JaxBill
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm worried because I don't know how many scouts go with him.And I'm even more worried if DH's connection goes with him.
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***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
Do we really want to extend McNabb? My answer is no, so I think he's gone.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Reid has final say on anything Eagles, so it won't be that big of a loss.
IMO
editor47
Footballguy
kolb would have been even worse than mcnabb tonight. at least mcnabb can still escape the rush with his legs. kolb's mobility is limited and with the revolving door at LT he won't last a season.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
The reason McNabb is forced to make escape so many pass rushes is because he almost never makes the quick pass. Name the last time you saw him hit someone on a quick slant out of the gates or someone in stride? The guy just cant pull the trigger on those passes for some reason. If you ever get to watch an Eagles game from the endzone point of view you will see that its not that the WR's dont get the initial jump.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Would a 100% 31 year old Brian Westbrook be effective?
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Lehigh98
Footballguy
How's your wife?Just thought i'd stop by and say
Lehigh98
Footballguy
I'd be surprised to see him back at all next year unless he'll renegotiate his contact.Too bad, will be sorry to see him go, it was a great run for our Villanova boy.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I think he comes back next year -- his money for 2010 is guaranteed -- unless someone makes us an offer we can't refuse. But then management probably lets him go after the season, and Kolb is the starter in 2011.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
caglassc
President James Madison - Football Guru
That is tbe best insult you can come up with? Interesting stat - the last two championships that Cowboys won - they destroyed the Eagles in Dallas.
TCFF
Footballguy
This is going to be an interesting offseason with so many issues up in the air and more needs than usual. There will be loads of things on the Eagles plate:
Offense
1. What to do with McNabb and Kolb both having their contracts up in 2010? My guess is to trade Mcnabb, even though he gives us our best chance to win next year.
2. What about Vick? I think he gets cut. I can't imagine anyone giving us something for him since they know we'll cut him.
3. What about Westbrook? He is clearly not the back that he was and I think he will have to take a secondary role to McCoy if he is on the team.
4. What about guys like Avant and Weaver who will be restricted free agents? I think these two, while not the biggest names out there, are very important to Philly's offensive success.
5. What about our O-Line? This was the biggest ofensive problem this year. Jackson will be lucky to be ready to play week 1, while I wish this wasn't the case- Shaun Andrews will likely never play for the Eagle again, Stacy Andrews must really suck if he couldn't crack the lineup this year, and even our tackle play was hit and miss. I will be very impressed if Andy can fix this mess, and this was supposed to be a strength this season.
6. What about Desean and Drew Rosenhaus? Hopefully this doesn't lead to a big holdout.
7. Wishlist: Although WR is not a priority, I think we can do better than Brown and Curtis and would love for them to have competition, preferably from some bigger, taller wideouts.
Defense
1. We need a lot on this side of the ball. A new safety has to be the top priority. Macho, Demps, and Jones were awful in that spot this year.
2. We need to go back to basics on tackling.
3. We need a DE opposite Cole that can bring some pressure.
4. We need Stewart Bradley back healthy and at least some competition at the other LB spots.
5. We need to draft a cornerback prospect to be groomed for a starting role and to upgrade our nickel package immediately.
6. We probably should rework Sheldon Browns contract, because losing him would not help our Defense.
7. Wishlist: This isn't going to happen, but I would like for them to replace Sean McDermott with someone from outside the organization. Replacing Jim Johnson in an injury plagued year without the leadership of Brian Dawkins is a tall order, but our defense took a big step back this year and most of the personnel was the same. Jim Johnson was a mastermind, but in his absence we appear to run a defense based more on gimmicks than on solid play. I would love to see a Defensive Coordinator with a new, hard nosed vision that would put together a tougher defense- even if that means we have a few less picks.
I may have left some things off this list, but it is going to be an interesting offseason. Now if someone could please just beat the cowboys...
Offense
1. What to do with McNabb and Kolb both having their contracts up in 2010? My guess is to trade Mcnabb, even though he gives us our best chance to win next year.
2. What about Vick? I think he gets cut. I can't imagine anyone giving us something for him since they know we'll cut him.
3. What about Westbrook? He is clearly not the back that he was and I think he will have to take a secondary role to McCoy if he is on the team.
4. What about guys like Avant and Weaver who will be restricted free agents? I think these two, while not the biggest names out there, are very important to Philly's offensive success.
5. What about our O-Line? This was the biggest ofensive problem this year. Jackson will be lucky to be ready to play week 1, while I wish this wasn't the case- Shaun Andrews will likely never play for the Eagle again, Stacy Andrews must really suck if he couldn't crack the lineup this year, and even our tackle play was hit and miss. I will be very impressed if Andy can fix this mess, and this was supposed to be a strength this season.
6. What about Desean and Drew Rosenhaus? Hopefully this doesn't lead to a big holdout.
7. Wishlist: Although WR is not a priority, I think we can do better than Brown and Curtis and would love for them to have competition, preferably from some bigger, taller wideouts.
Defense
1. We need a lot on this side of the ball. A new safety has to be the top priority. Macho, Demps, and Jones were awful in that spot this year.
2. We need to go back to basics on tackling.
3. We need a DE opposite Cole that can bring some pressure.
4. We need Stewart Bradley back healthy and at least some competition at the other LB spots.
5. We need to draft a cornerback prospect to be groomed for a starting role and to upgrade our nickel package immediately.
6. We probably should rework Sheldon Browns contract, because losing him would not help our Defense.
7. Wishlist: This isn't going to happen, but I would like for them to replace Sean McDermott with someone from outside the organization. Replacing Jim Johnson in an injury plagued year without the leadership of Brian Dawkins is a tall order, but our defense took a big step back this year and most of the personnel was the same. Jim Johnson was a mastermind, but in his absence we appear to run a defense based more on gimmicks than on solid play. I would love to see a Defensive Coordinator with a new, hard nosed vision that would put together a tougher defense- even if that means we have a few less picks.
I may have left some things off this list, but it is going to be an interesting offseason. Now if someone could please just beat the cowboys...
CaptainHook
Footballguy
Yep. Garcia and Feely had way lower sack rates than Mcnabb despite playing behind the same O-line.
delusional
Footballguy
Needs:
Center: Jackson wont be back healthy at the start of next season. Need to hit FA big here
Guard: Sorry, can not count on either Andrews brother right now. Cole & MJG are marginal depth at best
DE: All those DEs and the only decent players are Cole and dare i say Babin?
LB: Move gocong to DE, run bradley and whiterspoon...draft a LB high
CB: move sheldon to safety, draft/fa to replace him, keep hanson at nickel
S: need one to play opposite sheldon
Center: Jackson wont be back healthy at the start of next season. Need to hit FA big here
Guard: Sorry, can not count on either Andrews brother right now. Cole & MJG are marginal depth at best
DE: All those DEs and the only decent players are Cole and dare i say Babin?
LB: Move gocong to DE, run bradley and whiterspoon...draft a LB high
CB: move sheldon to safety, draft/fa to replace him, keep hanson at nickel
S: need one to play opposite sheldon
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They both need to be back, and I think both will be.
caglassc
President James Madison - Football Guru
Worse news, you have never won a Super Bowl.....sorry.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
I would have no problem with them drafting Spiller if he is there. A weaver spiller combo could be nice. Not high on McCoy. They can get a safety in the second.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
Terrible comment. mccoy already looks decent and he's only 21. The days of westbrook are over this is going to be an exciting WR-centric offense once Kolb takes over. A vanilla back like Mccoy who looks like he could have some potential is plenty fine.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
GM Tom Heckert Jr. is now GM of the Browns. What can you tell me about him? Did he make any final decisions, or was it all Reid? What exactly did he do?
I vagely remember his dad from back in the 80's with Clevelnad.
I vagely remember his dad from back in the 80's with Clevelnad.
dhockster
Footballguy
It's so hard to even evaluate RB's on the Eagles because of the way Reid runs the pass first offense. It has to be terribly hard for the RB's and the O line to get into any sort of rhythm running the ball. Until Andy goes to a more balanced attack, it will be hard to judge McCoy.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Reid had final say on all personnel matters, and still does. Heckert oversaw the scouting staff and, I believe, all the other personnel folk. My concern is not losing Heckert, but whether he takes any scouts with him.The Man With No Name said:
zadok
Footballguy
And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread. 
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
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Chunky Soup
Footballguy
And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
Although I'm hoping they have something with Kolb and don't need to hit the draft early for another QB project.
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Agreed, I've argured on here in favor of McNabb, but from a strictly business standpoint..gotta get something for him and move on. Let kolb develop with the young guys for the next 5-6 years. Regarding the McGahee thing, I heard someone else mention him. I don't get that at all? In the extremely limited amount of looks mcCoy has gotten this season I thought he looked more than adequate. Why we would go for a damn near over the hill RB like McGahee is beyond me.One last bit of humor-Shawn Andrews has already said he is ready to go next season. Feeling good and ready to work.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
This is how I feel as well. Until this year, I had been a McNabb supporter. But I think the team needs to see what they have in Kolb as his contract is also up after 2010. They spent their first '07 pick on him (#36). They have many holes to fill before they are a true contender so I don't think bringing in a young QB kills all hope for a SB in '10. I don't think they are close to it anyway. Its time to groom the young offense, build the defense and look to '11 and beyond.Barring an extension, this is the last chance to trade McNabb. Maybe they can get some defensive help in exchange.Agreed, I've argured on here in favor of McNabb, but from a strictly business standpoint..gotta get something for him and move on. Let kolb develop with the young guys for the next 5-6 years. Regarding the McGahee thing, I heard someone else mention him. I don't get that at all? In the extremely limited amount of looks mcCoy has gotten this season I thought he looked more than adequate. Why we would go for a damn near over the hill RB like McGahee is beyond me.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
One last bit of humor-Shawn Andrews has already said he is ready to go next season. Feeling good and ready to work.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I heard Mike Quick during the game and he had that same criticism of McNabb. Yes he was under pressure, but was also holding the ball too long, too often.
I think Michael Irvin put it best (first time i've agreed with Irvin), it's not a problem with McNabb per se, it's more that we've had 10 years of it and its not working like it should. #3 in wins during that period with no SB to show for it. I love McNabb and wish him well but yes, it would be nice to see something different. Is it that we've been spoiled? Another few years of the Hoyings and Detmers would suck but at least we'd get some value out of McNabb before his contract is up.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin. I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
vinwinephans
Footballguy
Always willing to give McNabb the benefit of the doubt, but I have come to this conclusion regarding him.
McNabb is a good QB, definately above average. He is not a great QB. His 'HOF' numbers come from being in a pass-centric, pass-happy offense and McNabb being better than average as a QB. His 'HOF' numbers are not a result of him being a great QB.
McNabb is a QB that you can win a SuperBowl with, but McNabb will not WIN YOU THE SUPERBOWL. And this is where is breaks down from a philosophical standpoint with how Reid operates this team.
He does not run, he does not think WR's need to be 'studs'. He did not draft Ricky Williams cause he builds his offense around having the RIGHT QB. McNabb is not a QB that will put the offense on his shoulders and make something happen. He is not that guy. Reid needs a QB who can be that guy. All of the great WC Offenses had a QB who was that guy - the offense did not make them these guys, they were those guys and therefore they made the offense work.
Either Andy needs to let McNabb walk cause he is not the 'great' QB he needs and wants or put studs at other positions (RB, WR, O LINE, etc).
Perhaps some of these guys will be those, but I don't think they are game changers by themselves.
Also, I'm not saying Kolb is a great QB, but if Reid is going to insist on QB being the cornerstone of the offense, he needs to start looking elsewhere for something better than McNabb. Put some other QB's on this team, in this pass happy offense, and I wonder how much better their numbers would - better than they are now and better than McNabb's.
McNabb lacks the fighter instinct - the quick fire instinct and the ability to take a risk and use the element of surprise to his advantage. I've seen enough - either start putting elite players around this guy or move on. Time for a new project, this one has run it's course of usefulness for me.
McNabb is a good QB, definately above average. He is not a great QB. His 'HOF' numbers come from being in a pass-centric, pass-happy offense and McNabb being better than average as a QB. His 'HOF' numbers are not a result of him being a great QB.
McNabb is a QB that you can win a SuperBowl with, but McNabb will not WIN YOU THE SUPERBOWL. And this is where is breaks down from a philosophical standpoint with how Reid operates this team.
He does not run, he does not think WR's need to be 'studs'. He did not draft Ricky Williams cause he builds his offense around having the RIGHT QB. McNabb is not a QB that will put the offense on his shoulders and make something happen. He is not that guy. Reid needs a QB who can be that guy. All of the great WC Offenses had a QB who was that guy - the offense did not make them these guys, they were those guys and therefore they made the offense work.
Either Andy needs to let McNabb walk cause he is not the 'great' QB he needs and wants or put studs at other positions (RB, WR, O LINE, etc).
Perhaps some of these guys will be those, but I don't think they are game changers by themselves.
Also, I'm not saying Kolb is a great QB, but if Reid is going to insist on QB being the cornerstone of the offense, he needs to start looking elsewhere for something better than McNabb. Put some other QB's on this team, in this pass happy offense, and I wonder how much better their numbers would - better than they are now and better than McNabb's.
McNabb lacks the fighter instinct - the quick fire instinct and the ability to take a risk and use the element of surprise to his advantage. I've seen enough - either start putting elite players around this guy or move on. Time for a new project, this one has run it's course of usefulness for me.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
It's not even possible to put elite guys around Mcnabb because he becomes a baby when he's not getting all the attention.
See: The TO years. "Black On Black Crime"
Mcnabb reminds me a lot of Iverson. An average player who can make the occasional spectacular that happened to be surrounded by underrated teammates. Both were lucky enough to be there as the only stand-out guys during periods of resurgence even though when it comes to actually contributing to wins they are only mediocre.
See: The TO years. "Black On Black Crime"
Mcnabb reminds me a lot of Iverson. An average player who can make the occasional spectacular that happened to be surrounded by underrated teammates. Both were lucky enough to be there as the only stand-out guys during periods of resurgence even though when it comes to actually contributing to wins they are only mediocre.
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CaptainHook
Footballguy
Reid has certainly not officially declared mcnabb back next year. I'll be very surprised if next year isn't the start of the kolb era.G-King said:I think as Eagle fans that you guys are in for a suprise with Kolb. He's a great guy and a student of the game, who would have done well with the young receivers in Philly. However Reid has declared McNabb back next year and Kevin is unofficially gone barring a last minute stay. Alot of us Texas boys are going to love rooting for him out of an Eagles uniform and in the AFC.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.Although I'm hoping they have something with Kolb and don't need to hit the draft early for another QB project.
Reid has certainly not officially declared mcnabb back next year. I'll be very surprised if next year isn't the start of the kolb era.G-King said:I think as Eagle fans that you guys are in for a suprise with Kolb. He's a great guy and a student of the game, who would have done well with the young receivers in Philly. However Reid has declared McNabb back next year and Kevin is unofficially gone barring a last minute stay. Alot of us Texas boys are going to love rooting for him out of an Eagles uniform and in the AFC.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1277160...es-qb-next-year
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Hah! Please. Any attempt to glean information from a Reid Presser is a fruitless endevour. No way Lurie and Banner extend McNabb to live out his career here (my opinion). And theres no way McNabb will play this coming season with out an extension/new contract (common sense). If they don't extend him, he and his agent will ask for a trade. I listened to it, Reid said that but ducked about 5 other questions that were more direct and related to his current contract and what needed to be done to lock him up. These guys are businessmen first. Vick will be gone, McNabb will be traded and Kold will be our new QB for better or worse week one.
dhockster
Footballguy
If the Eagles are looking to trade McNabb sometime this offseason, do you think it would be good for them to announce it right after the season ended? If they did, it would definitely lower his trade value because then the Eagles would have to move him, and you never get what somebodies worth when you are in a "have to" situation.
I wouldn't glean anything from Reid saying McNabb is the QB for the Eagles next year. Whether he stays or not, that is the only reasonable thing the Eagles can say at this point.
I wouldn't glean anything from Reid saying McNabb is the QB for the Eagles next year. Whether he stays or not, that is the only reasonable thing the Eagles can say at this point.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Agreed. Don't listen to what Reid says, watch what he does. He had to say what he did or they wouldn't have been able to trade him.Just heard Ike Reese (former Eagles LB) on WIP, "I think Donovan's lost the locker room. I don't think the players have confidence in him".
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
It's mostly because he can't make that pass. He has zero touch on the short, slant throw. He'll throw it 100mph behind or at the receivers feet most of the time. In ten years of watching McNabb play, I've seen a WR catch a slant in stride maybe a handful of times, and that's what the WCO is, if you can't make that throw, then the offense won't work.
crewmember
Footballguy
I think MCcoy looks good as runner but still has to learn how to block. If Westbrook is gone though they will definatley get someone, but it doesn't mean they don't like McCoy.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Heckert is a good scout, is reputed to be likable and organized, and is very much ego neutral. He'll have precious little control in Cleveland, too, you know Holmgren is going to have a heavy hand in shaping this team.
delusional
Footballguy
Eagles been trying to push Heckert out for the past few years. If he was that good, that wouldnt happen.
At this point, what teams needs a McNabb right now? None. but what team could use a non rookie QB that is young? A few.
Kolb > McNabb in terms of trade value.
Reid should not have gotten an extension. Say what you want but he should not be the head coach but he is. So now he has 3 years to win it. Wouldn't it make sense to keep McNabb for the rest of reids tenure then start fresh with a new HC/OC/QB?
Who is to say Kolb will want to resign here? There been a few points when he was frustrated with not being given the chance to start.
Face it, it was a horrible decision to draft Kolb where they did. Cant change that fact at all.
They should let Marty Mor go this offseason. Bring in a legit OC with future potential of taking over as the HC in 3 years ( or if Reid leaves before then )
You trade Kolb this offseason for draft picks. Try to get a package of picks one which includes next years draft. Draft your future QB next offseason.
Thus you have your future HC with a future QB he wants to run in his offense. While at the same time that OC they get should have a more balanced system in terms of gameplan ( like...running the ball ). You have the tools now on the offense IF everyone comes back healthy. Get a C in FA. Use the draft to get a DE opposite Cole, a LB, a CB ( move sheldon to safety ).
Then run with it. The players now are young enough where in 3 years you should still have a great core of players for a legit playoff push with with your future HC taking over and his QB ready to rock.
At this point, what teams needs a McNabb right now? None. but what team could use a non rookie QB that is young? A few.
Kolb > McNabb in terms of trade value.
Reid should not have gotten an extension. Say what you want but he should not be the head coach but he is. So now he has 3 years to win it. Wouldn't it make sense to keep McNabb for the rest of reids tenure then start fresh with a new HC/OC/QB?
Who is to say Kolb will want to resign here? There been a few points when he was frustrated with not being given the chance to start.
Face it, it was a horrible decision to draft Kolb where they did. Cant change that fact at all.
They should let Marty Mor go this offseason. Bring in a legit OC with future potential of taking over as the HC in 3 years ( or if Reid leaves before then )
You trade Kolb this offseason for draft picks. Try to get a package of picks one which includes next years draft. Draft your future QB next offseason.
Thus you have your future HC with a future QB he wants to run in his offense. While at the same time that OC they get should have a more balanced system in terms of gameplan ( like...running the ball ). You have the tools now on the offense IF everyone comes back healthy. Get a C in FA. Use the draft to get a DE opposite Cole, a LB, a CB ( move sheldon to safety ).
Then run with it. The players now are young enough where in 3 years you should still have a great core of players for a legit playoff push with with your future HC taking over and his QB ready to rock.
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editor47
Footballguy
BECAUSE LESEAN MCCOY IS NOT A BELL COW RB. He's good. But he can't do it alone. I said, if Westbrook isn't coming back, bring in Mcgahee. That's all I said. Mcgahee scored 14 TDs this year. I didn't say we were bringing him in as the starter. But you need 2 RBs in this day and age.Agreed, I've argured on here in favor of McNabb, but from a strictly business standpoint..gotta get something for him and move on. Let kolb develop with the young guys for the next 5-6 years. Regarding the McGahee thing, I heard someone else mention him. I don't get that at all? In the extremely limited amount of looks mcCoy has gotten this season I thought he looked more than adequate. Why we would go for a damn near over the hill RB like McGahee is beyond me.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
One last bit of humor-Shawn Andrews has already said he is ready to go next season. Feeling good and ready to work.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Have you even watched the Eagles offense over last decade? At what point did you see them ever need a bell cow RB? McCoy is absolutely perfect for AR's offense and it wouldnt matter if you brought in Barry Sanders and Walter Payton, Reid would still throw the ball 60% of the time.BECAUSE LESEAN MCCOY IS NOT A BELL COW RB.Agreed, I've argured on here in favor of McNabb, but from a strictly business standpoint..gotta get something for him and move on. Let kolb develop with the young guys for the next 5-6 years. Regarding the McGahee thing, I heard someone else mention him. I don't get that at all? In the extremely limited amount of looks mcCoy has gotten this season I thought he looked more than adequate. Why we would go for a damn near over the hill RB like McGahee is beyond me.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
One last bit of humor-Shawn Andrews has already said he is ready to go next season. Feeling good and ready to work.
He's good. But he can't do it alone. I said, if Westbrook isn't coming back, bring in Mcgahee. That's all I said. Mcgahee scored 14 TDs this year. I didn't say we were bringing him in as the starter. But you need 2 RBs in this day and age.
editor47
Footballguy
you really think mccoy is anywhere close to westbrook? he's not even close. again, you need 2 RBs, not 1. weaver is a FB. if you don't think mcgahee is a good fit, that's fine. it was merely a thought as i believe he's a FA at the end of the year and he's only 28.Have you even watched the Eagles offense over last decade? At what point did you see them ever need a bell cow RB? McCoy is absolutely perfect for AR's offense and it wouldnt matter if you brought in Barry Sanders and Walter Payton, Reid would still throw the ball 60% of the time.BECAUSE LESEAN MCCOY IS NOT A BELL COW RB.Agreed, I've argured on here in favor of McNabb, but from a strictly business standpoint..gotta get something for him and move on. Let kolb develop with the young guys for the next 5-6 years. Regarding the McGahee thing, I heard someone else mention him. I don't get that at all? In the extremely limited amount of looks mcCoy has gotten this season I thought he looked more than adequate. Why we would go for a damn near over the hill RB like McGahee is beyond me.And so ends the 2009 Eagles thread.
I've always been a McNabb fan, mostly because he won lots of playoff games. After Saturday, I think they should move on. Let the Kolb/Vick/Tebow/Pike/etc era begin.
I do think they should/will re-sign Weaver and Avant. IIRC, Ellis Hobbs is also an UFA that needs to be re-signed.
One last bit of humor-Shawn Andrews has already said he is ready to go next season. Feeling good and ready to work.
He's good. But he can't do it alone. I said, if Westbrook isn't coming back, bring in Mcgahee. That's all I said. Mcgahee scored 14 TDs this year. I didn't say we were bringing him in as the starter. But you need 2 RBs in this day and age.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Not even close?McCoys 1st Year: 637 Yards Rushing with a 4.1 Average - 308 Yards Receiving with a 7.7 Average - 4 TD'sWestbrooks 1st Year: 193 Yards Rushing with a 4.2 Average - 86 Yards Receiving with a 9.1 Average - 0 TD'sLooks like McCoy is right on pace to me.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
That doesn't prove anything.Correll Buckhalters 1st Year: 586 yards rushing with a 4.5 average - 130 yards recieving with a 10.0 average 2 TD'sCorrell was never as good as Westbrook. The first year numbers are more about opportunity then ability. But I do think McCoy looks good back there when he runs it.
