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***OFFICIAL*** 2012 Washington Redskins Season Thread (1 Viewer)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8810610/kyle-shanahan-washington-redskins-offensive-coordinator-wants-head-coach

ASHBURN, Va. -- Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan says he's "definitely" interested in exploring head coaching opportunities once Washington's season is over.
I dont like this. Im hoping he just positioning for more money.
:goodposting: Also, I don't think it hurts him at all to ride along with RGIII for a couple of more years. He's an exciting player whose talents are redefining what you can do on offense, and it seems like the project is not really done, right?
 
'T Bell said:
'PinkydaPimp said:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8810610/kyle-shanahan-washington-redskins-offensive-coordinator-wants-head-coach

ASHBURN, Va. -- Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan says he's "definitely" interested in exploring head coaching opportunities once Washington's season is over.
I dont like this. Im hoping he just positioning for more money.
:goodposting: Also, I don't think it hurts him at all to ride along with RGIII for a couple of more years. He's an exciting player whose talents are redefining what you can do on offense, and it seems like the project is not really done, right?
To get a decent HC gig I think he would need to spend at least a couple more years with RG3 performing at a high level.
 
'T Bell said:
'PinkydaPimp said:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8810610/kyle-shanahan-washington-redskins-offensive-coordinator-wants-head-coach

ASHBURN, Va. -- Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan says he's "definitely" interested in exploring head coaching opportunities once Washington's season is over.
I dont like this. Im hoping he just positioning for more money.
:goodposting: Also, I don't think it hurts him at all to ride along with RGIII for a couple of more years. He's an exciting player whose talents are redefining what you can do on offense, and it seems like the project is not really done, right?
To get a decent HC gig I think he would need to spend at least a couple more years with RG3 performing at a high level.
A couple more years? I don't know about that. He's proven his chop twice now, in two different spots, with two entirely different offenses. Two entirely different quarterbacks.
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8810610/kyle-shanahan-washington-redskins-offensive-coordinator-wants-head-coach

ASHBURN, Va. -- Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan says he's "definitely" interested in exploring head coaching opportunities once Washington's season is over.
I dont like this. Im hoping he just positioning for more money.
:goodposting: Also, I don't think it hurts him at all to ride along with RGIII for a couple of more years. He's an exciting player whose talents are redefining what you can do on offense, and it seems like the project is not really done, right?
To get a decent HC gig I think he would need to spend at least a couple more years with RG3 performing at a high level.
A couple more years? I don't know about that. He's proven his chop twice now, in two different spots, with two entirely different offenses. Two entirely different quarterbacks.
I know San Diego radio brings his name up when talking about their next coach. Everyone is looking for the next guy right now. They are sexier hires than the retreads for some reason. I hate hearing that quote from Kyle. We need him around. Maybe The Danny pulls out the old Assistant Head Coach-Offense out of his bag with a nice fat raise and we can keep him around for awhile.

 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8810610/kyle-shanahan-washington-redskins-offensive-coordinator-wants-head-coach

ASHBURN, Va. -- Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan says he's "definitely" interested in exploring head coaching opportunities once Washington's season is over.
I dont like this. Im hoping he just positioning for more money.
:goodposting: Also, I don't think it hurts him at all to ride along with RGIII for a couple of more years. He's an exciting player whose talents are redefining what you can do on offense, and it seems like the project is not really done, right?
To get a decent HC gig I think he would need to spend at least a couple more years with RG3 performing at a high level.
A couple more years? I don't know about that. He's proven his chop twice now, in two different spots, with two entirely different offenses. Two entirely different quarterbacks.
I know San Diego radio brings his name up when talking about their next coach. Everyone is looking for the next guy right now. They are sexier hires than the retreads for some reason. I hate hearing that quote from Kyle. We need him around. Maybe The Danny pulls out the old Assistant Head Coach-Offense out of his bag with a nice fat raise and we can keep him around for awhile.
:goodposting: I could see that happening.

The thing I can't account for is the family dynamics here. Many sons want to push away from their fathers to make their own reputation. Others might view it as a matter of loyalty. I don't know which is more valid here.

 
Lovely.

Sunday, January 6, 2013Andrews: Shanahan didn't ask meESPN.com news servicesDr. James Andrews told USA Today Sports that he didn't clear Robert Griffin III to return for four plays against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9 when he sprained his knee as Mike Shanahan had told reporters after that game and that he's still worried about the Washington Redskins quarterback's knee, even though he has been cleared to play.NFC East blogGraziano ESPN.com's Dan Graziano writes about all things NFC East in his division blog.• Blog network: NFL NationWhen asked why he risked Griffin's long-term health by letting the quarterback return to the game, Shanahan had said he only let Griffin return after he got the OK from Andrews, who was on the team's sideline."He's the one that gives me that information," Shanahan said on Dec. 10. "It's way over my head."Griffin left after the four plays and Kirk Cousins finished the game, helping the Redskins win in overtime."(Shanahan) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews told USA Today Sports. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players, and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion. We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."Andrews told USA Today Sports that he made the call to shut Griffin down on Dec. 9."I'm the one that shut him down that day, finally," Andrews told USA Today. "I've been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He's doing a lot better this week, but he's still recovering and I'm holding my breath because of it."He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do, but it's been a trying moment for me, to be honest with you."Griffin again will wear a brace on his knee Sunday in Washington's wild-card playoff game against the Seahawks. He missed the Redskins' Dec. 16th win over the Browns but has worn the brace since returning on Dec. 23.
 
The knee folding looked ugly. I wouldn't be surprised if Griffin has a surgery in his near future.

The offense was clicking at the start when he could plant on his throws and even run a little. Once he lost that, it was over.

Kudos to the Seahawks for the win, but I will be rooting against them the rest of the way. :)

 
wish they would have started Cousins after halftime
Yeah, I sort of wish they would have pulled Griffin before his knee completely gave, but no amount of second guessing is going to change anything. The Seahawks blitzed the crud out of Cousins when he did come in and he looked like a deer in the headlights. Excruciatingly slow on his reads and decisions. Who knows, if he had come in earlier and they had still blitzed him hard, the final outcome may have been worse.
 
Solid season for WAS compared to expectations. Would have been a much different game if RG3 was fully healthy. Perhaps we'll all get lucky and see that game next year in the playoffs.

 
Anyone who blames RG3 is a complete moron. I said it once and say it again, the last quarterback who volunteered to take himself out of the game because he thought he was too hurt was Jay Cutler. People are still questioning his heart. What would make this any different? There are only 3 people to blame for the physical condition of RG3:

1. Haloti Ngata for crushing his leg to bits to begin with

2. Mike Shannahan for pushing a guy when a trusted doctor James Andrews told it might be best not to

3. Dan Snyder for willing to spend millions and millions of dollars for his own ego but apparently decided that the best way to fix a damaged field was to paint it greener. You have had a week to fix the field and instead did nothing. I mean Heinz field is a dump but that is because it is being prostituted to any high school, college, and concert that will take it. This is a field made for Riggins and the Hogs not the speed and elusiveness of RG3

 
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Anyone who blames RG3 is a complete moron. I said it once and say it again, the last quarterback who volunteered to take himself out of the game because he thought he was too hurt was Jay Cutler. People are still questioning his heart. What would make this any different? There are only 3 people to blame for the physical condition of RG3:

1. Haloti Ngata for crushing his leg to bits to begin with

2. Mike Shannahan for pushing a guy when a trusted doctor James Andrews told it might be best not to

3. Dan Snyder for willing to spend millions and millions of dollars for his own ego but apparently decided that the best way to fix a damaged field was to paint it greener. You have had a week to fix the field and instead did nothing. I mean Heinz field is a dump but that is because it is being prostituted to any high school, college, and concert that will take it. This is a field made for Riggins and the Hogs not the speed and elusiveness of RG3
You can say he shouldn't have let him play but I don't think for a second Shanny pushed RGIII.

 
'STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
'hammerva said:
Anyone who blames RG3 is a complete moron. I said it once and say it again, the last quarterback who volunteered to take himself out of the game because he thought he was too hurt was Jay Cutler. People are still questioning his heart. What would make this any different? There are only 3 people to blame for the physical condition of RG3:

1. Haloti Ngata for crushing his leg to bits to begin with

2. Mike Shannahan for pushing a guy when a trusted doctor James Andrews told it might be best not to

3. Dan Snyder for willing to spend millions and millions of dollars for his own ego but apparently decided that the best way to fix a damaged field was to paint it greener. You have had a week to fix the field and instead did nothing. I mean Heinz field is a dump but that is because it is being prostituted to any high school, college, and concert that will take it. This is a field made for Riggins and the Hogs not the speed and elusiveness of RG3
You can say he shouldn't have let him play but I don't think for a second Shanny pushed RGIII.
I thought it was shanny keeping him in there. I heard shanny post game say it was rg3, I still thought it was shanny. Then I heard rg3 post game, it was rg3. I really like rg3, but yes, he was selfish. He ran up 14 point lead. He is great. He is best qb on team. But he got reinjured early and never got going again. He should have came out, and it seems he is his biggest negotiator. Shanny needs to stop treating him with kid gloves, but he needs to know the respect shanny gives him and give shanny the same respect.

You may be right, he may have been cooked by media/us, but he would have given his team a better chance to win if he took a seat earlier. Should he care more about winning, or more about our opinions?

 
Great game Skins. Here's hoping for a quick and complete recovery by RG3.... he's been great to watch this year. Hope to see you all deep in the playoffs next year.

Just please get a better field :)

 
I am taking wagers on RGIII's knee. ACL reconstruction is imminent. I hope I'm wrong, however, as I have him on 14 of my Dynasty Leagues.

If you would like to dispute this claim, please reply and you can make a bunch of money off me.

Also, Kerrigan (Nancy) was a bigger liability today than Robert. Why is he playing?

TIA.

 
'Sidewinder16 said:
'killing joke said:
wish they would have started Cousins after halftime
Yeah, I sort of wish they would have pulled Griffin before his knee completely gave, but no amount of second guessing is going to change anything. The Seahawks blitzed the crud out of Cousins when he did come in and he looked like a deer in the headlights. Excruciatingly slow on his reads and decisions. Who knows, if he had come in earlier and they had still blitzed him hard, the final outcome may have been worse.
He was in there at a point when there was no threat of anything happening besides him dropping back to pass. If he had come into the game with the Redskins up 14-3 and been allowed to manage the game, I think the final outcome would have been much different.
 
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'Sidewinder16 said:
'killing joke said:
wish they would have started Cousins after halftime
Yeah, I sort of wish they would have pulled Griffin before his knee completely gave, but no amount of second guessing is going to change anything. The Seahawks blitzed the crud out of Cousins when he did come in and he looked like a deer in the headlights. Excruciatingly slow on his reads and decisions. Who knows, if he had come in earlier and they had still blitzed him hard, the final outcome may have been worse.
He was in there at a point when there was no threat of anything happening besides him dropping back to pass. If he had come into the game with the Redskins up 14-3 and been allowed to manage the game, I think the final outcome would have been much different.
:goodposting: It was too late by the time Cousins got in there. That defense is too good to give them the added benefit of knowing they have to pass. He should have been in there at the start of the third quarter, if not immediately after RG tweaked his knee at the end of the second drive. Shanahan trusted him, but there comes a point where you have to stop doubling down with the franchise on the line. Cousins had proven that he can manage that offense with minimal mistakes and even he was clearly more mobile than Griffin was. That was probably the most difficult game I've watched since the Terps blew the 22 point lead to Duke in the 2001 Final Four.And yeah, that field was inexcusable.
 
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'Sidewinder16 said:
'killing joke said:
wish they would have started Cousins after halftime
Yeah, I sort of wish they would have pulled Griffin before his knee completely gave, but no amount of second guessing is going to change anything. The Seahawks blitzed the crud out of Cousins when he did come in and he looked like a deer in the headlights. Excruciatingly slow on his reads and decisions. Who knows, if he had come in earlier and they had still blitzed him hard, the final outcome may have been worse.
He was in there at a point when there was no threat of anything happening besides him dropping back to pass. If he had come into the game with the Redskins up 14-3 and been allowed to manage the game, I think the final outcome would have been much different.
:goodposting: It was too late by the time Cousins got in there. That defense is too good to give them the added benefit of knowing they have to pass. He should have been in there at the start of the third quarter, if not immediately after RG tweaked his knee at the end of the second drive. Shanahan trusted him, but there comes a point where you have to stop doubling down with the franchise on the line. Cousins had proven that he can manage that offense with minimal mistakes and even he was clearly more mobile than Griffin was. That was probably the most difficult game I've watched since the Terps blew the 22 point lead to Duke in the 2001 Final Four.And yeah, that field was inexcusable.
It was like watching a train wreck drawn out over about two hours. It was obvious right after he came back into the game for their third possession that he wasn't okay. I saw a tweet yesterday that seemed dead on - the hardest part about this is going to be watching RG3 cover for a bunch of people who should have known better.
 
Was there talk on the TV broadcast about the # of receivers Griffin had? It seemed like they weren't sending out many receivers on a lot of plays and Griffin rarely had a check down. Far too often, he looked and looked and found nobody to throw to. Seattle was able to double a lot of guys because I think Washington was only sending out three guys.

That wouldn't have been too bad if Griffin was capable of running.

 
Man, just so many "What Ifs?" from this game.

What if Griffin didn't tweak his knee in the first quarter?

What if Cousins replaces Griffin earlier?

What if Hankerson doesn't drop that 3rd down pass in the 4th quarter?

What if Madieu Williams recovers that fumble? Or, better yet, scoops it up and takes it for a 21-3 lead?

What if Reed Doughty gets that INT, keeping Seattle from their first points?

I'm sure Seattle would have their own "What Ifs?" had the game gone differently. It's always easy to see the bad when you lose.

 
Was there talk on the TV broadcast about the # of receivers Griffin had? It seemed like they weren't sending out many receivers on a lot of plays and Griffin rarely had a check down. Far too often, he looked and looked and found nobody to throw to. Seattle was able to double a lot of guys because I think Washington was only sending out three guys.That wouldn't have been too bad if Griffin was capable of running.
Lol, is this your first time watching? He has 3 reads on every play. A short guy, a medium guy, and a long guy. If he can't run he is 100% ineffective.
 
Was there talk on the TV broadcast about the # of receivers Griffin had? It seemed like they weren't sending out many receivers on a lot of plays and Griffin rarely had a check down. Far too often, he looked and looked and found nobody to throw to. Seattle was able to double a lot of guys because I think Washington was only sending out three guys.That wouldn't have been too bad if Griffin was capable of running.
Lol, is this your first time watching? He has 3 reads on every play. A short guy, a medium guy, and a long guy. If he can't run he is 100% ineffective.
Don't come into this thread with your ####ing bull#### right now. Seriously. Go spout about Griffin being a Slot WR with a good arm somewhere else.
 
Was there talk on the TV broadcast about the # of receivers Griffin had? It seemed like they weren't sending out many receivers on a lot of plays and Griffin rarely had a check down. Far too often, he looked and looked and found nobody to throw to. Seattle was able to double a lot of guys because I think Washington was only sending out three guys.That wouldn't have been too bad if Griffin was capable of running.
Lol, is this your first time watching? He has 3 reads on every play. A short guy, a medium guy, and a long guy. If he can't run he is 100% ineffective.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Go away.
 
From one of the main guys over at Extremeskins:

I'm hearing MCL tear but its unconfirmed pending MRI results.
Now this guy, tk, is hearing out for 2013, too.
We just watched AP nearly break the rushing record after ACL surgery the prior December. I think those guys might want to get their horses under control. At the very least until the MRI results.
 
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From one of the main guys over at Extremeskins:

I'm hearing MCL tear but its unconfirmed pending MRI results.
Now this guy, tk, is hearing out for 2013, too.
We just watched AP nearly break the rushing record after tearing his ACL surgery the prior December. I think those guys might want to get their horses under control. At the very least until the MRI results.
To be fair, a PCL is an entirely different animal.
 
From one of the main guys over at Extremeskins:

I'm hearing MCL tear but its unconfirmed pending MRI results.
Now this guy, tk, is hearing out for 2013, too.
Oof.And here I was, hoping we could start up the ***OFFICIAL*** Off Season thread. :( I was looking forward to talking about re-signing some UFAs, or about DHall restructuring his contract.
Yeah, I wanted to talk about getting a RT, another WR, and the need for one difference maker on the defensive side of the ball.
 
From one of the main guys over at Extremeskins:

I'm hearing MCL tear but its unconfirmed pending MRI results.
Now this guy, tk, is hearing out for 2013, too.
Oof.And here I was, hoping we could start up the ***OFFICIAL*** Off Season thread. :( I was looking forward to talking about re-signing some UFAs, or about DHall restructuring his contract.
Crap. This feels like getting punished for having had a good season. Karma backlash.
 
If this turns out to be true and he misses the whole season, how long does the Shanahan (for playing RG3) and Snyder (for the field conditions) bashing last? Will it ever stop?

 
RT*@MattFaulconer10: Fred Smoot on the Fan reporting that he "heard from people in the building" that RG3 has a torn ACL / PCL. Confirming*@HTTR24_7*report.

 
If this turns out to be true and he misses the whole season, how long does the Shanahan (for playing RG3) and Snyder (for the field conditions) bashing last? Will it ever stop?
Maybe when he comes back fully healthy. It's well deserved until then IMO. Epic organizational failure.
 
If this turns out to be true and he misses the whole season, how long does the Shanahan (for playing RG3) and Snyder (for the field conditions) bashing last? Will it ever stop?
If this turns out to be true, how do they not deserve the bashing.Personally I don't think it is that season ending like the rumors but the RG3 that people remember against the Vikings with the long, fast TD run may be over.
 
If this turns out to be true and he misses the whole season, how long does the Shanahan (for playing RG3) and Snyder (for the field conditions) bashing last? Will it ever stop?
If this turns out to be true, how do they not deserve the bashing.
Oh, not saying it's no deserving. But, sports talk radio is going to be horrible (cue the "it's already horrible" jokes) all offseason. The Caps could be in game 7 of the Cup Finals (cue more jokes) and those guys would still be beating the drum about this.
 

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