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*** Official 2010 New York Giants Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Giants at Eagles – Sunday, November 21

By Eric from BigBlueInteractive.com

Approach to the Game: I hope we all realize just how schizophrenic we’ve become as sports fans. Just seven days ago, many Giants’ fans and many in the media were labeling the Giants as the best team in the NFC. Now, many don’t give New York a chance on Sunday night in Philadelphia. Seven days. As is usually the case, the truth lies somewhere in between.

When healthy, the Giants are as well-rounded and perhaps talented as any team in the NFL. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, a solid offensive line, a good running game, and one of the better receiving corps in the NFL. They can pass and run the football. Defensively, the Giants can stop the run and rush the passer. They have a very athletic secondary. On specials, the Giants have a solid place kicker, are improving in coverage, and finally found a decent returner.

What we don’t know is just how good the team is because the caliber of the competition the team has played. (By the way, this is true of many “good” teams in the NFL). The Panthers, Bears, Texans, Lions, Cowboys, and Seahawks are certainly not considered the “top” teams in the NFL. Perhaps two teams remaining on the Giants’ schedule fall into that category: the Eagles and Packers.

But the Giants will be nowhere near full-strength on Sunday night. Eagle fans will charge, “Hey, we have our injuries too! No excuses!” They are partially correct. The Giants would be OK if there injuries were spread out more, but they are unbelievably concentrated at two positions: the offensive line and wide receiver. Both the starting and back-up centers are out (O’Hara and Koets). The starting left tackle is out (Diehl). His original back-up is coming off a broken foot and will take some time to round back into form (Beatty). The third option at tackle has a chronic back issue that flared up at practice this week (Andrews). The left guard is now playing center (Seubert). And his replacement is coming off a torn pectoral muscle injury and missed all of camp, the preseason, and most of the regular season (Boothe).

At wide receiver, the Giants lost Domenik Hixon at mini-camp. Victor Cruz is on Injured Reserve with a hamstring injury. Ramses Barden is on Injured Reserve with a fractured ankle and ligament damage. And most importantly, Steve Smith is out with a partially torn pectoral muscle. Derek Hagan, who the Giants signed off of the street this week, may be the third receiver on the team now.

What Eagles’ fans are right about is this: “No excuses.” There is no room for self-pity in the NFL. The scoreboard doesn’t care about it. The Giants still have Eli Manning. They still have Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Kevin Boss. They still have a mostly-healthy defense. There is enough talent to get this thing done.

I may not know much, but this I do know: too much will be made out of this game regardless of who wins. This is not a playoff game. The team that plays best on Sunday night may not be the team that is playing best in January. In 2007, the Cowboys convincingly swept the Giants in the regular season. But who remembers that? Instead people remember a little divisional game in Irving, Texas in January 2008 that ended with R.W. McQuarters picking off Tony Romo the end zone.

The more important picture – the big picture – is this: to make the playoffs, the Giants will probably have to go 4-3 in their last seven games. With two games against the Eagles and one game against the Packers, the margin for error is slim. The Giants simply cannot afford to slip up against the Redskins (twice), Jaguars, and Vikings. If they do, they are going to have to beat the Eagles at least once and/or the Packers in Green Bay. But you know what? If the Giants can’t go 4-4 in their last eight games (they have already lost to Dallas), then they really don’t deserve to make the playoffs, do they?

As I was commuting to work this morning on the DC Metro, all of these thoughts were bouncing around my head. As I exited the subway station, I spotted a man in front of me wearing a jacket like this:http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/GiantsJacket.jpg

As I passed the man, I said, “Now that’s a jacket!” He saw that I was wearing my Giants’ slouch cap. And we both smiled. We both know the upcoming game will be difficult. And that the Giants may lose. But we both know the Giants have been in far worse positions than this and have succeeded magnificently. And we’re proud of that fact and proud of this team. In the last 24 years, the Giants have won three Super Bowl titles and four NFC Championships. Some of the greatest post-season games in NFL history are New York Giant victories, including Super Bowls XXV and XLII and the 1990 and 2007 NFC Championship Games. The Giants were not given a chance in any of those games too. A mid-season game against the Eagles? Big deal. Glory comes in January and February, not November. If the Eagles or Giants are better on Sunday night, it matters, but not as much as you think.

That said, these types of games are fun. Giants-Eagles. In Philadelphia, a place where the Giants are 4-3 under Tom Coughlin. The Giants are the undermanned underdogs. Fans around the country expect a repeat performance of the Eagles-Redskins game. It’s the Giants against the world, baby, and they wouldn’t have it any other way. As I passed the man in the jacket on my way to work, I found myself smiling and involuntarily punching my fist into my other open hand and saying, “Let’s go!”

Let’s go Giants!

Giants on Offense, Defense, and Special Teams: I’ve read all week that the Giants should do this or do that. Adjust their game plans on defense and offense to deal with the Eagles. Screw that. Play your game New York and let the chips fall where they may. Dictate to the Eagles, don’t let them dictate to you. If they are the better team on Sunday night, so be it. But be who you are and do those things that you do well.

Prediction: Not a clue. But I am sure too much will be made out of this game regardless of who wins.

 
Sorry to be a buzzkill but WR Steve Smith not very optimistic about returning next week. Says it's looking like Dec. 12 vs Min.

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo
I'll see your bad news and raise you one:
By the way, when WR Steve Smith eventually returns, he said "I’ll definitely be limited for the rest of this season, I’m sure." #NYG
@TheBlueScreenI'm not dropping him yet, but ... :headbang:
The good news for Smith, when he returns, is it's his pectoral, not something in his wheels.

His strength are sharps routes and quick cuts. I'm thinking that shouldn't be affected, maybe just his ability to stretch out for the catch.

 
The good news for Smith, when he returns, is it's his pectoral, not something in his wheels.

His strength are sharps routes and quick cuts. I'm thinking that shouldn't be affected, maybe just his ability to stretch out for the catch.
It may limit his ability to get off a DB jamming him at the line.He's back doing individual drills so that's good news.

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Giants' Steve Smith, David Diehl doing work at practice for second straight day

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/12...avid_diehl.html

Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger

For those of you bracing for setbacks after Wednesday's round of good news in Giantsland, you can relax: it wasn't a mirage.

Wide receiver Steve Smith (pectoral muscle), left tackle David Diehl (hip/hamstring) and center Shaun O'Hara (foot) participated in individual drills today. It's unclear at this point how many snaps, if any, they'll get during the team portion of practice (Diehl was the only one of the three to participate in team drills Thursday). The fact they're working for the second straight day is a sign they didn't suffer any setbacks.

Also, DE Osi Umenyiora (knee) is practicing again, as is CB Aaron Ross (back), who was limited on Wednesday.

CB/KR Will Blackmon (chest) is not practicing.

WR Hakeem Nicks (leg) and LT Shawn Andrews (back) were not at practice.

 
Giants' Steve Smith has 'best day of life football-wise' in practice

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/12...as_best_da.html

One might want to be careful not to overstate how good of a practice Steve Smith had today.

Then again, the Giants’ wide receiver was the one who made a pretty strong statement when asked about his most extended action since tearing his pectoral muscle last month.

“It was like the best day of my life football-wise,” Smith said. “You just realize how much you miss playing and practicing.”

Smith was supposed to be limited to 25 percent of the reps during the team portion of practice but said he participated in the entire workout. However, he was held back from some reps, which means he’ll be listed as being limited on the team’s injury report.

But there’s no limiting his enthusiasm right now. When asked how he was doing, he replied, “Good.” Asked if that was “good” with an exclamation point, the understated Smith said, “Yeah, with an exclamation point. With two exclamation points.”

Smith, who said he felt “no pain in catching, no pain in running, I was able to do everything,” believes he’s going to play and doesn’t think he’ll have to convince Tom Coughlin to let him do so.

“I don’t think so. I think Coach wants to see me out there,” he said. “It’s just a matter of mentally going out there and doing it now.”

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The pleasant surprises for the Giants didn’t stop with Smith. WR Hakeem Nicks said he took about three or four reps per offensive session. If you read our earlier entry, you’ll realize that’s a surprise to the upside.

“I did more than I expected, more than we all expected. It felt good,” he said. “I see the doctor today, tell him how I responded, see how I feel tomorrow.”

Asked what could stop him from playing Sunday, Nicks said a reopened wound might cause the doctors to pump the brakes of his return to the field. But he claims the wound, which was wrapped and had a pad over it during practice, was fine today during the workout.

“I ran some gassers Monday,” Nicks said. “I ran about 20 minutes on the treadmill (Tuesday) and today, I stretched it deep a little bit, so it felt pretty good. … My mentality is if I’m practicing, I’m playing. Go hard out there in practice and hopefully they let me play. I’m pretty sure I will.”

Nicks thinks he’ll have every other stitch removed sometime this week and will play with the remaining ones still in his leg. Nicks believes that should provide enough protection for the wound.

Nicks didn’t fall on the injured leg today but almost did when he slipped.

“I caught myself,” he said. “I’m an athlete.”

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Much more from Smith and Nicks coming later on, including a look at how their return might affect the game plan.

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RB Ahmad Bradshaw did not practice today because of a wrist injury, the team announced. Bradshaw was not on the pre-practice injury report and was not available to reporters after practice, so it’s unclear how the injury occurred and how serious it is.

* * * *

KR/CB Will Blackmon (chest) said he's doing much better.

"I can breathe," he said, adding: "The pain was through my chest and through my back. That was pretty rough."

Blackmon said he will play Sunday.

 
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Giants stuck in KC because of bad weather in MN

The NFL said this afternoon the plan remained for the game to kick off at 1 p.m. Eastern time Sunday, even if the Giants were forced to fly to Minnesota in morning. The Jets host the Dolphins at 4:15 p.m., which means both teams would be playing at the same time if the Giants-Vikings kickoff gets moved back.We'll see if the league changes its mind on kickoff. Stay tuned
 

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