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*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Although I'm in the trade McNabb camp, I don't understand why so many folks are so negative about the Eagles hopes next season. The defense had a new coordinator and a ton of injuries, a couple of those (BRADLY) huge ones. With an offense this potent, the defense doesn't have to be but so good to make them a contender, and we weren't that awfully far away last year.

 
Minneapolis star tribune is reporting Mcnabbs 1st choice in a trade is MN. Only thing stopping this is, Favres situation, the fact mcnabb has no say in it, Eagles asking price, MN's willingness to pay that price, contract extention numbers. So I guess if they can get all that sorted out, then maybe theres a chance the Vikes have a QB for the next 3-5 years.

limk form Start tribune to Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/2010..._wish_list.html

 
Minneapolis star tribune is reporting Mcnabbs 1st choice in a trade is MN. Only thing stopping this is, Favres situation, the fact mcnabb has no say in it, Eagles asking price, MN's willingness to pay that price, contract extention numbers. So I guess if they can get all that sorted out, then maybe theres a chance the Vikes have a QB for the next 3-5 years.

limk form Start tribune to Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/2010..._wish_list.html
Minny is one team that I doubt the Eagles want to trade McNabb to. I think you can rule any good NFC teams. The last thing they want is getting killed in the playoffs by McNabb. I think they would take their chances and deal them to a team in the NFC west since its a crap-shoot

 
Minneapolis star tribune is reporting Mcnabbs 1st choice in a trade is MN. Only thing stopping this is, Favres situation, the fact mcnabb has no say in it, Eagles asking price, MN's willingness to pay that price, contract extention numbers. So I guess if they can get all that sorted out, then maybe theres a chance the Vikes have a QB for the next 3-5 years.

limk form Start tribune to Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/2010..._wish_list.html
Minny is one team that I doubt the Eagles want to trade McNabb to. I think you can rule any good NFC teams. The last thing they want is getting killed in the playoffs by McNabb. I think they would take their chances and deal them to a team in the NFC west since its a crap-shoot
That was my 1st thought as well, why would they strengthen an NFC team that will be reeling downward if Favre does not return for 1 more year. I fully support the trade being a Vikings fan, just don't see how the eagles pull the trigger on that deal. i suppose if Mcnabb refuses to renegotiate a new deal with anyone other than MN they are forced to keep him and loose any high value they could get. Then he can negotiate with the 2 teams that i think intrigue him the most. MN and AZ. If Lienart struggles, there are 2 playoff caliber teams he step right into as a F/A.
 
Although I'm in the trade McNabb camp, I don't understand why so many folks are so negative about the Eagles hopes next season. The defense had a new coordinator and a ton of injuries, a couple of those (BRADLY) huge ones. With an offense this potent, the defense doesn't have to be but so good to make them a contender, and we weren't that awfully far away last year.
I agree. Any team that goes through 7 different middle linebackers is gonna have issues.
 
Although I'm in the trade McNabb camp, I don't understand why so many folks are so negative about the Eagles hopes next season. The defense had a new coordinator and a ton of injuries, a couple of those (BRADLY) huge ones. With an offense this potent, the defense doesn't have to be but so good to make them a contender, and we weren't that awfully far away last year.
I agree. Any team that goes through 7 different middle linebackers is gonna have issues.
apparently not considering they released the one they traded a 5th and a decent looking prospect in Gibson for
 
I know I keep saying this, but McNabb won't be an Eagle by week's end most likely.
oh man, I've been one of the few that are very meh about donovan leaving (resigned to the fact, but still not happy about it I guess.) But if we were to get a pick and Nnamdi, Holy Schniekies!!!
 
I know I keep saying this, but McNabb won't be an Eagle by week's end most likely.
oh man, I've been one of the few that are very meh about donovan leaving (resigned to the fact, but still not happy about it I guess.) But if we were to get a pick and Nnamdi, Holy Schniekies!!!
I think Al Davis might be the worse person running a franchise now that Snyder finally realized he isn't going to win using his methods but their is no way the Eagles will get Ashwhatever and a pick for McNabb if anything the Eagles would give the pick.
 
I know I keep saying this, but McNabb won't be an Eagle by week's end most likely.
oh man, I've been one of the few that are very meh about donovan leaving (resigned to the fact, but still not happy about it I guess.) But if we were to get a pick and Nnamdi, Holy Schniekies!!!
I think Al Davis might be the worse person running a franchise now that Snyder finally realized he isn't going to win using his methods but their is no way the Eagles will get Ashwhatever and a pick for McNabb if anything the Eagles would give the pick.
Wouldn't give McNabb+ for Asomugha given the QB position premium and the fact that Asomugha is also huge $$ and will be 29 at the start of the season. But if it came down to McNabb straight up for Asomugha, I would probably do that, since you'd hope to get a player as good as him with a 1st or 2nd round pick for the next 4-5 years. Asomugha plus a high pick would be quite a haul for the Birds.
 
I know I keep saying this, but McNabb won't be an Eagle by week's end most likely.
oh man, I've been one of the few that are very meh about donovan leaving (resigned to the fact, but still not happy about it I guess.) But if we were to get a pick and Nnamdi, Holy Schniekies!!!
I think Al Davis might be the worse person running a franchise now that Snyder finally realized he isn't going to win using his methods but their is no way the Eagles will get Ashwhatever and a pick for McNabb if anything the Eagles would give the pick.
Wouldn't give McNabb+ for Asomugha given the QB position premium and the fact that Asomugha is also huge $$ and will be 29 at the start of the season. But if it came down to McNabb straight up for Asomugha, I would probably do that, since you'd hope to get a player as good as him with a 1st or 2nd round pick for the next 4-5 years. Asomugha plus a high pick would be quite a haul for the Birds.
I keep thinking that picks are more likely than something involving Asomugha. Asomugha is in the final year of his deal, and from what I've read he can make up to $20 million this year ($13 million minimum) and then cannot be franchised next year due to language built into his deal (unlike McNabb, who could be franchised). To me, that makes him very, very tough to sign to a long term deal - much more so than Donovan. The only way I see Asomugha coming to us in a trade is if the Raiders need to shed $$$ to sign McNabb and he's added to the package coming our way because of it (yes, I know it's an uncapped year, but wasn't Al Davis hurting for coin a few years back?). I guess Sheldon would have to be included in that kind of deal?
 
If Al Davis lands McNabb for only the 39th pick, he's made the best move of any GM this offseason.

Now if it's 39 + Aso, that's a different story.

 
If Al Davis lands McNabb for only the 39th pick, he's made the best move of any GM this offseason.Now if it's 39 + Aso, that's a different story.
Aso and 39 makes the most sense to me as well - I think that would be a good deal for both teams, actually. I think the Raiders would instantly be better, and our fate would then rest on Kolb who will hopefully be able to pick up where he left off against NO and KC. I didn't think he looked good in the pre-season last year b4 he got hurt (Lehigh), but he looked good in those games.As mentioned by others, I have to trust that the Eagles wouldn't trade Donovan if Kolb wasn't ready to take the reigns...
 
So many mixed feelings on Donovan.

He helped the Eagles to become a perennial contender - but not much more. That's the crux of the argument on both sides of the fence.

Remember the days of the Eagles - pre-Donovan and before Reid? How about Marion Campbell and Rich Kotite? Doug Peterson and Rodney Peete? (Okay, Peete won a playoff game vs. Detroit, but aside from that....)

The Eagles used to be an also-ran for years after Buddy Ryan. They were really bad. Then came Reid and Donovan. For 11 years now, the Eagles have been right there for the most part, contending for the division and a run reasonably deep into the postseason. For that I thank both Reid and McNabb - and I'll throw the FO in there as well for setting them both up to win (although some decent WRs would have been nice).

If McNabb is truly gone, it is a pivotal change for the organization. McNabb has taken them as far as he can take them - that's the admission. They move him now to get something vs. nothing (or a comp pick - yippee) after this season. Kolb marks the completion of the changing of the offensive guard that's occurred since DeSean became an Eagle almost two years ago. How ironic that the weapons McNabb wanted around him are still there and he'd be the one taken away?

As someone that can remember how bad it was before the Eagles were a near-lock for 10+ wins each season, I'm thankful for McNabb and Reid - but now I recognize that this is the time to move forward, and possibly a little step backward, to hopefully make the ultimate big climb up Mt. Lombardi.

 
So many mixed feelings on Donovan.He helped the Eagles to become a perennial contender - but not much more. That's the crux of the argument on both sides of the fence.Remember the days of the Eagles - pre-Donovan and before Reid? How about Marion Campbell and Rich Kotite? Doug Peterson and Rodney Peete? (Okay, Peete won a playoff game vs. Detroit, but aside from that....)The Eagles used to be an also-ran for years after Buddy Ryan. They were really bad. Then came Reid and Donovan. For 11 years now, the Eagles have been right there for the most part, contending for the division and a run reasonably deep into the postseason. For that I thank both Reid and McNabb - and I'll throw the FO in there as well for setting them both up to win (although some decent WRs would have been nice).If McNabb is truly gone, it is a pivotal change for the organization. McNabb has taken them as far as he can take them - that's the admission. They move him now to get something vs. nothing (or a comp pick - yippee) after this season. Kolb marks the completion of the changing of the offensive guard that's occurred since DeSean became an Eagle almost two years ago. How ironic that the weapons McNabb wanted around him are still there and he'd be the one taken away?As someone that can remember how bad it was before the Eagles were a near-lock for 10+ wins each season, I'm thankful for McNabb and Reid - but now I recognize that this is the time to move forward, and possibly a little step backward, to hopefully make the ultimate big climb up Mt. Lombardi.
:)
 
If Al Davis lands McNabb for only the 39th pick, he's made the best move of any GM this offseason.Now if it's 39 + Aso, that's a different story.
I would also be disappointed with just the #39, now that Aso is a possibility. I would rather have McNabb straight up for Aso or McNabb + Sheldon for Aso +39.
 
Quick question but has a player been traded due to media/fans before? Thats where this McNabb thing is heading.

Now back to eagles. Do they really expect to fill some pretty big holes through the draft?

* = starter

Needs: C* - S*- LB** - RB - CB - DE - DT - G - OT

They are banking that Bradley is 100%. We seen how that worked with St.Andrews. Gocong & Spoon are gone so that leave who?

Whose to say Stacy Andrews will even be good? Whose the back up OGs? Cole...MJG...??? Ugh

Uh...McGlynn i believe is the penciled in center....yea ...fun times

back up OTs??? Dunlap.....?

Going to go with the 10 crap DE rotation opposite Cole?

While i like Bunk and Patt at DTs ,,,whose the back up to push for starter????

Safety...no need to say anything

Will sheldon hold out?? Hanson has looked like complete ### since coming back from suspension...then who?

edit: forget they signed bell which solves the RB thing. Marlin Jackson too but really...is he healthy??

 
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If Al Davis lands McNabb for only the 39th pick, he's made the best move of any GM this offseason.Now if it's 39 + Aso, that's a different story.
I would also be disappointed with just the #39, now that Aso is a possibility. I would rather have McNabb straight up for Aso or McNabb + Sheldon for Aso +39.
Aso + Samuel would equal 20 million a year at corner. Not practical. I think Aso only has one more year on his deal so a trade for him is basically meaningless.
 
What's with Asante samuel not reporting yesterday? Is he upset too? Or is he just working out with his own trainer?

 
Quick question but has a player been traded due to media/fans before? Thats where this McNabb thing is heading.
:thumbup: Common sense dictates that SOMEONE has to be traded. Strong arguments can be made whether that someone is McNabb or Kolb, and the fanbase is split. Either way...the fans/media have never, and will never force AR's hand.
 
So many mixed feelings on Donovan.He helped the Eagles to become a perennial contender - but not much more. That's the crux of the argument on both sides of the fence.Remember the days of the Eagles - pre-Donovan and before Reid? How about Marion Campbell and Rich Kotite? Doug Peterson and Rodney Peete? (Okay, Peete won a playoff game vs. Detroit, but aside from that....)The Eagles used to be an also-ran for years after Buddy Ryan. They were really bad. Then came Reid and Donovan. For 11 years now, the Eagles have been right there for the most part, contending for the division and a run reasonably deep into the postseason. For that I thank both Reid and McNabb - and I'll throw the FO in there as well for setting them both up to win (although some decent WRs would have been nice).If McNabb is truly gone, it is a pivotal change for the organization. McNabb has taken them as far as he can take them - that's the admission. They move him now to get something vs. nothing (or a comp pick - yippee) after this season. Kolb marks the completion of the changing of the offensive guard that's occurred since DeSean became an Eagle almost two years ago. How ironic that the weapons McNabb wanted around him are still there and he'd be the one taken away?As someone that can remember how bad it was before the Eagles were a near-lock for 10+ wins each season, I'm thankful for McNabb and Reid - but now I recognize that this is the time to move forward, and possibly a little step backward, to hopefully make the ultimate big climb up Mt. Lombardi.
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I second :unsure:
 
Quick question but has a player been traded due to media/fans before? Thats where this McNabb thing is heading.
No, and please stop with this nonsense. The Eagles have NEVER done anything remotely close to what the fans want, if anything they would do the opposite. And the reason I believe they are trading Mcnabb is this....
Now back to eagles. Do they really expect to fill some pretty big holes through the draft? * = starter Needs: C* - S*- LB** - RB - CB - DE - DT - G - OTThey are banking that Bradley is 100%. We seen how that worked with St.Andrews. Gocong & Spoon are gone so that leave who? Whose to say Stacy Andrews will even be good? Whose the back up OGs? Cole...MJG...??? UghUh...McGlynn i believe is the penciled in center....yea ...fun timesback up OTs??? Dunlap.....?Going to go with the 10 crap DE rotation opposite Cole?While i like Bunk and Patt at DTs ,,,whose the back up to push for starter????Safety...no need to say anythingWill sheldon hold out?? Hanson has looked like complete ### since coming back from suspension...then who?edit: forget they signed bell which solves the RB thing. Marlin Jackson too but really...is he healthy??
The rest of your post is the reason why they're trading him. They're young, and don't have enough talent to win the Super Bowl next year. With or without McNabb. So why not go all out and let Kolb take the reigns with the younger guys and make it his team? It's a changing of the guard, and if the last two games against Dallas are any indication, we NEED a change.
 
Gocong is gone?
Apparently that is the rumor, him and rocca are soon to be gone.
Gocong and Hobbs sign tenders......nationalfootballpost.com

Hobbs, Gocong sign tenders with Eagles

Neither was expected to depart as restricted free agents

Brad Biggs

The Philadelphia Eagles announced that two of their restricted free agents have signed their one-year tenders, adding them to the fold for the offseason program.

Cornerback Ellis Hobbs, who missed the second half of the season with a neck injury, and linebacker Chris Gocong boh put their signatures to contracts today.

The Eagles are expecting Hobbs to return to form. They traded for him with New England on draft weekend last season. He played in the first eight games before injuring his neck in a game vs. Dallas and requiring disc surgery. Hobbs, who was tendered at the first-round level was the No. 3 corner in a rotation with Asante Samuel and Sheldon Brown.

Gocong was tendered at the original round of compensation level, meaning he would have cost an opposing team a third-round pick to sign away. He began last season as the strong-side linebacker before Moise Fokou took over. Gocong has made 35 career starts.
also:philadelphieagles.com

March 30, 2010 | Last Updated: 3/30/2010 12:25 PM ET

Hobbs, Gocong Sign One-Year Deals

Cornerback Ellis Hobbs and linebacker Chris Gocong were each signed to a one-year contract on Tuesday. Both players were restricted free agents this off-season and were tendered the one-year deals by the Eagles. Neither player can now sign with another team. The deadline for teams to sign other teams' restricted free agents to an offer sheet is April 15.

Hobbs was acquired by the Eagles last year in a draft-day trade with the New England Patriots. Hobbs was the lead kickoff return specialist as well as a reserve outside cornerback for the Eagles before suffering a season-ending neck injury against the Dallas Cowboys last November. Hobbs averaged 24.1 yards per kickoff return and had 14 total tackles on defense in 2009. Hobbs started games in each of his first four years in the NFL with the Patriots. In all, Hobbs has started in 49 games (played in 71) and has accumulated 211 tackles, 2.5 sacks and nine interceptions. He has also returned three kickoffs for a touchdown. In 2007, Hobbs set an NFL record with a kickoff return of 108 yards for a touchdown.

Gocong was a third-round draft pick of the Eagles in 2006 and has turned into an excellent run stopper on the strong side. Last year, Gocong started at both strongside and middle linebacker spots, recording 50 tackles, a sack, a forced fumble and a pair of pass knockdowns. After spending his rookie year on injured reserve, Gocong has started games in each of the past three seasons. In 47 career games (35 starts), Gocong has 203 tackles, 4.0 sacks, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery. He also has 39 career special teams tackles.

-- Posted by Chris McPherson, 12:22 p.m., March 30
 
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Well Gocong is still here. I actually thought he would be traded to a 3-4 team.

That leaves Bradley, Jordan at LB....Gocong wasnt good enough so he was benched...then there is....Mays? lol Like Jeff said...??????????????

They already have a DE standing up in Gocong.

 
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Well Gocong is still here. I actually thought he would be traded to a 3-4 team. That leaves Bradley, Jordan at LB....Gocong wasnt good enough so he was benched...then there is....Mays? lol Like Jeff said...??????????????They already have a DE standing up in Gocong.
I have no problem with keeping Gocong, but as long as he is used as a DE. Which happens to be the position that he excelled at in college. He is the size of DE that the Eagles normally look for. He has already proven that the move to LB is a failure, so I would also think that is the last option left.
 
I have no idea why people are so convinced Gocong would be great in a 3-4 or DE. Because of his college career? Gocong is a four-year NFL veteran and has yet to show a lick of pass rush ability.

Gocong is run-stuffing linebacker in the NFL, not a pass rusher.

 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.

 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
I thought similarly but a trade with SF. Where Eagles give McNabb and #24 for SF #1.17 and #2.17. Eagles would take Earl Thomas. This was before all of the Oakland rumors. Which I still have a hard time believing.
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Moving up to the #8 spot from #24 would be equivalent to getting the #28 overall pick. You think McNabb is worth a first AND a second rounder?
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Sal Pal was just on 950 and said he just got off the phone with a senior Eagles official and that they have multiple offers for McNabb, but none better then a 3rd rounder. Although he did say that there were also offers for players and he even threw in "pro-bowl type". How valuable do you think Mcnabb is?
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Moving up to the #8 spot from #24 would be equivalent to getting the #28 overall pick. You think McNabb is worth a first AND a second rounder?
A first and 2nd rounder would be if we didn't give up pick #24 in the deal, so clearly that's not what I said. The 16 pick bump up would be the very close to the “equivalent” of Darrius Heyward-Bey (7th overall) and Percy Harvin (22 overall). The only reason to move up in a draft is to grab someone you want who falls to you, and that can’t be determined before draft day.
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Sal Pal was just on 950 and said he just got off the phone with a senior Eagles official and that they have multiple offers for McNabb, but none better then a 3rd rounder. Although he did say that there were also offers for players and he even threw in "pro-bowl type". How valuable do you think Mcnabb is?
We know more then Sal Pal.Hell i just seen an espn headline that said there are no frontrunners for mcnabb, when yesterday it say oakland was the frontrunner.
I have no idea why people are so convinced Gocong would be great in a 3-4 or DE. Because of his college career? Gocong is a four-year NFL veteran and has yet to show a lick of pass rush ability. Gocong is run-stuffing linebacker in the NFL, not a pass rusher.
Gocong never played LB. Eagles FO with their brilliant scheming over the years tried converting him to a LB. While not great, he wasn't bad either. I too would love to see what he could have done at his natural position. I swear its like that are playing madden, going through their roster, seeing their holes and changing positions on players to see who gets the better overall...then doing it IRL Much like andys gameday adjustments ( ask madden button ) on playcalling
 
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Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Moving up to the #8 spot from #24 would be equivalent to getting the #28 overall pick. You think McNabb is worth a first AND a second rounder?
A first and 2nd rounder would be if we didn't give up pick #24 in the deal, so clearly that's not what I said. The 16 pick bump up would be the very close to the “equivalent” of Darrius Heyward-Bey (7th overall) and Percy Harvin (22 overall). The only reason to move up in a draft is to grab someone you want who falls to you, and that can’t be determined before draft day.
Think again. Your trade is like the Eagles getting a NET offer of a first (#28) and a second round pick.
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Sal Pal was just on 950 and said he just got off the phone with a senior Eagles official and that they have multiple offers for McNabb, but none better then a 3rd rounder. Although he did say that there were also offers for players and he even threw in "pro-bowl type". How valuable do you think Mcnabb is?
So you don't know the specific players that were offered in addition to these (speculated) 3rd round picks, but yet you are throwing this out there to state definitively what McNabb's perceived trade value is? Really??? :moneybag:
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Moving up to the #8 spot from #24 would be equivalent to getting the #28 overall pick. You think McNabb is worth a first AND a second rounder?
A first and 2nd rounder would be if we didn't give up pick #24 in the deal, so clearly that's not what I said. The 16 pick bump up would be the very close to the “equivalent” of Darrius Heyward-Bey (7th overall) and Percy Harvin (22 overall). The only reason to move up in a draft is to grab someone you want who falls to you, and that can’t be determined before draft day.
Think again. Your trade is like the Eagles getting a NET offer of a first (#28) and a second round pick.
Why do I need to think again - because you're "trade evaluator" tells you so? I'll stick with my Heyward-Bey / Harvin example as to why I feel that McNabb, a 6 time pro bowler, is worth more than moving up slightly in the 1st.
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Sal Pal was just on 950 and said he just got off the phone with a senior Eagles official and that they have multiple offers for McNabb, but none better then a 3rd rounder. Although he did say that there were also offers for players and he even threw in "pro-bowl type". How valuable do you think Mcnabb is?
So you don't know the specific players that were offered in addition to these (speculated) 3rd round picks, but yet you are throwing this out there to state definitively what McNabb's perceived trade value is? Really??? :rolleyes:
No Sal Pal said there were offers for picks and he emphasised the word picks. He also said they have had offers for player(s) some were pro-bowl type. He never said that they were a combination of picks AND players. He also said they haven't been offered anything higher then a 3rd. And where am I stating McNabb's value, I'm asking your opinion? :thumbup: If they were offered a 1st rounder, they would have already made a trade.
 
Why do I need to think again - because you're "trade evaluator" tells you so? I'll stick with my Heyward-Bey / Harvin example as to why I feel that McNabb, a 6 time pro bowler, is worth more than moving up slightly in the 1st.
You're example is nonsensical and moving up half the draft board (16 spots) is more than "slightly."
 
Also, this is only my opinion. But I think a deal for Philly and Oakland would be McNabb & #24 for Oakland's #8. That would put McNabb's value at the #28 pick in the 1st. I think that is close to his value and would be enough to make the Eagles happy. Plus, it might explain bringing Berry in for a workout.
Trading McNabb to move up 16 spots in the first would be a horrible trade, IMHO. I think it would have to be something like McNabb and #24 for #8 and #39. It's almost appaling to me how little some fans think McNabb is worth. Additionally, Berry probably won't be there at #8.
Sal Pal was just on 950 and said he just got off the phone with a senior Eagles official and that they have multiple offers for McNabb, but none better then a 3rd rounder. Although he did say that there were also offers for players and he even threw in "pro-bowl type". How valuable do you think Mcnabb is?
So you don't know the specific players that were offered in addition to these (speculated) 3rd round picks, but yet you are throwing this out there to state definitively what McNabb's perceived trade value is? Really??? :rolleyes:
No Sal Pal said there were offers for picks and he emphasised the word picks. He also said they have had offers for player(s) some were pro-bowl type. He never said that they were a combination of picks AND players. He also said they haven't been offered anything higher then a 3rd. And where am I stating McNabb's value, I'm asking your opinion? :shrug: If they were offered a 1st rounder, they would have already made a trade.
Sorry, I misinterpreted what you wrote...Here's what I saw in the latest article:

""There is no so-called front-runner," the senior team official said. "We continue to engage in conversations with multiple teams that initially contacted us. Some of the offers involve draft picks, some involve a player, some involve many players. We are evaluating the offers. But if some team had totally blown us away, we would probably have made a deal already.""

Link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5041747

I myself think along the lines of that article - IMHO, you have to have something that comes close to blowing you away to trade McNabb. That same article indicated that they might not even be happy with the 42nd pick or higher, which I'm not surprised at either. When it was looking like we were dealing with the Raiders, I thought #39 and Aso for McNabb and Brown would have been good for both sides. Honestly, I don't think pick 39 is enough - if it was me making the decision, it would have to be a bit sweeter than that.

 

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