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Yes, his fumbling is a problem. But, as much as I respect Keim, I don't see how he can think Moss' presence in that formation would open up lanes. Moss lacks yac ability at this point in his career. He doesn't scare anyone in the open field. If Robinson had a resume of plays in the open field, then I could form an opinion about him in the same role. But, he hasn't shown me enough to know either way.
Yeah, I'm not sure if Keim is being as critical of Banks' abilities as he is of Banks' usage. In that Studs and Duds link he goes on to mention the benefits of having Banks in the triple option:
I agree that a guy with a history of ball protection issues shouldn't have the ball in his hands when you're trying to protect a lead. But the fact of the matter is that a guy with his history of busting big plays because of his speed is an asset when he's on the field. IMO, that makes his value to the team significantly more than "next-to-nothing". I think that would be Keim's stance as well.
*goes to nfl.com to watch the play again for the 50th time*
Pretty unbelievable.
Haslett really needs to go.ETA: They desperately need CB and Saftey help.
I don't think you have too many "moral victory" types on here, there are a ton of Skins fans right now that are super pumped up for RG3. That's a new feeling for Redskin fans, having a top QB is a new feeling and pretty much everyone is stoked.
What's bad about the WR's other than a couple of missed opportunities? Our best one isn't even playing yet.
Cooley is done. Anyone else sick of Morgan catching passes and then running 5 yards backwards only to struggle to try to reach the original yard line that he caught the ball at? Can someone please tell him that he is not one of those WR's that can do this and turn it into positive yardage?
RG3 is making them look better than they are. That deep throw to Hankerson was on the money. Those are the type of plays that win games and he couldn't come up with it. Moss is an ok WR3. Garcon isn't playing, so I did not consider his performance recently. Morgan catches a ball and then runs backwards 5 yards only to lose yardage or struggle to get back to where he was. Take a look at the other WR's around the league. You are looking through burgundy and gold glasses if you think this WR core isn't in the bottom tier in the league right now.
It's a little bit better than last year (which isn't saying much). They still lack a true playmaker at WR which I was hoping Garcon would be. I've really liked watching Hankerson get better, he's a fine WR2, I couldn't agree more with you on Morgan though.
I agree with you for the most part, but I've been slightly disappointed by Hankerson this year. Maybe my expectations were a little to high. He needs to catch deep balls like he missed today. That should be where he excels. Sometimes it looks like he's running in quicksand. I know he was never a speedster, but he does lack burst and is awfully easy to bring down for a big guy. I do like what Garcon did in 10 snaps pre injury, but I am not holding my breath for this year. I honestly hope they keep him out through the bye.
to be fair, he sorta did this succesfully on the TD pass that was called back because of that bullsht leg whip call.
hiive been beaten down since 1991i'm not too bummed out that my team was ahead of the defending champions in their home until minute 59.and ran the ball down their throat to the tune of 200-50in fact, this is top 5 most hopeful squad since '91 ('99, '05, '07...
this.also,i think part of hazelett's issue is he actually looks stoopid and clueless on the sideline shots.yes, im serious. this perception then sorta takes over for the fans at every chance reality allows.everyone calling for Haslett's head should realize the injuries to the Dtoday, in a game most saw as being a game in the 30's, nyg had 20 at min 59better things lie ahead
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=664076jus in case u didnt notice the threadskins reach out to cooley.this.also,i think part of hazelett's issue is he actually looks stoopid and clueless on the sideline shots.yes, im serious. this perception then sorta takes over for the fans at every chance reality allows.everyone calling for Haslett's head should realize the injuries to the Dtoday, in a game most saw as being a game in the 30's, nyg had 20 at min 59better things lie ahead
honestly he either lost track of the ball or he should have dove for it.. im thinking he lost track of it
One small mitigating factor is that the Skins have the best downfield blocking WRs in the NFL. And that's been a big part of the read option game. It's hard to evaluate the playmaking ability because the route tree is still pretty basic. Mostly just slants and ins off the play action read. I keep expecting defenses to be able to take that away, but it hasn't happened yet. Admittedly, the difference between Hankerson trying to get vertical and Cruz doing so effortlessly at the end of the game was pretty striking.
There are levels of WR-corp quality between "Super Bowl here we come" and "bad".
This is a really good point. This is still a Mike Shanahan team, and while he's done well, IMO, to tailor the playbook to Griffin's abilities and to incorporate Kyle's aggressive passing tendencies, the offense is still going to hinge on the running game. After every game, I'm reading about key down field blocks that opened up running lanes, extended runs and/or sprung ball carriers for TDs. The blocking abilities of the WRs is crucial, as is the improvement of Logan Paulsen. It was a little unnerving to me that they originally kept him over Cooley, and I chalked it up to a money decision (it still may have been), but Paulsen is definitely a better player than in the past.
Cooley back with the team.[QUOTE='John Keim]yes, as expected, Cooley is back, confirmed via text #redskins
I agree, and there are different levels of "bad". They are not Jacksonville Jaguars bad, but they are in the bottom 5-6 in the league and certainly have the worst WR's in the division. I think RG3 is making these guys look good. Heck, even Logan Paulsen looked pretty good yesterday. On a brighter note, the oline has been a pleasant surprise this season. Again, part of that is probably do to Griffin, but they are not a total liability. Chris Chester has been good and Trent Williams has been very good.
The run blocking has been good. In the first half, the announcers where noting the huge running lanes. The pass blocking is not nearly as good, but it is much improved compared to last year. Note that when the Redskins signed Chris Chester, he was known as a decent run blocker, but not so much as a pass blocker. Mike Shanahan definately puts an emphasis on run blocking. Also, the past two years, there has been an emphasis on chemistry and continuity, rather than upgrading the talent of the line. Although many people here complained about OL neglect, it looks like it is coming together like Mike Shanahan envisioned. Granted, having a mobile QB like RGIII helps immensely.
Me either. I am bummed that once again, they gave up an easy, ridiculous long TD. Same as it ever was. Sorry, but this is just totally unacceptable for an NFL defense.
Yea, hopeful again. How many time you said that since 91? How many times has it turned in to anything? What can I say, cellar four straight years. Looks like they may be on the way to making it five. Seen it all before. Once again, same ####, different day.p.s. Yes, I realize I have a negative attitude. I think it's earned. Tired of "potential." Want freaking RESULTS.
What exactly do you want people in this thread to do about it?You're entitled to your negativity. We're entitled to point out that losing on the road to the defending SB champion in the final minute is not the same as losing to the Panthers by 13 (their Week 7 result last year). Do you want us to ignore the obvious differences, or the obvious fact that we finally have a franchise QB and hes better than advertised thus far, just because that's "loser talk"? We don't play for the team; nothing we talk about makes them more or less likely to lose.
Honestly? It's just venting. Still totally in shock that they let this kind of thing happen AGAIN though. In actuality, I do find it inconceivable that this thing seems to happen year after year. Just total breakdowns, unbelievably boneheaded errors that cost games that have no business being lost. I just can't find solace in the fact that this year, we have a better QB on the field when it happens. It's the kind of loss on the kind of play that other teams just don't let happen. For the skins, it's just "business as usual." I just can't find any positives in that.'TobiasFunke said:
this team is nothing like the teams of the yrs ref. above.cant believe how anyone wuldnt see that.those teams were old and were at or near peak.this team of today is going nowhere but up.nothing like those teams.if u cant see that, ur jaded beyond hope.try an upper maybe.'TxBuckeye said:
I understand that people love Cooley as a person but as a player he hasn't done anything meaningful in at least 2 years. And there was nothing after getting released to act like he was serious about being a vital cog on a team. As I have said before, I liked Cooley a lot more when he cared more about being a top 10 tight end and less of a local celebrity working on a resume for his future after the NFL.
I hear you, but it's not really business as usual. We're 3-4 with four road games out of the way and have 201 points scored and 200 allowed. That projects out to 8-8, which would be their best record since 2008- yes, I know that's sad, but that's where this franchise has been. Not one team has soundly beat the Redskins, which is another change from previous season. When you consider the usual learning curve for rookie QBs, and that injuries that have kept our best WR and our best pass rusher off the field basically all season, and that we're operating under a substantial salary cap limitation thanks to that ridiculous $25 million penalty imposed by Mara and friends for not breaking any rules, I think it's reasonable to have a little optimism and to feel like maybe things are moving in the right direction.'TxBuckeye said:
Did you hear that somewhere?
Cooley is not a TE1. That is pretty simple.The Redskins have been using all 3 of their TEs a lot lately, especially in the option packages having 1 or 2 TEs in the backfield. So the Redskins need to sign someone who can get up to speed pretty quickly. Cooley knows a lot of the offense and they should be able to work him in pretty quickly.I expect Paulsen to be the starter and Cooley and Paul to be in on a number of plays.my question is.. why are they trying so hard to bring cooley back when they cut him in the first place?how is cooley the TE1 already?whats wrong with niles paul and logan paulsen
Oddly enough, that 84 Bears team was only 4-3 after seven games. Was expecting much better.
