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Great stuff DH and thanks for sharing it here.Regarding the info about the 1st rd RB, I just don't get it if Moreno is available. He is the ideal need/BPA/impact pick if he's there. As happy as I am about Peters, I would be just as disappointed about passing on Moreno. It's so illogical that I wonder if it could be a a smokescreen to discourage another team from trading ahead of them to target Moreno?
Didn't really need to take awhile to realize it was good move imo. Getting Carolina's first round pick was rather insane, they went on to have a good year so it was sorta unlucky, but hey now we got Peters and a first. And the Kolb thing is still pending, and as the saying goes "if you wait for your replacement qb until when you need him, then it's to late." The greater point I'm trying to make is noone saw that move coming, so it was a rather exciting day. I imagine the draft for every other team's fans, especially the later teams, is a rather boring event. Still waiting for Anthony Spencer to TERROIZE #5. A guy who most thought the cowboys could get with their next pick.Chunky Soup said:
I know he has some character issues, but if they are going DE, I would like Michael Johnson.
I trust your info more than my own opinions ... howeverI see the 1st round being a trade down or skill position and here is why:
), though Im not sure the Eagles FO has the balls to take a TE this high.
Fascinating info, DH.Really wondering what DE they are targeting. Any chance Jackson or Ayers falls to 21?Britt would be a terrific choice IMHO.McCoy or Greene in the 2nd?
He's a starter on a great defense and Lito was sent packing. Joselio clearly is the nickel and not a threat to displace him.I'm guessing it's time for Sheldon to argue he warrants a raise with all the loot the Eagles are giving out this offseason.
No way this is a loss if the Eagles aren't already out of it, or ravaged by injuries. Dallas is horrible in Dec-Jan.
I almost posted that this morning, but after I re-read it, it looks like it's just them making a big stretch for a headline. Similar to another article today saying how Shawn Andrews might not be happy with his contract after the Peters signing...even though they have no evidence of this, just idle speculation.
Hard to understand, he's got 4 years left on his contract. But, I have a hard time understanding anyone demanding more under a contract they agreed to.
Once Lito decided he needed more, he was worthless to this team.
Unfortunately this means he's a no show in training camp most likely. Wonder if this puts Vontae Davis in as a probably selection at 21 now.
you also have to consider, they extended him two years into his rookie deal and gave him a $7.5 mil bonus as part of a new $30 mil extension. He is making an average of 5 mil under his current contract.
If their contracts were gauranteed I'd agree with you. But since at any time the team can decide that the player is not worth what he is making and cut him, then I have no problem with a player holding out because he feels he's worth more than what he makes. These guys don't always have a long window to earn big bucks.
Hanson = 5 year extension for 21 mil with 6.4 mil in guarantees.Hanson Details
They can both be right. Maybe the Eagles are assuming Moreno will be gone by 21.
I'm not sure what your going after.
uh he is very unpaid, if anyone, he deserves a contract
Not much really - just sort of sharing. Also thought original reply was saying hanson was averaging 5 per year... my bad on a misread.I do agree that hanson getting more is not reason for this. Word was Sheldon was not happy last year but took the high road - so much so he sort of critical of how Lito was handling his situation by going public... now this.
This screams smoke screen to me... just not sure why...
I don't get this either, but I totally believe it coming from DH. They have 5 DE's on the roster (Cole, Parker, Abimari, Clemons, Smith), not to mention Howard, who can play anywhere on the line, why would they draft a DE early when you only have 2 RB's on the roster in Westbrook and Booker, and Booker hardly saw the field last year. Westbrook is getting up there in age and is always an injury concern, it just doesn't make sense to me. They probably have the chance to get the #1 RB with the 21st pick, why do anything else? Moreno would be a no-brainer to me.Totally agree. Knowing how the FO works, if this info is out, there's no way they are drafting Moreno. They are even floating rumors that they're still interested in Boldin, even though we all know that ain't happening any more. They're playing a lt of mind games with the draft right around the corner.This screams smoke screen to me... just not sure why...
Exactly, but knowing the Eagles would not want this out and very little leaks out of Eagles FO - are they putting this out there because they do or don't want Moreno?So as a GM from another team, do I take this info and say ahhh the Eagles really don't want to draft Moreno, they just want me to think that or do I start down the Princess Bride route and think they think I will think they don't really want Moreno so they really must want him... then I pick the wrong cup and die because they really want Moreno but would equally be happy with players X Y and Z who are not Moreno and they know getting one team to jump or none at all to jump on Moreno will help increase their chances of getting someone they really like at 21 or provide the distraction they need while the try and move up to get the guy they really want...That was fun.Totally agree. Knowing how the FO works, if this info is out, there's no way they are drafting Moreno. They are even floating rumors that they're still interested in Boldin, even though we all know that ain't happening any more. They're playing a lt of mind games with the draft right around the corner.This screams smoke screen to me... just not sure why...
I think it has to do with Phi not wanting to draft RB/WRs in the 1st round. Maybe they have some feeling that they are more prone to busts or, in reality, they believe that position isnt worth of the money at that spot? All plausibleI don't get this either, but I totally believe it coming from DH. They have 5 DE's on the roster (Cole, Parker, Abimari, Clemons, Smith), not to mention Howard, who can play anywhere on the line, why would they draft a DE early when you only have 2 RB's on the roster in Westbrook and Booker, and Booker hardly saw the field last year. Westbrook is getting up there in age and is always an injury concern, it just doesn't make sense to me. They probably have the chance to get the #1 RB with the 21st pick, why do anything else? Moreno would be a no-brainer to me.
Shut up and play. EaglesCap
where is the peerman kid projecting to fall, thatd be a sexy pick in thd 2nd round if it was there, or even trade down in the 3rd?
The more time that you spend on this thread, the more you will realize that it is DH as a NO brainer. His sources have been extremely reliable, and no reason to start doubting them now.
I hope I'm wrong, I would love to see Moreno. My source seemed pretty certain they weren't taking a RB in the first though.
yeah, I'm not sure if he gets how this works, but you generally want to buy at a discount -- not sell at a discount.I just hope he can feed his family.
Only V. Davis is worth a first.
Davis is all ability, as with Smith, I think his ability level is high and he plays smart.
Boldin, and I don't have to think twice about it. I am not one of the people chanting that we need a WR, but if all it will cost is the 1.21, then get the deal done. You can pick up a backup RB and TE later in the draft.
Moreno. BPA at any position on defense in rd 2, and the TE in rd 3.
Much as I'd love to see this offense with a genuine weapon at WR again (who knows, Jackson may become this?), I think we have to go Moreno (or whoever we think is the best RB) in this situation.The team has shown they can win with a mediocre WR corps, and even have a productive passing offense without any of the targets standing out. Without Buck as a reliable backup any missed time by Westbrook (and there will be some, I'm sure) makes the offense totally one dimensional. If that happens I think they suffer. Badly.
ETA: Remember Darnell Autry?
