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*** Official 2012-13 Hot Stove Thread (1 Viewer)

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As for Bonilla, it's even more wacky due to the length of the deal. Despite having not played baseball in the majors since 2001 and not for the Mets since he was a card-playing fool in the 1999 NLCS, Bonilla is on the Mets' payroll for quite a while.

Each July 1 from 2011 through 2035, the Mets are paying Bonilla almost $1.2 million. Yes, that's an annual salary.

But hey, Bonilla did rack up a whopping 7.4 WAR (baseball-reference.com version) in 515 games for the Mets, so he was surely worth every penny.

 
Cubs trade SB Machine Tony Campana to the D-Backs for two Venezuelan pitchers who can't even buy beer in Canada. Seems like a decent move for Chicago, given that Campana was recently DFA.Can't find much on either, but Law refers to both as lottery tickets and not org. filler, but that both are "a zillion years away."

 
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Cubs trade SB Machine Tony Campana to the D-Backs for two Venezuelan pitchers who can't even buy beer in Canada. Seems like a decent move for Chicago, given that Campana was recently DFA.Can't find much on either, but Law refers to both as lottery tickets and not org. filler, but that both are "a zillion years away."
Campana has that "grit" Gibson is looking for. :thumbup:
 
from the Chicago Tribune

the Cubs receive a pair of 17-year-old right-handers, Erick Leal and Jesus Castillo.General manager Jed Hoyer said Leal is likely to pitch in the minors this year, while Castillo probably will pitch in the Dominican.“Both of them we like a lot,” Hoyer said. “Both of them are projectable (as future major leaguers). We did a lot of work with our scouts down in the D.R. and we feel very good about getting two projectable arms for Tony.”...Leal went 6-2 with a 2.44 earned-run average last year in 14 appearances in the Dominican Summer League, while Castillo was 2-4 with a 5.40 ERA in 14 appearances.
 
Cubs trade SB Machine Tony Campana to the D-Backs for two Venezuelan pitchers who can't even buy beer in Canada. Seems like a decent move for Chicago, given that Campana was recently DFA.Can't find much on either, but Law refers to both as lottery tickets and not org. filler, but that both are "a zillion years away."
Campana has that "grit" Gibson is looking for. :thumbup:
White, short, can't hit. Sign him up!
 
All 233 players who were eligible for arbitration are signed, demonstrating how the market has settled and how teams are sick of getting burned in arbitration. To me this is a good sign that the game and the system is healthy.

 
Since when do minor leaguers stay in the dominican to play instead of a minor league affiliate?
It's up to the franchise, maybe they think the guy will have better competition in a DR league as opposed to low A ball or something. Not sure who you are talking about but are you also sure he has a clean visa? Been a huge issue with DR guys lately.
 
It's always a bit of a thrill to see the big league ball players out in our little town during spring training.Yes, look at me, Justin Verlander drinks the same overpriced Starbucks coffee I do.

 
Since when do minor leaguers stay in the dominican to play instead of a minor league affiliate?
When they are signed in the Dominican to play in the DSL and work on being able to get called up to either a rookie league or instructional league in the fall or minor league camp the next spring.
 
Htf does berkman get ten mil?
You miss 2011? He can still hit, just gotta keep his knees healthy.
You miss 2012? The guy is old and injury prone
:goodposting: https://mobile.twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/304264736307023872
A mild calf strain in February and you're patting yourself on the back? Really?
imagine when they really start playing ;)
 
Im stunned the Cards havent just re-signed Lohse
Cards can be stingy sometimes. Not sure why he's not back, he was well-liked in the clubhouse and there's a need.
If I were guessing, they're still leveraging Boras. They hold all the cards in the negotiation at this point, just a matter of time until Boras meets their demands on a one-year deal.ETA: Either that, or they really believe in Miller getting a shot. In which case, there really isn't room for Lohse because of the money they committed to Westbrook this season thinking bringing him back wasn't feasible.
 
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Im stunned the Cards havent just re-signed Lohse
Cards can be stingy sometimes. Not sure why he's not back, he was well-liked in the clubhouse and there's a need.
If I were guessing, they're still leveraging Boras. They hold all the cards in the negotiation at this point, just a matter of time until Boras meets their demands on a one-year deal.ETA: Either that, or they really believe in Miller getting a shot. In which case, there really isn't room for Lohse because of the money they committed to Westbrook this season thinking bringing him back wasn't feasible.
Rotation at this point looks something like:WainoGarciaLynnKellyMiller/Rosenthal/WestbrookGarcia has shoulder issues, Lynn may not have the stamina to be a starter for a full-season, I'm a seller on Kelly (he's due for a correction this year), and the other options are either unproven or are overpaid meh (Westbrook). Put Lohse in there and Cards fans breathe a little easier.
 
Im stunned the Cards havent just re-signed Lohse
Cards can be stingy sometimes. Not sure why he's not back, he was well-liked in the clubhouse and there's a need.
If I were guessing, they're still leveraging Boras. They hold all the cards in the negotiation at this point, just a matter of time until Boras meets their demands on a one-year deal.ETA: Either that, or they really believe in Miller getting a shot. In which case, there really isn't room for Lohse because of the money they committed to Westbrook this season thinking bringing him back wasn't feasible.
Rotation at this point looks something like:WainoGarciaLynnKellyMiller/Rosenthal/WestbrookGarcia has shoulder issues, Lynn may not have the stamina to be a starter for a full-season, I'm a seller on Kelly (he's due for a correction this year), and the other options are either unproven or are overpaid meh (Westbrook). Put Lohse in there and Cards fans breathe a little easier.
Westbrook is your #4 unless you've read something to the contrary that I haven't seen. They didn't extend him for $8.75 mil at the end of last season to compete for the fifth spot. (I hate it, but that's the reality)I don't see them blocking the path for one of Miller, Kelly, or Rosenthal to assume a starting role this year. All the Carpenter injury really did was ensure that Lynn would be a starter this season (there was some talk about him staying in the pen before that). I'm not all that worried about him tiring out this season, as he's come to camp in much better shape (40 pounds lighter).Garcia's shoulder is the real wildcard here, and only the Cards know the real prognosis. If it isn't good, Lohse becomes a must have. If he's fine, I can see where they are rationalizing going with Waino/Garcia/Lynn/Westbrook/Miller with Kelly and Rosenthal as plan B and plan C along the way. There is enough bullpen depth with Motte/Boggs/Mujica/Salas/Sanchez (Choate/Rzep as LHP) to get away with that in a bind.
 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.

 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
Draft pick + Boras contract demands.
 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
could Cleveland sign him and only give up their 4th round pick?
 
Is having to give up a draft pick, sometimes very high, a new development when signing FA's? Don't recall hearing about it so much in past offseasons.

 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
The indians gave up 1st and 2nd rd picks for swisher and bourne and bourne was a boras client too. Lohse isnt exactly a bad player
 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
The indians gave up 1st and 2nd rd picks for swisher and bourne and bourne was a boras client too. Lohse isnt exactly a bad player
He's a 34 year old pitcher asking for 15 mil per for four seasons on top of costing a 1st rounder.Cards offered a 1 yr, 13.5 mil deal to come back recently and he turned it down per Ken Rosenthal on MLB Network today.
 
I guess I'm just stupefied on why Lohse hasn't latched on elsewhere. All u ever here is teams need pitching, now and at the deadline. And we see all the ridiculous contracts. He must really want to stay in Stl. There really is no reason a pitcher like that should not be in a camp already. He's not a minor league contract invite type player.
Draft pick.
The indians gave up 1st and 2nd rd picks for swisher and bourne and bourne was a boras client too. Lohse isnt exactly a bad player
This is incorrect. They do not have to give up their 1st because it is top 10 protected. I believe it defaults to a 2nd for Swisher and a sandwich 2nd/3rd to get Bourn.As someone else mentioned, giving up a sandwich 3rd/4th for a pitcher like Lohse seems like a no brainer, if that's how it continues down the draft. That's sort of where I was going with the Indians, and also other teams that are top 10 protected. But then somebody said he's looking for 4/60 and now I completely understand why he is sitting on his couch.
 
Lohse would make Indians favorites in the AL CentralBleacher Report is among the worst sources for information on the internet. Lohse has a career 4.45 ERA, 1.37 WHIP and tends to have issues with the long ball. He's also 34 and will be 35 this year.Go ahead and sign him to a three year deal Cleveland, I beg you even.
He's logged 400 very good IP over the past two years. He's a much better pitcher now than the kid who came up with the Twins.
 
Lohse would make Indians favorites in the AL CentralBleacher Report is among the worst sources for information on the internet. Lohse has a career 4.45 ERA, 1.37 WHIP and tends to have issues with the long ball. He's also 34 and will be 35 this year.Go ahead and sign him to a three year deal Cleveland, I beg you even.
He's logged 400 very good IP over the past two years. He's a much better pitcher now than the kid who came up with the Twins.
Yeah, but he's still 34 and his asking price is fairly high. If he'll agree to a one or two year deal, then he's a decent asset to pick up. Three years is pushing it. 4 is just a no go. And sure, everyone can always use more pitching, but at this point in the season everyone has their projected rotations filled. Sounds like he might need to wait for a significant injury to occur before he'll be signed.
 
Lohse would make Indians favorites in the AL CentralBleacher Report is among the worst sources for information on the internet. Lohse has a career 4.45 ERA, 1.37 WHIP and tends to have issues with the long ball. He's also 34 and will be 35 this year.Go ahead and sign him to a three year deal Cleveland, I beg you even.
Won't happen, they're already over budget, not going to go any further. Doing so will put them at risk of not re-upping others nearing free agency. I think someone else in the top 10 with a protected pick will blink if Lohse lowers his contract demands by a year or 2 though - include performance escalators that exercise options.
 
My linkAs for Bonilla, it's even more wacky due to the length of the deal. Despite having not played baseball in the majors since 2001 and not for the Mets since he was a card-playing fool in the 1999 NLCS, Bonilla is on the Mets' payroll for quite a while.Each July 1 from 2011 through 2035, the Mets are paying Bonilla almost $1.2 million. Yes, that's an annual salary.But hey, Bonilla did rack up a whopping 7.4 WAR (baseball-reference.com version) in 515 games for the Mets, so he was surely worth every penny.
Ironically, the Cubs would gladly take him straight up for Soriano
 
New York Yankees superstar Alex Rodriguez gave away only 1 per cent of proceeds raised in the first year of his non-profit charity, the A-Rod Family Foundation, the Boston Globe reports. According to the report, Rodriguez raised $403,862 in 2006, but donated only $5,090 to its charitable causes.

The published report says that the foundation operated by Rodriguez donated $5,000 to the Jay-Z’s Shawn Carter Scholarship Fund and $90 to a Little League baseball club in Miami.

A year later, in 2007, the Internal Revenue Service stripped the A-Rod Family Foundation of its tax-exempt status after it failed to submit the proper paperwork, according to the report.

Boston reporter Callum Borchers noted in the story that non-profit experts recommend that foundations devote 65 to 75 per cent of every dollar directly to the stated mission. The Rodriguez information came to light as part of a Globe review of more than 150 IRS filings by 50 non-profit operated by professional athletes.

The report found that many highly paid athletes fail to meet the threshold of donating up to 75 per cent of every dollar directly to its mission. The Globe found that among the 50 non-profit examined, nearly half spent less than 65 per cent of revenues on charitable programs and donations.

Former Boston Red Sox pitcher Josh Beckett, who now plays for the Los Angeles Dodgers, also fell short, according to the author. At first glance, his generosity through his Josh Beckett Foundation seems outstanding. His annual Beckett Bowl celebrity bowling tournament typically generated about $100,000 for Boston Children’s Hospital, the Boston Globe reported.

However, a closer inspection reveals that just 37 cents of every dollar raised by his foundation went toward the foundation’s mission of improving the health and well-being of children.

“Athletes’ charities are subject to many pitfalls because most of them are not trained in how to raise and distribute money, and it’s difficult,” Greg Johnson, executive director of the Sports Philanthropy Project in Boston, told the Boston Globe.

“A lot of them get into expensive golf tournaments and that kind of crap. They can be self-serving as hell.”
What a nozzle.
 

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