****OFFICIAL**** 2008 Washington Redskins Off Season Thread! (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

I know it could just be typical draft lies, but Cerrato has said they don't see DE as the problem with the pass rush. He's said they feel they need a pass rushing DT, so they may not look to DE in the first round. Of course, maybe there isn't a DT worthy of that spot. Remember last year when they kept saying it was their DBs that were the problem, not the DE? We were all ticked they didn't do anything at DE. But, they added Smoot and Landry and their pass rush did improve some.

 

[redman]

I know it could just be typical draft lies, but Cerrato has said they don't see DE as the problem with the pass rush. He's said they feel they need a pass rushing DT, so they may not look to DE in the first round. Of course, maybe there isn't a DT worthy of that spot. Remember last year when they kept saying it was their DBs that were the problem, not the DE? We were all ticked they didn't do anything at DE. But, they added Smoot and Landry and their pass rush did improve some.

As long as they stick to a BPA approach, which they did last year, then I can't complain too much. Thing is, this draft is pretty deep with DL talent.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone interested in some offseason Redskins fun and want to do an all-time Redskins draft?

 

[buster c]

I'm very unhappy that they are letting Cartwright test the Free Agency market. He's one of my favorite Redskins and plays so damn hard. I've always thought that he was one of the most underrated KR men in the NFL, here's hopping that no one picks him up and he can stay in maroon and black

this would be classic Snyder-Ceratto, going back to letting go of B.Mitch for Deion, not signing Pierce for $25m yet giving an older L.Fletcher 10m more, and letting go R.Clark for less than the signing bonus Archuleta got. same ol' schtick.

Mitchell was let go also because they had Larry Centers, but your point's valid otherwise. I agree that Rock should remain. He's great on special teams and even showed me something in those rare cases when he had the ball at RB. I don't see why he should be shown the door.

Come on guys, you can't keep everybody from year to year. What do you think this is, the OLD NFL where Ike Forte could hang around for many years just to play special teams and return a few kicks here and there. At least Ethan Albright will be back for anohter year.

hey, Ike Forte earned his keep!

 

[southeastjerome]

Examiner

Here are five players the Redskins could be eyeing for their first-round pick (21st overall), based partly on how they do at the combine:

Calais Campbell, Miami, DE » One scout compared him to Mario Williams, the No. 1 pick in 2006. He described the 6-foot-8 Campbell as a “freak of an athlete.” But his lack of production in some games is the primary reason why he might be available. Campbell’s agent, Gary Wichard, is a longtime friend of Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins executive vice president of football operations.

Lawrence Jackson, USC, DE » He needs a good showing after a poor week during the Senior Bowl. That’s dropped him to a second-round projection. But, with 30 1/2 career sacks, he was productive. Florida’s Derrick Harvey might be a better option, though he could be gone by 21.

Quentin Groves, Auburn, DE » Groves might end up playing outside linebacker in a 3-4. One league source said the Redskins liked him an awful lot early, but cooled on him after some interviews. He could easily drop to the second round.

Jeff Otah, Pitt, OT » Could easily be gone by the time Washington picks. With right tackle Jon Jansen coming off his second season-ending injury in four seasons, Otah could fill a need here. He also can play left tackle.

Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma, WR » At 6-foot-4, 215 pounds, he could provide the big receiver Washington lacks. He was adept at breaking tackles in college and considered a good route-runner. But he only caught two passes in the red zone as a senior.

What I like about Lawrence "LoJack" Jackson is that he played LDE in a 4-3 all through college in a major program, in a major conference, x4 years. I don't know if he'll be a stud, but I wouldn't expect him to bust at all.

I like Jackson too, I was actually hoping that he'll continue to tumble so he'd be there for when the Skins pick in round 2. Wishful thinking. My gut still tells me that they'll pick a WR though. I just think Zorn, being a former QB and former QB coach, has his QB and he'll want him to get his big target. I think adding a big WR via free agency is less likely given that the team has already invested a ton of $$ in Randel El and Lloyd. They haven't gotten the greatest return on investment. ARE has been decent, but probably not worth the money he got at the time.

I'm hoping they address the WR issue through FA, via either Hackett or Bryant Johnson. Drafting WR's DL's is a crapshoot that usually takes time to pay off anyway. Zorn's already said that this isn't at team that's rebuilding, so I hope that's how that sentiment is applied here.

I fixed the above because it could be said that way too.

I'm not sure I agree. Certainly all players who end up being successful picks tend to improve over time, but DE's usually can contribute more immediately than can many other positions. It's a trait of the positions that emphasize athleticism over mental mastery of the defense, hot reads, etc. There just isn't as much of a mental component to the game as there is with WR's. It's comparable to RB or CB in that regard. I agree that there's no guarantees with any draft pick though. Another reason I favor the pick of a guy like Jackson is that the team just flat out needs to invest in its lines. I'm tired of seeing this team being built backwards on both sides of the ball, from the outer positions in rather than vice versa, especially on defense. A good defensive line that can make plays on its own can cover up a lot of mediocrity elsewhere on defense.

I'm not saying I think a WR should be drafted in the first round, just that my gut tells me that will be the pick. I would love to see the DL addressed on day 1 of the draft and I agree with your assertion that a good defensive line makes the defense better overall. If you can get pressure with the front 4, not only does the QB have less time to throw the ball increasing the probability of bad throws/mistakes/turnovers, but there are more players in coverage to take advantage of those bad throws/mistakes and turn them into turnovers. Also DBs and LBs do not have to cover as long, making it more difficult for WRs to get open. I think DL is the most important position in football, but I think this team would have a tough time challening for the super bowl without another WR AND a stud pass rusher on the DL. It sound cliche, but if there ever was a year for this team to go with the BPA its this year. Following that MO, the BPA among WR, DE/DT and OL would make me happy.

With so much depth at CB in this draft, I'd really like to see a corner taken in day 1 as well.

 

[Lowen1]

Anyone interested in some offseason Redskins fun and want to do an all-time Redskins draft?

1.01 WR Michael Westbrook

 

[Bizkiteer]

Examiner

Here are five players the Redskins could be eyeing for their first-round pick (21st overall), based partly on how they do at the combine:

Calais Campbell, Miami, DE » One scout compared him to Mario Williams, the No. 1 pick in 2006. He described the 6-foot-8 Campbell as a “freak of an athlete.” But his lack of production in some games is the primary reason why he might be available. Campbell’s agent, Gary Wichard, is a longtime friend of Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins executive vice president of football operations.

Lawrence Jackson, USC, DE » He needs a good showing after a poor week during the Senior Bowl. That’s dropped him to a second-round projection. But, with 30 1/2 career sacks, he was productive. Florida’s Derrick Harvey might be a better option, though he could be gone by 21.

Quentin Groves, Auburn, DE » Groves might end up playing outside linebacker in a 3-4. One league source said the Redskins liked him an awful lot early, but cooled on him after some interviews. He could easily drop to the second round.

Jeff Otah, Pitt, OT » Could easily be gone by the time Washington picks. With right tackle Jon Jansen coming off his second season-ending injury in four seasons, Otah could fill a need here. He also can play left tackle.

Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma, WR » At 6-foot-4, 215 pounds, he could provide the big receiver Washington lacks. He was adept at breaking tackles in college and considered a good route-runner. But he only caught two passes in the red zone as a senior.

What I like about Lawrence "LoJack" Jackson is that he played LDE in a 4-3 all through college in a major program, in a major conference, x4 years. I don't know if he'll be a stud, but I wouldn't expect him to bust at all.

I like Jackson too, I was actually hoping that he'll continue to tumble so he'd be there for when the Skins pick in round 2. Wishful thinking. My gut still tells me that they'll pick a WR though. I just think Zorn, being a former QB and former QB coach, has his QB and he'll want him to get his big target. I think adding a big WR via free agency is less likely given that the team has already invested a ton of $$ in Randel El and Lloyd. They haven't gotten the greatest return on investment. ARE has been decent, but probably not worth the money he got at the time.

I'm hoping they address the WR issue through FA, via either Hackett or Bryant Johnson. Drafting WR's DL's is a crapshoot that usually takes time to pay off anyway. Zorn's already said that this isn't at team that's rebuilding, so I hope that's how that sentiment is applied here.

I fixed the above because it could be said that way too.

I'm not sure I agree. Certainly all players who end up being successful picks tend to improve over time, but DE's usually can contribute more immediately than can many other positions. It's a trait of the positions that emphasize athleticism over mental mastery of the defense, hot reads, etc. There just isn't as much of a mental component to the game as there is with WR's. It's comparable to RB or CB in that regard. I agree that there's no guarantees with any draft pick though. Another reason I favor the pick of a guy like Jackson is that the team just flat out needs to invest in its lines. I'm tired of seeing this team being built backwards on both sides of the ball, from the outer positions in rather than vice versa, especially on defense. A good defensive line that can make plays on its own can cover up a lot of mediocrity elsewhere on defense.

A prime example is Mario Williams, who was taken #1 overall 2 yrs ago. Is first year was nothing and talk was that maybe they made a mistake, well he started to contribute in his second year. Gaines Adams, who was drafted HIGH in the draft last year...did little to nothing didn't contribute last year. Jamaal Anderson, who was drafted by ATL and was the 2nd DE taken last year....one could argue that they could have forfeited their pick and got the same production the past season.DL do not contribute right away, they are very similar to rookie WR's in that it takes them more than one year to get it. WR's generally take slightly longer, but don't kid yourself...DL won't help right away at all. It's true for DT's just as much as DE's.

 

[thayman]

I haven't heard anymore Chad Johnson trade rumblings. Any word as to who the Skins might be going after in FA???

 

[Marvelous]

I know it could just be typical draft lies, but Cerrato has said they don't see DE as the problem with the pass rush. He's said they feel they need a pass rushing DT, so they may not look to DE in the first round. Of course, maybe there isn't a DT worthy of that spot. Remember last year when they kept saying it was their DBs that were the problem, not the DE? We were all ticked they didn't do anything at DE. But, they added Smoot and Landry and their pass rush did improve some.

From the comments from Cerrato and Blache, it sounds like a "brusing DT" is a high priority. The top flight ones go really high in the draft.The Redskins seriously need to go with the best player available, with their needs in the back of their minds. They just need good productive players.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Anyone interested in some offseason Redskins fun and want to do an all-time Redskins draft?

1.01 WR Michael Westbrook

Stephen davis

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

1.2 Heath Shuler Qb

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

From JLC

Jason LaCanfora Checks In

--The Redskins have restructured tackle Jon Jansen's contract, converting base salary to bonuses and saving about $3.1 million against the cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The team is now about $4 million over the cap but with the contracts of Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright voiding next week, they are essentially in compliance. The team can still re-do as many as six other contracts if necessary. Expect meetings with the agents of several players to happen at the combine, including the agent for cornerback Shawn Springs.

--The Redskins have expressed interest in retaining offensive lineman Jason Fabini, scheduled to become a free agent next week. He has spent most of his career as a starting tackle in the league and impressed many with his adjustment to guard, starting there most of the season after Randy Thomas was hurt. Given Fabini's experience and versatility, he is inclined to test the market but is not opposed to returning to the Redskins in a reserve role, according to a source. The sides are likely to speak again at the combine.

--The team is also interested in re-signing punter Derrick Frost and backup quarterback Todd Collins from its group of potential free agents.

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

--Should the Redskins fail to land a star receiver, Seattle wideout D.J. Hackett could be attractive to new coach Jim Zorn, who spent the last seven years with the Seahawks. This is what I have been saying for weeks. It makes the most sense.

--League sources expect the Redskins to pursue free agent cornerback Drayton Florence, who played for the Chargers

 

[fatness]

1.3 Desmond Howard

 

[fatness]

I haven't heard anymore Chad Johnson trade rumblings. Any word as to who the Skins might be going after in FA???

Shaquille O'NealRoger Clemens

 

[buster c]

looks like our old pal is embroiled in a management dispute once again. has he spent little Danny's 13 mil already?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

POSTED 1:51 p.m. EST, February 16, 2008

COLES SAYS JETS LIED TO HIM

Last year, it was Pete Kendall. Now, it's Laveranues Coles.

In both instances, a veteran member of the New York Jets football team claims that the organization lied to him about his contract.

Coles tells the Newark Star-Ledger that the team "lied" and "strung him along" about a new deal over the past two seasons. He wants a long-term deal, and he won't report to the team's offseason program without one.

"I don't want to seem like another greedy player, but I feel I've earned the right to know where I'll finish my career," Coles said. "I've done everything this organization has asked me to do and I'm asking them to do this for me. I think I've earned that much. I've put it all on the line every Sunday for this organization.

"They've told me for the past two seasons that they would take care of me and now I feel they're stringing me along. I'm not going through this for another year.

"I've played hurt. I've been a leader in the locker room. I've held the team together in bad times. I was an intermediary between management and the players. I sacrificed my numbers for the good of the team. . . . I don't want to be a disgruntled player. I want to be someplace where I'm happy."

Coles says that the time has come for the team to deliver. "I don't want this to be a Pete Kendall situation. I don't want to be like Brandon Moore and sit out a practice to get a new contract. It shouldn't have to come to that point."

The veteran receiver, who left the Jets as a restricted free agent in 2003 and then was traded back to New York by the Redskins two years later, has two years remaining on his contract. He's due to earn $5 million in 2008 and $6 million in 2009, and the team is willing to guarantee both payments.

That's rare, but it's not enough for Coles.

The issue apparently has come to a head because, when Coles tried after the 2007 season to get an extension, the team cited his decreased production in support of its position.

"I played hurt," he said. "I ran clear-out routes for Jerricho [Cotchery]. They praised me for my toughness and not worrying about my numbers. They tell me that I'm an unselfish player.

"I do everything they ask me to do and then when it comes to business, they tell me my production is down. That's not right."

Coles, 30, believes he has four or five good years left in him. But he wants to know where he's going to end his career, and he hopes it will be with the Jets.

And if he's going to be on the open market in 2010 (which by the way could be an uncapped year), he'd prefer to hit the open market right now.

 

[buster c]

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index....xml&coll=1

SPCA accuses Giants' Pierce of neglecting dog

Thursday, February 14, 2008

BY BRIAN T. MURRAY

Star-Ledger Staff

Giants middle linebacker Antonio Pierce was served with a sum mons yesterday for animal neglect based on the condition of one of two pitbulls that escaped from his Monroe Township home days be fore the Super Bowl.

The Middlesex County Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, a quasi-law enforcement group that investigates animal abuse cases, issued the lone municipal court complaint. Walt Mychal chyk, chief of the agency, said the neglect charge carries a fine upon conviction, but he cautioned against any comparison with Michael Vick, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback sentenced to a 23-month prison term after a federal dogfighting conviction.

"This summons is for neglect. There is no pitbull fighting or any of that nonsense here," said My chalchyk. "After the dogs got loose, we found that one was underweight and had a respiratory illness. The other one was fine."

It was Jan. 30 when Monroe Township animal control officer Frank Faraone was notified of two loose dogs and rounded them up. Mychalchyk said it was unclear at the time whom the dogs belonged to, but further investigation determined that they were owned by Pierce and appeared to have escaped a fenced enclosure by pushing open or nosing under a gate.

Faraone took one dog to a local shelter, but notified the SPCA that the second dog appeared underweight. That dog was taken to a veterinarian, who determined that it suffered from a respiratory illness, said Mychalchyk.

"Both dogs are now in a kennel. They are back in his (Pierce's) cus tody, but he has them in a kennel," said Mychalchyk. "I checked on them the other day, and both dogs are doing well. The summons charges that Mr. Pierce failed to provide proper food, water and veterinarian care."

Pierce declined comment yesterday through a Giants spokesman. It was unclear who was charged with watching the dogs while Pierce was in Arizona prepar ing for his team's Super Bowl vic tory.

AP the Hypocrite

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

1.3 Desmond Howard

Hey atleast he won a SuperBowl MVP

 

[Bizkiteer]

From JLC

Jason LaCanfora Checks In

--The Redskins have restructured tackle Jon Jansen's contract, converting base salary to bonuses and saving about $3.1 million against the cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The team is now about $4 million over the cap but with the contracts of Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright voiding next week, they are essentially in compliance. The team can still re-do as many as six other contracts if necessary. Expect meetings with the agents of several players to happen at the combine, including the agent for cornerback Shawn Springs.

--The Redskins have expressed interest in retaining offensive lineman Jason Fabini, scheduled to become a free agent next week. He has spent most of his career as a starting tackle in the league and impressed many with his adjustment to guard, starting there most of the season after Randy Thomas was hurt. Given Fabini's experience and versatility, he is inclined to test the market but is not opposed to returning to the Redskins in a reserve role, according to a source. The sides are likely to speak again at the combine.

--The team is also interested in re-signing punter Derrick Frost and backup quarterback Todd Collins from its group of potential free agents.

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

--Should the Redskins fail to land a star receiver, Seattle wideout D.J. Hackett could be attractive to new coach Jim Zorn, who spent the last seven years with the Seahawks. This is what I have been saying for weeks. It makes the most sense.

--League sources expect the Redskins to pursue free agent cornerback Drayton Florence, who played for the Chargers

Actually, I like them going after Florence. He's a good CB, who will come much cheaper than the high profile one's. This would be a smart move, opposed to going after the BIG name.As for DJ Hacket...I'm not a fan as the wind seems even hurt him. If it's not a ton of money, I'm fine with taking a flyer on him, but he's not a real solid #2.

 

[redman]

1.04 - Andre Johnson

Yep, a first round OT . . . who Norv insisted we trade up for . . . with the Cowboys . . . wait for it . . . who didn't even survive camp his rookie year before being cut.

 

[southeastjerome]

From JLC

Jason LaCanfora Checks In

--The Redskins have restructured tackle Jon Jansen's contract, converting base salary to bonuses and saving about $3.1 million against the cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The team is now about $4 million over the cap but with the contracts of Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright voiding next week, they are essentially in compliance. The team can still re-do as many as six other contracts if necessary. Expect meetings with the agents of several players to happen at the combine, including the agent for cornerback Shawn Springs.

--The Redskins have expressed interest in retaining offensive lineman Jason Fabini, scheduled to become a free agent next week. He has spent most of his career as a starting tackle in the league and impressed many with his adjustment to guard, starting there most of the season after Randy Thomas was hurt. Given Fabini's experience and versatility, he is inclined to test the market but is not opposed to returning to the Redskins in a reserve role, according to a source. The sides are likely to speak again at the combine.

--The team is also interested in re-signing punter Derrick Frost and backup quarterback Todd Collins from its group of potential free agents.

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

--Should the Redskins fail to land a star receiver, Seattle wideout D.J. Hackett could be attractive to new coach Jim Zorn, who spent the last seven years with the Seahawks. This is what I have been saying for weeks. It makes the most sense.

--League sources expect the Redskins to pursue free agent cornerback Drayton Florence, who played for the Chargers

Actually, I like them going after Florence. He's a good CB, who will come much cheaper than the high profile one's. This would be a smart move, opposed to going after the BIG name.As for DJ Hacket...I'm not a fan as the wind seems even hurt him. If it's not a ton of money, I'm fine with taking a flyer on him, but he's not a real solid #2.

I don't mind Florence either. I probably would prefer Randall Gay over him, but either of those guys is fine. I like hearing that Briggs could be too pricey. I do not want to see them throw huge money at Briggs or Samuel for that matter.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

From JLC

Jason LaCanfora Checks In

--The Redskins have restructured tackle Jon Jansen's contract, converting base salary to bonuses and saving about $3.1 million against the cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The team is now about $4 million over the cap but with the contracts of Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright voiding next week, they are essentially in compliance. The team can still re-do as many as six other contracts if necessary. Expect meetings with the agents of several players to happen at the combine, including the agent for cornerback Shawn Springs.

--The Redskins have expressed interest in retaining offensive lineman Jason Fabini, scheduled to become a free agent next week. He has spent most of his career as a starting tackle in the league and impressed many with his adjustment to guard, starting there most of the season after Randy Thomas was hurt. Given Fabini's experience and versatility, he is inclined to test the market but is not opposed to returning to the Redskins in a reserve role, according to a source. The sides are likely to speak again at the combine.

--The team is also interested in re-signing punter Derrick Frost and backup quarterback Todd Collins from its group of potential free agents.

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

--Should the Redskins fail to land a star receiver, Seattle wideout D.J. Hackett could be attractive to new coach Jim Zorn, who spent the last seven years with the Seahawks. This is what I have been saying for weeks. It makes the most sense.

--League sources expect the Redskins to pursue free agent cornerback Drayton Florence, who played for the Chargers

Actually, I like them going after Florence. He's a good CB, who will come much cheaper than the high profile one's. This would be a smart move, opposed to going after the BIG name.As for DJ Hacket...I'm not a fan as the wind seems even hurt him. If it's not a ton of money, I'm fine with taking a flyer on him, but he's not a real solid #2.

I don't mind Florence either. I probably would prefer Randall Gay over him, but either of those guys is fine. I like hearing that Briggs could be too pricey. I do not want to see them throw huge money at Briggs or Samuel for that matter.

R. Gay is who I like!

 

[fatness]

R. Gay

I won't judge you.

 

[redman]

From JLC

Jason LaCanfora Checks In

--The Redskins have restructured tackle Jon Jansen's contract, converting base salary to bonuses and saving about $3.1 million against the cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The team is now about $4 million over the cap but with the contracts of Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright voiding next week, they are essentially in compliance. The team can still re-do as many as six other contracts if necessary. Expect meetings with the agents of several players to happen at the combine, including the agent for cornerback Shawn Springs.

--The Redskins have expressed interest in retaining offensive lineman Jason Fabini, scheduled to become a free agent next week. He has spent most of his career as a starting tackle in the league and impressed many with his adjustment to guard, starting there most of the season after Randy Thomas was hurt. Given Fabini's experience and versatility, he is inclined to test the market but is not opposed to returning to the Redskins in a reserve role, according to a source. The sides are likely to speak again at the combine.

--The team is also interested in re-signing punter Derrick Frost and backup quarterback Todd Collins from its group of potential free agents.

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

--Should the Redskins fail to land a star receiver, Seattle wideout D.J. Hackett could be attractive to new coach Jim Zorn, who spent the last seven years with the Seahawks. This is what I have been saying for weeks. It makes the most sense.

--League sources expect the Redskins to pursue free agent cornerback Drayton Florence, who played for the Chargers

Actually, I like them going after Florence. He's a good CB, who will come much cheaper than the high profile one's. This would be a smart move, opposed to going after the BIG name.As for DJ Hacket...I'm not a fan as the wind seems even hurt him. If it's not a ton of money, I'm fine with taking a flyer on him, but he's not a real solid #2.

I don't mind Florence either. I probably would prefer Randall Gay over him, but either of those guys is fine. I like hearing that Briggs could be too pricey. I do not want to see them throw huge money at Briggs or Samuel for that matter.

I'm with you guys. I'm all for an offseason of Florences and Gays (NTTAWWT) over Halls and Samuels, Hacketts and Bryants over Moss's and Fitzgeralds, and draft picks over Allens.

 

[redman]

R. Gay is who I like!

We could tell from the OSU thread in the FFA.

 

[fatness]

* The buzz so far is how deep the offensive tackle class is, led by Michigan's Jake Long. Pittsburgh personnel boss Kevin Colbert calls it the best group in his NFL career, which spans more than two decades.

Ryan O'Halloran, about the combine

 

[redman]

* The buzz so far is how deep the offensive tackle class is, led by Michigan's Jake Long. Pittsburgh personnel boss Kevin Colbert calls it the best group in his NFL career, which spans more than two decades.

Ryan O'Halloran, about the combine

We're at a spot in the first round where I wouldn't necessarily mind trading down to get another first day pick. I like the depth among linemen, and that's precisely the sort of draft we need to have this year.

 

[southeastjerome]

* The buzz so far is how deep the offensive tackle class is, led by Michigan's Jake Long. Pittsburgh personnel boss Kevin Colbert calls it the best group in his NFL career, which spans more than two decades.

Ryan O'Halloran, about the combine

We're at a spot in the first round where I wouldn't necessarily mind trading down to get another first day pick. I like the depth among linemen, and that's precisely the sort of draft we need to have this year.

There is depth at T and CB, two positions in need of a youth infusion. I would be all for trading down a few slots if it meant picking up another 2nd or 3rd rounder.

 

[fatness]

DT, OT, CB, and WR

What we need out of the first 3 or 4 rounds.

 

[southeastjerome]

DT, OT, CB, and WRWhat we need out of the first 3 or 4 rounds.

Definately. I would love to see them draft a OT who is versatile and can play G as well. You could even throw in OLB as a need. Marcus had a down year and is another year older, Rocky is coming back from injury, Blades really is a MLB and Khary Campbell is good on special teams, but he's not someone I would want to see starting. Although this problem could be solved by signing someone like Kawika Mitchell if the NYG do not end up resigning him.

 

[Dexter Manley]

1.05 - Mohammed Elewonibi

Value pick. Once his shoulders get healed up there's no doubt he'll be one of the elite olineman in the league.

 

[DCThunder]

You guys remember the Bobby Wilson, the MSU DT that they drafted in the early 90s that was on the field for about 5 snaps in 6 seasons?

 

[TankRizzo]

R. Gay

I won't judge you.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anyone interested in some offseason Redskins fun and want to do an all-time Redskins draft?

I'm in, if anyone wants to do a serious one.

 

[redman]

Anyone interested in some offseason Redskins fun and want to do an all-time Redskins draft?

I'm in, if anyone wants to do a serious one.

I'm not in (facetious response above, notwithstanding) but if you do it please do it in a separate thread.

 

[Marvelous]

DT, OT, CB, and WRWhat we need out of the first 3 or 4 rounds.

Is there a position on the Redskins where they couldn't use a productive player through the draft? The only positions I can't see the Redskins using a high draft pick is at QB and RB. But even a late draft pick at either of those positions makes sense.For the most part, you expect draft picks to help your team out 2-3 years down the road. Unless you have a super high draft pick, you aren't looking for immediate starters in the draft.I also think they may spend a pick on a speed wr/rb/cb who has kick return potential. I always thought when they signed Randle El to a big contract, he would return kickoffs too. Maybe now he will.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

R. Gay is who I like!

We could tell from the OSU thread in the FFA.

:(

 

[Swing 51]

JLC's blog on Wash Post.com

Posted at 3:37 PM ET, 02/22/2008

Cerrato Speaks

Mark Maske reports that Vinny Cerrato spoke at the combine this afternoon and is promising a quiet free-agency period. According to Mark, Cerrato said:

"Our cap situation is okay. I just think there's a limited number of guys in free agency. The price of what guys are going to be paid is astronomical. I don't foresee us being a big player. It'll be a shock to some, but I don't see us being a big player in free agency. I don't think Dan's plane will be getting fired up and ready to go. I just think it'll be a quiet start to free agency for us."

On Cartwright: "Rock was a very productive player for us. I think he wants to see what his value is on the open market."

On Collins, "I think he wants to see what's out there. I think he wants to see if there's an opportunity for him to be a starting quarterback. If not, I think he's very open to coming back."

On Springs: "I think we're on the same page with Shawn."

Posted by Emilio Garcia-Ruiz

Posted at 2:58 PM ET, 02/22/2008

Zorn on Todd Collins

As told to Maske at the Combine: "Todd Collins is a free agent. He's a guy that I'm concerned about, that we try to nail down if we can. ... because he's a veteran [and] because he proved to himself, he proved to the football team that it can be confident in him if he has to go in and play. I think he'll be good for Jason. Again, it's a veteran instructing a younger guy when I'm not in the room. I just think that he has a sense of rhythm and he has the sense of timing that it takes to run plays and get the ball out. He's learned different systems. He hasn't always been in one system. He'll only have to learn some of the facets of it."

Zorn said he has spoken to Collins.

"He's got to make sure he does his due diligence, too. He is a free agent. I'm not concerned about that. He's going to do what's best for himself, his family. I'm hoping that he would do what's best for the Washington Redskins. That will be something that he has to figure out for himself, and then hopefully we can put it together."

Zorn said Campbell would be the clear starter.

"There's competition. I don't think that Todd should come in here feeling like, 'I'm never going to play. Woe is me.' He'd better come in thinking that he's got to get himself ready. He's got to push Jason and take over if he can. And then Jason has got to think to himself, 'I'm the guy. This is my team. I'm not looking back.' "

Posted by Emilio Garcia-Ruiz

Posted at 2:22 PM ET, 02/22/2008

Zorn on Brunell

As told to Maske at the Combine: "We're trying to figure out his situation too. He's trying to figure out his situation. He wants to be a number two as well. He's highly competitive. He's had a great career and he still has some stuff left. I know he wants to be a number two. That's down the road. And again, I wouldn't have him coming back thinking, 'Woe is me. I'm number three. I'm never gonna play again in my life.' He's got to keep pushing, too. These guys have got to do it themselves. They have to consider that in their own minds."

Posted by Emilio Garcia-Ruiz

Posted at 1:41 PM ET, 02/22/2008

Zorn on Needing a Big Receiver

Zorn, as told to Maske at the Combine: "I don't know about a bigger kind of guy. You'd love to have the biggest, fastest guy that you can get that would dominate. But to slot a guy and say, 'We have to have a big guy on that side,' I don't know if I'd put that as a label or a necessity. Everybody wants the biggest, fastest, most dominating receivers that they can possibly get. That's what we'll be looking for and hopefully we'll have an opportunity to get a good guy. I don't want to discount the guys we've already got. Santana, he's solid. Antwaan, he's solid. There's other guys here that will have their opportunity as well."

Posted by Emilio Garcia-Ruiz

Posted at 12:36 PM ET, 02/22/2008

Zorn Speaks

Since Jasno apparently has zero Springsteen on his Ipod (at least no Bruce songs ever come up during Jasno's chats), we'll take advantage of the blogger's absence by asking: "Is there anybody alive out there??" Seems it rained here today and the city pretty much shut down. For those federal workers at your computers (all three of you), Zorn spoke at the Combine with Mark Maske and went through the roster.

Nothing too Earth-shattering but I'll be putting things up all afternoon. Here's Mark's summation: Zorn said he wants Collins back as a backup. Campbell is the clear-cut starter and will be cleared for drills the first time the team takes the field in the offseason. He said he wants Springs back and Cartwright back. He said Carlos Rogers won't be ready for the start of the season. He said he likes the wide receivers he has, although not ruling out getting another one. He listed his positions of need as safety, cornerback, depth on the offensive line and backup quarterback.

Posted by Emilio Garcia-Ruiz |

 

[fatness]

There's a good writeup by Jason Wood of the free agent WR's available Here.

1. Randy Moss (6′4″, 210 pounds, 30 years old)

2. Bernard Berrian (6′1″, 185 pounds, 27 years old)

3. Bryant Johnson (6′3″, 213 pounds, 26 years old)

4. D.J. Hackett (6′2″, 208 pounds, 26 years old)

5. Donte Stallworth (6′0″, 200 pounds, 27 years old)

6. Andre’ Davis (6′1″, 195 pounds, 28 years old)

7. Ernest Wilford (6′4″, 218 pounds, 29 years old)

8. Jerry Porter (6′2″, 220 pounds, 29 years old)

9. Justin Gage (6′4″, 212 pounds, 26 years old)

10. Muhsin Muhammad (6′2″, 215 pounds, 34 years old)

11. Marty Booker (6′0″, 210 pounds, 31 years old)

12. David Patten (5′10″, 190 pounds, 33 years old)

I like Hackett a lot, but he seems to get hurt too much. Bryant Johnson is a young guy, drafted in the first round, who was stuck playing behind Boldin and Fitzgerald. I hope the Skins talk to him.

 

[redman]

There's a good writeup by Jason Wood of the free agent WR's available Here.

1. Randy Moss (6′4″, 210 pounds, 30 years old)

2. Bernard Berrian (6′1″, 185 pounds, 27 years old)

3. Bryant Johnson (6′3″, 213 pounds, 26 years old)

4. D.J. Hackett (6′2″, 208 pounds, 26 years old)

5. Donte Stallworth (6′0″, 200 pounds, 27 years old)

6. Andre’ Davis (6′1″, 195 pounds, 28 years old)

7. Ernest Wilford (6′4″, 218 pounds, 29 years old)

8. Jerry Porter (6′2″, 220 pounds, 29 years old)

9. Justin Gage (6′4″, 212 pounds, 26 years old)

10. Muhsin Muhammad (6′2″, 215 pounds, 34 years old)

11. Marty Booker (6′0″, 210 pounds, 31 years old)

12. David Patten (5′10″, 190 pounds, 33 years old)

I like Hackett a lot, but he seems to get hurt too much. Bryant Johnson is a young guy, drafted in the first round, who was stuck playing behind Boldin and Fitzgerald. I hope the Skins talk to him.

Those are the two guys who seem most likely to be targeted by the 'Skins. Both are IMHO diamonds in the rough. I don't like Hackett's injury history, but he's already familiar with the offense and Zorn, and he's a very good WR when healthy. Stallworth and Booker wouldn't be bad consolation prizes if we can't land Hackett or Johnson, though I suspect Stallworth's price would be too big.

 

[fatness]

Washington Times on draft and player thinking

"Our cap situation is OK," executive vice president/football operations Vinny Cerrato said yesterday at the NFL Scouting Combine. "There are limited guys in free agency and the price they'll be paid will be astronomical. I don't foresee us being a big player.".................

............The Redskins will sign players who fill a specific need, not a specific "wow" factor. "Not so much replacing guys but adding guys," coach Jim Zorn said. "We want to make sure we have the next guy in line, so those younger guys are being taught and being helped by the guys who are playing now." That comment would signal a commitment to using each of the six draft picks in April but if veterans are added, they would be in the secondary.

Brandon Lloyd appears on his way out. Zorn has yet to speak with Lloyd since he was hired to the staff in late January.

• Reserve cornerback/safety: Cornerback Shawn Springs should return — "I think Shawn's excited because he knows me and hopefully that will rev him up," Zorn said — to join Fred Smoot in the starting lineup. Cerrato said Carlos Rogers (knee) is out until mid-September.

Leigh Torrence is the No. 3 corner if the Redskins opt to hold down the fort until Rogers' return. If they don't, San Diego's Drayton Florence and Dallas' Jacques Reeves lead the crop of nonfranchise corners.

At safety, Cerrato said third-year player Reed Doughty will get a chance to start alongside LaRon Landry, but the team could add a veteran to mentor the duo. "After listening to the coaches when we met the other day, the coaches were really happy with Reed and thought he improved as the season went along," Cerrato said.

• Young defensive end and defensive tackle: The first priority is a pass-rushing defensive end, which would allow veteran Phillip Daniels to move to tackle more often. The top ends available when the Redskins draft at No. 21 could be Calais Campbell of Miami and USC's Lawrence Jackson. "There is a good group of ends who can also move inside," Redskins director of player personnel Scott Campbell said. "You prefer a guy who can move in and out like Phillip does for us."

• Young center/guard: The Redskins have developed only one young offensive lineman (tackle Stephon Heyer) since the 2004 season. With each starter 30 or older, the Redskins must address the future by drafting young players. "Whether it's through free agency or the draft, we would love to have more guys there that could step in," Zorn said. Zorn is confident right tackle Jon Jansen can return from his second season-ending injury in four years.

 

[fatness]

Zorn and Campbell will begin working March 17. "I don't know if I would call it a 'Quarterback School,' but I want to go out there and help him with some drill work," Zorn said.

Asked whether Campbell fits what a West Coast offense requires of the triggerman, Zorn said: "If Jason was a plodder, a guy who was a slow drop-back guy and couldn't move, it would be difficult for him. But he has excellent feet. I'll have to drill him on the idea of moving, changing directions and getting rid of the ball on rhythm. I think he can do it."

Link

 

[fatness]

From the combine. Good stuff here.

* Zorn on if he has a feel for the Redskins' personnel: "No. If I do for a feel, it's really on the surface. Once you're around the guys in practice and meetings and you see the work ethic, see if they are any whiners, see what guys come ready to work. That's when I'll have a better feel for what the team is about."

* Zorn on a different role for him at the Combine: "What's really been different is I get to see all the players instead of the quarterbacks only. That's been quite different. I've seen some really good looking wide receivers. What I'm trying to do is sit next to the position coach or next to Scott Campbell and talk about the guys so I can get up the speed because I don't know about the other positions."

This guy seems to have his head screwed on right.

 

[fatness]

Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn expects running back Clinton Portis to catch near 50 passes again and be the team's workhorse. He added that Portis will share the backfield in a dual set with tailback Ladell Betts. Zorn expects tight end Chris Cooley to continue to be a major factor in the offense.

KFFL

 

[fatness]

New Redskins coach Jim Zorn is now at the podium. Just overheard him talking about quarterback Jason Campbell.

"I don't want Jason Campbell to think, 'Oh my gosh, if I make one mistake, I'm going to get pulled from the game.' He's going to play 16 games, he's going to lead us to the playoffs, and that's that."

ESPN blog

 

[fatness]

Rich Tandler says what he means

I'm an NFL writer. I'm an NFL guy. But I couldn't possibly be less interested in the alleged NFL "event" going on this weekend.

The combine (I refuse to capitalize it) is all over the sports media. There were some 400 media credentials issued for the gathering, more than one for every player participating. Every paper has its team beat reporters in Indianapolis. Sirius NFL radio is there for many of its daily shows. The omnipresent ESPN is there. The NFL Network is the worst, carrying hour upon tedious hour of live coverage from the RCA Dome and the various other media centers in downtown Indy. They're even counting down highlights and showing classic combine moments from years past.

And why are they all there? To watch a bunch of college dropouts run around in shorts and t-shirts doing a variety of tasks, most of which are unrelated to football.

 

[redman]

New Redskins coach Jim Zorn is now at the podium. Just overheard him talking about quarterback Jason Campbell.

"I don't want Jason Campbell to think, 'Oh my gosh, if I make one mistake, I'm going to get pulled from the game.' He's going to play 16 games, he's going to lead us to the playoffs, and that's that."

ESPN blog

Zorn's unabashed openness is a refreshing contrast to Gibbs' close-to-the-vest, don't-pin-me-down style of communicating with the media.

 

[fatness]

Zorn's unabashed openness is a refreshing contrast to Gibbs' close-to-the-vest, don't-pin-me-down style of communicating with the media.

It really is. And it's slowly building my trust in the guy, and my feeling that if he doesn't know what he's doing yet he'll learn it pretty quickly.

 

[redman]

Zorn's unabashed openness is a refreshing contrast to Gibbs' close-to-the-vest, don't-pin-me-down style of communicating with the media.

It really is. And it's slowly building my trust in the guy, and my feeling that if he doesn't know what he's doing yet he'll learn it pretty quickly.

I would figure that it will also inject life into that locker room. Not that they weren't motivated for Gibbs, but Zorn seems like the kind of guy to fire up a team. I just hope he gets the organizational/managerial/delegatory aspects of head coaching down, because I'm liking everything else so far.

 

[fatness]

Sorry for bombing the thread with (probably too many) links today, I just found them interesting for small or large reasons. This is the last one for the day, and it's a long read and well worth the time to read it. It's from Seahawks.net, about Jim Zorn and the WCO and the Redskins.

Zorn Brings West Coast to Washington

Zorn will bring the Seattle version of the West Coast offense to the Redskins -- not the more recent, pass-wacky by necessity version of 2007, but the more balanced attack of 2004 and 2005, when Seattle's offensive line and running game were still working and halfback Shaun Alexander was near the top of the league. He's got a good fit as far as offensive personnel goes.

The on-field personnel are in place in Washington -- there is no question about that. The Redskins' offensive line is effective, though it can be worn down over time. In Collins and Campbell, Zorn has an intriguing veteran journeyman/future star dynamic. Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts are textbook backs for this system, and Cooley should flourish in a system that asks the tight end to stretch the seam to keep the flats open. The receiver corps has one or two question marks, but it's almost as if Zorn has acquired a roster that was pre-built for his offensive philosophy.

 

[redman]

Sorry for bombing the thread with (probably too many) links today, I just found them interesting for small or large reasons. This is the last one for the day, and it's a long read and well worth the time to read it. It's from Seahawks.net, about Jim Zorn and the WCO and the Redskins.

Zorn Brings West Coast to Washington

Zorn will bring the Seattle version of the West Coast offense to the Redskins -- not the more recent, pass-wacky by necessity version of 2007, but the more balanced attack of 2004 and 2005, when Seattle's offensive line and running game were still working and halfback Shaun Alexander was near the top of the league. He's got a good fit as far as offensive personnel goes.

The on-field personnel are in place in Washington -- there is no question about that. The Redskins' offensive line is effective, though it can be worn down over time. In Collins and Campbell, Zorn has an intriguing veteran journeyman/future star dynamic. Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts are textbook backs for this system, and Cooley should flourish in a system that asks the tight end to stretch the seam to keep the flats open. The receiver corps has one or two question marks, but it's almost as if Zorn has acquired a roster that was pre-built for his offensive philosophy.

Nice read.The thing that I'm most enthusiastic about regarding Zorn and Campbell is the fact that Zorn seems to be emphasizing a moving pocket with him to play to his strengths. I've said for some time around here that I thought Campbell was very effective rolling out and throwing, especially to his right, and probably the best 'Skins QB in that regard since Joey T. His first TD in 2006 came that way @TB, and many others have followed. I think a major failing of the Gibbs/Saunders regime was not to emphasize that more.