Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
You like Dunlap and Justice that much?Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
Andrews > Runyan. Why sign him if Shawn is healthy?You like Dunlap and Justice that much?Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
Slap Runyan back at RT and move Andrews back to guard until Herremans is healthy.Andrews > Runyan. Why sign him if Shawn is healthy?You like Dunlap and Justice that much?Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
http://twitter.com/BrianSeltzerAfter watching about 20 minutes of practice, Shawn Andrews heads inside, probably for treatment.
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Then what? Put Runyan on the bench after the bye? RT is far more important than LG no? I would feel better with Cole at LG and Andrews at T than Andrews at LG and Runyan at RT.Slap Runyan back at RT and move Andrews back to guard until Herremans is healthy.Andrews > Runyan. Why sign him if Shawn is healthy?You like Dunlap and Justice that much?Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.
hoping this is just Andy being cautious...Hopefully neither. Unless Andrews gets hurt again.http://twitter.com/BrianSeltzerAfter watching about 20 minutes of practice, Shawn Andrews heads inside, probably for treatment.
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While the Eagles have not commented on Andrews today, the team's injury report lists Andrews as missing practice with a back injury. Andrews has struggled with his back since it tightened up in the fitness run on the first day of training camp. That followed surgery last season, after he played in only the first two games.
He's afraid of needles.Can't he just get a painkiller injection every week or something?
heard if they sign him next week then his contract goes week by week as opposed to being commited to the whole year if they sign him now.
Correct. Given the latest with Andrews, I'd figure Runyan will be back next week.heard if they sign him next week then his contract goes week by week as opposed to being commited to the whole year if they sign him now.
This is a weird situation. I know backs can be tricky but he has not played since last year. There has to be some type of diagnosis that would be causing this long of a pain problem.
I would beHow could you not be happy with yesterday's performance? I say #5 is back this week. (fingers crossed) - or maybe they give Garcia a call? Kolb is terrible.
Broken bones heal in a month or two. Wearing a flack jacket is not going to change anything as far as throwing the ball. He may hurt and may run less, but that's all. Not saying he's a shoo-in to play this week or next, but dude has proven to have a high pain tolerance.Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
Hope you're right. B/c this could be a special team if he doesn't miss too much time.Broken bones heal in a month or two. Wearing a flack jacket is not going to change anything as far as throwing the ball. He may hurt and may run less, but that's all. Not saying he's a shoo-in to play this week or next, but dude has proven to have a high pain tolerance.Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
As much as it sucks, I'd rather him miss a couple of weeks and come back healthy, instead of playing hurt most of the season.Hope you're right. B/c this could be a special team if he doesn't miss too much time.Broken bones heal in a month or two. Wearing a flack jacket is not going to change anything as far as throwing the ball. He may hurt and may run less, but that's all. Not saying he's a shoo-in to play this week or next, but dude has proven to have a high pain tolerance.Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
The rib injury and pain from it is going to affect his throwing. We've discussed Mcabb's accuracy once or twiceBroken bones heal in a month or two. Wearing a flack jacket is not going to change anything as far as throwing the ball. He may hurt and may run less, but that's all. Not saying he's a shoo-in to play this week or next, but dude has proven to have a high pain tolerance.Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
so I think it will be an issue for him at least in the next few weeks. At least we got an early win in the books and the D and ST seem to be playing well (or maybe that's more on Delhomme). May be better to sit him next week and if that's the case sit him one more week against KC then he'll have the bye to rest as well and that would give him a full month. Not sure exactly how rib injuries heal though.Yeah but he has thrown four touchdown passes on a broken leg before. I'm not saying that this is the same or that he will be as good, but we have seen play through pain before. I think he can handle it. The good news is that yesterday proved this is a good team. If McNabb sits, I believe that Westbrook will be the focal point just like in '06. We will be down a play-maker, but I still have confidence in this team.Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
I agree completely. Let him sit through the bye. Next two weeks could be 1-1 without him. Let him come back healthy instead of playing all season with a nagging injury that will get re-aggravated every week.Pyscho Wife said:As much as it sucks, I'd rather him miss a couple of weeks and come back healthy, instead of playing hurt most of the season.Jason Wood said:Hope you're right. B/c this could be a special team if he doesn't miss too much time.zadok said:Broken bones heal in a month or two. Wearing a flack jacket is not going to change anything as far as throwing the ball. He may hurt and may run less, but that's all. Not saying he's a shoo-in to play this week or next, but dude has proven to have a high pain tolerance.Jason Wood said:Yesterday's performance overshadowed by McNabb's injury IMHO. I think people talking about his possibly playing this week are missing the point. Sure, he can play this week or next. Why? Because there's nothing they can do to make him feel any better. THAT is the problem. McNabb for the rest of the season is going to have to either play through pain or sit out. And seeing as how he's a veteran on a contending team, I'm sure he's going to try to play through the pain. But the idea that he'll be as effective is foolhardy. And more to the point, every time he takes a hit to the midsection it's going to feel like someone ran him through with a rapier.
Ridiculous statement.Let's see a 340 pound lineman come at you WITH HIS KNEES LEADING to your ribcage and see how you hold up. I don't care who the QBplayer was on that particular play...his ribs were gonna be broke.Pyscho Wife said:I would bezadok said:How could you not be happy with yesterday's performance? I say #5 is back this week. (fingers crossed) - or maybe they give Garcia a call? Kolb is terrible.if that happened.As a Eagles fan, this hurts and I really wish Vick could play next week. I have no faith in Kevin Kolb and think that picking him was a wasted pick. Without a doubt, IMO, they need to spend a 1 round draft pick this year on a QB.
Regarding McNabb and his history of injuries, I think he's a good case study to show that certain players ARE injury prone. I can't tell you why but certain players just get hurt more often. I know that many don't like the phrase injury prone and don't believe in it but it's so true.
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They did it, per CBSsports.com.Pyscho Wife said:I would bezadok said:How could you not be happy with yesterday's performance? I say #5 is back this week. (fingers crossed) - or maybe they give Garcia a call? Kolb is terrible.if that happened.
Against the Saints, we are going to have to score in the high 20s at least to have a chance. I have zero confidence that Kolb can lead 3-4 TD drives. Garcia, however, can do it. As much pride as they have to swallow, they have to act on the fact that their 1st pick in 2007 is not good enough to win games. Garcia is a proven winner and deserves to start Sunday and for as long as McNabb is out.or maybe they give Garcia a call? Kolb is terrible.
ff soapbox:It didn't look that bad.I stand by my statement that he's injury prone.Ridiculous statement.Let's see a 340 pound lineman come at you WITH HIS KNEES LEADING to your ribcage and see how you hold up. I don't care who the QBplayer was on that particular play...his ribs were gonna be broke.I would beHow could you not be happy with yesterday's performance? I say #5 is back this week. (fingers crossed) - or maybe they give Garcia a call? Kolb is terrible.if that happened.As a Eagles fan, this hurts and I really wish Vick could play next week. I have no faith in Kevin Kolb and think that picking him was a wasted pick. Without a doubt, IMO, they need to spend a 1 round draft pick this year on a QB.
Regarding McNabb and his history of injuries, I think he's a good case study to show that certain players ARE injury prone. I can't tell you why but certain players just get hurt more often. I know that many don't like the phrase injury prone and don't believe in it but it's so true.
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Still can't believe this hasn't gotten more attention...hits like that on prone players go generally un-noticed, and I don't understand why.
Ladies and gentlemen, Winston Justice!!!Garcia signed, Shawn Andrews to IR.![]()
When do they sign Runyan and cut a receiver?At this point, looks like they wouldn't cut a receiver unless they had an opportunity to sign a unicorn.Ladies and gentlemen, Winston Justice!!!Garcia signed, Shawn Andrews to IR.![]()
When do they sign Runyan and cut a receiver?
At this point, looks like they wouldn't cut a receiver unless they had an opportunity to sign a unicorn.Ladies and gentlemen, Winston Justice!!!Garcia signed, Shawn Andrews to IR.![]()
When do they sign Runyan and cut a receiver?
Has to be before the season and you cannot have practiced even once. They had to keep him on the active roster or IR him.I don't know the specifics of the PUP list (for example, does a player need to go there before the season starts?) but doesn't the IR seem a little harsh given what we know about Andrews? The reports have been that his back "flared up" but putting him on the IR sounds like he needs more surgery....
During one of the games last night, ESPN's ticker mentioned the Garcia signing and said the Eagles were actively trying to trade Baskett to accommodate.At this point, looks like they wouldn't cut a receiver unless they had an opportunity to sign a unicorn.Ladies and gentlemen, Winston Justice!!!Garcia signed, Shawn Andrews to IR.![]()
When do they sign Runyan and cut a receiver?
As I said in another thread, I think they are holding onto 7 receivers because they think sometime this season someone will need a receiver and they can trade either Reggie Brown or Hank Baskett for a draft pick. While no one is going to trade for Brandon Gibson, they know if they cut him that someone will pick him up right away.How do you think the Eagles would use a unicorn? on offense or defense?
Yeah, but then they IR'ed Andrews so looks like they didn't have any takers.During one of the games last night, ESPN's ticker mentioned the Garcia signing and said the Eagles were actively trying to trade Baskett to accommodate.At this point, looks like they wouldn't cut a receiver unless they had an opportunity to sign a unicorn.Ladies and gentlemen, Winston Justice!!!Garcia signed, Shawn Andrews to IR.![]()
When do they sign Runyan and cut a receiver?
As I said in another thread, I think they are holding onto 7 receivers because they think sometime this season someone will need a receiver and they can trade either Reggie Brown or Hank Baskett for a draft pick. While no one is going to trade for Brandon Gibson, they know if they cut him that someone will pick him up right away.How do you think the Eagles would use a unicorn? on offense or defense?
Kickoffs and occasionally in the wildcat.How do you think the Eagles would use a unicorn? on offense or defense?
with that horn - perfect for short yardage situation imhoKickoffs and occasionally in the wildcat.How do you think the Eagles would use a unicorn? on offense or defense?
Right, but assuming their report is accurate, it looks like Baskett is the guy they want to deal. Which I'm guessing they will still try to do and then get another tackle, whether it be Runyan or someone else we aren't aware of.I'd be shocked if they were done here, unless they want to wait until they cut Garcia to fill in o-line depth.Yeah, but then they IR'ed Andrews so looks like they didn't have any takers.During one of the games last night, ESPN's ticker mentioned the Garcia signing and said the Eagles were actively trying to trade Baskett to accommodate.
That would entail the FO admitting they whiffed on a high draft pick. Remember how long Matt McCoy stuck around?As you said, Baskett is more valuable. ST player and a very good run blocking WR. Brown is niether of those. They've got to bite the bullet and cut Brown.