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***Official 1/6 Select Committee thread*** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter dozer
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Hey, so when we dismiss "unnamed sources within the Secret Service" that allegedly contradicted the testimony, we cannot then flip around and pound our chest about "unnamed sources within the Secret Service" that support the testimony.
Neither tidbit should carry any weight. People need to get under oath and give their testimony, either way.
massraider
Footballguy
The only dismissing being done is by MAGA sheep.
Tony Ornato, come on down! Be heard!
Also, Tony Ornato: Not in Secret Service on January 6th. He was a Trump appointee White House Aide.
massraider
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1542604801036455937?t=7Zy9LSGXEoEO5b5rpPVvSA&s=19
NEWS: The Jan. 6 select committee has interviewed Trump White House aide Tony ORNATO twice, once in January, once in March.
His answers in the Jan. interview drew skepticism from the panel and is partly behind some members'efforts to attack his credibility.
Among things Ornato told the committee in Jan:
-Trump may not have known Pence was in the Capitol when he tweeted his 2:24pm attack on the VP. That's partly because, Ornato said, he had told Meadows (incorrectly) that Pence had been evacuated to his residence.
The panel also asked Ornato whether Trump could have more forecfully told rioters to go home at 3:13pm, when he instead urged them to "remain peaceful" (the violence had gone on for hours).
Ornato said Trump had done everything he could and nothing he did/said would have helped.
Details from Ornato's first interview come amid an effort by the committee to portray him as unreliable. Anonymously sourced reports suggest Ornato is prepared to testify that a key element of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was false -- but Ornato has not spoken publicly yet.
NEWS: The Jan. 6 select committee has interviewed Trump White House aide Tony ORNATO twice, once in January, once in March.
His answers in the Jan. interview drew skepticism from the panel and is partly behind some members'efforts to attack his credibility.
Among things Ornato told the committee in Jan:
-Trump may not have known Pence was in the Capitol when he tweeted his 2:24pm attack on the VP. That's partly because, Ornato said, he had told Meadows (incorrectly) that Pence had been evacuated to his residence.
The panel also asked Ornato whether Trump could have more forecfully told rioters to go home at 3:13pm, when he instead urged them to "remain peaceful" (the violence had gone on for hours).
Ornato said Trump had done everything he could and nothing he did/said would have helped.
Details from Ornato's first interview come amid an effort by the committee to portray him as unreliable. Anonymously sourced reports suggest Ornato is prepared to testify that a key element of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was false -- but Ornato has not spoken publicly yet.
zoonation
Footballguy
I’ve got some swamp land to sell you if you believe Trump tries to get the NG to protect the Capitol. Wow.
The General
Footballguy
You typically don't get people arguing that inflation isn't high, Biden trolling on Twitter creating countless topics, or folks pumping up Biden as some action figure. I think that contributes quite a bit.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Well there you go. You answered your question. Part of Trump's crazyness was by design I assume.
People then arguing he didn't really mean this or that or he didn't really say he wanted to overturn the election it generates posts.
ZADO
Footballguy
ZADO
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
There were something like 60 lawsuits that were all tossed, numerous recounts, etc.
What else are you looking for?
ZADO
Footballguy
i already explained im not thinking about the last election anymore, im looking forward
The General
Footballguy
With that mindset do you put equal value into the thinking that "the election was stolen" with hearings to investigating Trump's role in attempting to overturn the election as well as the Jan 6th riots?
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
How about we don't call Ornato because it's slightly more important the whole Trump trying to overthrow the country than worrying about every detail of another one of his temper tantrums.
ZADO
Footballguy
Ive been invested in Trump as i voted for him so im somewhat interested in the outcome of the hearings and what they can prove or not prove , while i believe some of the testimony i also think there is some added ''flavor'' for effect . This commision does not want Trump to be able to run in 2024 and they are pulling out all the stops . Im waiting for the all the evidence before i make a stance,but if he is guilty ill call him guilty ,if it looks like what ive explained in the other post than i want everyone to move on .
The General
Footballguy
Fair enough.
Although I am not really sure what else needs to be proven (and Trump continues to say the election was stolen from him).
This person shouldn't be allowed to run for or hold a position in our Government.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems plenty of evidence has been presented in both impeachments…thus far by the committee…and just overall as far as how awful a person he is and unfit for office.
Guilty? What will it take for you to call him that? A conviction only?
massraider
Footballguy
Went to court 60 plus times, and nothing, but you still don't accept. You have questions. Some things look shady.
Meantime, if they had anything on Trump, it would be in court, like that's the final word.
Hey, if they tried Trump 60 times in court, and didn't find anything, and I still had questions, what would you say?
BladeRunner
Footballguy
dozer
Footballguy
ZADO
Footballguy
ZADO
Footballguy
They got Nixon in one shot , they had enough to make him resign . Trump fought back and was acquitted ...twice no less .
Either he`s the real teflon Don or he wasnt guilty ''enough'' to get him to follow Nixons footsteps .
Is court the end all be all< hell no and i never said that. If a crime is committed and you can prove it in court then do so and take your best shot. Clearly whatever fraud they were seeking to expose wasnt enough to warrant a courtrooms attention. Doesnt mean fraud isnt a real thing . I already said i didnt think there was enough to win trump the election
The General
Footballguy
Nixon resigned, right?
In any case Trump’s second impeachment he survived because he was no longer Prez at least that’s the line Mitch used.
That’s some crazy thinking in my mind and obviously hyper-partisan.
The Commish
Footballguy
We passed Nixon level of proof with the "All I need you to say is the election was stolen and me and the GOP reps will take care of the rest" comment.
ETA: The only meaningful difference between the two is with Nixon it was on tape and Trump's comments are corroborated by several people all on the call/meeting when he said it.
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massraider
Footballguy
Excellent point. I have a feeling we'll be seeing SS agents not named Engel or Ornato under oath first, but I may well be wrong too.
The General
Footballguy
People being held accountable is a poor standard with which to determine guilt.
Lots of guilty people out there walk.
Lots of guilty people out there walk.
massraider
Footballguy
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
It's tough to be held accountable when those who should be doing the holding are more worried about their political careers than justice.
The General
Footballguy
That is definitely part of it. Like the argument look at this fake show hearing they are having….when they refused to be involved in one.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
It's over. He's innocent. These failures are running a clown show for bigger clowns watching at home.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
This is the equivalent of clueless Bill Barr saying there wasn't enough fraud a month after the big steal.
But we have a much clearer picture now don't we? #2kmules
massraider
Footballguy
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
The D party over the last 5 years has all but destroyed this country and have 4-6 more months of destruction ahead. The Russia hoax, the Covid lies, and a stolen election will forever be a stain on America. Not to mention horrible policies.
sho nuff
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
ZADO
Footballguy
Then this hearing should be a slam dunkWe passed Nixon level of proof with the "All I need you to say is the election was stolen and me and the GOP reps will take care of the rest" comment.
ETA: The only meaningful difference between the two is with Nixon it was on tape and Trump's comments are corroborated by several people all on the call/meeting when he said it.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
The documentary that has the D party so terrified they're using all their power to discredit, which thankfully has been unsuccessful so far.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
you're trying way to hard. Maybe take the gang troll off and put on some lighter gear.
The General
Footballguy
?
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Nobody is terrified of that bogus “documentary “. Its been discredited because its absolutely ridiculous and devoid of facts and evidence supporting its so called conclusions.
The General
Footballguy
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I believe in a lot of things. There is a thread about that farce of a movie. I suggest you take your belief there.
