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***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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No, but they might have done better with with Kolb at left tackle.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
FWIW - In his press conference today, Andy Reid admitted that they probably should have run the ball more. 
I think I've heard that about 35 times since he became the coach. I think he forgets about it after he gets up from the press table.
I think I've heard that about 35 times since he became the coach. I think he forgets about it after he gets up from the press table.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
"run the ball more" is AR code for "have my assistant run to Dunkin Donuts and get more donut holes (balls)"FWIW - In his press conference today, Andy Reid admitted that they probably should have run the ball more.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Sorry, I absolutely brain farted - I meant to just say sales, but the GF called asking about our tickets for the 2 Spectrum shows this week.
It's merchandise & related buzz. Ticket sales aren't the issue, obviously.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Or MLB.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
McNabb was getting killed when he dropped back to pass. They should have made some adjustments with some runs and quick. short passes to get their speedsters the ball in the open field and let them make a play. Why do you continue to drop back and get sacked?
Vick is #2 so they can use him in the wildcat.If McNabb gets hurt and will miss a game, Kolb becomes #1 and Vick remains at #2.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Everyone knows that fans always love the backup quarterback. I think some mix fantasy with NFL. They think Kolb is awesome because of the two 300+ yard games. They fail to remember that the Eagles got completely destroyed by the Saints in one of those games.They also have quickly forgotten about how well McNabb has been playing this year, since week 10 last year inlcluding the playoffs.
Manster
Footballguy
really?their O-line looked like the worst in the NFL vs. the raiders. i see them playing a close game with the skins in DC.
The Raiders actually blitzed--that is why the Eagles lost. Honestly, doing film study on a team that blitzed 13% of the time coming in and then blitzing a lot will make any gameplan useless. It didn't help that Kung Dunlap was going up against Richard Seymour. I'll take Seymour every time concerning that matchup.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
And yet another sucker falls in love with the backup.Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
Philly's offensive line is decimated right now. They have two reserves in at tackle. McNabb couldn't getvanything done under that pressure. Kolb may have cried.
Tong Po
Footballguy
But he wouldn't have thrown up in his helmetAnd yet another sucker falls in love with the backup.Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
I watched the game. I must have missed that part.But he wouldn't have thrown up in his helmetAnd yet another sucker falls in love with the backup.Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
babydemon90
Footballguy
the same washington team that swept them last year you mean?
Yes, really. Philly's O-line looked like that in an embarassing loss to the G-men not that long ago, and recovered just fine.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
And yet another sucker falls in love with the backup.Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
is right.All I was getting at is that reid gets more conservative when his Chunky savior isn't on the field and pointing out that Wood's sack comment is completely worthless.Definitely not trying to suggest that Kolb today is better than Mcnabb.
It's just that this Jason Wood guy has been consistently ripping on kolb for months now and it puzzles me. Especially after his very encouraging performances.
I think part of the problem is that the statistics don't pan out your assumption that they call a more conservative game/run more when McNabb is not playingIn 3 games McNabb started, they threw the ball 62% of the timeAnd yet another sucker falls in love with the backup.Doubt it. http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2007...er-look-at.html And the Eagles do win if kolb starts because reid would have actually run the ball against a team with a great secondary that can't stop the run.Kolb would've been sacked 12 times, seriously.
Any Eagles fan that thinks the Birds would've done better with Kolb in the game really, honestly, and truly needs to stop pretending they know anything about football. Sorry to sound so harsh, but the very idea of that even being in question baffles me.
Why do you hate kolb so much anyway? I see you bash him constantly even though he has looked remarkably good so far.
Definitely not trying to suggest that Kolb today is better than Mcnabb.
It's just that this Jason Wood guy has been consistently ripping on kolb for months now and it puzzles me. Especially after his very encouraging performances.
In 2 games Kolb started, they threw the ball 67% of the time - and one of those games was vs KC who is 31st in the league against the run
In fact, prior to the Oakland abberation - they had been 53% pass vs 47% run when McNabb started this year
Jason Wood
Zoo York
If we bring out the same offensive line on MNF, I would agree it will be closer than many think. But Peters and Herremans are supposedly going to be in the lineup, which would equate to lights years of improvement. An Eagles team with Peters and Herremans on the line will be hard for the banged up and disenfranchised Skins to overcome.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Per FBG players in the news...
Peters and Herremans both practiced fully.
Looks like they will be able to perform Monday night. After watching King Dunlap vs. OAK, we dodged a bullet with Peters. Glad he is fine. And finally, Herremans will help anchor the interior line.
The O-Line and playcalling were horrible last week. I'd like to think this means at least one will improve.
Peters and Herremans both practiced fully.
Looks like they will be able to perform Monday night. After watching King Dunlap vs. OAK, we dodged a bullet with Peters. Glad he is fine. And finally, Herremans will help anchor the interior line.
The O-Line and playcalling were horrible last week. I'd like to think this means at least one will improve.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Bad News:
So much for thinking the loss to the Raiders might not have been too bad since they may have been turning things around... (Jets 38 - Raiders 0)
Good News:
With the Giants loss at home to the Cardinals; the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all currently have 2 losses.
If the Eagles can bounce back and win the next 3 games (@WAS, NYG, DAL) we'll be alone atop the NFC East.
So much for thinking the loss to the Raiders might not have been too bad since they may have been turning things around... (Jets 38 - Raiders 0)
Good News:
With the Giants loss at home to the Cardinals; the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all currently have 2 losses.
If the Eagles can bounce back and win the next 3 games (@WAS, NYG, DAL) we'll be alone atop the NFC East.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Thank god for DJax and our defensive turn overs.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The offense still looked out of sync. Aside from the two big plays to DJax, it wasn't very good at moving the ball at all. That's not going to get it done against good teams.
zadok
Footballguy
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Also aggravating was when he didn't see a wide open Maclin running along the sideline toward the end zone, and instead threw it into the ground over the middle.
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
These are my thoughts as well. Any chance Reid makes the McNabb-Kolb switch if this continues through the next 1-2 games? I'm a McNabb fan as a Chicago resident and always have been, but Kolb just flat-out made the Eagles look like a better team. The ankle throws and overall lack of accuracy is troubling.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
No. There is a better chance of Reid buying crack for his sons than of him permanently benching McNabb for a reason other than injury.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Everbody loves the back up QB.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
One of the most frustrating things about Reid and McNabb is also one of the things that makes them so similar and almost inseperable in my mind when evaluating this team... looking at the team on a year to year basis and over the last 10 years they have been very successful overall and that success is hard to question BUT on the other hand they both seem to have boneheaded breakdowns at the most inopportune times.
Reid and McNabb are two of the main reasons for the run of success the Eagles have had and the number of times they're reached the NFC Championship but you could probably point to them equally as much as a couple of the reasons why the Eagles haven't been able to make that next step and win the Superbowl.
Do you love or hate Reid and McNabb? It probably comes down to whether you're happy with having a successful team year in and year out that's almost always in the hunt or if you would give anything just for a Superbowl win.
Reid and McNabb are two of the main reasons for the run of success the Eagles have had and the number of times they're reached the NFC Championship but you could probably point to them equally as much as a couple of the reasons why the Eagles haven't been able to make that next step and win the Superbowl.
Do you love or hate Reid and McNabb? It probably comes down to whether you're happy with having a successful team year in and year out that's almost always in the hunt or if you would give anything just for a Superbowl win.
zadok
Footballguy
Or the "realism" option: having the best coach and QB in team history (despite their warts) gives you the best chance to win the super bowl...ETA: despite their warts
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The best chance compared to former Eagles coaches and qbs? Are you implying that there aren't any coaches or qbs that may be available (either via free agency or through trade) that would give the Eagles a better chance of winning it all? Look.....I think McNabb and Reid are phenomenal but at what point do you just say that it's time for a change? They've had so many chances to win it all but have fallen short every single time. Change isn't always bad........Tomlin came in to a good system in Pittsburgh and got a championship in his 2nd year. Kolb is in a good system with a lot of talent around him and has shown at least a sliver of being a decent NFL qb (albeit a very small sample size). The way Reid coached against Oakland just exemplifies his personality. He is so stubborn that he will try to force his game plan rather than adjust to a strategy that actually gives the team the best chance to win.
And it sure-as-hell won't be discussed after an inter-divisional road win.I love how people act as if winning the Super Bowl is teh only measure of success. Yes, it's the ultimate prize, but the season was not considered a failure for 31 teams every year. In a simplistic point-of-view, I suppose it is, but in actuality, there are many, many levels of success and failure.Maybe Detroit was considered to be less of a failure than Super Bowl runners-up Arizona, since they "won" the first overall pick?All I know is that without Reid and/or McNabb, the Eagles could easily fall to a 9-7 or 8-8 non-playoff team. Sure, there's a chance that they could still succeed ort even exceed current success, but why would you ess with a team who is right-there year after year? Do you know how hard it is in the NFL to maintain excellence? There are only a very select few teams (NE, Indy, Pittsburgh) who manage to do it. They are in-the-hunt every single year. Philly has made 5 of the last 8 NFC CHampionship games. Yes, they've lost 4 times, but maybe they weren't the better team. THat happens.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Can I assume you have not watched the games this season? There is no way anyone can say that the Eagles offense looked better under McNabb than it did Kolb. Your eyes dont lie and what they are showing you is rather simple. Kolb is more accurate than McNabb and he gets rid of the ball quicker. Its that simple.Everbody loves the back up QB.
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zadok
Footballguy
Clearly McNabb needs to be more accurate, I yell at my TV too, but look at the big picture. He's about 59% completions right now for his career, but here are some of the guys that is better than:
Dan Fouts (tied)
Warren Moon
Bart Starr
Len Dawson
Fran Tarkenton
Roger Staubach
John Elway
Randall Cunningham
Bob Griese
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Marino is only slightly ahead at 59.4% and Jim Kelly also very close at 60.1%.
Take a breath.
Dan Fouts (tied)
Warren Moon
Bart Starr
Len Dawson
Fran Tarkenton
Roger Staubach
John Elway
Randall Cunningham
Bob Griese
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Marino is only slightly ahead at 59.4% and Jim Kelly also very close at 60.1%.
Take a breath.
