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How about sons of former coaches? What's George Allen Jr doing these days?Mukaka!phrozen said:if they go that route hopefully they will go for Lombardi first.fatness said:Now Bram Weinstein is saying Gibbs should come back.Next thing you know they'll be digging up bodies searching for a head coach. "Leave no headstone unturned."
but I mean some of this stuff is ricockulous.
In all fairness, this is your perception. It could be the truth, but also could be very far from the truth. I'd also point out, that we are unaware of how loyal or disloyal someone is...not everything gets covered, especially when it's behind closed doors. Matter of fact, if it had been that sour...why did Greg Williams have nice things to say about his time in DC when he was hired by JAX? Maybe posturing, but if he had real beef with the organization...I think he follows the good ol teaching from Mom "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all."Seems like old news right now, but I remain convinced that Snyder or someone in his inner circle (Cerrato or Swanson) smeared Gregg Williams in the media to justify not hiring him. That was the final straw for me. I can agree to disagree on personnel or coaching decisions with my team's owner, but I won't stand for personality assassination of a guy who performed well and showed nothing but loyalty. Again, I won't abandon my team, but I do agree that the organization has major problems that flow right from the top.Yeah, keeping Pettibone after Gibbs retired the first time kept the momentum going too.Its not foul weather -- its foul people. Coach Gibbs came back, and took the skins from a bunch of guys who were just playing to get paid and made them into a band of brothers, winning as a team, playing for each other, and taking responsibility for mistakes. That is what Joe Gibbs set up over four years and especially after 21. Keeping Williams would have kept that momentum going, but......Snyder shat all over it.For those of you that are so depressed, you need to step away. Take a day, week or month off. Then come back...the media has got you on this merry-go-round and you are sick to your stomach. Talk about understanding why a fair weather fan is no longer a fan of our team....IS CRAZY! If they are turning in their B&G fan card over something as silly as taking their time for selecting, good riddance. Glad their true colots are showing now....
I won't teach my son to root for laundry, even its its burgundy and gold. The Redskins meant a certain set of values, and now they represent a different set of values -- Snyder's bullcrap values.
When the weather's been foul for years and years, and it looks like its gonna get worse and stay worse for thirty more years -- Danny's likely lifespan -- its time to move on.Honestly, listen to what you're saying. I can understand having frustration, but just because it's reported that the players wanted Greg Williams doesn't mean it's the right move. I will conceed that it seemed like the logical move. Though Dan has been mis-guided several times since he's owned the team, I'm sure he's seen enough of Greg before Gibbs stepped down and after to decide that he was NOT the right person. He surely knows much more about the inner goings of Greg than we do. You can fall into the hype and think he's lost or not. That is your decision, just as anyone can look at the glass half full or half empty.I'll say this again as you point out a band of brothers and value...
Warning...
ahhhh BOOOOOOOO.....we were all hoping coach Janky Spanky would get the call!
Out of the 16 names you have listed for hires in 06-07 9 were not good hires. That's better than 50%, I will be ok with all this waiting if they hire ends up being a decent one. Remeber a lot of people have been very critical of Snyder over his 9 years of ownership, he is behaving in a completely new way and going about the hiring process slowly and methodically as opposed to just hiring the hot guy (see Steve Spurrier) it could be he has learned a bit with Gibbs in town.
The more I think about it, no, I'm not worried about that. Most players know when they sign their contract with the Redskins that they'll be asked to restructure in the future, and almost all of them agree to do that. When they restructure they don't get less money, it just gets paid out and credited differently to them for salary cap accounting reasons. Players don't typically balk at restructuring, risking management's anger, for reasons involving any other player or coach. The few who do balk do it for personal reasons --- Shawn Springs refused to renegotiate last year, and I believe it was because they wanted him to take a pay cut, were talking about trading him, etc.The Redskins always succeed in having enough players renegotiate that they get under the cap, and they'll be able to do so again this year. I do think Jansen and Samuels will be asked to restructure, and if Samuels plays his cards right he should not only get a restructure but also a raise out of it. He had a fine, fine year this year; it's the best I've seen him play. The same cannot be said for Jansen, who was getting noticeably pushed around by bullrushing defensive linemen in the preseason and who was hurt all year. He may get cut outright.
Posted at 9:39 PM ET, 02/ 8/2008
John Palermo - New D Line Coach
League soruces said that Palermo, a longtime college coach with strong ties to Vinny Cerrato, signed a contract today to become the Redskins' defensive line coach. Palermo was most recently retired after spending 2007 season with Tenn. Tech. He has never coached in the NFL.
That fills out the defensive staff, which has been meeting with scouts and preparing for the draft in meetings this week led by new coordinator Greg Blache. The Redskins are expected to address defensive needs primarily in the draft, with defensive line a priority (needs at both DE and a 3-technique).
Also, former offfensive assistant Bob Sanuders will be joining his father, Al, in St. Louis.
Unbelievable. Snyder and Cerrato are freakin' idiots. It's amazing such nimrods are actually in this type of position anyway. I absolutely hate being a Skins fan right now.
Both is used because of needing two type of DL, not two DE's.Did we suddenly lose Andre Carter?
Both is used because of needing two type of DL, not two DE's.
I think I'll go grab my cup of coffee.
Well, if this was typical then I'd agree but we're usually critical because of how impulsive he is, so I'm not sure that I'm going to buy that criticism. Still, the hesitation now is ridiculous. If Spags was their choice and it didn't work out, there's no excuse at this point for not being able to name your favorite among the alternative guys - Fassel, Mooch or Meeks - withing 24 or 48 hours after that.
No 'red hot' coach in their right mind would take this job. The only job worse would be with the Raiders.
Well what are we at, 32 days? We certainly aren't getting "knee jerk" this time around. I just think with the time spent and the rumors about how Snyderatto backed off on Fassel because of fan reaction shows a lack of decision making. Like you said, hopefully its a good thing this time around.
I'm not sure I agree. Fassell is Snyder's choice from 4 years ago, whom he would have hired then if he hadn't pulled an absolute miracle and gotten Gibbs to come back. When Gibbs retired this time, and Snyder finally got it though his head that all his money couldn't keep Gibbs, he just reverted to his previous choice --- Fassell. The delay is probably due to surprise on Snyder's part at the overwhelming negative fan attitude, and the lack of a magic rabbit to pull out of his hat, not because he's been careful and considered.
I thought this was a joke, I really did. The way the whole thing went down is comical. I hope this works out. I guess its better then getting Fassel.Well, gentlemen...we will have to move on to a different topic soon. The HC has been filled...I acutally like the hiring of Zorn, but not the way it went down. I hope Zorn is ready to be a HC, but he will have an experienced staff around him if he's not.Next on list...brief Pro Bowl talk, then combine, FA, then Draft.
Actually, the next step is who will be the offensive coordinator? Any chance they hire Fassel to be the OC?I thought this was a joke, I really did. The way the whole thing went down is comical. I hope this works out. I guess its better then getting Fassel.Well, gentlemen...we will have to move on to a different topic soon. The HC has been filled...I acutally like the hiring of Zorn, but not the way it went down. I hope Zorn is ready to be a HC, but he will have an experienced staff around him if he's not.Next on list...brief Pro Bowl talk, then combine, FA, then Draft.
Maybe that guy that coached the Ravens Last Year!Actually, the next step is who will be the offensive coordinator? Any chance they hire Fassel to be the OC?I thought this was a joke, I really did. The way the whole thing went down is comical. I hope this works out. I guess its better then getting Fassel.Well, gentlemen...we will have to move on to a different topic soon. The HC has been filled...I acutally like the hiring of Zorn, but not the way it went down. I hope Zorn is ready to be a HC, but he will have an experienced staff around him if he's not.Next on list...brief Pro Bowl talk, then combine, FA, then Draft.
1. He's clearly qualified to coach all the Seattle quarterbacks on our team. There's, um.....And, ummm.......2. I'd rather take a chance on a bright, up-and-coming guy than a retread like Fassell who has failed before.3. I bet Fassell is pissed. I bet Mora is pissed. "When I recommended Zorn and spoke all highly of him, I didn't mean he was a better choice than I was."4. Jason Campbell will be happy.5. Let's roll.
He is talented but gets banged up too much. Worth it anyway?
Wow, wouldn't that be a kick in the nads. Could they even look Fassel in the eye and offer that to him?Actually, the next step is who will be the offensive coordinator? Any chance they hire Fassel to be the OC?I thought this was a joke, I really did. The way the whole thing went down is comical. I hope this works out. I guess its better then getting Fassel.Well, gentlemen...we will have to move on to a different topic soon. The HC has been filled...I acutally like the hiring of Zorn, but not the way it went down. I hope Zorn is ready to be a HC, but he will have an experienced staff around him if he's not.Next on list...brief Pro Bowl talk, then combine, FA, then Draft.
