*** Official 2012-13 Hot Stove Thread (2 Viewers)

[dparker713]

Beltran and Dickey for Wheeler, D'Arnaud & Syndergaard.Most Mets fans like the return and want it made official ASAP.If Santana has a halfway decent 1st half he'll be traded next for prospects. Mets weren't going anywhere in 2013 with or without Dickey anyway.

It took 88 wins to get into the playoffs last year. The Mets won 74 with plenty of holes. Patch a few with ok players and say they're a 80 win true talent team. With a little sequencing luck they could certainly outperform expectations enough to be a playoff contender and make a deadline deal to further improve the team. This isn't the Astros roster and the second wild card dramatically lowers the barrier for the playoffs. Mets ownership wants to claim its not doing a full tear down - they are, they're just doing it in stages to mask the stink.

4.5 wins is heading off to Toronto. Even if you get 1-2 from D'Arnaud this year, recovering from injury, you still have a pretty big gap to cover to get to 80.Deal is apparently in place, Toronto now working on the extension with Dickey.

My point is they weren't in a position where a trade of Dickey was necessary, especially since they just locked up Wright. They either should have traded them both or kept them both. And if you keep trade both, eat salary on Santana and move him too. I ####### hate the Wilpons.

David Wright is 29. RA Dickey is 38. A 38 year-old knuckleballer, but 38 nonetheless. FWIW, I think they're doing a good job given the hand they're holding. They've only got a year left of Santana's albatross, but I don't think there's much to be done there. They'd have to eat most of the money if they traded him, or less if they included prospects. After that, Wright's the only guy left who's going to be making serious money, which gives them a lot of flexibility to start taking care of their own guys as they come up for arb.

The Wilpons are broke. They're not going to be spending money until they funnel money from the team to cover all their loses and pay back all their loans - its going to take years. In the meantime, the Mets will be running maybe 70 million payrolls. Remember this, their payroll last season was only 90 million and they still felt the need to defer a bunch of money from the Bay buyout and Wright's deal. The Wilpons are broke as ####.

 

[Mentos]

Beltran and Dickey for Wheeler, D'Arnaud & Syndergaard.Most Mets fans like the return and want it made official ASAP.If Santana has a halfway decent 1st half he'll be traded next for prospects. Mets weren't going anywhere in 2013 with or without Dickey anyway.

It took 88 wins to get into the playoffs last year. The Mets won 74 with plenty of holes. Patch a few with ok players and say they're a 80 win true talent team. With a little sequencing luck they could certainly outperform expectations enough to be a playoff contender and make a deadline deal to further improve the team. This isn't the Astros roster and the second wild card dramatically lowers the barrier for the playoffs. Mets ownership wants to claim its not doing a full tear down - they are, they're just doing it in stages to mask the stink.

4.5 wins is heading off to Toronto. Even if you get 1-2 from D'Arnaud this year, recovering from injury, you still have a pretty big gap to cover to get to 80.Deal is apparently in place, Toronto now working on the extension with Dickey.

My point is they weren't in a position where a trade of Dickey was necessary, especially since they just locked up Wright. They either should have traded them both or kept them both. And if you keep trade both, eat salary on Santana and move him too. I ####### hate the Wilpons.

David Wright is 29. RA Dickey is 38. A 38 year-old knuckleballer, but 38 nonetheless. FWIW, I think they're doing a good job given the hand they're holding. They've only got a year left of Santana's albatross, but I don't think there's much to be done there. They'd have to eat most of the money if they traded him, or less if they included prospects. After that, Wright's the only guy left who's going to be making serious money, which gives them a lot of flexibility to start taking care of their own guys as they come up for arb.

The Wilpons are broke. They're not going to be spending money until they funnel money from the team to cover all their loses and pay back all their loans - its going to take years. In the meantime, the Mets will be running maybe 70 million payrolls. Remember this, their payroll last season was only 90 million and they still felt the need to defer a bunch of money from the Bay buyout and Wright's deal. The Wilpons are broke as ####.

Alderson is looking to make the Mets be the Rays North in 2014 and beyond but first they will have to be the Royals East in 2013.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Beltran and Dickey for Wheeler, D'Arnaud & Syndergaard.Most Mets fans like the return and want it made official ASAP.If Santana has a halfway decent 1st half he'll be traded next for prospects. Mets weren't going anywhere in 2013 with or without Dickey anyway.

It took 88 wins to get into the playoffs last year. The Mets won 74 with plenty of holes. Patch a few with ok players and say they're a 80 win true talent team. With a little sequencing luck they could certainly outperform expectations enough to be a playoff contender and make a deadline deal to further improve the team. This isn't the Astros roster and the second wild card dramatically lowers the barrier for the playoffs. Mets ownership wants to claim its not doing a full tear down - they are, they're just doing it in stages to mask the stink.

4.5 wins is heading off to Toronto. Even if you get 1-2 from D'Arnaud this year, recovering from injury, you still have a pretty big gap to cover to get to 80.Deal is apparently in place, Toronto now working on the extension with Dickey.

My point is they weren't in a position where a trade of Dickey was necessary, especially since they just locked up Wright. They either should have traded them both or kept them both. And if you keep trade both, eat salary on Santana and move him too. I ####### hate the Wilpons.

David Wright is 29. RA Dickey is 38. A 38 year-old knuckleballer, but 38 nonetheless. FWIW, I think they're doing a good job given the hand they're holding. They've only got a year left of Santana's albatross, but I don't think there's much to be done there. They'd have to eat most of the money if they traded him, or less if they included prospects. After that, Wright's the only guy left who's going to be making serious money, which gives them a lot of flexibility to start taking care of their own guys as they come up for arb.

The Wilpons are broke. They're not going to be spending money until they funnel money from the team to cover all their loses and pay back all their loans - its going to take years. In the meantime, the Mets will be running maybe 70 million payrolls. Remember this, their payroll last season was only 90 million and they still felt the need to defer a bunch of money from the Bay buyout and Wright's deal. The Wilpons are broke as ####.

I would be ecstatic if the A's spent $70mm a year.Alderson's a sharp guy. New York is a massive market. It could be way worse.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Dana Eveland is signing with the Hanhwa Eagles.

 

[Eephus]

Dana Eveland is signing with the Hanhwa Eagles.

Hope he doesn't hurt himself with the pen

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it. They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down. Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

 

[Eephus]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

When the A's passed on his $10M option, I was sure Drew would get more than that, either in money or years. I guess it's hard to criticize the Sox for a short-term, market value contract at a need position. But their free agent signings aren't individually or collectively exciting.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

 

[Eephus]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

They had a ridiculously good bullpen that allowed them to go 20 games over .500 in one run ballgames.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

They had a +7 run differential and should have been a .500 team like Philly (+4).

 

[Brady Marino]

Dickey agrees to 2 year, $25 million extension with the Blue Jays.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Baltimore has the personnel to win the division in 2013.

Toronto looks great......on paper.

TB is underrated every year.

NY can win it even though they are really old.

Boston Sux!

 

[TobiasFunke]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

How about a win total over/under bet for the Orioles in 2013, Scrum? You take the over, I take the under. 88.5 wins work for you?

 

[=Smackdown=]

Dickey agrees to 2 year, $25 million extension with the Blue Jays.

::confetti::Now just a physical away.Please make this happen before someone changes their mind.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

How about a win total over/under bet for the Orioles in 2013, Scrum? You take the over, I take the under. 88.5 wins work for you?

Sounds luxurious.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

How about a win total over/under bet for the Orioles in 2013, Scrum? You take the over, I take the under. 88.5 wins work for you?

Sounds luxurious.

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

 

[Northern Voice]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

How about a win total over/under bet for the Orioles in 2013, Scrum? You take the over, I take the under. 88.5 wins work for you?

Sounds luxurious.

78.5 sounds more fair.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I like it. Jays window was only open as long as a) the Yankees, Sox and Rays are in down years and b) Bautista and EE are still in there primes. If they were a few years younger, the Jays could wait. Realistically, they have maybe 2-3 good years left. Time to go for it.

They had to get another starter. Drabek, Hutch still hurt and Romero ####ting the bed, doesn't leave much if anyone in the rotation goes down.

Price is high but a couple playoff berths will make it worth it.

I think it's pretty obvious Toronto decided to strike while the iron is hot....Yankmees and Red Sux not looking good. It was the right move.I disagree that it is a down year for TB though. I could see TB, Toronto, and Baltimore fighting for the division in 2013.

No chance.

Agreed. It was the perfect storm for Baltimore. Not happening again. They'll be battling for 4th with Boston.

Has someone informed Baltimore fans to make other plans for their summers in 2013?Sorry, I didn't realize Baltimore must have had an unusually high team WAR, BABIP, xFIP, etc in 2012.

How about a win total over/under bet for the Orioles in 2013, Scrum? You take the over, I take the under. 88.5 wins work for you?

Sounds luxurious.

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Dickey agrees to 2 year, $25 million extension with the Blue Jays.

How is Dickey basically getting what Dempster's getting.

 

[Northern Voice]

Dickey agrees to 2 year, $25 million extension with the Blue Jays.

How is Dickey basically getting what Dempster's getting.

@GrubersMullet $30M for the next 3 yrs of R.A. Dickey. Other 3yr FA contracts signed so far: J.Broxton 3yr/$21M; J.Guthrie 3yr/$25M; B.League 3yr/$22.5M

 

[TobiasFunke]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

I'm not gonna tell you that you're stupid if I'm right, but I will be happy to admit I am if I'm wrong Seriously, I think the team should have made some bigger moves this offseason. I see them as an 80-85 win team right now. With the AL East as weak as it's been in recent memory, now is the perfect time to act to get the fans back and build on the good will of the 2012 season, and there was plenty of help to be had at their positions of need. Maybe they still will. Although they do have some financial uncertainty, as it remains to be seen just how deeply and violently MLB will permit them to continue sodomizing the Nationals over TV rights.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

Why don't you guys wait until vegas comes out with the actual win total? Should be out by the end of January. I'm gonna guess the number is 83 or 84.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I think the O's will win exactly 86.4 games.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

Why don't you guys wait until vegas comes out with the actual win total? Should be out by the end of January. I'm gonna guess the number is 83 or 84.

I've been waiting to bet the Under on the 2013 Orioles since August.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

Why don't you guys wait until vegas comes out with the actual win total? Should be out by the end of January. I'm gonna guess the number is 83 or 84.

I've been waiting to bet the Under on the 2013 Orioles since August.

You ran into the wrong guy then. Should've waited for one who would be willing to put money on it.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

Why don't you guys wait until vegas comes out with the actual win total? Should be out by the end of January. I'm gonna guess the number is 83 or 84.

I've been waiting to bet the Under on the 2013 Orioles since August.

I think 83/84 might be high, maybe closer to 80. They have a lot of spare parts that work well together and if they can get one or more of those young pitchers to step up (Britton, Tillman, Bundy, etc), they'll b pretty decent because they can hit. Gotta think the bullpen regresses though, hard to repeat what that unit did last year.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?Lets make the O/U 85.

Why don't you guys wait until vegas comes out with the actual win total? Should be out by the end of January. I'm gonna guess the number is 83 or 84.

I've been waiting to bet the Under on the 2013 Orioles since August.

I think 83/84 might be high, maybe closer to 80. They have a lot of spare parts that work well together and if they can get one or more of those young pitchers to step up (Britton, Tillman, Bundy, etc), they'll b pretty decent because they can hit. Gotta think the bullpen regresses though, hard to repeat what that unit did last year.

Yup. I do think the run differential stuff is getting a lot of press lately though. Way more than it did a few years ago. Wouldn't surprise me if the books actually come in pretty low. The win total bets aren't the easy money they were in those magical years from 2006-2009 or so.

 

[Eephus]

Carlos Pena signs with Houston 1/$2.9M plus a possible $1.4M in incentives. He becomes the highest paid member of the team although the Astros are still paying $5M of Wandy Rodriguez' salary.

Seems kind of a pointless signing to me although Pena could be a decent fantasy sleeper

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Not sure what you mean by that? Too many wins? Too few?

Whatever you think is best.

I think it's best that we make a wager. Over/under 88.5 wins for the 2013 Orioles. You take the over, I take the under. You name the price ... up to $500. I'm a middle class guy with a wife and a child at home, so I can't let you take me for too much.

I've got a wife and 3 kids and won't make any type of monetary wager with you whatsoever. Sound good?

How about you just tell me how stupid I am and how knowledgable you are when they come up short?

Lets make the O/U 85.

You never go to the casino on Friday night? Or have any discretionary money that's yours to blow as you please?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

Dammit. Time for Diaz and/or Nakajima!Per Slusser, Boston's offer was "quite a bit more" than Oakland's and the A's are likely to explore trade options. But who is left? Lowrie? Not sure Houston would be eager to trade within the division. Cabrera? Can't think of anyone out there beside those two.

 

[Eephus]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

Dammit. Time for Diaz and/or Nakajima!Per Slusser, Boston's offer was "quite a bit more" than Oakland's and the A's are likely to explore trade options. But who is left? Lowrie? Not sure Houston would be eager to trade within the division. Cabrera? Can't think of anyone out there beside those two.

Jason Bartlett

 

[Please See Mine]

I can't believe that scrumptrulescent wanted to get rid of Eephus. If I have the choice of getting rid of scrumptrulescent or keeping Eephus AND contracting syphillis, I would probably lean toward the latter.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

Dammit. Time for Diaz and/or Nakajima!Per Slusser, Boston's offer was "quite a bit more" than Oakland's and the A's are likely to explore trade options. But who is left? Lowrie? Not sure Houston would be eager to trade within the division. Cabrera? Can't think of anyone out there beside those two.

Jason Bartlett

Meh. If they don't land Nakajima this is probably the type of player they'll acquire. They just need a short term option until Russell is ready. In which case I'd just as soon bring back Pennington and hope he flukes his way into a good year with the bat. Aledmis Diaz piques my interest. Guy probably isn't ready and probably isn't a great fit if they're serious about Russell taking over in the next couple seasons, but after the success of Cespedes I'm eager for more Cubans. In the bit I've read, he supposedly has good fielding and power potential. And you can never have too much talent.

 

[Eephus]

Stephen Drew to the Red Sox for 1 year/$9.5 million.

Dammit. Time for Diaz and/or Nakajima!Per Slusser, Boston's offer was "quite a bit more" than Oakland's and the A's are likely to explore trade options. But who is left? Lowrie? Not sure Houston would be eager to trade within the division. Cabrera? Can't think of anyone out there beside those two.

Jason Bartlett

Meh. If they don't land Nakajima this is probably the type of player they'll acquire. They just need a short term option until Russell is ready. In which case I'd just as soon bring back Pennington and hope he flukes his way into a good year with the bat. Aledmis Diaz piques my interest. Guy probably isn't ready and probably isn't a great fit if they're serious about Russell taking over in the next couple seasons, but after the success of Cespedes I'm eager for more Cubans. In the bit I've read, he supposedly has good fielding and power potential. And you can never have too much talent.

Aledmis Diaz isn't going to come cheaply. Under the new CBA, overage international free agents are one of the only types of players who don't count against the draft cap. If the organization likes Russell as much as they say, I can't see them committing long-term to another SS. Bartlett could probably be had for one year with maybe an option year. He's a local product who should get a dead cat bounce. Either that or he's done.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Maybe Yoenis can play short?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Maybe Yoenis can play short?

He played shortstop a few times in warmups last year. A's players heaped tons of praise on his range and arm. I say go for it. Should give Hollywood some material for Moneyball 2. Nice to see Boston really handing out the big money for mediocre players this year.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Maybe Yoenis can play short?

Dudes a beast, cat-like beast at that. I think you could stick him there in a pinch and he'd do ok.

 

[Frostillicus]

I was actually just tooling around the internet looking up the Orioles because I realized they haven't really done anything and it didn't make any sense to me. Then I was going to come in here to ask if anybody had any good ideas why the O's weren't do anything, and how if they didn't end up making any moves they'd be a great UNDER bet on season wins. No joke.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I was actually just tooling around the internet looking up the Orioles because I realized they haven't really done anything and it didn't make any sense to me. Then I was going to come in here to ask if anybody had any good ideas why the O's weren't do anything, and how if they didn't end up making any moves they'd be a great UNDER bet on season wins. No joke.

Just eyeballing their team, I'd guess they win 73 next year.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Maybe Yoenis can play short?

He played shortstop a few times in warmups last year. A's players heaped tons of praise on his range and arm. I say go for it. Should give Hollywood some material for Moneyball 2. Nice to see Boston really handing out the big money for mediocre players this year.

I was completely joking, but he played SS from ages 10 to 16. Getting another OF bat in there might be worth the occasional flub. At worst, his defensive metrics wouldn't be as bad as Jeter's, right?http://blog.sfgate.com/athletics/2012/08/07/look-whos-at-shortstop-its-yoenis-cespedes/

 

[Limp Ditka]

I can't believe that scrumptrulescent wanted to get rid of Eephus. If I have the choice of getting rid of scrumptrulescent or keeping Eephus AND contracting syphillis, I would probably lean toward the latter.

This

 

[Northern Voice]

I was actually just tooling around the internet looking up the Orioles because I realized they haven't really done anything and it didn't make any sense to me. Then I was going to come in here to ask if anybody had any good ideas why the O's weren't do anything, and how if they didn't end up making any moves they'd be a great UNDER bet on season wins. No joke.

Just eyeballing their team, I'd guess they win 73 next year.

I don't hate their roster, but they really need some starting pitchers to breakthrough/step up to have any chance.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I was actually just tooling around the internet looking up the Orioles because I realized they haven't really done anything and it didn't make any sense to me. Then I was going to come in here to ask if anybody had any good ideas why the O's weren't do anything, and how if they didn't end up making any moves they'd be a great UNDER bet on season wins. No joke.

Just eyeballing their team, I'd guess they win 73 next year.

What's weird is that there's so many ways for them to upgrade because they have potential openings at the traditional spots for offensive production- 1B, LF, DH. They have Chris Davis locked into one of those three spots I guess, but that's about it. They could even move Machado and Hardy over a spot each and free up 3B too. But all they've done so far is get McLouth on a cheap, low risk deal. They also have room for upgrades in the rotation. Lotta ways they can get better without having to worry about positions or blocking someone- just go out and get a guy they like for the price and he's likely to fit somewhere.

 

[Northern Voice]

Dickey's extension with Toronto reportedly includes a $12 million option for 2016.