***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[renesauz]

with all these players leaving via free agency, the Eagles are going to be big winners with compensatory draft picks, which i believe will be at least a third and fourth rounder. IF this happens, then they would be able to move a first and their original third rounder in a possible trade, hopefully Boldin, without being shut out of each round with no picks. Just a thought. I would like to think the front office has a plan instead of depleting the team depth with all these free agents leaving.

Looks like in the Projecting the 2009 Compensatory picks thread they have the Eagles getting shut out with 0 picks (because of Assante?)

Who were the FA players that left Philly last year? Nobody really sticks out in my mind all that much, but I could easily be forgetting someone.On a side note, I am surprised we there isn't more interest in the talk of us possibly signing Leonard Weaver. It isn't a flashy signing (if it happens) but it is certainly an area of need. Weaver has been in the WCO for a few years now and has shown the ability to run the ball when needed and be effective as a receiver, too. I think this could help out with the short yardage issues and give us someone who can be a weapon (to some degree) when called upon. Am I overestimating his helpfulness for this team?

Nope...I'm interested too.

 

[CentralPA]

It's been reported the Eagles are interested in signing him. A lot of teams are turned off because he's asking 2-3 million poer year and apparently that's equivlant to Hayneworth cash for a FB? For as glaring of a need that position is I think they can spend a few million bucks off that 40 mill salary cap and sign this guy.

 

[Polish Hammer]

It's been reported the Eagles are interested in signing him. A lot of teams are turned off because he's asking 2-3 million poer year and apparently that's equivlant to Hayneworth cash for a FB? For as glaring of a need that position is I think they can spend a few million bucks off that 40 mill salary cap and sign this guy.

I'd be interested to see what other big name fullbacks have gotten in FA lately. Funny to think it was 14 years go and the Ray Rhodes era when the Birds signed Kevin Turner to a 3-year $4.1 million contract. I'm sure that Banner and Co. have some calculus in place to determine what that signing would equate to in today's NFL dollars and are trying to hammer that home. While the number he is asking might be high for the position, I tend to agree that the impact it could have (and their cap space) could make it worth it. Ideally I'd want to see him on the lower end of it (closer to the $2MM mark) and for a good time period, say 3 years with an option.

 

[Mighty Mice]

A FB (Not a DT converted to FB) will definately help short yardage and goal line issues the Iggles have had. Weaver does know the WCO and is only 26 years old. If the price is right, I'd love to see Philly nab him

Some other FB's salaries (USA Today) http://content.usatoday.com/sports/footbal...on.aspx?pos=131

Ovie Mughelli made 1.75M for ATL

Justin Griffith made 1.405M for OAK

Weaver made 1.421M for SEA

Hedgecock 1.2M for NYG

Hoover 1.43M for CAR

just for a few examples...so yes, $3M would be extremely high...

 

[jasvic]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/0...signing-weaver/

From the article, it looks like his agent is asking for too much.

Eagles Interested In Signing Weaver

From Bob Brookover of The Philadelphia Inquirer:

An Eagles source confirmed yesterday that the team is interested in signing free-agent fullback Leonard Weaver.

The source added that negotiations with Weaver’s agent, Harold Lewis, had not become serious. The agent said that was the case and that he was not in a rush to get Weaver signed because he knows his client is a sought-after player.

“Right now, we’re just talking” with the Eagles, Lewis said. “We’re talking with many other teams as well. There’s a lot of interest because Leonard is the No. 1 fullback on the board.”

Even though Weaver is listed as a fullback, Lewis believes he brings more to the table than the average player at his position. In other words, the agent thinks Weaver should be paid more like a running back than a fullback.

“He’s definitely not the average bear,” Lewis said.

“He’s an excellent receiver, runner, and blocker. The fullback pay scale doesn’t reflect his talents. We’re just trying to find the right situation and the right contract. We can always go back to Seattle, because they’d like to have him back.”

 

[JaxBill]

So which one of their fifth-round picks will the Eagles use on this guy:

COLLIE IMPRESSES AT BYU PRO DAYPosted by Aaron Wilson on March 12, 2009, 1:29 p.m.Brigham Young wide receiver Austin Collie opened a few eyes of NFL teams at his campus Pro Day, “wowing scouts with his catching ability,” according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.Collie, 24, measured in at 6-foot-1, 196 pounds and turned in respectable 40-yard dash times of 4.53 and 4.54 seconds. He also registered a 4.07 short shuttle drill.Like many BYU players, Collie is older than your typical NFL prospect because he served a Mormon mission while in college.

 

[CentralPA]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/0...signing-weaver/

From the article, it looks like his agent is asking for too much.

Eagles Interested In Signing Weaver

From Bob Brookover of The Philadelphia Inquirer:

An Eagles source confirmed yesterday that the team is interested in signing free-agent fullback Leonard Weaver.

The source added that negotiations with Weaver’s agent, Harold Lewis, had not become serious. The agent said that was the case and that he was not in a rush to get Weaver signed because he knows his client is a sought-after player.

“Right now, we’re just talking” with the Eagles, Lewis said. “We’re talking with many other teams as well. There’s a lot of interest because Leonard is the No. 1 fullback on the board.”

Even though Weaver is listed as a fullback, Lewis believes he brings more to the table than the average player at his position. In other words, the agent thinks Weaver should be paid more like a running back than a fullback.

“He’s definitely not the average bear,” Lewis said.

“He’s an excellent receiver, runner, and blocker. The fullback pay scale doesn’t reflect his talents. We’re just trying to find the right situation and the right contract. We can always go back to Seattle, because they’d like to have him back.”

Yes, sounds as if they are in no hurry to sign with any one. I could see the Eagles not signing him because he would "cost to much" but it also sounds as if his agent (like any good agent would) is trying to over-value him or give the perception. I have a feeling most teams will bulk at what they are asking for.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So which one of their fifth-round picks will the Eagles use on this guy:

COLLIE IMPRESSES AT BYU PRO DAYPosted by Aaron Wilson on March 12, 2009, 1:29 p.m.Brigham Young wide receiver Austin Collie opened a few eyes of NFL teams at his campus Pro Day, "wowing scouts with his catching ability," according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.Collie, 24, measured in at 6-foot-1, 196 pounds and turned in respectable 40-yard dash times of 4.53 and 4.54 seconds. He also registered a 4.07 short shuttle drill.Like many BYU players, Collie is older than your typical NFL prospect because he served a Mormon mission while in college.

Nothing says NFL Draft quite like AH drafting a Mormon, now does it?Every year....

 

[Zoomanji]

So which one of their fifth-round picks will the Eagles use on this guy:

COLLIE IMPRESSES AT BYU PRO DAYPosted by Aaron Wilson on March 12, 2009, 1:29 p.m.Brigham Young wide receiver Austin Collie opened a few eyes of NFL teams at his campus Pro Day, "wowing scouts with his catching ability," according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.Collie, 24, measured in at 6-foot-1, 196 pounds and turned in respectable 40-yard dash times of 4.53 and 4.54 seconds. He also registered a 4.07 short shuttle drill.Like many BYU players, Collie is older than your typical NFL prospect because he served a Mormon mission while in college.

Nothing says NFL Draft quite like AH drafting a Mormon, now does it?Every year....

With G. Lewis gone there is an opening for "guy who doesn't deserve to be in the NFL but is a coach's favorite"

 

[scratcher]

So which one of their fifth-round picks will the Eagles use on this guy:

COLLIE IMPRESSES AT BYU PRO DAYPosted by Aaron Wilson on March 12, 2009, 1:29 p.m.Brigham Young wide receiver Austin Collie opened a few eyes of NFL teams at his campus Pro Day, "wowing scouts with his catching ability," according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.Collie, 24, measured in at 6-foot-1, 196 pounds and turned in respectable 40-yard dash times of 4.53 and 4.54 seconds. He also registered a 4.07 short shuttle drill.Like many BYU players, Collie is older than your typical NFL prospect because he served a Mormon mission while in college.

Nothing says NFL Draft quite like AH drafting a Mormon, now does it?Every year....

With G. Lewis gone there is an opening for "guy who doesn't deserve to be in the NFL but is a coach's favorite"

Is Mahe still available?

 

[scratcher]

Looks like the Cards are actually shopping Boldin now.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/...hopping-boldin/

Kurt Warner might get to keep his $2 million, after all.

A league source tells us that the Arizona Cardinals are shopping receiver Anquan Boldin to potential trade partners.

Warner recently has suggested that he’d devote a portion of his salary to signing Boldin to a new contract. (We don’t think Warner really means it.)

Boldin, a six-year veteran, is signed through 2010. He has wanted for roughly a year a significant increase from his current range of $2.5 million to $3 million.

With teammate Larry Fitzgerald at $10 million per year, Boldin is believed to want at least $9 million annually.

Boldin previously has requested a trade. At one point after the Super Bowl, Boldin said that he would not sign a new deal with the Cardinals, and that he wanted to be dealt to a new team. More recently, he had softened in his position, expressing a willingness to consider a new long-term contract to stay with the team.

 

[TCFF]

DH, please tell us that the Eagles are going to swing for the fences on this one. I think this one move would not only drastically improve team and fan morale, but could well put us in line to make a serious run this coming year.

 

[loose circuits]

How can you not swing for the fences with Boldin. The problem is freakin Dallas (w/ the Roy deal) set the market way too high

we are also talking about the top teams in the NFC, why would they want to trade with each other. Both sides would have to really like the compensation

 

[LTsharks]

How can you not swing for the fences with Boldin. The problem is freakin Dallas (w/ the Roy deal) set the market way too highwe are also talking about the top teams in the NFC, why would they want to trade with each other. Both sides would have to really like the compensation

If they have to do the Roy Williams deal then just do it. Really, who are they getting in the 1st/3rd that does anything close to what Boldin could do for this team in the next few years? And forget about a 5th-7th round pick - the Eagles manage to come up with plenty of those every year so who cares.

 

[ThePassion]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radio

supposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?!

yikes

everyone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

 

[loose circuits]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

especially with Burress latest tickets, he hasn't grown up. Eagles need to step up to the plate or plan on being at best 2nd in the division again. G-Men have improved themselves this offseason. I'm sure they are just trying to start a biddin war, who knows who leaked the 2 1sts and 3rd. If I was Arizona, I would probably want 2 1sts...Boldin is much better than Roy

 

[Mighty Mice]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

 

[dirtywaters20]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

I'd do that deal today for Fitzgerald and not even blink.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

The Giants can have him. IMO Boldin does not demand double coverage. He is a great #2 but IMO he is not an elite #1.

 

[dotman]

If the Giants trade for Boldin the Eagles should go after Plaxico

 

[scratcher]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

The Giants can have him. IMO Boldin does not demand double coverage. He is a great #2 but IMO he is not an elite #1.

The only place Boldin is a #2 is in AZ playing next to Fitz.

 

[dotman]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

The Giants can have him. IMO Boldin does not demand double coverage. He is a great #2 but IMO he is not an elite #1.

The only place Boldin is a #2 is in AZ playing next to Fitz.

Boldin dominated as a rookie when he had no one around him. He would make the Philly offense pretty scary.

 

[JetMaxx]

Agreed. But that said he's not worth 2 #1's and a #3. I call BS on that rumor.

 

[delusional]

I could see them offering a #1 and two #3s.

I think alot will be said about his injuries though for a price tag like that which will likely drop the asking price a tad

 

[Jason Wood]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

Normally I would scoff at the rumor of the Giants offering 2 1sts and a 3rd. On the other hand, the Giants roster is really stacked, they [i'm sure] are expecting any near-term 1st round pick to be late in the 1st round [since they see themselves as perennial title contenders], and this would be a dream replacement at the WR position.I will say that IF this deal is on the table, the Eagles shouldn't match it. That's too much. You could realistically draft the next Boldin, the next Tra Thomas AND the next Brian Dawkins with those picks if you got your draft board right.

 

[ThePassion]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

Normally I would scoff at the rumor of the Giants offering 2 1sts and a 3rd. On the other hand, the Giants roster is really stacked, they [i'm sure] are expecting any near-term 1st round pick to be late in the 1st round [since they see themselves as perennial title contenders], and this would be a dream replacement at the WR position.I will say that IF this deal is on the table, the Eagles shouldn't match it. That's too much. You could realistically draft the next Boldin, the next Tra Thomas AND the next Brian Dawkins with those picks if you got your draft board right.

I agree that the Gmen would be overpaying, but the arguement is that their team is already in place, only missing piece would be Anquan and so they are willing to overpay. That being the case if I am the Eagles I have to think long and hard about letting the Gmen get Anquan.... that could seriously mean Gmen dominance in the division for a few years. It is an interesting arguement, they were comparing it to a Red Sox Yankees bidding war.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

The Giants can have him. IMO Boldin does not demand double coverage. He is a great #2 but IMO he is not an elite #1.

The only place Boldin is a #2 is in AZ playing next to Fitz.

Boldin dominated as a rookie when he had no one around him. He would make the Philly offense pretty scary.

Sorry but the guy has only had double digit TDs once in his career, has only played two complete seasons with out missing a game due to injury, a yards per catch under 13, and he ranks among the highest fumblers among WRs. Is he better than any one we have?, yes. Do I give up two firsts for him?, no ... and I do not think the guy is an elite #1. Is he a #1?, sure on many teams he is. But he is not one of those dominate #1's that you throw all of your first day picks at.

 

[Game Time]

Agreed with all here.. Would love to have him, but not for 2 first round picks plus more.... One first and 2 3rd's I could live with.... And I think Weaver would be a HUGE addition to this team.... A FB who can block, get tough yards and MOST IMPORTANTLY for any WCO...... catch and run after the catch....

 

[CentralPA]

2 first and a 3rd, that's crazy. At the same time the thought of Boldin on that Giants team is scary, very very scary.

 

[GoBirds]

2 first and a 3rd, that's crazy. At the same time the thought of Boldin on that Giants team is scary, very very scary.

Think of it this way, we would only have to give up a Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougle, and Ryan Moats to get an Anquan Boldin. I'll take it!

 

[loose circuits]

just got done listening to 950 am in Philly ESPN radiosupposedly the NY Giants have offered 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for Anquan??!?!?! yikeseveryone was freaking out about whether or not the Eagles would overpay to outbid the Gmen.... I think most agreed that it was not likely

If that is really an offer on the table, Arizona would be foolish not to take it. And, Philly would be silly to outbid that price tag, IMO. I don't see ANY WR being worth 2 firsts and a third.

The Giants can have him. IMO Boldin does not demand double coverage. He is a great #2 but IMO he is not an elite #1.

The only place Boldin is a #2 is in AZ playing next to Fitz.

Boldin dominated as a rookie when he had no one around him. He would make the Philly offense pretty scary.

Sorry but the guy has only had double digit TDs once in his career, has only played two complete seasons with out missing a game due to injury, a yards per catch under 13, and he ranks among the highest fumblers among WRs. Is he better than any one we have?, yes. Do I give up two firsts for him?, no ... and I do not think the guy is an elite #1. Is he a #1?, sure on many teams he is. But he is not one of those dominate #1's that you throw all of your first day picks at.

is it important to keep him away from the Giants as well? We could find out at least twice a year if he was worth it or not. I'd rather see them with a bunch of guys we can single cover and focus on shutting down Jacobs/Bradshaw/Ware

 

[JAA]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

 

[CentralPA]

2 first and a 3rd, that's crazy. At the same time the thought of Boldin on that Giants team is scary, very very scary.

Think of it this way, we would only have to give up a Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougle, and Ryan Moats to get an Anquan Boldin. I'll take it!

Well when you put it that way it sounds genius

 

[scratcher]

Eagles await Weaver's decisionFree-agent fullback Leonard Weaver is close to deciding where he'll sign."We are talking and hope to work something out in the very near future with one of the teams that is interested in Leonard," Weaver's agent, Harold Lewis, wrote yesterday via e-mail.Lewis said several teams were interested in Weaver, but the only one he mentioned besides the Eagles was the Seattle Seahawks, for whom Weaver played during his first four NFL seasons.Weaver, 26, spoke with ESPN 950 radio Wednesday night and said he would like to sign with the Eagles. An Eagles source said earlier in the week that the team was interested in the versatile fullback.The Eagles could want Weaver to sign a short-term deal similar to the ones recently signed by free-agent safeties Sean Jones and Rashad Baker. Jones and Baker each signed for one year, but the Eagles may be willing to give Weaver a two-year deal.

 

[scratcher]

2 first and a 3rd, that's crazy. At the same time the thought of Boldin on that Giants team is scary, very very scary.

Think of it this way, we would only have to give up a Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougle, and Ryan Moats to get an Anquan Boldin. I'll take it!

or McNabb, Andrews and Westbrook...

 

[GoBirds]

2 first and a 3rd, that's crazy. At the same time the thought of Boldin on that Giants team is scary, very very scary.

Think of it this way, we would only have to give up a Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougle, and Ryan Moats to get an Anquan Boldin. I'll take it!

or McNabb, Andrews and Westbrook...

No, I prefer my way better. Plus McNabb was #2 overall, hopefully we don't see those days again anytime soon.

 

[stevegamer]

Eagles await Weaver's decisionFree-agent fullback Leonard Weaver is close to deciding where he'll sign."We are talking and hope to work something out in the very near future with one of the teams that is interested in Leonard," Weaver's agent, Harold Lewis, wrote yesterday via e-mail.Lewis said several teams were interested in Weaver, but the only one he mentioned besides the Eagles was the Seattle Seahawks, for whom Weaver played during his first four NFL seasons.Weaver, 26, spoke with ESPN 950 radio Wednesday night and said he would like to sign with the Eagles. An Eagles source said earlier in the week that the team was interested in the versatile fullback.The Eagles could want Weaver to sign a short-term deal similar to the ones recently signed by free-agent safeties Sean Jones and Rashad Baker. Jones and Baker each signed for one year, but the Eagles may be willing to give Weaver a two-year deal.

I will be happy whichever way this turns out as a Seahawks & Eagles fan.Weaver is a very good FB, who can do more than just block & catch. If he re-signs in Seattle, he's got a shot to get a lot of carries - he might be the best runner they have on the roster.

 

[CentralPA]

Eagles await Weaver's decisionFree-agent fullback Leonard Weaver is close to deciding where he'll sign."We are talking and hope to work something out in the very near future with one of the teams that is interested in Leonard," Weaver's agent, Harold Lewis, wrote yesterday via e-mail.Lewis said several teams were interested in Weaver, but the only one he mentioned besides the Eagles was the Seattle Seahawks, for whom Weaver played during his first four NFL seasons.Weaver, 26, spoke with ESPN 950 radio Wednesday night and said he would like to sign with the Eagles. An Eagles source said earlier in the week that the team was interested in the versatile fullback.The Eagles could want Weaver to sign a short-term deal similar to the ones recently signed by free-agent safeties Sean Jones and Rashad Baker. Jones and Baker each signed for one year, but the Eagles may be willing to give Weaver a two-year deal.

I will be happy whichever way this turns out as a Seahawks & Eagles fan.Weaver is a very good FB, who can do more than just block & catch. If he re-signs in Seattle, he's got a shot to get a lot of carries - he might be the best runner they have on the roster.

I really hope he goes with the Eagles. They need some semblance of talent at that position because it was just god awful this past year.

 

[unckeyherb]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

normally I'd agree, and I probably still do, but let me devil's advocate here. Giants are pretty much set across the board with talent at all key areas. Strike that, YOUNG talent at all key areas. Not having Plax at the end of the season killed them. IMO Boldin, while not the deep threat/fade route monster that Plax is, still is better than Plax overall. When I think of a healthy Jacobs, Eli, Steve Smith, Kevin Boss AND Boldin combined with guys like Tuck and Osi, I get sick to my stomach. Seriously that feels to me like a team a few years ago in the AFC East...and we're the Jets.

So if you are the Eagles and you think that as well, you are really giving up two first round picks for a stud WR and for blocking your Divisional rival from completing their puzzle. Worth it IMO. Especially if you are convinced in the rest of your offense..

 

[JAA]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

normally I'd agree, and I probably still do, but let me devil's advocate here. Giants are pretty much set across the board with talent at all key areas. Strike that, YOUNG talent at all key areas. Not having Plax at the end of the season killed them. IMO Boldin, while not the deep threat/fade route monster that Plax is, still is better than Plax overall. When I think of a healthy Jacobs, Eli, Steve Smith, Kevin Boss AND Boldin combined with guys like Tuck and Osi, I get sick to my stomach. Seriously that feels to me like a team a few years ago in the AFC East...and we're the Jets.

So if you are the Eagles and you think that as well, you are really giving up two first round picks for a stud WR and for blocking your Divisional rival from completing their puzzle. Worth it IMO. Especially if you are convinced in the rest of your offense..

I want Boldin, dont get me wrong. But there is a lot of validity in Boldin's negatives. What has he done other than his rookie season to prove he is a franchise WR1? Also, if you look at the FA WRs for next season (posted by Wood IIRC a few pages back) there is are a lot of options next season, much more talen than this offseason.

 

[unckeyherb]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

normally I'd agree, and I probably still do, but let me devil's advocate here. Giants are pretty much set across the board with talent at all key areas. Strike that, YOUNG talent at all key areas. Not having Plax at the end of the season killed them. IMO Boldin, while not the deep threat/fade route monster that Plax is, still is better than Plax overall. When I think of a healthy Jacobs, Eli, Steve Smith, Kevin Boss AND Boldin combined with guys like Tuck and Osi, I get sick to my stomach. Seriously that feels to me like a team a few years ago in the AFC East...and we're the Jets.

So if you are the Eagles and you think that as well, you are really giving up two first round picks for a stud WR and for blocking your Divisional rival from completing their puzzle. Worth it IMO. Especially if you are convinced in the rest of your offense..

I want Boldin, dont get me wrong. But there is a lot of validity in Boldin's negatives. What has he done other than his rookie season to prove he is a franchise WR1? Also, if you look at the FA WRs for next season (posted by Wood IIRC a few pages back) there is are a lot of options next season, much more talen than this offseason.

no question. And honestly, I don't know what he'll be without Fitz, similarly I was very down on Housh without CJ. My only point is that so far, in a majority of the fans eyes, this has been a disasterous offseason. The only way it could be worse is if we pass up on a (legitimate or perceived) hugely needed WR that was available. The only way it could get worse than that, is if our lethargy led to the culmination of a possible dynasty in the NFC East.

 

[Lehigh98]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

normally I'd agree, and I probably still do, but let me devil's advocate here. Giants are pretty much set across the board with talent at all key areas. Strike that, YOUNG talent at all key areas. Not having Plax at the end of the season killed them. IMO Boldin, while not the deep threat/fade route monster that Plax is, still is better than Plax overall. When I think of a healthy Jacobs, Eli, Steve Smith, Kevin Boss AND Boldin combined with guys like Tuck and Osi, I get sick to my stomach. Seriously that feels to me like a team a few years ago in the AFC East...and we're the Jets.

So if you are the Eagles and you think that as well, you are really giving up two first round picks for a stud WR and for blocking your Divisional rival from completing their puzzle. Worth it IMO. Especially if you are convinced in the rest of your offense..

I want Boldin, dont get me wrong. But there is a lot of validity in Boldin's negatives. What has he done other than his rookie season to prove he is a franchise WR1? Also, if you look at the FA WRs for next season (posted by Wood IIRC a few pages back) there is are a lot of options next season, much more talen than this offseason.

no question. And honestly, I don't know what he'll be without Fitz, similarly I was very down on Housh without CJ. My only point is that so far, in a majority of the fans eyes, this has been a disasterous offseason. The only way it could be worse is if we pass up on a (legitimate or perceived) hugely needed WR that was available. The only way it could get worse than that, is if our lethargy led to the culmination of a possible dynasty in the NFC East.

The only way it could get worse than that is if AR traded McNabb to North Korea and he was a key factor in their subsequent world domination.

 

[unckeyherb]

cant give up 2 1sts for Boldin

normally I'd agree, and I probably still do, but let me devil's advocate here. Giants are pretty much set across the board with talent at all key areas. Strike that, YOUNG talent at all key areas. Not having Plax at the end of the season killed them. IMO Boldin, while not the deep threat/fade route monster that Plax is, still is better than Plax overall. When I think of a healthy Jacobs, Eli, Steve Smith, Kevin Boss AND Boldin combined with guys like Tuck and Osi, I get sick to my stomach. Seriously that feels to me like a team a few years ago in the AFC East...and we're the Jets.

So if you are the Eagles and you think that as well, you are really giving up two first round picks for a stud WR and for blocking your Divisional rival from completing their puzzle. Worth it IMO. Especially if you are convinced in the rest of your offense..

I want Boldin, dont get me wrong. But there is a lot of validity in Boldin's negatives. What has he done other than his rookie season to prove he is a franchise WR1? Also, if you look at the FA WRs for next season (posted by Wood IIRC a few pages back) there is are a lot of options next season, much more talen than this offseason.

no question. And honestly, I don't know what he'll be without Fitz, similarly I was very down on Housh without CJ. My only point is that so far, in a majority of the fans eyes, this has been a disasterous offseason. The only way it could be worse is if we pass up on a (legitimate or perceived) hugely needed WR that was available. The only way it could get worse than that, is if our lethargy led to the culmination of a possible dynasty in the NFC East.

The only way it could get worse than that is if AR traded McNabb to North Korea and he was a key factor in their subsequent world domination.

exactly.

 

[Domination]

Wow, away for a week and sadly missed nothing.

I think they should:

1) sign Weaver he would be a huge addition to that offense

2) let Giants have Boldin for that price

3) sign Holt to a 1 year deal, as I think he still has something let in the tank

4) trade up in draft for an OT (would love Monroe)

 

[Jason Wood]

Admittedly I don't know how healthy Holt really is. But assuming he could pass a physical with flying colors, I would run, not walk, to sign him to a 3-year deal and go from there. Sure, i would love Boldin and am not ruling it out until something officially happens. But we're just not going to pay anything close to 2 1st rounders for him, so if that's REALLY the price tag, I can't even entertain the idea we're in the hunt.

Lots of love for Weaver, but the Eagles have rarely made use of versatile fullbacks or H-backs in the Reid era.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Admittedly I don't know how healthy Holt really is. But assuming he could pass a physical with flying colors, I would run, not walk, to sign him to a 3-year deal and go from there. Sure, i would love Boldin and am not ruling it out until something officially happens. But we're just not going to pay anything close to 2 1st rounders for him, so if that's REALLY the price tag, I can't even entertain the idea we're in the hunt.Lots of love for Weaver, but the Eagles have rarely made use of versatile fullbacks or H-backs in the Reid era.

Not that I disagree with your last point, but who have they had that fits that bill? Seriously, they treat the position as such an afterthought that nobody even comes close to fitting that description. Ritchie is the closest thing & even then, he was an excellent run blocker & not much else. I'm cool with that. I keep hearing conflicting opinions about how effective a blocker Weaver was with Seattle. Does anyone truly know? The primary trait of importance in a fullback is to block...if they don't excel at that, what's the point? I'm tired of the tweeners that don't excel at either (Martin & Tapeh, etc.)

 

[NajehHejan]

Very quiet offseason. Let's hope the capologists know what they're doing.....

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Very quiet offseason. Let's hope the capologists know what they're doing.....

eff the capologists...lets hope the talent evaluators know what they're doing

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Very quiet offseason. Let's hope the capologists know what they're doing.....

eff the capologists...lets hope the talent evaluators know what they're doing

unfortunately THE capologist is calling the shots

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Very quiet offseason. Let's hope the capologists know what they're doing.....

eff the capologists...lets hope the talent evaluators know what they're doing

unfortunately THE capologist is calling the shots