***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

There is trouble afoot folks.

Castillo looks absolutely lost. Where are the in-game adjustments? Where are the scheme changes to address the obvious issues -- our LB and safety? The fact Page and Coleman continue to get the starts says A LOT about Allen and Jarrett. Very disheartening.

 

[Insein]

There is trouble afoot folks. Castillo looks absolutely lost. Where are the in-game adjustments? Where are the scheme changes to address the obvious issues -- our LB and safety? The fact Page and Coleman continue to get the starts says A LOT about Allen and Jarrett. Very disheartening.

That's what I'm worried about. Is Jarrett really that bad? Can he possibly be worse than Page or Coleman?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

After 3 weeks we've given up the most passing TD's in the league....

 

[dhockster]

The depressing thing is the SF/Buff/Was stretch looked like 3 straight wins before the season. If the Redskins win tonight,

two of those teams will be 3-0. With the defense the way it is, and having to bring in a back-up QB, I am hoping for 2-1 over

the next 3 weeks, although I think 1-2 is more likely. I think Buffalo's offense is for real, and I think the Redskins are overall

much improved.

Here's hoping Kafka (or Young) performs well as starter, and Castillo and the defense get a clue.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Agree that Buffalo's offense is the real deal. They weren't that bad last year and now they have additional weapons and another year of experience. Redskins also look much improved. I still think the Niners are a fraud. Agree that the Eagles would go 2-1 at best without Vick but more likely 1-2. With Vick, all 3 are winnable games.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6SL-GRnhA

Way to spend 10 million a year on this, the worst tackling ever, and he gets 10 million for it.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Wow the tone in this thread sure changed from unstoppable to 8-8. I agree that Eagles have tons of issues but far too early to write them off as mediocre and this coming from a Cowboys fan

Vick's hand is NOT broken, just bad bruise.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Wow the tone in this thread sure changed from unstoppable to 8-8. I agree that Eagles have tons of issues but far too early to write them off as mediocre and this coming from a Cowboys fan

Vick's hand is NOT broken, just bad bruise.

So a GD bruise on his non-throwing hand is what kept him out of the game. Awesome.I'm not shocked this came up a "bruise" though....you can almost feel the panic in the air.

 

[Insein]

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Wow the tone in this thread sure changed from unstoppable to 8-8. I agree that Eagles have tons of issues but far too early to write them off as mediocre and this coming from a Cowboys fan

Vick's hand is NOT broken, just bad bruise.

Any word on whether or not he's still out for at least this week? They weren't very clear on the radio.

 

[Insein]

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Wow the tone in this thread sure changed from unstoppable to 8-8. I agree that Eagles have tons of issues but far too early to write them off as mediocre and this coming from a Cowboys fan

Vick's hand is NOT broken, just bad bruise.

So a GD bruise on his non-throwing hand is what kept him out of the game. Awesome.I'm not shocked thsi came up a "bruise" though....you can almost feel the panic in the air.

A loss to SF at home and you can hear the Andy Reid death march begin. Lurie will not be happy if he had to put $80mil into Mike vick without any immediate result. Reid will be the goat this year if it all goes south.

 

[Amused to Death]

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Wow the tone in this thread sure changed from unstoppable to 8-8. I agree that Eagles have tons of issues but far too early to write them off as mediocre and this coming from a Cowboys fan

Vick's hand is NOT broken, just bad bruise.

I hope this means he can help keep opposing WRs out of the endzone.

 

[eaglezzz]

Best news of the past 2 weeks hearing that Vick's hand is not broken. I would say give the guy next week off and if we can't beat the 49ers without Vick at home this team is in trouble anyways. No need to write the Eagles off at an 8-8 season just yet, it is a long year.

The defense has to take sole blame for what happened yesterday it was just aweful to watch. Our $100 defense better start making some plays and winning us some games.

 

[renesauz]

The depleted Giants punch the Dream Team in the mouth in front of their home crowd !!!!!!!BIG BLUE!!!!!!

Reported.Seriously...juvenile posts like this don't belong in a team thread dedicated for fans of the team. It would be one thing if this was an isolated post minutes after the game ended...its another when its a repeat the next day.

 

[Insein]

The depleted Giants punch the Dream Team in the mouth in front of their home crowd !!!!!!!BIG BLUE!!!!!!

Reported.Seriously...juvenile posts like this don't belong in a team thread dedicated for fans of the team. It would be one thing if this was an isolated post minutes after the game ended...its another when its a repeat the next day.

Just go back to late august when he did the same thing. He's just trolling the Eagles thread. I was just ignoring him like everyone else this time.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

AR: maclin day to day, not as bad as initially thought

_Geoff Mosher on twitter

Vick's day-to-day as well

 

[eaglezzz]

AR: maclin day to day, not as bad as initially thought_Geoff Mosher on twitterVick's day-to-day as well

Both are great news indeed

 

[Bigboy10182000]

For anyone wondering per CBS Twitter:

"Blood vessel sitting over the bone, made it look like there's a fracture," Reid on Vick. Says there's no break.

***So this would explain why he didn't re-enter the game. Now it makes a bit more sense.

 

[Wooderson]

I hope they sit Vick next week. Give the hand some time and also the head as he still seemed a little off on Sunday.

 

[Insein]

I hope they sit Vick next week. Give the hand some time and also the head as he still seemed a little off on Sunday.

He definitely shouldnt have rushed him back this week.

 

[thriftyrocker]

This really adds fuel to the conspiracy theory that his head got rattled by that hit and his hand never really was an issue. When he came back his hand wasn't taped at all and he basically just handed it off a bunch of times and didn't try to run or throw at all. Given he normally only holds the ball with his left hand anyway, it seems like he just didn't want to risk another hit.

 

[CentralPA]

This team is defintely overrated but I think there is still time to right the ship. They need to come out and smack the niners in the mouth next Sunday, give us some semblance of hope that this team isn't a total f*** up.

 

[delusional]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=aM6SL-GRnhA

Way to spend 10 million a year on this, the worst tackling ever, and he gets 10 million for it.

He is payed to cover. Not to tackle..that is what safeties are payed to do, which Coleman ( i think it was him ) failed to do and in trying to do so actually took NM out of the play. That play is the reason Coleman was BENCHED right after in favor of Allen

 

[simmonjm]

The depleted Giants punch the Dream Team in the mouth in front of their home crowd !!!!!!!BIG BLUE!!!!!!

Reported.Seriously...juvenile posts like this don't belong in a team thread dedicated for fans of the team. It would be one thing if this was an isolated post minutes after the game ended...its another when its a repeat the next day.

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Perhaps your boasting before the game opened the door for these type of posts. Not saying their constructive by any means but when you make posts like the one above hard to cry foul.

 

[crewmember]

Eagles need to take cheap shots at other teams QBs in return if the Refs aren't going to do their job.

Also I don't usually bash Reid, but going for it on 4th down at midfield when you just proved you couldn't pick up a yard was very stupid. They had the lead and that was an easy punt, easily the biggest play in the game.

 

[crewmember]

This really adds fuel to the conspiracy theory that his head got rattled by that hit and his hand never really was an issue. When he came back his hand wasn't taped at all and he basically just handed it off a bunch of times and didn't try to run or throw at all. Given he normally only holds the ball with his left hand anyway, it seems like he just didn't want to risk another hit.

Good point, not much talk about how he grabbed his head after that hit. If you hurt your hand why would you grab your head, unless that wasn't the play he hurt his hand. Also could have been coincidence but he didn't know they were kicking a field goal at the end of the half and had to rush off the field. Probably should have sat him this week.

 

[renesauz]

The depleted Giants punch the Dream Team in the mouth in front of their home crowd !!!!!!!BIG BLUE!!!!!!

Reported.Seriously...juvenile posts like this don't belong in a team thread dedicated for fans of the team. It would be one thing if this was an isolated post minutes after the game ended...its another when its a repeat the next day.

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Perhaps your boasting before the game opened the door for these type of posts. Not saying their constructive by any means but when you make posts like the one above hard to cry foul.

I didn't make the post in the "Official Giants thread". I made it in the "Official Eagles thread". It's pretty well understoof that these threads are for fans of the specific teams...you don't bash another team in their own thread.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The depleted Giants punch the Dream Team in the mouth in front of their home crowd !!!!!!!BIG BLUE!!!!!!

Reported.Seriously...juvenile posts like this don't belong in a team thread dedicated for fans of the team. It would be one thing if this was an isolated post minutes after the game ended...its another when its a repeat the next day.

Philly's gonna smoke the Giants...stack 8 in the box and go man up on their recievers, while the Giants secondary won't be able to stop Jackson and Maclin. It's gonna get ugly, divisional foe or not.42-10 Philly.

Perhaps your boasting before the game opened the door for these type of posts. Not saying their constructive by any means but when you make posts like the one above hard to cry foul.

I didn't make the post in the "Official Giants thread". I made it in the "Official Eagles thread". It's pretty well understoof that these threads are for fans of the specific teams...you don't bash another team in their own thread.

Also, he didn't respond directly to your post. He was just being a tool. You were being a confident (although slightly misguided ) fan

 

[delusional]

This really adds fuel to the conspiracy theory that his head got rattled by that hit and his hand never really was an issue. When he came back his hand wasn't taped at all and he basically just handed it off a bunch of times and didn't try to run or throw at all. Given he normally only holds the ball with his left hand anyway, it seems like he just didn't want to risk another hit.

Good point, not much talk about how he grabbed his head after that hit. If you hurt your hand why would you grab your head, unless that wasn't the play he hurt his hand. Also could have been coincidence but he didn't know they were kicking a field goal at the end of the half and had to rush off the field. Probably should have sat him this week.

His hand was an issue. The fact he grabbed his head is because he was just hit in the face with Canty ( think that is who it was ) helmet. Dude came in and smacked vick low in the face mask with his crown. He probably didnt feel the hand until a minute or so later

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Apparently Reid said that we will see some new guys in new spots this Sunday but didn't indicate who or where.

 

[Jason Wood]

First change announced.

Matthews went from starting MLB to starting WLB to the bench in two weeks (thank the Gods!)

Brian Rolle the new starting WLB:

http://twitter.com/#!/LesBowen/status/119086493976379392

 

[Bigboy10182000]

First change announced.Matthews went from starting MLB to starting WLB to the bench in two weeks (thank the Gods!)Brian Rolle the new starting WLB:http://twitter.com/#!/LesBowen/status/119086493976379392

I don't have the access at the moment but am dying to know the average size of our WILL Lbers over the last 5-7 years...they have to be the smallest in the game.

 

[unckeyherb]

Mathews being benched is the best news I've heard all year.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And Nate Allen is now starting over Coleman

 

[Snotbubbles]

We should fire Juan Castillo and hire Mike Martz as the defensive coordinator.

Then we should fire Marty Morningwheg and hire **** Lebeau as the offensive coordinator.

Who won the footballguys subscriber contest last year. We should get him to write some letters to Joe Banner. Maybe they'll let him be the GM and we can fire Howie Roseman.

 

[Irish Chaos]

Is vick really going to start or is this just eagles gamemanship??

 

[bushdocda]

Mathews being benched is the best news I've heard all year.

But his brother is the good?!!!

 

[Jason Wood]

Nate Allen starting is encouraging

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Nate Allen starting is encouraging

After seeing what Ahmad Bradshaw did to him I just can't get on board.

 

[Mcnabbfan]

There is trouble afoot folks. Castillo looks absolutely lost. Where are the in-game adjustments? Where are the scheme changes to address the obvious issues -- our LB and safety? The fact Page and Coleman continue to get the starts says A LOT about Allen and Jarrett. Very disheartening.

That's what I'm worried about. Is Jarrett really that bad? Can he possibly be worse than Page or Coleman?

This is exactly what I am thinking. Jarrett cannot be any worse than Page. With the limits the new CBA places on contact in practice,they need to get him on the field to get a feeling for the physicality and speed of the game. Plus, watching Page trying to run somebody down makes me think that despite being over-weight, I could beat him in a race.

 

[Gold Standard]

I just don't think it's fair to beat up on these rookies (i.e. Watkins, Jarrett and Matthews) without the benefit of literally no offseason whatsoever. From the time these guys were drafted to opening day, you're talking about them being exposed to the system for 4 1/2 months. These guys went from being drafted to not being allowed to so much as go into the NovaCare complex for four months. Next thing you know these guys are in Lehigh. Come on guys, be a little fair here, I know everyone is dissapointed, but they have had entirely new coaching philosophies installed without the benefit of anyone really having exposure to it. I can't say I'm shocked watching Kurt Coleman bouncing off of a 2nd rate WR like a pinball, he was drafted in the 7th rd while playing in the big 10. Late round draft picks by and large are not as good as guys taken early. Maybe after showing how important LB play is in this system, they'll start treating the poistion with urgency come this years draft.

 

[jasvic]

I just don't think it's fair to beat up on these rookies (i.e. Watkins, Jarrett and Matthews) without the benefit of literally no offseason whatsoever. From the time these guys were drafted to opening day, you're talking about them being exposed to the system for 4 1/2 months. These guys went from being drafted to not being allowed to so much as go into the NovaCare complex for four months. Next thing you know these guys are in Lehigh. Come on guys, be a little fair here, I know everyone is dissapointed, but they have had entirely new coaching philosophies installed without the benefit of anyone really having exposure to it. I can't say I'm shocked watching Kurt Coleman bouncing off of a 2nd rate WR like a pinball, he was drafted in the 7th rd while playing in the big 10. Late round draft picks by and large are not as good as guys taken early. Maybe after showing how important LB play is in this system, they'll start treating the poistion with urgency come this years draft.

Personally, I don't blame the players for this exact reason. I blame the team for putting themselves in this position, knowing the off season would be cut short. I don't get their logic here.

 

[renesauz]

I just don't think it's fair to beat up on these rookies (i.e. Watkins, Jarrett and Matthews) without the benefit of literally no offseason whatsoever. From the time these guys were drafted to opening day, you're talking about them being exposed to the system for 4 1/2 months. These guys went from being drafted to not being allowed to so much as go into the NovaCare complex for four months. Next thing you know these guys are in Lehigh. Come on guys, be a little fair here, I know everyone is dissapointed, but they have had entirely new coaching philosophies installed without the benefit of anyone really having exposure to it. I can't say I'm shocked watching Kurt Coleman bouncing off of a 2nd rate WR like a pinball, he was drafted in the 7th rd while playing in the big 10. Late round draft picks by and large are not as good as guys taken early. Maybe after showing how important LB play is in this system, they'll start treating the poistion with urgency come this years draft.

Personally, I don't blame the players for this exact reason. I blame the team for putting themselves in this position, knowing the off season would be cut short. I don't get their logic here.

Not sure this is even fair. No way the Eagles know in the spring how short the off-season would end up being, and no way should they have changed their plans without sure knowledge.It seems that Philly struggles in the first few weeks of most seasons, and usually goes on a tear in teh second half. I'm not sure why this year would be any differant, especially with new systems coaches and players all over the dang place. This team will be significantly better in the second half of the season, especialy on defense.I'm as dissapointed as anyone in the start, but let's back away from the cliff. Get those LBs to play even near average, and this is a deep playoff team.

 

[unckeyherb]

I just don't think it's fair to beat up on these rookies (i.e. Watkins, Jarrett and Matthews) without the benefit of literally no offseason whatsoever. From the time these guys were drafted to opening day, you're talking about them being exposed to the system for 4 1/2 months. These guys went from being drafted to not being allowed to so much as go into the NovaCare complex for four months. Next thing you know these guys are in Lehigh. Come on guys, be a little fair here, I know everyone is dissapointed, but they have had entirely new coaching philosophies installed without the benefit of anyone really having exposure to it. I can't say I'm shocked watching Kurt Coleman bouncing off of a 2nd rate WR like a pinball, he was drafted in the 7th rd while playing in the big 10. Late round draft picks by and large are not as good as guys taken early. Maybe after showing how important LB play is in this system, they'll start treating the poistion with urgency come this years draft.

Personally, I don't blame the players for this exact reason. I blame the team for putting themselves in this position, knowing the off season would be cut short. I don't get their logic here.

Not sure this is even fair. No way the Eagles know in the spring how short the off-season would end up being, and no way should they have changed their plans without sure knowledge.It seems that Philly struggles in the first few weeks of most seasons, and usually goes on a tear in teh second half. I'm not sure why this year would be any differant, especially with new systems coaches and players all over the dang place. This team will be significantly better in the second half of the season, especialy on defense.

I'm as dissapointed as anyone in the start, but let's back away from the cliff. Get those LBs to play even near average, and this is a deep playoff team.

Seemingly everyone on this site knew that while there would be a full season, there would be a shortened off-season. Surely the Eagles could have made some basic assumptions and game planned for it. Obviously they could have banked on there not being a full off season to get their rookies ready to start?

 

[renesauz]

Seemingly everyone on this site knew that while there would be a full season, there would be a shortened off-season. Surely the Eagles could have made some basic assumptions and game planned for it. Obviously they could have banked on there not being a full off season to get their rookies ready to start?

HOW do you game plan for it? They set themselves up for the FA free for all in 09 and 2010...not the spring. It was a good plan hamstrung by an off-season shortened a lot more than anyone could have reasonably predicted a year ago.Were they supposed to stand pat on the coaches? "It might be a shorter off-seasons than we thought, so we better not fire our Defensive coordinator!" When you take an honest look at when the moves were made, I'm not so sure that its remotely fair to assume that they could have done anything all that differant to account for a shortened off-season. Lots of things to criticize the Eagles over (what idiot thought these LB's were starter quality?), but blaming them for not accounting for the short off-season just isn't one of the fair criticisms.

 

[unckeyherb]

Seemingly everyone on this site knew that while there would be a full season, there would be a shortened off-season. Surely the Eagles could have made some basic assumptions and game planned for it. Obviously they could have banked on there not being a full off season to get their rookies ready to start?

HOW do you game plan for it? They set themselves up for the FA free for all in 09 and 2010...not the spring. It was a good plan hamstrung by an off-season shortened a lot more than anyone could have reasonably predicted a year ago.Were they supposed to stand pat on the coaches? "It might be a shorter off-seasons than we thought, so we better not fire our Defensive coordinator!" When you take an honest look at when the moves were made, I'm not so sure that its remotely fair to assume that they could have done anything all that differant to account for a shortened off-season. Lots of things to criticize the Eagles over (what idiot thought these LB's were starter quality?), but blaming them for not accounting for the short off-season just isn't one of the fair criticisms.

Target some NFL starters at LB during FA. Maybe don't go after Nnamdi since you have two pro bowl caliber corners already, and instead lock up some talent in the middle of the field instead of relying on the rookie brother of a good player? Look I admit, hindsight is 20/20 and someone obviously graded out mathews incorrectly-they thought they were going to be okay there, they were wrong. Probably not very fair to rip them apart, but its Thursday afternoon and we're on a message board...

 

[shensoky]

We all knew coming in the biggest holes in this team were OL and LB. The front office made little to no effort to correct those issues and chose to attempt to just get by with rookies that would be very under prepared.

Anyone who expected a dream team performance was kidding themselves.

I'll be happy if we squeak out a win against the 49ers and get some semblance of order going before we travel up to Buffalo to probably be shredded by that offense. We've only given up what, a league leading 8 passing TDs so far? I love my Birds but Stevie Johnson will be getting me some f'n points on the 9th.

Ugh.

 

[jasvic]

Seemingly everyone on this site knew that while there would be a full season, there would be a shortened off-season. Surely the Eagles could have made some basic assumptions and game planned for it. Obviously they could have banked on there not being a full off season to get their rookies ready to start?

HOW do you game plan for it? They set themselves up for the FA free for all in 09 and 2010...not the spring. It was a good plan hamstrung by an off-season shortened a lot more than anyone could have reasonably predicted a year ago.Were they supposed to stand pat on the coaches? "It might be a shorter off-seasons than we thought, so we better not fire our Defensive coordinator!" When you take an honest look at when the moves were made, I'm not so sure that its remotely fair to assume that they could have done anything all that differant to account for a shortened off-season. Lots of things to criticize the Eagles over (what idiot thought these LB's were starter quality?), but blaming them for not accounting for the short off-season just isn't one of the fair criticisms.

To clarify what I meant, I applauded the coaching changes at the time and now (well, jury is still out on Castillo). But knowing the off-season would be shorter, and knowing you were making grand coaching changes, why rely so heavily on so many rookie/inexperienced players instead of getting a veteran or two who at least has NFL level and game speed experience. When I said I don't blame the players, it's because they were pretty much set up to fail. Rookies have a hard enough time adjusting with a full off-season.

 

[need2know]

Jeremy Maclin (hamstring) is confident that he will start against the 49ers after returning to the practice field on Thursday.

"I wouldn't do anything to jeopardize or hurt the team," said Maclin. "If it feels good like it does now and I feel like I can go, I can go." It sounds like Maclin is prepared to test the hamstring on Thursday. If he can make it through the next two days without a tweak, he should be good to go as a high-risk fantasy play against the Niners. Source: Philly Sports Daily

This is some great news. Things could change before now and kickoff but Maclin really helps our chances this week in a must win game. big difference between 2-2 and 1-3.

I know we are supposedly deep at WR, but avant/smith are a serious steps down from maclin imo. now if Vick can just play an entire game without injury....

 

[delusional]

bhahahahahahahahahahahahah

So who will be the new HC and DC?

Who will be drafting next year too because Howie & Andy FAILED the past 2 drafts

 

[Crusaderfan]

bhahahahahahahahahahahahahSo who will be the new HC and DC?Who will be drafting next year too because Howie & Andy FAILED the past 2 drafts

Hey - ease up!! I just saw Andy's press conference and he's going to get it fixed.