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I'll say it again...
The media is making a joke by the constant rumors... I'd rather they make the choice they feel is best, than a hasty choice that they will regret. We have no idea what their plan is and what makes you or anyone else think that we should know what they want or are supposed to do. We never knew what the heck JKC was doing, but for some reason we have to blast Dan at every chance...I see you and many others have fallen for what many of the media outlets want you to believe. There are worse owners out there.BTW - I am one that would rather they have a real GM and have felt that way for quite awhile now. Needless to say...I've never thought once about turning in my Burgandy & Gold fan card.I would say...you didn't become a fan because the owner, you shouldn't leave because the owner. Yes, he could be better, but he could be worse too...look at Al Davis, Brown in Cinci and so forth. At least he tries to improve, though sometimes misguided. Just remember he didn't ask Gibbs to step down pre-maturely. I guess you didn't see all the old timers at the HOF press conf., did you? The old school cats wouldn't respond to Danny if they didn't like him and yes, DARREL GREEN had many words of praise for Dan Snyder and even called him a friend. Oh, yeah he's terrible and especially considering all he did for S. Taylor's family and still doing for them. Yeah, renounce that...goodbye fair weather fan.
You know fatness, those things they all say about you- they're not true. You are a smart guy.
I'll say it again...The media is making a joke by the constant rumors... I'd rather they make the choice they feel is best, than a hasty choice that they will regret. We have no idea what their plan is and what makes you or anyone else think that we should know what they want or are supposed to do. We never knew what the heck JKC was doing, but for some reason we have to blast Dan at every chance...I see you and many others have fallen for what many of the media outlets want you to believe. There are worse owners out there.BTW - I am one that would rather they have a real GM and have felt that way for quite awhile now. Needless to say...I've never thought once about turning in my Burgandy & Gold fan card.I would say...you didn't become a fan because the owner, you shouldn't leave because the owner. Yes, he could be better, but he could be worse too...look at Al Davis, Brown in Cinci and so forth. At least he tries to improve, though sometimes misguided. Just remember he didn't ask Gibbs to step down pre-maturely. I guess you didn't see all the old timers at the HOF press conf., did you? The old school cats wouldn't respond to Danny if they didn't like him and yes, DARREL GREEN had many words of praise for Dan Snyder and even called him a friend. Oh, yeah he's terrible and especially considering all he did for S. Taylor's family and still doing for them. Yeah, renounce that...goodbye fair weather fan.
and a great posting above. I despise fairweather fans. "Oh the Skins suck so I won't root for them" Good, the Giants are a good team for you guys to root for since they just won the Super Bowl, of course the Patriots, and Colts should be pretty good next year, but you should wait to declare your fandom right around this time next year too. That way you can be sure you pick the winner.This past month has frustrated me, but I'll wait to see what happens before I pass judgement. Does Snyder like the attention? or is he trying to make the right decision? Is he tired of this constant flip flopping of coaches? I couldn't care less what fair weather fans, ESPN and the like think of HOW the process has gone down, so long as the right decision is made.Everyone has been complaining about how Snyder just makes knee-jerk reactions, it's not fair to criticize him too much when he seems to be taking his time to make a decision.
They could pay Adam Archuletta $10 billion and I wouldn't care. Last time I checked if your favorite team is under the cap you don't get a check in the mail.
This Topic should End Here!!!!!Good Night NOW!!!!!!
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I would be willing to chip in for an airplane-towed banner that said this over FedEx Field during the home opener.
I can recall feeling betrayed back in the late 70's when Kilmer, Hauss, McDole, Hanburger, etc were getting their pink slips. It was hard for me to come to terms with that. But a new set of guys come along who represent the home team, and you continue to root for the Skins, regardless of how ownership screws things up. I'm so not looking forward to Fassel, but who knows? It's not a guarantee he fails, is it? We must hold on to our misguided hope
Boo-f'in-hoo, the players are "unhappy" because the guy they knew and who knew them didn't get promoted. Too friggin' bad. So far as I know, all the position coaches (with a few exceptions) are still there. Bugel is still Head Hog of the O-line, Olivadotti was extended to coach the LBs and I thought that Blache was well loved, even if he's a hard ###. Bosses change all the time and the guy who's been brown-nosing the old boss for years gets "unhappy" because he has to start over with a new boss or maybe even do some "work" for a change. The guys who show up on time, play hard, do their job and keep their mouths shut have nothing to worry about. Oh yeah, and the players are getting paid a boat load of money to play a game that millions of men dream about being able to play. They need to shut up and grow up. :exasperated:
Don't be stupid. Gibbs Williams Schwartz Mora Caldwell Fassel Meeks Marriuci Spagnuolo Kiffin Fassel rules.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:reading how great Fassel is on ES.
You get my point though, right?
You don't know the power of the single wing offense! [/Vader]For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....
Don't keep falling into the hype that the media is trying to make you do. Some reporters have an agenda that is more blatant like Sally Jenkins, some just like to cast doubt in small subtle ways. Don't be a pawn! If they hire Fassel, so be it. I'll support him and the team. If they hire Mooch, so be it...I'll support them and the team. If they hire Redman, so be it...I'll supp...errr, wait a second...sorry, I got on a roll there.
For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....You get my point though, right?
My team, right or wrong! The king is dead, LONG LIVE THE KING!
Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:
Cold out today....cold yesterday.....But yeah...it's a place to realistically vent without having to watch people nervously spoon feed themselves the nastiest medecine and keep a smile on their face.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:reading how great Fassel is on ES.
Hey, what am I, chopped liver? These dang youngin's runnin' this team. Things weren't like this when George Preston Marshall owned the team and Slingin' Sam was running the offense.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:reading how great Fassel is on ES.
It's okay. Just sit back down. I'll send little Johnny to get the nurse to bring your dinner. We'll be back to visit with you next week.Hey, what am I, chopped liver? These dang youngin's runnin' this team. Things weren't like this when George Preston Marshall owned the team and Slingin' Sam was running the offense.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:
The very same thought occurred to me the last couple of days, though I didn't go back and check the number of posts. Unbelievable.
Hey, what am I, chopped liver? These dang youngin's runnin' this team. Things weren't like this when George Preston Marshall owned the team and Slingin' Sam was running the offense.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:reading how great Fassel is on ES.
Sorry GB.
Working on the theory that even a broken clock is right twice per day, and we have a clock owner who is capable of buying some extra hands and who figures to own this team for 30-40 years when it's all said and done, he'll stumble onto something and "get it right" at some point. The problem is that we don't know when or how, and in the meantime we're left
watching the ridiculous thrashing around by this ownership group as it makes inept attempts to set things right. This is Snyder's ninth season, and I see few signs that he's learned much of anything aside from the painful lessons of 2000 when he signed rented a bunch of expensive over-30 FA's for a king's ransom and achieved nothing with it. He seems to be getting the same bad advice from the same guy - Cerrato - who has been there from the beginning. That's very disheartening.
There is always that hope that some day he'll realize he's screwed up so many times and finally brings in some real life actual NFL minds, not just some cast away that no other team will have (Ceratto). Some day, maybe he'll hire a real GM. I'd rather have a guy who's actually trying though...as dimwitted as it may be. At least he's not like Mike Brown or the Bidwells just collecting those CBA checks. Or the Fords where they're married to the worst GM in the league...although as a fan of DC sports, we've been through that w/ le Bullets/Wizards.
The problem is that with the contracts some of the players have, they can force their way out of Washington by simply refusing to restructure. For instance, if Samuels and Jansen refuse to restructure, the Redskins either have to honor their contract, cut them, or trade them. Oddly enough, Springs played well enough, the Redskins may just pay him is contract and not try to restructure.
For awhile we all seemed like high school girls.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.
I think the analogy I used a couple of weeks ago was us standing around the barrel on the sidewalk with the fire going, passing around a bottle in a brown paper bag. That probably fits better.For awhile we all seemed like high school girls.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.
"OMFG I think Donnie LIKES Heather because he like walks by her classroom REEEEEEEEEAL slow and somebody told somebody he like wrote her a note OMFG how DREAMY they're like TOTALLY IN LOVE!!!"
Now we're the old guys grumbling in the barber shop. Or the old guys in the alley drinking wine, bitter because all those other guys have cars and we don't.
Quizno's Lunchtime Coordinator Jim Fassel, who interviewed for the Redskins' head coaching job the past three days, has decided to stay at Quizno's.Fassel was not offered the Redskins job but his agent Gene Simmons said "it didn't matter because his heart is in making those delicious Quizno's subs, sandwhiches, and bread soup bowls.""The Redskins were great ... it was a great interview," Simmons said.Quizno's is also giving Fassel a new three-year food contract in excess of $2 million per year, which would make him fast food's highest-paid Lunchtime Coordinator."I appreciated Mr. Snyder giving me the opportunity to visit with him," Fassel said. "I have a great deal of respect for him and the Washington Redskins organization. I was happy to have the opportunity to explore that situation, but I am equally happy to be staying at Quizno's and look forward to continued success with my beloved food stuffs. Be sure to try our new low-calorie Flatbread Sammies!"With Fassel out of the running, former local McDonald's night-shift manager Norm Weber emerges as the leading candidate to get the Redskins job.Fassel left the Washington area Wednesday night after more than 16 hours of talks over two days at owner Dan Snyder's house. He became a hot coaching commodity during the Quizno's Gourmet Bread Bowl launch, which culminated with their domination and upset of the local Taco Bell's strangle-hold on Denville, NJ's food consumers, even though he had been a lunchtime coordinator for only one season."Jim is a hard worker who has quickly earned the respect of the kitchen staff and cashiers," Quizno's CEO Greg Brenneman said. "And he has earned the consideration he is being given. Needless to say, I am happy that he will be remaining here." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- First-time Poster - Sorry if inappropriate. Thought we could all use a laugh. Please don't NNT me! And yes, I know he sold his Quizno's in 2005.
This is definitely true, although over time, the distinction between that type of owner and Snyder gets diminished the longer he continues to fail to progress as an owner. Try as he might, there is a level of ineptitude that becomes inexcusable.
Just to add on, Fassel has had some success as a head coach and he could be a good hire. The fact is, who is hot and not in the NFL is continually changing. Last year's hot names like Grimm, Singletary, Rivera did not even get interviews this year. The fact that Snyder isn't hiring a hot name does not make it a bad hire.It may all work out. It's just highly unlikely with the Redskin front office.I can recall feeling betrayed back in the late 70's when Kilmer, Hauss, McDole, Hanburger, etc were getting their pink slips. It was hard for me to come to terms with that. But a new set of guys come along who represent the home team, and you continue to root for the Skins, regardless of how ownership screws things up. I'm so not looking forward to Fassel, but who knows? It's not a guarantee he fails, is it? We must hold on to our misguided hope
Its not foul weather -- its foul people. Coach Gibbs came back, and took the skins from a bunch of guys who were just playing to get paid and made them into a band of brothers, winning as a team, playing for each other, and taking responsibility for mistakes. That is what Joe Gibbs set up over four years and especially after 21. Keeping Williams would have kept that momentum going, but......Snyder shat all over it.I won't teach my son to root for laundry, even its its burgundy and gold. The Redskins meant a certain set of values, and now they represent a different set of values -- Snyder's bullcrap values.When the weather's been foul for years and years, and it looks like its gonna get worse and stay worse for thirty more years -- Danny's likely lifespan -- its time to move on.For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....
I know it is cold today, they said it was only going to get to about 76 degrees today. Winter is harsh, I just don't know how we get by...Cold out today....cold yesterday.....But yeah...it's a place to realistically vent without having to watch people nervously spoon feed themselves the nastiest medecine and keep a smile on their face.Honestly, I've chuckled to myself thinking about the group of us regulars here in this thread- you, me fatness, dgreen, Biz, thayman, southesastjerome, Sidewinder . . . I know I'm missing a few others. We're like a bunch of old men grumbling about politics in the barber shop.Thank God this place exists. I feel like this guy:
Even if he were inclined to return, he'd say no because his top two guys have been discarded. It's not his team anymore. It's not even his offense anymore.
Yeah, keeping Pettibone after Gibbs retired the first time kept the momentum going too.Its not foul weather -- its foul people. Coach Gibbs came back, and took the skins from a bunch of guys who were just playing to get paid and made them into a band of brothers, winning as a team, playing for each other, and taking responsibility for mistakes. That is what Joe Gibbs set up over four years and especially after 21. Keeping Williams would have kept that momentum going, but......Snyder shat all over it.I won't teach my son to root for laundry, even its its burgundy and gold. The Redskins meant a certain set of values, and now they represent a different set of values -- Snyder's bullcrap values.When the weather's been foul for years and years, and it looks like its gonna get worse and stay worse for thirty more years -- Danny's likely lifespan -- its time to move on.For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....
Honestly, listen to what you're saying. I can understand having frustration, but just because it's reported that the players wanted Greg Williams doesn't mean it's the right move. I will conceed that it seemed like the logical move. Though Dan has been mis-guided several times since he's owned the team, I'm sure he's seen enough of Greg before Gibbs stepped down and after to decide that he was NOT the right person. He surely knows much more about the inner goings of Greg than we do. You can fall into the hype and think he's lost or not. That is your decision, just as anyone can look at the glass half full or half empty.I'll say this again as you point out a band of brothers and value...
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in use! Yeah, I guess Dan Snyder setting up a trust fund for Sean Taylor's daughter falls far from any values I'd look up to. Taking the proceeds from items sold (jersey, hats and etc) and it going to that fund, paying for the entire team to go to the funeral, flying the parents and family to DC, and still treating/paying for the parents and family of S. Taylor to go and stay in Hawaii for the Pro Bowl. Yep, he's a terrible man!
I'm kind of inclined to think that the decision to not promote Gregg had a lot more to do with personal differences (clashing of egos) than it did anything football related. That said, I'm ok w/ going in another direction. Gregg just made the most sense. All of the Fassel talk is just very unnerving. The one difference between the guys Marvelous mentioned (Grimm, Singletary, Rivera) and Fassel is that at least the former guys are actually still employed in the league at one level or another.Yeah, keeping Pettibone after Gibbs retired the first time kept the momentum going too.
Yeah, but if we only had a GM then Sean Taylor wouldn't have died because he'd be rehabbing in Ashburn and wouldn't have gone home and and and and. If we only had a GM...Warning...
Seems like old news right now, but I remain convinced that Snyder or someone in his inner circle (Cerrato or Swanson) smeared Gregg Williams in the media to justify not hiring him. That was the final straw for me. I can agree to disagree on personnel or coaching decisions with my team's owner, but I won't stand for personality assassination of a guy who performed well and showed nothing but loyalty. Again, I won't abandon my team, but I do agree that the organization has major problems that flow right from the top.Yeah, keeping Pettibone after Gibbs retired the first time kept the momentum going too.Its not foul weather -- its foul people. Coach Gibbs came back, and took the skins from a bunch of guys who were just playing to get paid and made them into a band of brothers, winning as a team, playing for each other, and taking responsibility for mistakes. That is what Joe Gibbs set up over four years and especially after 21. Keeping Williams would have kept that momentum going, but......Snyder shat all over it.I won't teach my son to root for laundry, even its its burgundy and gold. The Redskins meant a certain set of values, and now they represent a different set of values -- Snyder's bullcrap values.When the weather's been foul for years and years, and it looks like its gonna get worse and stay worse for thirty more years -- Danny's likely lifespan -- its time to move on.For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....Warning...
if they go that route hopefully they will go for Lombardi first.Now Bram Weinstein is saying Gibbs should come back.
Now Bram Weinstein is saying Gibbs should come back.
