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*** OFFICAL 2009 San Diego Super Chargers Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Link to some of the stronger comments A.J. made.

"Absolutely embarrassing,” Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith confirmed Tuesday during the first of our annual quarterly report get-togethers. “Everything is wrong with it right now. I'm not the least bit happy in a lot of areas. I've seen us be tough and physical to soft and bewildered.”

“Everybody gets hurt in the National Football League, if not early, then late, or in the playoffs,” Smith said. “You do the best you can. Deal with it."

“Everything bothers me right now and there's not much we can do. You can make trades (trading deadline's Oct. 20) or go on the street, but all you can do is tweak in football – during the season. You can lose your job and the players are still here."

“If this trend continues, we'll be 8-8 – or worse – and certainly out of the division,” Smith said. “We won't have the credentials. It's not going well for the San Diego Chargers and we'd better get our act together quickly."

“We need to complete games. We've gained absolutely no ground over last year. I'm extremely disappointed.”
I don't think there's any equivocating here - sounds like he just put everyone on notice. If they finish out the year the way they've started I'd expect some serious housecleaning in the offseason, including the coaching staff, Norv in particular. That almost makes me want to root for them to miss the playoffs this year. Almost.
unless they hire shannahan or Cowher there isnt anyone else out there worth it is there?Cowher isnt coming becuase of the whole Marty thing

Shanahan would be very interesting
Gruden? Holmgren? Or follow the trend and go with a guy with no HC track record?As for A.J.'s comments, while I don't disagree with them, I am also starting to think that his GM performance has been overrated in recent years. He is the guy more than anyone else that is responsible for the depth issues on the team. He says every team gets hurt and you deal with it... what was his plan to deal with the OL and DL injuries? Is he implying that he did his job well and either the players or coaches or both aren't doing theirs?
I agree, the shine has come off of AJ some lately. The DL is terrible without Jamal. The LBs appear overrated. The OLine has been an issue for awhile. Losing Brees n Turner for comp picks was a bad move as well .

 
As for A.J.'s comments, while I don't disagree with them, I am also starting to think that his GM performance has been overrated in recent years. He is the guy more than anyone else that is responsible for the depth issues on the team. He says every team gets hurt and you deal with it... what was his plan to deal with the OL and DL injuries? Is he implying that he did his job well and either the players or coaches or both aren't doing theirs?
I agree, the shine has come off of AJ some lately. The DL is terrible without Jamal. The LBs appear overrated. The OLine has been an issue for awhile. Losing Brees n Turner for comp picks was a bad move as well .
Not happy with A.J. right now. I'd like to think he's pointing some of his disappointment at himself along with everyone else. He hasn't had a good draft in about 3 years. Buster Davis - are you ####### kidding me?
 
Buster Davis's career has been like LT's 2009 season. You can't really point to his play and say that it was poor. He's done about as well as anyone would have done with the exact same opportunities. I don't think Buster has ever dropped a ball, for example. But Floyd and Naanee play special teams and Buster doesn't (as long as Sproles is healthy), so Buster gets deactivated. Vincent Jackson didn't bust out until his fourth year. I'd give Davis another year. Maybe he will end up sucking, but I think it's impossible to say right now -- just like it is with LT this season.

Shaun Phillps, Shawne Merriman, Antonio Cromartie, Marcus McNeil to some extent, and a number of other players are making AJ look a lot less brilliant than he looked a few years ago when those guys looked like studs. But is that AJ's fault, or the players' fault? (Maybe it's the coaches' fault, which would make it AJ's fault indirectly.)

 
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Buster Davis's career has been like LT's 2009 season. You can't really point to his play and say that it was poor. He's done about as well as anyone would have done with the exact same opportunities. I don't think Buster has ever dropped a ball, for example. But Floyd and Naanee play special teams and Buster doesn't (as long as Sproles is healthy), so Buster gets deactivated. Vincent Jackson didn't bust out until his fourth year. I'd give Davis another year. Maybe he will end up sucking, but I think it's impossible to say right now -- just like it is with LT this season.

Shaun Phillps, Shawne Merriman, Antonio Cromartie, Marcus McNeil to some extent, and a number of other players are making AJ look a lot less brilliant than he looked a few years ago when those guys looked like studs. But is that AJ's fault, or the players' fault? (Maybe it's the coaches' fault, which would make it AJ's fault indirectly.)
Sure, it's possible that Davis will yet emerge... but don't you think A.J. expected him to be an impact player by now? If he didn't, why take him in the first round? At this point, it would seem to b an extreme long shot that Davis will work out for San Diego.As for the bolded, there may be an exception, but in general, yes, it is A.J.'s fault. The GM's responsibility is to assess players in terms of how they will help the team... that's not just physical ability, but also things like work ethic, motivation, durability, etc. It is a given that this is difficult, but that is the job.

 
Sure, it's possible that Davis will yet emerge... but don't you think A.J. expected him to be an impact player by now? If he didn't, why take him in the first round?
Sure. At the time Davis was drafted, Vincent Jackson still hadn't done anything, Chris Chambers was a Dolphin, Malcom Floyd had never been healthy, and Legedu Naanee was still awaiting his draft-day phone call.WR looked like a huge need at the time. The Chargers are loaded there for now, and if AJ had foreseen that I'm sure he would have preferred to use the pick on an offensive or defensive lineman instead. But if Jackson & Chambers & Floyd & Naanee hadn't worked out, Davis might be the Chargers' WR1 right now.

At this point, it would seem to b an extreme long shot that Davis will work out for San Diego.
Well, Chambers is almost certainly gone after this season. That will give Davis a shot next year. What he does with it is up to him, but I see no prima facie reason to think he can't contribute as well as Naanee and Floyd. According to Norv, Davis is behind Naanee and Floyd right now not because they are better receivers, but because they are better special teams players. When he gets a chance to be a receiver, he may do as well or better than them. Or he may not. Who knows? The point is that it's premature to write him off until he gets a chance.
 
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Sure, it's possible that Davis will yet emerge... but don't you think A.J. expected him to be an impact player by now? If he didn't, why take him in the first round?
Sure. At the time Davis was drafted, Vincent Jackson still hadn't done anything, Chris Chambers was a Dolphin, Malcom Floyd had never been healthy, and Legedu Naanee was still awaiting his draft-day phone call.WR looked like a huge need at the time. The Chargers are loaded there for now, and if AJ had foreseen that I'm sure he would have preferred to use the pick on an offensive or defensive lineman instead. But if Jackson & Chambers & Floyd & Naanee hadn't worked out, Davis might be the Chargers' WR1 right now.

At this point, it would seem to b an extreme long shot that Davis will work out for San Diego.
Well, Chambers is almost certainly gone after this season. That will give Davis a shot next year. What he does with it is up to him, but I see no prima facie reason to think he can't contribute as well as Naanee and Floyd. According to Norv, Davis is behind Naanee and Floyd right now not because they are better receivers, but because they are better special teams players. When he gets a chance to be a receiver, he may do as well or better than them. Or he may not. Who knows? The point is that it's premature to write him off until he gets a chance.
Sorry, but this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. A.J. is the guy who acquired Chambers, Jackson, Floyd, and Naanee. Shouldn't he know what he has in those guys? We're not talking about a third or fourth round flyer taken on Davis... he was a first round pick. No way it is reasonable to spend a first rounder on him and him not have a role that even warrants him being active on game days in his third year.Agree Chambers is likely gone after this year. But why would you say Davis is in position to contribute as much as Floyd and/or Naanee? Regardless of the reason, those guys have earned their way onto the field and into targets on offense, and they have done well with the opportunities they have been given. Davis cannot say the same thing. I see absolutely no reason to think that Davis can push above #4 WR next season, barring injury.

 
Link to some of the stronger comments A.J. made.

"Absolutely embarrassing,” Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith confirmed Tuesday during the first of our annual quarterly report get-togethers. “Everything is wrong with it right now. I'm not the least bit happy in a lot of areas. I've seen us be tough and physical to soft and bewildered.”

“Everybody gets hurt in the National Football League, if not early, then late, or in the playoffs,” Smith said. “You do the best you can. Deal with it."

“Everything bothers me right now and there's not much we can do. You can make trades (trading deadline's Oct. 20) or go on the street, but all you can do is tweak in football – during the season. You can lose your job and the players are still here."

“If this trend continues, we'll be 8-8 – or worse – and certainly out of the division,” Smith said. “We won't have the credentials. It's not going well for the San Diego Chargers and we'd better get our act together quickly."

“We need to complete games. We've gained absolutely no ground over last year. I'm extremely disappointed.”
I don't think there's any equivocating here - sounds like he just put everyone on notice. If they finish out the year the way they've started I'd expect some serious housecleaning in the offseason, including the coaching staff, Norv in particular. That almost makes me want to root for them to miss the playoffs this year. Almost.
unless they hire shannahan or Cowher there isnt anyone else out there worth it is there?

Cowher isnt coming becuase of the whole Marty thing

Shanahan would be very interesting
Remember when they interviewed Rex Ryan and passed on him for Norv :unsure: ....I remember that was who I wanted to keep the agressive D going like they had in 2006
 
Hart rumored to be cut.

Updated: October 14, 2009, 1:23 PM ET

Source: Hart informed he's being cut

ESPN.com news services

In a surprise move Wednesday morning, the San Diego Chargers informed starting safety Clinton Hart that he is being released, according to a source.

Hart had spent six years with the Chargers, starting in 33 games over the past three seasons.

According to a source, Hart was surprised by the move. But the decision may have been foreshadowed in the past few weeks, as Chargers coaches were removing him from some of the team's nickel packages for passing situations.

Hart, 32, started his career with the Philadelphia Eagles before moving on to the Chargers.

ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton and ESPN.com AFC West reporter Bill Williamson contributed to this report.
Maybe it's Ellison time :thumbdown: . Kid can hit, he should at least see increased PT even if he's not going right into the starting lineup. I hope he's going straight to starter as I don't think Gregory is good.
 
Hart's officially cut, DT Scott resigned.

Chargers re-sign Scott, release Hart

Casey Pearce

Posted Oct 14, 2009

The Chargers added depth to their defensive line Wednesday when they re-signed veteran defensive tackle Ian Scott. To make room for him on the roster, the team released safety Clinton Hart.

Scott, a seven-year veteran, joined the Chargers last September and appeared in four games with San Diego. He spent the entire 2009 offseason with the club but was released at the conclusion of training camp.

Hart joined the Chargers in 2004 and has been a starter since 2007.
At least they picked up another DT. Maybe they can somewhat make up what they lack in talent with rotating fresh guys through the D line.
 
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Hart seems like a good person, so for that reason only, I'm a bit sorry to see him be cut outright.

But he really played himself off the team this season and last. He's been horrible. He couldn't cover or tackle.

I'd like to see Paul Oliver and Kevin Ellison get most of the work going forward, since Steve Gregory has been pretty bad as well.

Ellison will make some rookie mistakes, but not as many as Hart was making.

 
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Hart seems like a good person, so for that reason only, I'm a bit sorry to see him be cut outright.But he really played himself off the team this season and last. He's been horrible. He couldn't cover or tackle.I'd like to see Paul Oliver and Kevin Ellison get most of the work going forward, since Steve Gregory has been pretty bad as well.Ellison will make some rookie mistakes, but not as many as Hart was making.
I concur, Hart has been awful. His open field tackling is what doomed him. There have been plenty of times where he is in position to make a play at the LOS, only to whiff. I am not sure Gregory will do much better, but he hits pretty hard for a little guy and does a better job in the open field. His coverage skills are as bad or worse, and that is bad. My guess is we will be seeing alot of Ellison very soon (possible Spillman as well).
 
I concur, Hart has been awful. His open field tackling is what doomed him. There have been plenty of times where he is in position to make a play at the LOS, only to whiff.
I think what doomed him is that he gets completely lost in coverage all the time. Seems like on every big pass play they give up he enters the frame towards the tail end of it giving it the who blew the coverage :lmao: .
(possible Spillman as well).
:unsure: This guy delivered some big hits during preseason too.
 
Not happy with A.J. right now. I'd like to think he's pointing some of his disappointment at himself along with everyone else. He hasn't had a good draft in about 3 years. Buster Davis - are you ####### kidding me?
I think MT makes good points about the state of the WR corp at the time Davis was drafted and it's always difficult to make decisions on injury prone players. We argue about whether players are injury prone or whether or not you can project injuries on this board quite a bit. I agree with the overall sentiment though that AJ is also to blame in this situation.- The LB corp was never prepared for the eventual departure of Donnie Edwards and the team was never very aggressive on the FA market to replace him.- I thought at the time the decision not to franchise Turner was a huge mistake... LT had a lot of milage on the tires even back then.- I'm not so much upset about the Davis pick but some of those mid round picks of guys like Johnson(RB), Hester(FB), Thomas(RB), Chandler(TE), and Whitehurst(QB) in the last four years had me scratching my head. In those middle 3rd-5th rounds there are some talented prospects you can draft in the trenches to compete with starters or at least add depth. It just seems like QB/RB/TE were positions that had very little shot to contribute and would have to fight just to make the team if they played very, very well. Hardwick has only started a full season once in his career. Williams is 33. It shouldn't have been a big stretch to think the team needed more depth in the trenches than they have. I don't agree with much of the criticism AJ gets but there are certainly mistakes he's made to make this team under-perform during the regular season.
 
I concur, Hart has been awful. His open field tackling is what doomed him. There have been plenty of times where he is in position to make a play at the LOS, only to whiff.
I think what doomed him is that he gets completely lost in coverage all the time. Seems like on every big pass play they give up he enters the frame towards the tail end of it giving it the who blew the coverage :) .
I think what's disappointing is AJ seems fine going into the season with a guy like Hart starting. You see musical-safety all around the league every off season and it's difficult watching cheap veterans at the end of their career like Sharper and Dawkins bringing leadership to their teams and SD always seems content going into the year with guys like Hart and Kiel even after they know what those players bring to the table.
 
Not much happening in this thread these days. I guess we all expected them to roll over KC, but it was nice to see them finally get some pass rush even if it was with the blitz. They can't leave this secondary in coverage for very long.

I still have hope. If they can go into Denver without any more losses :lmao: , and Baltimore or somebody else can finally beat the Broncos it's a whole new season.

 
I've come to the realization that this franchise will never win a Super Bowl. That's somewhat taken the steam out of my enthusiasm. They beat a horrifically bad team last week and play another horrifically bad team this week - that'll be just enough to trick people into thinking the Chargers are contenders again, but I'm not buying it. I find it hard to believe Steve Gregory was the key element in turning this team around.

 
come on Groover never?

who knows.

The 14-2 team had the best chance had that moron McCree just knocked it down instead of trying to be a hero.

This current squad with Norv at the helm has no chance though, you are right.

I expect them to be 4-3 heading into NYG and Philly. I also expect Denver to maybe lose the next 2 game to Balt and Pitt.

SD is in the hunt for the final wildcard.

Im on the fence, I want the team to do good, but I kinda want to get Norv outta here, and I have apathy towards AJ, hes good but he has made some boneheaded decisions.

heading into next season we need a young RB, and as many OL and DL as we can draft/grab via free agency.

 
What's really sad about it is we don't even get the consideration long suffering fans of other sad sack teams (like the Cubs) get. The Chargers are a total afterthought. Yeah I'm :unsure: like a #####. Seems like I do this right about this time every season. It's frustrating to think the team was on the verge of being respectable a couple years back and now they're not really in the conversation anymore.

Anyway, your laundry list of players needed is already too long to realistically expect to fill in a single offseason.

Phil's in his prime along with Jackson. Gates looks like he's lost a step to me though he's still an incredibly skilled player. I think they'll have a solid WR 3/4 combo in Floyd and Naanee. So we could be moving into another "air" era like the late 70's early 80's which could be fun to watch. But they absolutely have to address the offensive line, otherwise Phil will go the way of Stan due to getting his bell rung too often.

Tomlinsons don't come around too often. They should be able to find a serviceable back to replace him that'll keep defenses somewhat honest IF they can get some blocking.

The defense is starting to look like a total rebuild.

Not a fan of the coaching staff.

Yeah, never is a long time, longer than the amount of time the Chargers have been in the NFL to date with 0 championships.

 
What's really sad about it is we don't even get the consideration long suffering fans of other sad sack teams (like the Cubs) get. The Chargers are a total afterthought. Yeah I'm :goodposting: like a #####. Seems like I do this right about this time every season. It's frustrating to think the team was on the verge of being respectable a couple years back and now they're not really in the conversation anymore.Anyway, your laundry list of players needed is already too long to realistically expect to fill in a single offseason. Phil's in his prime along with Jackson. Gates looks like he's lost a step to me though he's still an incredibly skilled player. I think they'll have a solid WR 3/4 combo in Floyd and Naanee. So we could be moving into another "air" era like the late 70's early 80's which could be fun to watch. But they absolutely have to address the offensive line, otherwise Phil will go the way of Stan due to getting his bell rung too often.Tomlinsons don't come around too often. They should be able to find a serviceable back to replace him that'll keep defenses somewhat honest IF they can get some blocking.The defense is starting to look like a total rebuild.Not a fan of the coaching staff.Yeah, never is a long time, longer than the amount of time the Chargers have been in the NFL to date with 0 championships.
So you're saying there's a chance!
 
What's really sad about it is we don't even get the consideration long suffering fans of other sad sack teams (like the Cubs) get. The Chargers are a total afterthought. Yeah I'm :goodposting: like a #####. Seems like I do this right about this time every season. It's frustrating to think the team was on the verge of being respectable a couple years back and now they're not really in the conversation anymore.Anyway, your laundry list of players needed is already too long to realistically expect to fill in a single offseason. Phil's in his prime along with Jackson. Gates looks like he's lost a step to me though he's still an incredibly skilled player. I think they'll have a solid WR 3/4 combo in Floyd and Naanee. So we could be moving into another "air" era like the late 70's early 80's which could be fun to watch. But they absolutely have to address the offensive line, otherwise Phil will go the way of Stan due to getting his bell rung too often.Tomlinsons don't come around too often. They should be able to find a serviceable back to replace him that'll keep defenses somewhat honest IF they can get some blocking.The defense is starting to look like a total rebuild.Not a fan of the coaching staff.Yeah, never is a long time, longer than the amount of time the Chargers have been in the NFL to date with 0 championships.
So you're saying there's a chance!
why in the hell is your Name Nick Vermeil?
 
What's really sad about it is we don't even get the consideration long suffering fans of other sad sack teams (like the Cubs) get. The Chargers are a total afterthought. Yeah I'm :thumbup: like a #####. Seems like I do this right about this time every season. It's frustrating to think the team was on the verge of being respectable a couple years back and now they're not really in the conversation anymore.Anyway, your laundry list of players needed is already too long to realistically expect to fill in a single offseason. Phil's in his prime along with Jackson. Gates looks like he's lost a step to me though he's still an incredibly skilled player. I think they'll have a solid WR 3/4 combo in Floyd and Naanee. So we could be moving into another "air" era like the late 70's early 80's which could be fun to watch. But they absolutely have to address the offensive line, otherwise Phil will go the way of Stan due to getting his bell rung too often.Tomlinsons don't come around too often. They should be able to find a serviceable back to replace him that'll keep defenses somewhat honest IF they can get some blocking.The defense is starting to look like a total rebuild.Not a fan of the coaching staff.Yeah, never is a long time, longer than the amount of time the Chargers have been in the NFL to date with 0 championships.
So you're saying there's a chance!
why in the hell is your Name Nick Vermeil?
Long story. Was ****, then some tool created a Dr. Andrews account and he ratted me out when Joe changed his to Dr. Andrews Fan. Lame name change followed. :wub:
 
What do you guys make of the talk that Malcom Floyd might replace Chris Chambers soon? Could Floyd be a real surprise in the second half of the season or is the SD passing game destined to be a two-man show with Vince Jackson and Gates?

 
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What do you guys make of the talk that Malcom Floyd might replace Chris Chambers soon? Could Floyd be a real surprise in the second half of the season or is the SD passing game destined to be a two-man show with Vince Jackson and Gates?
I think last week is about the ceiling for Floyd. Maybe a touch higher. But it won't happen regularly. He'd be a bye week fill in, emergency WR3 at best.
 
What do you guys make of the talk that Malcom Floyd might replace Chris Chambers soon? Could Floyd be a real surprise in the second half of the season or is the SD passing game destined to be a two-man show with Vince Jackson and Gates?
I'm no expert, but Chambers has been terrible this year. He was just awful in the last game while Floyd seemed to get more action then he has in the past. I think it is a possibility that Floyd continues to see more plays but even if he takes over the starting role, you've got Jackson, Gates and Sproles ahead of him in passing formations. Sprinkle in the occasional passes to Nanee and the fullback and he's good for a handful of targets each game as the norm. That said he might be worth a roll of the dice in a deeper redraft if you have roster space for a flier.
 
Any SD locals interested in my tickets to the Raider game this weekend? Seats are excellent, Field Section 0, row 22. They are my season tickets, but I'll be at the Phish festival in Indio. Would much rather sell them to a Bolt homer instead of a Raider fan coming down for the game.

Just looking for face, $98 per ticket, so $196 total.

 
Adios Chris Chambers.

Floyd is starting at WR2. Naanee moves up to WR3, Osgood and Davis?!?! to get some time at WR4?

We could see this move coming for a while now. While I feel bad for Chambers getting dumped, I think it's best for all parties in the long run.

Tough week ahead traveling to play the slumping Giants in what turns out to be a huge game on the schedule for both teams. Who'll suck least?

The next three games vs. the Giants, Eagles and Broncos are huge. I think the Chargers need to go 2-1 here. They might be able to go 1-2 if the 1 is over the Broncos. 0-3 would be the end of their playoff chances.

 
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Chambers just wasn't helping the Chargers at all. He's not better than Floyd or Naanee, he may not be better than Davis, and he doesn't play special teams.

I've thought for a while that he shouldn't be activated on game days. But if they're going to inactivate him, why not cut him? Yes, they might need depth at WR if Floyd and Naanee get hurt . . . but they need depth right now at other positions (notably ILB).

 
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Chambers just wasn't helping the Chargers at all.
You people think he was worth the 2nd rounder?I think he was personally - it was good to have him at that point in Rivers's development when they traded for him. But I could see arguments to the contrary since he didn't exactly put them over the top. Then again given A.J.'s recent track record that pick very likely would have been wasted or traded to the Patriots for a handful of magic beans anyway.
 
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Floyd could be a beast. He sure has done a hell of a lot in terms of yardage with the few catches he's had in the past year. By the way, put the Chargers O together with the Redskins D and ya got a Soperbowl winner.

 
Just noodling here, but supposing Norv gets the axe, what coaches which we could legitimately consider as replacements would we actually want?

Gruden keeps getting mentioned for every potential vacancy - I don't know that I'm sold on the guy.

I assume Parcells is done with HC, Cowher won't leave his area, Dungy is probably not coming out of retirement either. Is there some up and comer you guys know about that would be an upgrade. I'm tired of the retreads. Then again the Mike Riley thing was suckotastic, although he didn't have a ton of talent to work with until the end (sort of).

 
Agree with cutting Chambers. I think he's gotten far more snaps than he deserved the past 5-6 weeks anyway. Can't wait to see Floyd and Naanee getting more looks.

Gr00vus > we've won 3 straight, and a win this weekend over the Giants coupled with a Denver loss puts us 1 back. STOP CALLING FOR NORV'S HEAD!!

 
Agree with cutting Chambers. I think he's gotten far more snaps than he deserved the past 5-6 weeks anyway. Can't wait to see Floyd and Naanee getting more looks.Gr00vus > we've won 3 straight, and a win this weekend over the Giants coupled with a Denver loss puts us 1 back. STOP CALLING FOR NORV'S HEAD!!
2 straight wins.I have little to no hope of SD beating NYG. they have lost 3 straight and I expect them to run all over this D. As far as Norv goes, this team has taken on his persona, "ho Hum". They never looks ready against a quality opponent to start a game, and the D well Im not sure he even touches the D side of the ball and thats were the biggest problem is.IMO, Shannahan, Gruden, Holmgren. Id prefer anyone with experience over a young up and comer right now
 
Aside from being 1-0 earlier this season, which doesn't really count, the Chargers now have a winning record for the first time since 2007.

 
STOP CALLING FOR NORV'S HEAD!!
I want to understand this. 1) In the best of all possible worlds, would Norv be the head coach for your favorite team?

2) If not, if there were superior coaching talent available, wouldn't you want to upgrade?

3) Do you think there is superior coaching talent available?

To answer my own questions:

1) Hell no

2) Of course

3) Yes

Which leaves me with the unavoidable conclusion that someone better than Norv should be the HC for the Chargers after this season. unless they somehow win the super bowl

Gunz - your take on that?

 
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STOP CALLING FOR NORV'S HEAD!!
I want to understand this. 1) In the best of all possible worlds, would Norv be the head coach for your favorite team?

2) If not, if there were superior coaching talent available, wouldn't you want to upgrade?

3) Do you think there is superior coaching talent available?

To answer my own questions:

1) Hell no

2) Of course

3) Yes

Which leaves me with the unavoidable conclusion that someone better than Norv should be the HC for the Chargers after this season. unless they somehow win the super bowl

Gunz - your take on that?
Ah - the bold clears it up. My answer to your questions is yet to be determined, as the outcome of the 2009 season will strong influence how I feel about Norv.
 
Ah - the bold clears it up. My answer to your questions is yet to be determined, as the outcome of the 2009 season will strong influence how I feel about Norv.
Yes, if he goes 13-3 this year, it would be pretty stupid to fire him . . . unless he tries to hire his brother as defensive coordinator.
 
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Ah - the bold clears it up. My answer to your questions is yet to be determined, as the outcome of the 2009 season will strong influence how I feel about Norv.
Yes, if he goes 13-3 this year, it would be pretty stupid to fire him . . . unless he tries to hire his brother as defensive coordinator.
A minute ago it was going to the AFC championship. What's with a)the stealth edit and b)ratcheting down expectations?
 
Chambers getting claimed saves teh Bolts $2M as well, assuming that money is reallocated to payroll and not Dean's private account. :thumbup:

 
Ah - the bold clears it up. My answer to your questions is yet to be determined, as the outcome of the 2009 season will strong influence how I feel about Norv.
Yes, if he goes 13-3 this year, it would be pretty stupid to fire him . . . unless he tries to hire his brother as defensive coordinator.
A minute ago it was going to the AFC championship. What's with a)the stealth edit and b)ratcheting down expectations?
I realized after posting that Marty didn't make it to the AFC Championship in 2006 before getting fired.
 
Chambers getting claimed saves teh Bolts $2M as well, assuming that money is reallocated to payroll and not Dean's private account. :mellow:
Amen brother, especially if it goes toward extending Vincent Jackson. I'd love to see the Rivers/Jackson connection stay together for a long, long while.Although I'll also add that I don't consider the Chambers move a bad move by AJ. Without Chambers I doubt SD beats TEN at home in the first round of the playoffs '07/'08 when Gates goes down with the injury. Chambers also had 66yd/1td in the following game on the road to bounce Indy and get SD to the AFC title game. SD lost that AFC title game but Chambers had 7 catches for 90 yards to keep the game pretty close compared to how NE was blowing people out that year. It seems all the rage to rag on Chambers right now but I appreciate his contributions to the franchise while he was on the team. Plenty of 2nd rounder fail to contribute even that much and nothing's ever said about it.
 

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