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***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Jeff Pasquino said:
I've been hearing a rumor the Eagles are talking with the Jags about moving up to No. 8. Have you heard anything like that DH?
Yes, I have. They have spoken, but that is all. I get a feeling that they have one guy in mind (possibly a DE) and if he's there, they might pull the trigger.
Neither Brown or Orapko IMO is worth giving up that much to move up.
Based on ESPN draft pick value chart:Pick 8 is worth 1400Pick 21 is worth 800Pick 28 is worth 660Would the Eagles really give up these two first rounders? Everything I read is that this draft class is weak at the top and the real value is in picks 15 to 25. Many teams are rumored to be looking to get out of those top spots. I could see them jumping up for one of the top offensive tackles (J Smith or Monroe) but I would not be jumping at the DE's. Especially with the needs of this team and the players who should be there at picks 21 and 28.
The chart is seriously flawed ever since the rookies started getting too much $$$$ at the top of the draft.Few want to be there. Sure you can get a top prospect, but let's face it - 50% fail at either pick 1 or pick 41. That's how it goes. Many, MANY GMs would rather have end of 1st / top of 2nd draft picks than a Top 5 pick. In fact, most GMs covet Round 2 picks more than early firsts under this cap structure. Second rounders are very cheap and you still are likely to get close to first rounder talents. That's why we see the flurry of trades as Pick 33 comes on the clock every Draft Day.
Jeff, So you're saying it won't cost that much to move up to 8? I hope you are right if they do move up. I would think the Eagles would rather have those 2 picks in the twenties than commit to that 8th pick like you said. In fact I would love Moreno at 21 and trade 28+3rd and 5th for Boldin. Or 28 for Jason Peters. Grab a TE in the second and then it's off to the Super Bowl Baby!
 
DH- any news on the Boldin front?

Also- Jaws thought heyward-bey would be perfect for us.. any idea if we have any interest (in him or any other wideouts)?

 
With the Cardinals and Pro Bowl wide receiver Anquan Boldin still seeking a resolution to their differences, the team said Wednesday it is willing to entertain trade offers from teams interested in Boldin’s services.

While the team still wants to retain Boldin long-term and negotiate a contract extension, coach Ken Whisenhunt said, it also wants to keep all options open with the draft approaching.

“Before the draft, you know there is going to talk about Anquan and his situation and a trade,” Whisenhunt said. “Since not a whole lot has changed with his contractual situation, we know that will come back up.

“It would be foolish from our standpoint not to listen to those opportunities and see what actually exists. But I want to make the point … our goal is to re-sign him to a long-term deal. That hasn’t changed.”

Said general manager Rod Graves, “We just think it is prudent for us to evaluate all our options.”

The Cardinals have already talked some with other teams, although Graves declined to say which ones.

Boldin, who has been looking for a new contract, still has two years left on his current deal. Because of that, the Cardinals don’t feel a sense of urgency to deal Boldin. If a trade isn’t consummated before the first day of the draft April 25, it is unlikely Boldin is going anywhere.

“Hopefully something gets done,” Boldin told cbssports.com this week. “We'll see what happens. At this point I'm leaving it up to everyone else and just trying to enjoy life.” The comment echoed similar sentiments from Boldin during Kurt Warner’s charity flag football tournament last month.

The market for Boldin is unknown. Reportedly, the Browns would consider trading wide receiver Braylon Edwards, who does not have Boldin’s résumé. Teams like the Giants, Eagles and Bears – all of whom are expected to be possible NFC playoff foils for the Cards – might be in the market for a wideout.

But after the Cowboys gave Detroit a first-, third- and sixth-round draft pick for Roy Williams last season – and most don’t consider Williams as good as Boldin – the Cards are expected to want a significant return to let Boldin go.

Graves said he didn’t want to comment on what the Cards would seek in a trade.

Even Boldin’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said in a radio appearance earlier this offseason Boldin should be worth at least the same in a trade as Williams.

Boldin, who has not appeared at any of the Cardinals’ voluntary workouts this offseason, will be in Florida this weekend hosting his annual “Q Fest” to raise money for his charitable foundation.

Rosenhaus did visit with Graves last week, but Graves said that meeting and the Cards’ current thoughts on Boldin are unrelated. Rosenhaus does represent a handful of other Cardinals, including Edgerrin James, Darnell Dockett and Antrel Rolle.

Getting a new contract worked out “is going to be a challenge going forward,” Graves acknowledged. “We realize (Boldin’s) value and what he means to our football team. … We are having to weigh a lot of other factors into the process and timing is one of those things as far as getting something done.”

Boldin has been upset with his contract status for more than a year. Last season the idea of a trade was broached, although Boldin’s situation did not become a national story until Boldin was blunt during a meeting with the media on the first day of training camp.

The tension remained all season, although Boldin still played well and was an integral part of the Cards’ offense. His issues seemed to resurface in the postseason after he left the field quickly during the celebration of the NFC Championship, but Boldin deflected that talk through the Super Bowl.

He reiterated his stance that he didn’t want to stay in Arizona during Pro Bowl week, but then softened that view around the time of the NFL scouting combine, when Rosenhaus told Graves Boldin was now again open to a new contract.

“We didn’t want it out there that we were trying to trade Anquan – that’s not our position,” Whisenhunt said. “We still feel strongly about Anquan and think highly of his ability. But just so there isn’t speculation, it is an option.”

Boldin was named as a Pro Bowl starter – his third Pro Bowl selection in six seasons – last year after making 89 catches for 1,038 yards and 11 touchdowns, despite missing four regular-season games with injuries. He was also plagued with a hamstring injury in the playoffs, when he made 14 receptions for 190 yards while playing in three of the four postseason games.

Whisenhunt said he didn’t think the trade exploration would negatively affect Boldin or the team should Boldin stay.

“I don’t think so,” Whisenhunt said. “Like I said, this doesn’t mean we don’t want to work out an extension with Anquan. But we know, over the next week and a half this time of year, there is going to be talk. It has been for more than a year.

“Our biggest fear is that if it gets out, ‘They are discussing a trade with this team.’ We just want to acknowledge there have been teams that have called and we will listen as one of our options.”
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2969
Why would Rosenhaus go on record saying that Boldin is worth as much as Williams? That can only hurt Q's chances of a trade. Im fairly confident NO team will give up what Dal did to get Roy. No one is that desperate.
 
With the Cardinals and Pro Bowl wide receiver Anquan Boldin still seeking a resolution to their differences, the team said Wednesday it is willing to entertain trade offers from teams interested in Boldin’s services.

While the team still wants to retain Boldin long-term and negotiate a contract extension, coach Ken Whisenhunt said, it also wants to keep all options open with the draft approaching.

“Before the draft, you know there is going to talk about Anquan and his situation and a trade,” Whisenhunt said. “Since not a whole lot has changed with his contractual situation, we know that will come back up.

“It would be foolish from our standpoint not to listen to those opportunities and see what actually exists. But I want to make the point … our goal is to re-sign him to a long-term deal. That hasn’t changed.”

Said general manager Rod Graves, “We just think it is prudent for us to evaluate all our options.”

The Cardinals have already talked some with other teams, although Graves declined to say which ones.

Boldin, who has been looking for a new contract, still has two years left on his current deal. Because of that, the Cardinals don’t feel a sense of urgency to deal Boldin. If a trade isn’t consummated before the first day of the draft April 25, it is unlikely Boldin is going anywhere.

“Hopefully something gets done,” Boldin told cbssports.com this week. “We'll see what happens. At this point I'm leaving it up to everyone else and just trying to enjoy life.” The comment echoed similar sentiments from Boldin during Kurt Warner’s charity flag football tournament last month.

The market for Boldin is unknown. Reportedly, the Browns would consider trading wide receiver Braylon Edwards, who does not have Boldin’s résumé. Teams like the Giants, Eagles and Bears – all of whom are expected to be possible NFC playoff foils for the Cards – might be in the market for a wideout.

But after the Cowboys gave Detroit a first-, third- and sixth-round draft pick for Roy Williams last season – and most don’t consider Williams as good as Boldin – the Cards are expected to want a significant return to let Boldin go.

Graves said he didn’t want to comment on what the Cards would seek in a trade.

Even Boldin’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said in a radio appearance earlier this offseason Boldin should be worth at least the same in a trade as Williams.

Boldin, who has not appeared at any of the Cardinals’ voluntary workouts this offseason, will be in Florida this weekend hosting his annual “Q Fest” to raise money for his charitable foundation.

Rosenhaus did visit with Graves last week, but Graves said that meeting and the Cards’ current thoughts on Boldin are unrelated. Rosenhaus does represent a handful of other Cardinals, including Edgerrin James, Darnell Dockett and Antrel Rolle.

Getting a new contract worked out “is going to be a challenge going forward,” Graves acknowledged. “We realize (Boldin’s) value and what he means to our football team. … We are having to weigh a lot of other factors into the process and timing is one of those things as far as getting something done.”

Boldin has been upset with his contract status for more than a year. Last season the idea of a trade was broached, although Boldin’s situation did not become a national story until Boldin was blunt during a meeting with the media on the first day of training camp.

The tension remained all season, although Boldin still played well and was an integral part of the Cards’ offense. His issues seemed to resurface in the postseason after he left the field quickly during the celebration of the NFC Championship, but Boldin deflected that talk through the Super Bowl.

He reiterated his stance that he didn’t want to stay in Arizona during Pro Bowl week, but then softened that view around the time of the NFL scouting combine, when Rosenhaus told Graves Boldin was now again open to a new contract.

“We didn’t want it out there that we were trying to trade Anquan – that’s not our position,” Whisenhunt said. “We still feel strongly about Anquan and think highly of his ability. But just so there isn’t speculation, it is an option.”

Boldin was named as a Pro Bowl starter – his third Pro Bowl selection in six seasons – last year after making 89 catches for 1,038 yards and 11 touchdowns, despite missing four regular-season games with injuries. He was also plagued with a hamstring injury in the playoffs, when he made 14 receptions for 190 yards while playing in three of the four postseason games.

Whisenhunt said he didn’t think the trade exploration would negatively affect Boldin or the team should Boldin stay.

“I don’t think so,” Whisenhunt said. “Like I said, this doesn’t mean we don’t want to work out an extension with Anquan. But we know, over the next week and a half this time of year, there is going to be talk. It has been for more than a year.

“Our biggest fear is that if it gets out, ‘They are discussing a trade with this team.’ We just want to acknowledge there have been teams that have called and we will listen as one of our options.”
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2969
Why would Rosenhaus go on record saying that Boldin is worth as much as Williams? That can only hurt Q's chances of a trade. Im fairly confident NO team will give up what Dal did to get Roy. No one is that desperate.
Yeah, I didn't think that made much sense either. As your agent you WANT him to get traded, traded to a team that will pay him the dollars he deserves. there might be a team that is willing to match what Dallas gave for Roy Williams but not more than that.
 
BTW, thanks for the report DH. DE? I guess I can see the need a little bit but they still have Abiamiri and Bryan Smith, i'm guessing these two are being considered busts then?

 
As an Eagles fan I don't want to see them give up a lot to move up and take a DE. But a small part of me would enjoy watching the circus as other fans' heads explode at that occurrence.

 
CentralPA said:
BTW, thanks for the report DH. DE? I guess I can see the need a little bit but they still have Abiamiri and Bryan Smith, i'm guessing these two are being considered busts then?
Abiamiri played great when healthy. No reason to consider him a bust. Bryan Smith still hasnt even seen the field yet...
 
I would be perfectly happy to trade both 1sts this year. #28 for Peters and #21 for Boldin. Couldn't ask for a better WR and OT with those two picks.

 
Rotoworld is reporting the asking price for Boldin is a 1st and a 3rd. I would jump on that in a heartbeat if I were the Eagles. If they could trade the #28 for Boldin and grab a RB woth the #21, I would be very happy.

Peters would be nice to have, but his attitide bothers me, plus the fact he wants to be paid like Gross was just paid, and I don't see OT as a primary need, assuming Herrmans and/or Andrews works out at LT. He would be a luxury, not a necessity to me.

 
I dont see what we would be looking at #8 unless all OTs were slotted to be gone. Maybe Maybin as he looks to have an excellent motor a la Justin Tuck.

FWIW - I like Maybin on film

 
I've been hearing a rumor the Eagles are talking with the Jags about moving up to No. 8. Have you heard anything like that DH?
Yes, I have. They have spoken, but that is all. I get a feeling that they have one guy in mind (possibly a DE) and if he's there, they might pull the trigger.
DE is just your gut feeling? I would assume they would move up if Smith or Monroe were still on the board
 
I've been hearing a rumor the Eagles are talking with the Jags about moving up to No. 8. Have you heard anything like that DH?
Yes, I have. They have spoken, but that is all. I get a feeling that they have one guy in mind (possibly a DE) and if he's there, they might pull the trigger.
DE is just your gut feeling? I would assume they would move up if Smith or Monroe were still on the board
No, he said straight up that there was a DE they liked. Obviously he didn't tell me which one.....
 
My gut feel is that moving up for a DE would be a mistake.

The 3 biggest needs are at OL, RB and TE.

The only way I would be satisfied with not going for those 3 positions in the first 2-3 rounds would be a trade for Boldin. Even a trade for Peters addresses one of the three big needs.

Granted they may have a sleeper in their eyes for a Day 2 pick, but that's a big gamble. They could easily move up on Day 2 to take him, but waiting for 80+ players to come off the board to make a big move is a risk for the 2009 season. Yes I know they typically draft for 2+ years down the road, but the first 2-3 picks / players they get this year have to have a very good chance to contribute this year.

Gone are the days of waiting for rookies to develop - at least under the current CBA. If FA moves to 6 years (like it might in 2010) then you can start cultivating young talent and let them "red shirt" for a year or two. With 53 man rosters and a good nucleus on the team (and an aging Pro Bowl RB) they need to push for 2009 and 2010 title shots.

 
I am listening to the "Pac Man" show out of Charlotte and they just mentioned that Peppers to the Eagles is a real possibility

Note: I am listening over the internet so there is no link (wfnz.com for those interested)

 
I am listening to the "Pac Man" show out of Charlotte and they just mentioned that Peppers to the Eagles is a real possibility Note: I am listening over the internet so there is no link (wfnz.com for those interested)
I almost brought this up yesterday. Even if it cost both 1st rd picks, which is what it would cost to get to #8, I would definitely look into a trade for Peppers. I think the price would be lower than that, and adding him to the d-line would mean they would have to blitz alot less.DH, I know this sounds like a fantasy football scenario, but with all of their cap room and picks, is it possible that they could actually add 2 studs in exchange for some early picks?Maybe I am crazy, but I would give a 1 & 3 for Peters, and a 1 & 2 for Peppers. It would cost alot, and we would not have any early draft picks, but it would solidify both lines and give us a shot at a title this year.
 
Congrats Dawk :pickle:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4075561

NFL lauds Dawkins' community service

DENVER -- New Denver Broncos safety Brian Dawkins has won the 43rd annual Byron "Whizzer" White award honoring the 13-year veteran's community work while with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Dawkins won the award Thursday night at the NFL Players Association gala in Washington, D.C.

Dawkins received the award as the NFL player who best served his team, community and country in the spirit of White, who was a Supreme Court justice, pro football player and humanitarian.

"This is an absolute blessing," said Dawkins, whose wife, Connie, accepted the award on his behalf.

Dawkins, who joined the Broncos this spring as a free agent, served as regional spokesman for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation while in Philadelphia. He also worked with the Burn Prevention Foundation, hosting an annual golf tournament to raise awareness and money for its programs.

 
Domination said:
I am listening to the "Pac Man" show out of Charlotte and they just mentioned that Peppers to the Eagles is a real possibility Note: I am listening over the internet so there is no link (wfnz.com for those interested)
I almost brought this up yesterday. Even if it cost both 1st rd picks, which is what it would cost to get to #8, I would definitely look into a trade for Peppers. I think the price would be lower than that, and adding him to the d-line would mean they would have to blitz alot less.DH, I know this sounds like a fantasy football scenario, but with all of their cap room and picks, is it possible that they could actually add 2 studs in exchange for some early picks?Maybe I am crazy, but I would give a 1 & 3 for Peters, and a 1 & 2 for Peppers. It would cost alot, and we would not have any early draft picks, but it would solidify both lines and give us a shot at a title this year.
I think both players are really reaching, but I could definately see them trading for one of them. I haven't heard anything re: Peppers though.
 
Who would you guys rather have Boldin or Edwards?
is paying the same price, I want Boldin. Our offense is geared for YAC, BW is more of a deep threat
And thats Boldins weakest point. I think the Eagles offense biggest need is a major Red Zone target. I would love to see them get someone with some real size to complement DJax and White Lightning.
Boldins strongest point is YAC. Have you looked at the numbers?RE Red Zone target: Id be more worried about the running game in the redzone than a WR threat.

 
Anyone else think a Boldin trade might have to be a draft day trade?

Assuming the teams in play are the eagles, giants and cards. And they draft 21 (eagles) 28 (eagles) 29 (NYG) and cards (31).

Lets also assume that the reports are correct and the Cards are asking for something like 1,3 or 1,3,5.

So the Cards ask for 21, the eagles shoot back with the 28 knowing that the next suitor is still one pick lower at 29.

I think the Cards would hold out for the 21 at least until the ealges either trade the 21 or take someone at 21. If they wait for the eagles to take someone at 21 they might as well wait another hour and make sure if they trade boldin they're getting a guy they like at 28.

The only whole I see in this scenario is that it would be tough to get this big of a trade together in the middle of the first round while teams are working those phones on any number of other (and probably smaller) deals

 
:banned: Maybe it's just me, but I don't really want to give away high picks for a WR right now. I actually like what we have (finally). I'd rather spend one of those picks on a high TE and a high RB.

That's not to say I wouldn't trade a high pick for an impact player...I just don't think another WR is necessarily going to get us over the hump at this point.

I could see trading for Peters.

I could see trading for Peppers (depending on the cost).

Boldin at his expected cap figure with those picks? I'm not so sure.

We could create some flexibility trading for a RB. Oakland has MANY needs. Rb isn't one of them. Michael Bush would be an outstanding COP back in Philly with at least a chance to become a replacement. I wonder what Oakland would want in trade? (Probably too much given his contract...but as long as we're daydreaming......)

 
Who would you guys rather have Boldin or Edwards?
is paying the same price, I want Boldin. Out offense is geared for YAC, BW is more of a deep threat
Edwards for me. He's a couple years younger and has a higher ceiling (considering his 2007 numbers and the fact that we haven't seen him perform with an above average QB and some real talent on offense). I think Braylon's game would mesh well with McNabb's penchant for tossing it deep.
 
Who would you guys rather have Boldin or Edwards?
is paying the same price, I want Boldin. Out offense is geared for YAC, BW is more of a deep threat
Edwards for me. He's a couple years younger and has a higher ceiling (considering his 2007 numbers and the fact that we haven't seen him perform with an above average QB and some real talent on offense). I think Braylon's game would mesh well with McNabb's penchant for tossing it deep.
But when you compare Edwards' strengths to what's already on the team....does he add enough to justify the expected cost? I'm not so sure. If the costs are the same, I'd rather take Boldin. Boldin replaces Avant's skillset...Edwards replaces Curtis'.
 
Who would you guys rather have Boldin or Edwards?
is paying the same price, I want Boldin. Out offense is geared for YAC, BW is more of a deep threat
Edwards for me. He's a couple years younger and has a higher ceiling (considering his 2007 numbers and the fact that we haven't seen him perform with an above average QB and some real talent on offense). I think Braylon's game would mesh well with McNabb's penchant for tossing it deep.
But when you compare Edwards' strengths to what's already on the team....does he add enough to justify the expected cost? I'm not so sure. If the costs are the same, I'd rather take Boldin. Boldin replaces Avant's skillset...Edwards replaces Curtis'.
Wouldn't everyone agree that what the Eagles are missing is a red zone target? It has been their biggest need for quite a while now and I do not think that Boldin complements our group of WR's very well. We have a burner in DJax, we have two slot guys one that can also take it deep in Curtis and one that always seems to make the 3rd down catch or that tough catch over the middle in Avant (who averaged slightly more YPC than Boldin). While Boldin has a very good skill set, he does not bring much to the table that the Eagles do not already have in their wr corp.
 
Who would you guys rather have Boldin or Edwards?
is paying the same price, I want Boldin. Our offense is geared for YAC, BW is more of a deep threat
And thats Boldins weakest point. I think the Eagles offense biggest need is a major Red Zone target. I would love to see them get someone with some real size to complement DJax and White Lightning.
Did you mean to say Boldin doesn't get YAC? Because he's one of the best in the league:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yRECPT_YAC.html

Or did you mean that you think the Eagles need someone more of a vertical threat who doesn't make his living after the catch?

And when you say "real size"...how do you define that? Because Boldin is 6'1", 216 pounds while Edwards is 6'3", 206 pounds. Both are big receivers.

No disrespect to Boldin at ALL but he could not have caught 16 TDs in one year from Derek Anderson.
Zadok, singling out Edwards best season, and one that is a major outlier is hardly playing fair here.Career TD% -- Edwards 5.9%, Boldin 4.9%

That includes Edwards 16 TD season, of course. Excluding his 16 TD season, his TD% is just 3.8%. Excluding Boldin's best TD season, his TD% rate is 4.3%.

Career Catch% -- Edwards 48.2%, Boldin 61.6%

If you're basing your evaluation of the two players on what they've done on the field to date, Boldin is the superior player objectively. If you want to throw in Edwards age and better injury history, then I can see it being a more subjective debate.

 
Wouldn't everyone agree that what the Eagles are missing is a red zone target? It has been their biggest need for quite a while now and I do not think that Boldin complements our group of WR's very well. We have a burner in DJax, we have two slot guys one that can also take it deep in Curtis and one that always seems to make the 3rd down catch or that tough catch over the middle in Avant (who averaged slightly more YPC than Boldin). While Boldin has a very good skill set, he does not bring much to the table that the Eagles do not already have in their wr corp.
There is a difference between doing it a few times a year, and doing it a few times a game. Boldin had 89 catches in 12 games last year and has broken 100 receptions. He is exactly what Donovan needs - a reliable target/safety valve who can break tackles. He is by far a better red zone target than the WRs we have, unless Baskett becomes more reliable.
 
I'd like to preface this by saying I'm not an Eagles homer by any means and only follow them as a McNabb fan/owner.

Why do the Eagles need a WR? They are better at the position then they have ever been in McNabb's career, with the possible exception of 2004 and even that year the position wasn't better, just the #1 guy. Philly's top-4 WR's now are better than the#2 when TO was there.

If I were in Phiily's shoes I'd think Peters, or especially Peppers would make much more sense than going after a WR.

What's wrong with:

Jackson- a rookie who went for almost 1,000 yards and is only going to get better.

Curtis- a solid WR who is only an injury filled year removed from an 1,100 yard season.

Avant- a young WR who seemed to really turn it on down the stretch.

Brown- a still young WR who was injured, but has shown himself to be a capable #2 at times.

It just seems to me that compares pretty favorably to the rest of the league. There aren't many teams who have 4 quality WR's. Hell, if Cleveland trades Edwards, they might not even have 1.

Now, the argument would seem to be, well yes there are 4 capable guys, but none of those guys are anything special.

I don't think that's fair to say. Are we sure Jackson isn't special, not many guys come into the league and have back to back 100-yard games to start their career. Why can't he have a Greg Jennings or Roddy White like breakout now that he's got a year of experience. Watching most of the games last year, he seemed like someone who could have had another 200-300 yards if not for a couple mental errors, which are common for rookies.

I just don't like the investment of a 1st rounder plus more to add another WR, especially when they can(likely) get help at OT or DE(more pressing needs IMO) for the same, or even a lower price.

 
They're not trading for a WR. I know Eagles' fans would love it, but it's just not happening. Especially with the news from ESPN today that they're flying in Jason Peters for a physical and talks of a contract extension. The Eagles would have to give up a first rounder for him. No way would they trade both of their first rounders for players that want big new contracts.

Frankly, I still am amazed that the Eagles are even pursuing Peters. He is insistent that he wants $12M a year. And the Eagles aren't really a team to give guys contracts like that. I just can't see them being willing to trade a first round pick for a guy, give him $25M-30M in guarantees and $12M a year.

 
Wouldn't everyone agree that what the Eagles are missing is a red zone target? It has been their biggest need for quite a while now and I do not think that Boldin complements our group of WR's very well. We have a burner in DJax, we have two slot guys one that can also take it deep in Curtis and one that always seems to make the 3rd down catch or that tough catch over the middle in Avant (who averaged slightly more YPC than Boldin). While Boldin has a very good skill set, he does not bring much to the table that the Eagles do not already have in their wr corp.
:unsure: Anquan Boldin has been one of the best red zone receivers in the NFL since he joined the league.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/d...att%2Brsh%2Brec

And here's a comparison of red zone prowess since 2005 [when Braylon entered the NFL]:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/d...att%2Brsh%2Brec

 
so.. the deal was:

Jeff Otah (RT) and a 2009 4th rounder for:

Jason Peters (LT)

Trevor Laws (DT)

Mike McGlynn (OG)

Quentin Demps (S)

Not bad at all...

Now we have a lot of middle offensive linemen:

Herremans

Sean Andrews

Nick Cole

Max Jean-Gilles

Mike McGlynn

I wonder if we try to trade Cole, Jean-Gilles, or McGlynn

 
YES! Now let's go get Knowshon!!
I would rather have Boldin. But I will settle for Knowshon. Getting Boldin ( now that we have J Peters) would send the 'Super Bowl or Bust' message to the league. This is what has been lacking from the organization for since T.O..
 
The Eagles have acquired Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters from the Bills for the 28th overall pick in next week's draft, FOXSports.com has learned.

Buffalo will also receive a second-day pick in this year's draft, as well as a late-round pick in the 2010 draft.

Peters held out before the start of the 2008 season, missing Buffalo's entire training camp and all four of the team's preseason games. Peters ended his holdout before the regular season began, with the Bills never giving in to his contract demans.

Peters, 27, has made the Pro Bowl the last two seasons, and was an All-Pro selection in 2007.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9466866...-Bowl-LT-Peters
 
Wouldn't everyone agree that what the Eagles are missing is a red zone target? It has been their biggest need for quite a while now and I do not think that Boldin complements our group of WR's very well. We have a burner in DJax, we have two slot guys one that can also take it deep in Curtis and one that always seems to make the 3rd down catch or that tough catch over the middle in Avant (who averaged slightly more YPC than Boldin). While Boldin has a very good skill set, he does not bring much to the table that the Eagles do not already have in their wr corp.
:popcorn: Anquan Boldin has been one of the best red zone receivers in the NFL since he joined the league.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/d...att%2Brsh%2Brec

And here's a comparison of red zone prowess since 2005 [when Braylon entered the NFL]:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/d...att%2Brsh%2Brec
C'mon, Jason. How good can he be? He's not even #1 on his own team! :stirspot:

If they moved the other #1 for Boldin, it could work out, but they need to get a RB in round 2.

 
so.. the deal was:Jeff Otah (RT) and a 2009 4th rounder for:Jason Peters (LT)Trevor Laws (DT)Mike McGlynn (OG)Quentin Demps (S)Not bad at all...
:popcorn:
Now we have a lot of middle offensive linemen:HerremansSean AndrewsNick ColeMax Jean-GillesMike McGlynnI wonder if we try to trade Cole, Jean-Gilles, or McGlynn
Don't forget Mike Gibson too.
 
I love adding Peters - this line will be SOLID for a long time.

I love even more they got him for the later 1st rounder (28) and nothing better than a 4th rounder.

This probably nails the coffin closed on Runyan as an Eagle...

 
Now with:

Leonard Weaver

Jason Peters

Shaun Andrews

I expect a nice upgrade to the running game

?Add in there Moreno or another top RB and could it be a new Eagles offense we see in 2009?

 
so.. the deal was:

Jeff Otah (RT) and a 2009 4th rounder and a 2010 pick

for:

Jason Peters (LT)

Trevor Laws (DT)

Mike McGlynn (OG)

Quentin Demps (S)

Not bad at all...

Now we have a lot of middle offensive linemen:

Herremans

Sean Andrews

Nick Cole

Max Jean-Gilles

Mike McGlynn

I wonder if we try to trade Cole, Jean-Gilles, or McGlynn
I'd honestly deal Jean-Gilles out of those guys. Justice is now a depth tackle at best, I wouldn't mid seeing Runyan back as a depth tackle for one year, if he's healthy, but they did a really nice job addressing the OT spots.

 

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