economics.
Apple Jack
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All a very shrewd ploy to see to it that he is able to gain lawful employment when he's done converting the country into the Islamic Socialists Republic.
Boston
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squistion
Footballguy
They polled only 110 Latinos. Too small a sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions.
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urbanhack
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skol asylum
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The last 3 elections have proven that moderate Democrats running away from Obama tend to win. Good point.
skol asylum
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squistion
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mcintyre1
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skol asylum
Footballguy
Pelosi and Boner are turrible too.
HellToupee
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HellToupee
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skol asylum
Footballguy
Romney sucks as well.
timschochet
Footballguy
My wife and daughters think that my concerns about unilateral action are absurd. They're pleased as punch about this. My younger daughter put it very simply: "I don't think kids should be separated from their parents."
Better logic than a lot of what I've read here...
Better logic than a lot of what I've read here...
Fennis
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