****OFFICIAL**** 2008 Washington Redskins Off Season Thread! (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Spagnuolo interviews with the Redskins tomorrow.

I've heard reports saying it's today and reports saying it's tomorrow.

Why would he want to interview today? He's still hung over.

 

[TankRizzo]

That's a bit unfair to Gibbs. Maybe he actually believes that, and even if he doesn't how would it be constructive to come out and bash the team?

I don't think Gibbs has ever said anything bad about anyone. IMO, all of this is a foregone connclusion, Fassel is as good as hired. The only way I see anyone else even cutting into his lead is if they come in and do nothing but kiss Snyder's butt. This whole process has been an embarrassment.

 

[redman]

That's a bit unfair to Gibbs. Maybe he actually believes that, and even if he doesn't how would it be constructive to come out and bash the team?

I don't think Gibbs has ever said anything bad about anyone. IMO, all of this is a foregone connclusion, Fassel is as good as hired. The only way I see anyone else even cutting into his lead is if they come in and do nothing but kiss Snyder's butt. This whole process has been an embarrassment.

We're assuming Clayton's reports are right about Mooch not being in the running anymore? I don't know what to make of those. As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job. I really don't want Fassell.

 

[dgreen]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

 

[redman]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

 

[TankRizzo]

We're assuming Clayton's reports are right about Mooch not being in the running anymore? I don't know what to make of those. As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job. I really don't want Fassell.

Remember when it was leaked that Rosie O'donnell might be Bob Barker's replacement on the price is right and everyone flipped out and then Drew Carey didn't seem so bad in comparison? That's what I felt like was happening with Fassel, but the fact that his name is STILL in the top considerations just leaves me feeling uneasy. Even after he whined that he felt "used". Fassel just seems like the perfect puppet willing to do whatever the danny wants.

 

[dgreen]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

I think people change their minds much quicker. There are no guarantees that he'll once again be in charge of a top defense. And, next year, he'll have to compete with 2008's hot coordinators.

 

[redman]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

I think people change their minds much quicker. There are no guarantees that he'll once again be in charge of a top defense. And, next year, he'll have to compete with 2008's hot coordinators.

Here's the thing though- even if we hire him, don't you think that this situation is geared for failure with a staff that has to feel as accountable directly to Snyder than Spags - if not moreso - given that it was Snyder and not Spags who hired them? At a minimum I'd think he'd want control over his own defensive staff, and yet that's the very staff that is already completely constructed (the QB and RB coaching spots are vacant at present). This is just a mess.

 

[dgreen]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

I think people change their minds much quicker. There are no guarantees that he'll once again be in charge of a top defense. And, next year, he'll have to compete with 2008's hot coordinators.

Here's the thing though- even if we hire him, don't you think that this situation is geared for failure with a staff that has to feel as accountable directly to Snyder than Spags - if not moreso - given that it was Snyder and not Spags who hired them? At a minimum I'd think he'd want control over his own defensive staff, and yet that's the very staff that is already completely constructed (the QB and RB coaching spots are vacant at present). This is just a mess.

Well, of course.

 

[fatness]

Remember when it was leaked that Rosie O'donnell might be Bob Barker's replacement on the price is right and everyone flipped out and then Drew Carey didn't seem so bad in comparison?

This requires an answer: No, I honestly don't remember that. And if I did I'd never admit it.

 

[redman]

Remember when it was leaked that Rosie O'donnell might be Bob Barker's replacement on the price is right and everyone flipped out and then Drew Carey didn't seem so bad in comparison?

This requires an answer: No, I honestly don't remember that. And if I did I'd never admit it.

 

[DCThunder]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

I think people change their minds much quicker. There are no guarantees that he'll once again be in charge of a top defense. And, next year, he'll have to compete with 2008's hot coordinators.

Here's the thing though- even if we hire him, don't you think that this situation is geared for failure with a staff that has to feel as accountable directly to Snyder than Spags - if not moreso - given that it was Snyder and not Spags who hired them? At a minimum I'd think he'd want control over his own defensive staff, and yet that's the very staff that is already completely constructed (the QB and RB coaching spots are vacant at present). This is just a mess.

If Spagnulo came in and "blew them away" (in the immortal words of Abe Pollin about Gar Heard) and Spags wanted his own DC, I'm willing to wager that Blache would take his money and quietely retire to his farm or whereever. Blache doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would make a stink over something like that, so long as he got paid, and God knows, Danny's good at that.If Spags did get hired, I'd be more worried about the offensive side of the ball. A rookie OC in Zorn with a defensive minded HC isn't ideal, at least not in a normal world. In Bizarro Skins World, it may be normal, who knows for sure.

 

[redman]

As I've said before Spagnuolo is the perfect kind of guy - a coordinator on the rise - to hire but by hiring the entire staff around him I can't imagine he'd take this job.

But maybe Spagnuolo will also realize that HC offers aren't guaranteed every year. If he turns down the offer and his D declines next year, he may never get another serious interview again.

I don't know about that. It would be different if he were an anonymous coordinator for the Falcons or something, but this guy's defensive unit just knocked the Pats on their ### and was primarily responsible for a very unlikely win. I'd say he'll be a hot commodity for a while.

I think people change their minds much quicker. There are no guarantees that he'll once again be in charge of a top defense. And, next year, he'll have to compete with 2008's hot coordinators.

Here's the thing though- even if we hire him, don't you think that this situation is geared for failure with a staff that has to feel as accountable directly to Snyder than Spags - if not moreso - given that it was Snyder and not Spags who hired them? At a minimum I'd think he'd want control over his own defensive staff, and yet that's the very staff that is already completely constructed (the QB and RB coaching spots are vacant at present). This is just a mess.

If Spagnulo came in and "blew them away" (in the immortal words of Abe Pollin about Gar Heard) and Spags wanted his own DC, I'm willing to wager that Blache would take his money and quietely retire to his farm or whereever. Blache doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would make a stink over something like that, so long as he got paid, and God knows, Danny's good at that.If Spags did get hired, I'd be more worried about the offensive side of the ball. A rookie OC in Zorn with a defensive minded HC isn't ideal, at least not in a normal world. In Bizarro Skins World, it may be normal, who knows for sure.

Well, Zorn's highly regarded so we just have to go with that. There are no guarantees in life. I'm more concerned about Spags getting undercut on his own side of the ball, though as I said it's not good news that he wasn't involved in the hiring of the staff on either side. This all may be academic anyway as Mooch or *shudder* Fassell may be the hire.

 

[dgreen]

If Spags did get hired, I'd be more worried about the offensive side of the ball. A rookie OC in Zorn with a defensive minded HC isn't ideal, at least not in a normal world. In Bizarro Skins World, it may be normal, who knows for sure.

Agreed. I think conventional wisdom says they'll go offense for their HC since Zorn isn't as established as Blache and the defensive staff.

 

[fatness]

Here's the thing though- even if we hire him, don't you think that this situation is geared for failure with a staff that has to feel as accountable directly to Snyder than Spags - if not moreso - given that it was Snyder and not Spags who hired them? At a minimum I'd think he'd want control over his own defensive staff, and yet that's the very staff that is already completely constructed (the QB and RB coaching spots are vacant at present).

It's a dangerous setup for a new coach to walk into, yes. But if (and this is a big "if") Spagnuolo is hired, gets along OK with Blache and Zorn, and gets backing from the front office the first time push comes to shove, it could work.

It. Could. Work!

 

[fatness]

New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo will interview with Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder and executive vice president Vinny Cerrato tomorrow for the team's vacant coaching position.

Spagnuolo will become the sixth and, sources with knowledge of the situation said, final candidate to interview for the job. The Redskins could end their long-running search for a replacement for coach Joe Gibbs as early as Wednesday.

Contrary to previous reports, former San Francisco 49ers and Detroit Lions coach Steve Mariucci wasn't interviewed here yesterday. An NFL source said Snyder and Cerrato met with Mariucci four days earlier.

Washington Times

 

[fatness]

Spagnuolo avoided being dictatorial when he came to the Giants. He sought the advice of the returning assistants, and spent the first weeks on the job listening to their thoughts and ideas.

Inheriting a staff wouldn't be an ideal situation for some assistants, but Spagnuolo viewed it as a positive.

"In some regards, when that happens you're relieved of having to go find (coaches)," he said. "It didn't take long for me to realize that I was lucky they all stayed, in all truthfulness."

While keeping some elements of the Giants defense, Spagnuolo implemented his own ideas, which is why Tom Coughlin hired him.

Link

 

[TankRizzo]

stop trying to get my hopes up that it won't be Fassel, damn it!

 

[fatness]

Well if you want to keep your mind off of it, here's a great big Conspiracy Theory about why Cerrato was promoted.

 

[dgreen]

Apparently Gregg Williams has interviewed with Dallas.

Link

After going from a favorite for the Washington Redskins head coaching job to being fired, Gregg Williams may land on his feet.

Dallas media reported on Sunday that the former Redskins defensive coordinator interviewed with the Cowboys for a role on their staff.

The former Buffalo Bills head coach interviewed numerous times for the head coaching position with the Redskins but was ultimately let go last week by owner Daniel Snyder.

The current Cowboys defensive coordinator is Brian Stewart. Reports out of Dallas also said that longtime NFL coach Dom Capers interviewed for a position on the defensive staff. It's not clear which roles Capers or Williams would fill.

 

[southeastjerome]

I read over at CPND that Mooch picked the Redskins as next year's super bowl winners on the nfl network post game. Not sure if anyone saw it, just thought that was interesting.

 

[dgreen]

John Clayton still sticking with his Fassel prediction on Mike and Mike this morning.

 

[fatness]

Off-topic, but Czaban really latched onto the NFL/Patriots cheating and film destruction issue this morning, and he was at his best. Not ranting and raving, but asking solid questions about what's being covered up.

 

[fatness]

Redskins Will Meet Giants' Spagnuolo

The Washington Redskins are scheduled to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo today for their vacant head-coaching position, league sources said, with the rising star the last of their candidates.

Williams (since fired by the team), Meeks and Fassel had multiple interviews, with the team outlining the parameters of a contract with Fassel but never offering him the job. League sources believed him to be the leading candidate entering Sunday's game.

Meeks last spoke to team officials a week ago and remains hopeful about the position, league sources said. Spagnuolo is expected to take part in the Giants' victory parade in New York today, while Snyder will be at Redskins Park in the afternoon for a news conference with former Redskins Darrell Green and Art Monk, both of whom were voted into the Hall of Fame on Saturday. The interview is scheduled for afterward.

Sessions with Snyder often last upward of 12 hours, with some candidates spending the night in his guest house before resuming talks the following morning.

Another sleepover!

 

[fatness]

Spagnuolo has three things to consider if an offer from the Redskins materializes:

• The hot-cold nature of NFL assistants in general and defensive coordinators in particular. Spagnuolo should look no further than Gregg Williams. Two years ago, Williams was on the short lists for jobs in St. Louis and Minnesota, but he signed a record contract to remain with the Redskins. The next season, Washington was 31st in yards allowed. This year, the interview process fell apart, and he was fired. If the Giants, through injuries or ineffectiveness, fall apart next season defensively, Spagnuolo's stock will drop.

• Staying with a stable organization, which has a talented core and just won the Super Bowl. Giants coach Tom Coughlin, 61, is expected to sign a multiyear extension. New York doesn't have a tradition of giving its assistants big raises, but the Mara and Tisch families might have to make Spagnuolo an exception or risk losing him to a division rival. It's not out of the question to include some contract language naming him as Coughlin's eventual successor.

• He's going to a team whose coordinators are already in place. Jim Zorn (offense) and Greg Blache (defense) have been hired, and the only opening is for a defensive line coach. This issue, the league source said, is a nonissue. In 2002, Jon Gruden left Oakland for Tampa Bay and inherited nearly the entire staff.

Washington Times

 

[DCThunder]

Redskins Will Meet Giants' Spagnuolo

The Washington Redskins are scheduled to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo today for their vacant head-coaching position, league sources said, with the rising star the last of their candidates.

Williams (since fired by the team), Meeks and Fassel had multiple interviews, with the team outlining the parameters of a contract with Fassel but never offering him the job. League sources believed him to be the leading candidate entering Sunday's game.

Meeks last spoke to team officials a week ago and remains hopeful about the position, league sources said. Spagnuolo is expected to take part in the Giants' victory parade in New York today, while Snyder will be at Redskins Park in the afternoon for a news conference with former Redskins Darrell Green and Art Monk, both of whom were voted into the Hall of Fame on Saturday. The interview is scheduled for afterward.

Sessions with Snyder often last upward of 12 hours, with some candidates spending the night in his guest house before resuming talks the following morning.

Another sleepover!

Oh boy, another chance for Danny to play Madden 2008 with a real, live NFL coach. It gets boring for him to just beat Vinny.Also, there's a nice, unpretenious Italian restaurant in Potomac Village, not to far from La Casa d'Snyder. They can go have a nosh before moving out to Danny's for nightcaps and Play Station. Oh and American Idol's on tonight too. What a night!

 

[fatness]

Is there a Chuck E Cheese nearby?

 

[redman]

Redskins Will Meet Giants' Spagnuolo

The Washington Redskins are scheduled to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo today for their vacant head-coaching position, league sources said, with the rising star the last of their candidates.

Williams (since fired by the team), Meeks and Fassel had multiple interviews, with the team outlining the parameters of a contract with Fassel but never offering him the job. League sources believed him to be the leading candidate entering Sunday's game.

Meeks last spoke to team officials a week ago and remains hopeful about the position, league sources said. Spagnuolo is expected to take part in the Giants' victory parade in New York today, while Snyder will be at Redskins Park in the afternoon for a news conference with former Redskins Darrell Green and Art Monk, both of whom were voted into the Hall of Fame on Saturday. The interview is scheduled for afterward.

Sessions with Snyder often last upward of 12 hours, with some candidates spending the night in his guest house before resuming talks the following morning.

Another sleepover!

Oh boy, another chance for Danny to play Madden 2008 with a real, live NFL coach. It gets boring for him to just beat Vinny.Also, there's a nice, unpretenious Italian restaurant in Potomac Village, not to far from La Casa d'Snyder. They can go have a nosh before moving out to Danny's for nightcaps and Play Station. Oh and American Idol's on tonight too. What a night!

God we're jaded!

 

[dgreen]

Is there a Chuck E Cheese nearby?

I think Snyder's reserved a party at Build-a-Bear.

 

[fatness]

Is there a Chuck E Cheese nearby?

I think Snyder's reserved a party at Build-a-Bear.

There's one in McLean.

The Party Leader will help Guests select animals, clothing, and accessories players, coaches, and uniforms in the price range you choose.

You set the price!

More here.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Lord have mercy...can you tell that all of us are going a lil stir crazy in this prolonged search?

 

[TankRizzo]

Lord have mercy...can you tell that all of us are going a lil stir crazy in this prolonged search?

Stir crazy is what we were BEFORE Fassel's name was thrown out. I think we're all teetering on the verge of lunacy right now.

 

[DCThunder]

Lord have mercy...can you tell that all of us are going a lil stir crazy in this prolonged search?

Stir crazy is what we were BEFORE Fassel's name was thrown out. I think we're all teetering on the verge of lunacy right now.

If we're going crazy, think of what must be going on over at Extreme Skins.

 

[SR388]

Just heard on 980 that Byner will stay on as RB's coach.

So you got that goin for ya!

 

[DCThunder]

Just heard on 980 that Byner will stay on as RB's coach.So you got that goin for ya!

That's a surprise. I figured he was Tampa Bay bound.

 

[redman]

Just heard on 980 that Byner will stay on as RB's coach.So you got that goin for ya!

I like Byner as a player and as a person, but I honestly have no feel for how good he is as a RB coach. Did he ever even play in a WCO?

 

[TankRizzo]

Lord have mercy...can you tell that all of us are going a lil stir crazy in this prolonged search?

Stir crazy is what we were BEFORE Fassel's name was thrown out. I think we're all teetering on the verge of lunacy right now.

If we're going crazy, think of what must be going on over at Extreme Skins.

I post over there as well, I just come here when I need a breather when I read about how Vinny and Danny are really geniuses and everyone else is an idiot who doesn't own a football team.

 

[redman]

Lord have mercy...can you tell that all of us are going a lil stir crazy in this prolonged search?

Stir crazy is what we were BEFORE Fassel's name was thrown out. I think we're all teetering on the verge of lunacy right now.

If we're going crazy, think of what must be going on over at Extreme Skins.

I post over there as well, I just come here when I need a breather when I read about how Vinny and Danny are really geniuses and everyone else is an idiot who doesn't own a football team.

It's good for up to the minute news/rumors and the occasional in depth discussion about a Redskins topic, but mostly it's just hysteria that gets old fast.

 

[DCThunder]

I think there was a posting at ES that Greggggggg has signed to be the Jax DC. I haven't seen anything here, so that may not be so.

 

[southeastjerome]

I think there was a posting at ES that Greggggggg has signed to be the Jax DC. I haven't seen anything here, so that may not be so.

I read the same thing on CPND. I guess a Jacksonville radio station is reporting it. At least that's the rumor.

 

[redman]

I think there was a posting at ES that Greggggggg has signed to be the Jax DC. I haven't seen anything here, so that may not be so.

I read the same thing on CPND. I guess a Jacksonville radio station is reporting it. At least that's the rumor.

Local DC channel 4 reported it on Sunday, though the report looks to be premature if not outright wrong. I haven't heard of other reports.

 

[Kinger]

I read over at CPND that Mooch picked the Redskins as next year's super bowl pool winners on the nfl network post game.

Fixed.I'm waiting for the announcement that Zorn isn't just the OC, but the QB as well.

 

[fatness]

Various stuff from LaCanfora. I sure am glad I have the Jacksonville defense in several dyansty leagues.

Posted at 2:56 PM ET, 02/ 5/2008

Gregg Williams To Jacksonville Almost Done

League sources said the sides have agreed to terms but are still hasing out some minor details and the former boss of the Skins defense has not yet signed with the Jags.

From what I am hearing it'll be done by dinner time, however.

Posted at 1:06 PM ET, 02/ 5/2008

Spags And Snyder Already Communicating

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder began courting New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo last night, league sources said, when the men engaged in a phone conversation. By Wednesday morning they will become much better acquainted.

Spagnuolo is set to fly to Dulles in a few hours, after the Giants parade concludes, and he will begin formally interviewing for the head coaching position tonight after Snyder completes a press conference at Redskins Park with Art Monk and Darrell Green. Spagnuolo's session is scheduled to continue into Wednesday, league sources said, and he is very excited about this opportunity.

As I pointed out in today's story, the staff issues that come with hiring a head coach last are not the end of the world in this case and they could work around much of that. If the Redskins decide that Spagnuolo is their man, then I think there would be ample mutual attraction to get a deal done.

There you have it folks: Snyder is looking for a gay lover. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[dgreen]

There you have it folks: Snyder is looking for a gay lover. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Smithers...I mean Vinny...is going to be pissed.

 

[TankRizzo]

There you have it folks: Snyder is looking for a gay lover. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Smithers...I mean Vinny...is going to be pissed.

 

[buster c]

I just don't care anymore

 

[fatness]

Associated Press

Still basking in euphoria from a victory on American sport's biggest stage, the New York Giants defensive coordinator arrived in the Washington area Tuesday to interview for the Redskins' coaching vacancy. No audition tape was necessary; the defense's performance in Sunday's 17-14 upset of the New England Patriots pretty much speaks for itself.

"I think they're pretty good," Snyder said. "It was a very interesting game. To see what I consider the most explosive offense I've seen in years and years to just be slowed down like that was quite impressive." Snyder was making a rare public comment on the coaching search at his own celebratory event, a reception marking the selection of former Redskins Art Monk and Darrell Green into the Hall of Fame. Snyder said he anticipates his team playing in the Hall of Fame game in Canton, Ohio, this summer.

After the reception, Snyder was planning to head home to meet with Spagnuolo. "We're going back to work tonight," Snyder said. "And hopefully we'll be making the right decision in the very near future."

Spagnuolo and Snyder spoke by phone for 90 minutes Monday night, and the conversation went well, according to two people familiar with the Redskins selection process who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the team has preferred to keep the details private.

Spagnuolo attended Tuesday's parade in New York, where he and the other Giants coaches and players received keys to the city. He was then picked up in one of Snyder's planes and flown to Washington for face-to-face talks that would begin late in the day and were to continue Wednesday morning, according to the two people familiar with the process.

In between, Spagnuolo was to spend the night at a guesthouse on Snyder's property, receiving the same treatment given several other contenders for the job.

 

[fatness]

Spagnuolo is extremely interested in the Redskins job, league sources said, despite Washington's unusual decision to hire its new offensive and defensive coordinators and fill most of its coaching staff before picking a head coach.

link

 

[DCThunder]

You guys read the thread over at ES where someone posted an article from NY Newsday about how Antonio Pierce is trying to convince Spags to stay with the Giants, including leading a "Redskins Suck" chant at the victory parade yesterday? Supposedly Pierce has been telling Spags about all the underhanded things that Danny allegedly did to him and there's speculation that the Giants will throw a boat load of money at Spags to get him to stay.

Let's hope the night in the Redskins Theme Room at L'Casa de Snyder and the smiley face banana pancakes for breakfast are enough to turn the trick and get Spags as our coach.

 

[fatness]

I'll bet those boys were up until all hours of the night getting into god-knows-what kind of mischief.