Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Ummm, what!?
I don't like that pick at all.
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****OFFICIAL**** 2008 Washington Redskins Off Season Thread! (2 Viewers)
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Ummm, what!?
I don't like that pick at all.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Here comes the 2-TE formations....
Swing 51
Footballguy
I hope Philly doesn't #### us!!
TankRizzo
Footballguy
I havn't paid attention, do we still have Yoder?
Swing 51
Footballguy
nice, DeSean Jackson
jenja
Footballguy
Sigh, I was so thrilled with us trading down, taking Thomas...but now I am just plain confused. Not sure why we go this high on a TE when we have Cooley and we have so many other needs on defense!!!!!!!Ummm, what!?I don't like that pick at all.
Maroney=Sped
Footballguy
. . . yup . . . to Arizona.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Do you guys think we would of went Trevor Laws if the Beagles didn't take him before us
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Sidewinder16
Footballguy
I would have hoped so.Now I can only hope that Quentin Groves will be the pick here. [please, please, please...]
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TankRizzo
Footballguy
Wow.. . . yup . . . to Arizona.
If he was on their board at all this is just sad. Where was davis projected to go?
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Holy crap
:shakeshead:
:shakeshead:
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
:finger: to the Redskins BRass
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Thanks Fatness my sig from you says it all!
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
All those picks and no OL or DL help.
:sigh:
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
J.Campbell owners, sell as late in the season as you can.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Gregg Williams reaping the rewards of the 'Skins horrible selecting.
Jags trade up to get Groves.
Jags trade up to get Groves.
Yamato
Footballguy
Guys...Cerrato just screwed us. Be prepared for a top 10 pick in next years draft to make up for these worthless lumps. Im just glad that Philly didnt get Campbell or Groves and they would rub our noses in this.
not sure why the gloom and doom here. Campbell needs weapons. He'll definitely have them now. Teams have to score points to win. The D was improved last year. Now the offense should be better, and deeper too. I'm actually happy with the picks. They found very good talent late last year. I'm hopeful they can do it again.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
We'll get to check out what we missed in Groves when we play Jax the final preseason week.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
How will Campbell be able to use all those weapons when half of them have to be on the sideline on any given down? How do you get all those guys (the new ones plus the old ones) on the field at once?not sure why the gloom and doom here. Campbell needs weapons. He'll definitely have them now. Teams have to score points to win. The D was improved last year. Now the offense should be better, and deeper too. I'm actually happy with the picks. They found very good talent late last year. I'm hopeful they can do it again.
I think you guys are jumping the gun here. Cerrato said they were going to draft the best player available. And based on the results, I believe it. But the WR position is suddenly very crowded now.I have never heard of Fred Davis. I hope he's a really good TE, worthy of a 2nd round pick. Maybe Cambell and Grove just did not grade out very high for the Redskins.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
They have these games on saturday's its called college football. He won the Mackey award. There was a great TE for the Colts, they named the award after him.
Yamato
Footballguy
When the skins traded with Atl I was saying Campbell and Groves late in the second. The fact that they could have gotten both is pathetic. The jags traded up to get Groves right after Cerrato picked. I will be watching both this players this coming year and maybe everyone else should as well. And when the 3 receivers we got combine for 700 yards/4 TDs and Groves ends up being a star maybe Cerrato will fine green pastures elsewhere.
Yamato
Footballguy
All the GMs that need OLBs that drafted in the second round and didnt get him shouldnt be excussed for not drafting him. How old is Marcus Washington. How much time has he mised in recent years? How healthy is McIntosh? Hello!So should all the other GMs who passed on Groves up to that point be excused for passing on him?
Of course, it could turn out the other way. Davis and Kelley would end up being solid starters for 10 years while Groves and Campbell could be duds. No one really knows. But GMs are paid to have opinions and act of them. Our opininos are freebies.It will be interesting to watch and compare their careers though.
Yamato
Footballguy
Did anyone else see in the April 21st Sporting News who they said was the most explosve defensive player in this years draft? Thats right...Quentin Groves. Im not saying they are the authority but if any national publication makes a remark like that it should mean the guy is worth a late 2nd round pick to a team who needs OLBs
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Based on the madness of the results, I agree, too (that BPA was being strictly adhered to). But to stick to BPA to the detriment of a team's two most glaring needs (youth and depth on OL and DL) is pretty ridiculous.I'll admit, I'm having a knee jerk reaction. I'll even grant the possibility that 5 years from now we could be heralding this as the greatest 'Skins draft ever. But right now, I'm not seeing it. At all.
The Devin Thomas pick makes sense. Davis and Kelly, in those spots, do not.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I think all the picks were nice value picks, but not for the same team. 2 WRs and a TE?
fatness
Footballguy
Devin Thomas was a steal where he was drafted. Davis actually sounds OK from this article in the Post.
But what the hell is the fascination with Kelly? Does he have nude pictures of Cerrato & Snyder or something? They should have addressed one line or the other with that third pick, and perhaps with the second as well.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I'm guessing Thomas and Kelly were the top 2 wr's on the Skins board. Surely Davis was their #1 te. From a BPA perspective, they executed perfectly.
Personally, I have Groves rated above the latter 2 guys. He's arguably the best pass rusher in the draft. Wish we would of taken him instead of either Davis or Kelly.
All things considered, I'm pretty happy considering the fact we rumored to pick Kelly at #21 going in. Tomorrow, they need to focus on the lines. Hopefully some lineman of value will drop to us in the 3rd.
Personally, I have Groves rated above the latter 2 guys. He's arguably the best pass rusher in the draft. Wish we would of taken him instead of either Davis or Kelly.
All things considered, I'm pretty happy considering the fact we rumored to pick Kelly at #21 going in. Tomorrow, they need to focus on the lines. Hopefully some lineman of value will drop to us in the 3rd.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Look on the bright side, fellas - the results of this Draft almost guar-an-tee Vinnie Cerrato is one step closer to being fired...
...we're going to have to go through one hell of a Season before it happens, but good news is good news, and I think in the long term.
I seriously can't believe this.
I can't wait to see Groves getting some serious PT in Preseason Game 5...and absolutely DRILLING people all over the field!
Unfortunately, they're going to be wearing the wrong colored uni's. Greg is going to absolutely sic his dogs on us, and we're going to pay...in blood.
So, my close friend who works for the Redskins actually got the nod from the Team to go to Manhattan and sit at the 'skins table, taking the calls from the War Room and filling out the Pick Cards that get submitted.
I'm heading up tomorrow for my 5th Annual Trip To The Draft (Couldn't go today, because it's my Easter).
I had to call him tonight and basically swear on everything I hold sacred that I will not have ANY conversation with him regarding the Redskins Day One selections until we get back home and can speak privately...
...only because he knew after every pick they made that I was going absolutely ballistic down here.
I seriously can't believe this.
Mediocrity...what a concept!
...we're going to have to go through one hell of a Season before it happens, but good news is good news, and I think in the long term.
I seriously can't believe this.
I can't wait to see Groves getting some serious PT in Preseason Game 5...and absolutely DRILLING people all over the field!
Unfortunately, they're going to be wearing the wrong colored uni's. Greg is going to absolutely sic his dogs on us, and we're going to pay...in blood.
So, my close friend who works for the Redskins actually got the nod from the Team to go to Manhattan and sit at the 'skins table, taking the calls from the War Room and filling out the Pick Cards that get submitted.
I'm heading up tomorrow for my 5th Annual Trip To The Draft (Couldn't go today, because it's my Easter).
I had to call him tonight and basically swear on everything I hold sacred that I will not have ANY conversation with him regarding the Redskins Day One selections until we get back home and can speak privately...
...only because he knew after every pick they made that I was going absolutely ballistic down here.
I seriously can't believe this.
Mediocrity...what a concept!
nittanylion
Footballguy
...and now the Kiss of Death - Kiper just fully endorsed the Redskins' Day 1 Selections.
Oh, joy.
Oh, joy.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Yep said the Skins are his winner from today. And VC did a great job.
nittanylion
Footballguy
...and we're not out of the woods yet in regards to Chad Johnson...
...from NFL.com's Analysis Write-Up of Malcolm Kelly:
Compares To: LARRY FITZGERALD-Arizona...Like Fitzgerald, Kelly takes advantage of his size and strength to break arm tackles rather than trying to get fancy with moves when trying to separate. Both have some of the best natural hands in the game, as Kelly was charted with only one dropped pass in the last two years. Perhaps due to the team's reliance on the running game, he will disappear for stretches on the field. But when he gets into that rhythm he will catch everything in site. Some teams might prefer Indiana's James Hardy, but Kelly is a more natural receiver and comes with no off-field baggage...
...and the damning final statement:
Could be a perfect fit in Cincinnati with Carson Palmer if Cincinnati trades Chad Johnson.
...from NFL.com's Analysis Write-Up of Malcolm Kelly:
Compares To: LARRY FITZGERALD-Arizona...Like Fitzgerald, Kelly takes advantage of his size and strength to break arm tackles rather than trying to get fancy with moves when trying to separate. Both have some of the best natural hands in the game, as Kelly was charted with only one dropped pass in the last two years. Perhaps due to the team's reliance on the running game, he will disappear for stretches on the field. But when he gets into that rhythm he will catch everything in site. Some teams might prefer Indiana's James Hardy, but Kelly is a more natural receiver and comes with no off-field baggage...
...and the damning final statement:
Could be a perfect fit in Cincinnati with Carson Palmer if Cincinnati trades Chad Johnson.
Maroney=Sped
Footballguy
Ok, I'll give you guys some hope - They need WR's and they got two guys with nice upside with size that fit into the WCO. That makes sense.
The one pick you can really question is Davis, especially with Campbell on the board, but this was obviously done for some reasons relating to Zorn's offense, and maybe something they didn't like about Calais Campbell). Fred Davis is another Cooley IMHO. He's a very smooth route runner and receiver. I think that pairing him with Cooley will be a dangerous combo for a while, and the WCO is nothing if not a TE-featuring offense.
Finally, they have six more picks in the last five rounds. There's plenty of room for picking linemen or whatever it is you'd want them to pick.
The one pick you can really question is Davis, especially with Campbell on the board, but this was obviously done for some reasons relating to Zorn's offense, and maybe something they didn't like about Calais Campbell). Fred Davis is another Cooley IMHO. He's a very smooth route runner and receiver. I think that pairing him with Cooley will be a dangerous combo for a while, and the WCO is nothing if not a TE-featuring offense.
Finally, they have six more picks in the last five rounds. There's plenty of room for picking linemen or whatever it is you'd want them to pick.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Please just stick to your team forum. TIA!!!
