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*** Official 2012 Boston Red Sox Thread *** (1 Viewer)

If Dustin Pedroia is such a team player, then why does he keep having babies in the middle of the season? :confused:

 
Nice effort by Valentine, sitting Ellsbury and Pedroia for game one vs. the Yankees after playing them all weekend vs. Orioles. I swear it's like he's trying to screw the Orioles over as payback for last year

 
Nice effort by Valentine, sitting Ellsbury and Pedroia for game one vs. the Yankees after playing them all weekend vs. Orioles. I swear it's like he's trying to screw the Orioles over as payback for last year
Bosox are a quality 9-24 (.273) since the trade with the Dodgers.
 
Thank god the O's got the Sox at the end as well. What a bunch of dogs on that team. Quitters all of them.

 
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Red Sox intend to fire Bobby Valentine when the season ends.

The move will be made on either Thursday or Friday, says Heyman's source. Valentine failed miserably in his first season as Red Sox skipper, going 7-21 so far in September and 69-92 overall while regularly stirring up drama inside the Boston clubhouse. The Red Sox are thought to have their eyes on current Blue Jays manager John Farrell as a potential replacement.

 
Can you idiots win one ####### game for the rest of us tonight? If you do so I won't liter this thread with :hophead: when you try to bring in Albert Belle(not to manage, to play).

TIA.

 
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Red Sox intend to fire Bobby Valentine when the season ends.The move will be made on either Thursday or Friday, says Heyman's source. Valentine failed miserably in his first season as Red Sox skipper, going 7-21 so far in September and 69-92 overall while regularly stirring up drama inside the Boston clubhouse. The Red Sox are thought to have their eyes on current Blue Jays manager John Farrell as a potential replacement.
damn
 
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Red Sox intend to fire Bobby Valentine when the season ends.

The move will be made on either Thursday or Friday, says Heyman's source. Valentine failed miserably in his first season as Red Sox skipper, going 7-21 so far in September and 69-92 overall while regularly stirring up drama inside the Boston clubhouse. The Red Sox are thought to have their eyes on current Blue Jays manager John Farrell as a potential replacement.
This guy's available
 
Even the Astros laugh at this :tfp: Perhaps the most pathetic display of ineptitude and indifference I've seen in baseball.
Why even play? I suffered through numerous 70-92 seasons as a fan and I can never remember a team of mine laying down like this, including the 2003 Tigers who lost 119 games. :thumbdown:
 
Even the Astros laugh at this :tfp: Perhaps the most pathetic display of ineptitude and indifference I've seen in baseball.
Why even play? I suffered through numerous 70-92 seasons as a fan and I can never remember a team of mine laying down like this, including the 2003 Tigers who lost 119 games. :thumbdown:
The Maroth/Bonderman drive for two 20 game losers on the same team was spellbinding
They were playing for "something."
 
Just read that Papi wants 25-30 million on a two year deal and the Rex Sox are going to give it to him. This is very puzzling. Lets face it who exactly in the AL would sign Papi to that kind of deal at 37? None of the big spenders need him.

 
YOu know it's been a rough year when the Red Sox Nation propgram sends out a form letter to members. Nothing says "sorry for the ####ty product this year" like a sticker and a Johnny Pesky baseball card. :lmao:

 
YOu know it's been a rough year when the Red Sox Nation propgram sends out a form letter to members. Nothing says "sorry for the ####ty product this year" like a sticker and a Johnny Pesky baseball card. :lmao:
That reminds me of the current group of jerkoffs on this team who didn't attend his funeral. Big Papi, Buccholz, Salty, and Padilla were the only 4 players to show. Iirc Pedroia's wife had some health problems. But the rest of the clowns? :thumbdown:
 
Just read that Papi wants 25-30 million on a two year deal and the Rex Sox are going to give it to him. This is very puzzling. Lets face it who exactly in the AL would sign Papi to that kind of deal at 37? None of the big spenders need him.
I think they basically need to give Ortiz whatever he asks for right now. Letting him get away would be a complete PR disaster.
 
Just read that Papi wants 25-30 million on a two year deal and the Rex Sox are going to give it to him. This is very puzzling. Lets face it who exactly in the AL would sign Papi to that kind of deal at 37? None of the big spenders need him.
I think they basically need to give Ortiz whatever he asks for right now. Letting him get away would be a complete PR disaster.
How much worse could it possibly be than what it is now?
 
'scoobus said:
'Borat said:
Just read that Papi wants 25-30 million on a two year deal and the Rex Sox are going to give it to him. This is very puzzling. Lets face it who exactly in the AL would sign Papi to that kind of deal at 37? None of the big spenders need him.
I think they basically need to give Ortiz whatever he asks for right now. Letting him get away would be a complete PR disaster.
How much worse could it possibly be than what it is now?
I know what you're saying and I don't disagree with you altogether, but it would be a pretty devastating blow to a pretty sentimental fanbase.
 
Mike Napoli 3 years 39 million

:wall: :wall: :wall:

I don't know what to say. It seems like the Sox are gearing up for one last run, but they don't have enough talent for one last run. I liked the Johnny Gomes signing because he has good platoon splits, it is a 2 year deal, and he is a great clubhouse guy (it cannot be overstated how important that is for this team of whining babies).

But Napoli? He has one career year, and is constantly hurt. I just don't understand it. The Sox should be sellers, not buyers. They simply do not have enough pitching. Not even close to enough pitching.

Not happy right now.

Take that money and spend it on the draft/international free agents. Trade Lester. Trade Ellsbury. Change the clubhouse culture. Give young talent the opportunity to play and identify long term answers.

Napoli was a horrible signing for this team.

 
Mike Napoli 3 years 39 million :wall: :wall: :wall: I don't know what to say. It seems like the Sox are gearing up for one last run, but they don't have enough talent for one last run. I liked the Johnny Gomes signing because he has good platoon splits, it is a 2 year deal, and he is a great clubhouse guy (it cannot be overstated how important that is for this team of whining babies).But Napoli? He has one career year, and is constantly hurt. I just don't understand it. The Sox should be sellers, not buyers. They simply do not have enough pitching. Not even close to enough pitching.Not happy right now.Take that money and spend it on the draft/international free agents. Trade Lester. Trade Ellsbury. Change the clubhouse culture. Give young talent the opportunity to play and identify long term answers.Napoli was a horrible signing for this team.
The new draft budgets make it hard to plow money into amateur free agents. The Sox can invest in international scouting and development but they're limited as to how much they can spend on signing. 16 & 17 year olds are a crapshoot with a long-term and uncertain payback. Boston can't turn themselves into Tampa Bay overnight. They're going to have to rebuild on the fly.Napoli fills a need and isn't a big overpay in years. Even if he collapses, it won't be as bad as Crawford, Lackey or Matsuzaka
 
Mike Napoli 3 years 39 million :wall: :wall: :wall: I don't know what to say. It seems like the Sox are gearing up for one last run, but they don't have enough talent for one last run. I liked the Johnny Gomes signing because he has good platoon splits, it is a 2 year deal, and he is a great clubhouse guy (it cannot be overstated how important that is for this team of whining babies).But Napoli? He has one career year, and is constantly hurt. I just don't understand it. The Sox should be sellers, not buyers. They simply do not have enough pitching. Not even close to enough pitching.Not happy right now.Take that money and spend it on the draft/international free agents. Trade Lester. Trade Ellsbury. Change the clubhouse culture. Give young talent the opportunity to play and identify long term answers.Napoli was a horrible signing for this team.
The new draft budgets make it hard to plow money into amateur free agents. The Sox can invest in international scouting and development but they're limited as to how much they can spend on signing. 16 & 17 year olds are a crapshoot with a long-term and uncertain payback. Boston can't turn themselves into Tampa Bay overnight. They're going to have to rebuild on the fly.Napoli fills a need and isn't a big overpay in years. Even if he collapses, it won't be as bad as Crawford, Lackey or Matsuzaka
Rebuilding on the fly doesn't bother me. Heck, throwing large sums of money at a free agent doesn't bother me. However, I want those free agents to be young, and preferably durable. I agree, the length of Napoli's contract doesn't make me immediately want to jump off a cliff, but this team needs to go in another direction. Trade a guy like Ellsbury for prospects, rebuild the farm. So when Mike Stanton (for example) demands a trade from Miami, Boston will have the pieces to go and get him. THis team is not going to win anything as constructed. They need pitching. And lots of it. Starters and Relievers.
 
Mike Napoli 3 years 39 million :wall: :wall: :wall: I don't know what to say. It seems like the Sox are gearing up for one last run, but they don't have enough talent for one last run. I liked the Johnny Gomes signing because he has good platoon splits, it is a 2 year deal, and he is a great clubhouse guy (it cannot be overstated how important that is for this team of whining babies).But Napoli? He has one career year, and is constantly hurt. I just don't understand it. The Sox should be sellers, not buyers. They simply do not have enough pitching. Not even close to enough pitching.Not happy right now.Take that money and spend it on the draft/international free agents. Trade Lester. Trade Ellsbury. Change the clubhouse culture. Give young talent the opportunity to play and identify long term answers.Napoli was a horrible signing for this team.
Good signing Imo. Guys got huge power and hes hit the cover off at fenway. We need that power in the middle of the lineup. 39 million is reasonable for a guy with his kind of power. 400 at bats hes knocking out 25-30 homeruns.
 
Most of Napoli's HRs are moon shots... not line drives.

The Monster hurts a lot of power hitters, but it should help him. He'll get a bunch of cheapies.

 
Sounds like Victorino signed for the same deal as Napoli . . . 3 years and $39 million. May be a precursor of an Ellsbury trade.

 
Sounds like Victorino signed for the same deal as Napoli . . . 3 years and $39 million. May be a precursor of an Ellsbury trade.
With the way management is going, I can see Ellsbury for Dickey.What is management going to do about the pitching situation. It was horrid last year.
 
Sounds like Victorino signed for the same deal as Napoli . . . 3 years and $39 million. May be a precursor of an Ellsbury trade.
With the way management is going, I can see Ellsbury for Dickey.What is management going to do about the pitching situation. It was horrid last year.
No way they trade Ellsbury for Dickey. That seems like an awful move
Agreed. Even better, myopic Mets fans have been calling WFAN for a week begging for the Mets to trade Dickey for Wil Myers. Amazing what folks think teams will give up for a 38-year-old pitcher who was nine games under .500 for his career prior to 2012.
 
Reportedly offered Ellsbury to the Phillies for Cliff Lee and were rejected.
Interesting. I am assuming this is before the Phils traded for Revere.Makes sense to turn it down for Philadelphia, though. Lee's stats, except for wins, were fine, and they should be in contention for the wildcard.
 
Jesus, Napoli's hip must be a ####### disaster.Looks like that 3 year, 39 million deal has been reduced to a 1 year, with only 5 million guaranteed (incentives could bring it up to 13 million).

According to another major league source, the deal is for one year with Napoli getting a $5 million guarantee. The deal includes incentives that could increase the value of the contract back to roughly $13 million if Napoli does not spend any time on the disabled list due to a hip injury. The contract is strictly a one-year deal — it does not include any team, vesting or mutual options.
 
:lmao: :lmao:

This thread is full of awesome. These guys go from completely indifferent to baseball to megafans. Now half the ALCS thread is icon posting from his cell phone and updating us on who he sees at the airport. 8 posts in the 2012 thread, 8 posts in the ALCS thread in the last hour!

:lmao:

I'm not sure why I always give Moops ####, he and Da Raiders are the only guys around here that still seemed to follow their team in rough seas. :thumbup:

 

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