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Oilers are a more talented team than the Flames, but Calgary has more heart and is a harder working team. Hall looked absolutely lost on Calgary's first goal. How hard is it to take the only opposing player in your zone out of the play?
Yes, but the asking price for Schneider from Western Conference teams, like Edmonton for one, was much higher than what they got from NJ.Essentially we are both right because we are talking about two different situations.
Well that's standard though, nobody wants to trade in the same conference. I just think they'll want too much for Kesler. Can't blame them though since who's going to fill that #2 C role? Hell the Hawks have been looking for 4 years and can't find one,
Shockingly the PK has been outstanding tonight. 6 penalties taken against the #1 or 2 PP team in the league is a dancing with the devil. Hawks have come to play EV strength though and Crow has looked very good.
I've said it many times the past three years, I was just waiting and really excited about the Oilers talent and what seemed like a certain rise to excellence. I thought they needed to add a few veteran players to the mix, now I have no idea what is wrong with them.
I think the problem is very clear. they have not drafted very well outside of the early 1st round picks. if you look at their draft history over the past 5+ years, it's a mess outside of early round 1 picks. just a wasteland.
Probably a good choice. Would be miserable in the stands and you wouldn't be able to see ####.
That's why Pittsburgh makes so much sense as a trade partner because they have Crosby and Malkin as their 1 and 2 C. They can swap Sutter to Vcvr making him the Canucks #2 C and put Kesler on their third line.
A Pens fan ( I think) addressed this, since Letang's stroke Pitt may not be pushing in this direction. But on this note is Sutter a legit #2 or is he a #3 that the Nucks would push into the #2 role?
huh?
Yeah, depth is huge in an organization. The Wings are good at developing elite prospects (Z, Datsyuk, Federov, Lidstrom, etc) but they have made their bones with the help of depth guys like Draper, Holmstrom, Franzen, Maltby, Ericsson and Ward. They now have guys like Sheahan, Abdelkader, Glendening and Andersson. Not exciting names but they are all solid contributors who can be long-term 3rd and 4th round guys that play on a nightly basis. Hit with your elite guys like Tatar and Nyquist and sprinkle in these depth guys, and you can maintain some excellence long-term.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID26iClPumILuke Gazdic is one tough SOB. He tuned in Clayton Stoner of the Wild the other night and just turned out Westgarth's lights tonight.
Westgarth hung in there and then Luke knocked out his mouthguard and him. The linesman was immediately calling from help from the Flames' bench when Westgarth hit the ice.
Gazdic has to be the toughest guy, that can a play a regular shift, the Oilers have had since Laraque. And yes, as sad as it is, this gets fans excited in Edmonton.
Don't regret it at all. I went to the Wrigley Field game so I knew what it would be like. I also was at the Bears/Cowboys game and froze my balls off.
Does anyone besides CE think Sutter is even anything special? He looks lost most of the time when I watch the Pens and he isn't exactly lighting up the stat sheet playing with guys like Crosby, Malkin, and Neal. Pittsburgh's looking to move him because he isn't very good.
does he have a NTC? I recall reading he wanted to go to a contender. Couver want Hodgson back?
Definitely painful to be an Oilers fan right now.
I don't think he's special at all. Certainly a nice player, but given the Canucks scoring woes they need a scoring forward to be the key asset coming back for Kesler, and Sutter is not that player.Does anyone besides CE think Sutter is even anything special? He looks lost most of the time when I watch the Pens and he isn't exactly lighting up the stat sheet playing with guys like Crosby, Malkin, and Neal. Pittsburgh's looking to move him because he isn't very good.
He does, but there's enough contenders out there and Kesler is a desired enough player that there should be no reason not to get a fair value return.
I think that has been a problem for the Oilers, but not the only one. As far as drafting goes, I even question their first round picks. Tambellini was always drafting BPA and not looking at team need if the choice was a close one. He also made some horrible FA signings that were supposed to fill holes on the team (Cam Barker,etc.) and left them going back to the drawing board in 2-3 seasons. They rushed their first round picks in to the NHL and probably stunted their development by throwing them into the deep end before they were ready. Successful teams put most of their high picks back in Junior or on the 3rd line and ease them into the transition to the pro game.
Detroit has also done a good job of letting their young players develop in the minors.
Yeah, they leave them there a long time in most cases and expect them to be ready to play the sytem when they are called up. I think they wanted Nyquist and Tatar to play in Grand Rapids all year this year, but couldn't afford to do so with the injuries. In Babcock's system forwards are expected to play defense and the d-men are expected to play a perfect game. Smith and Kindl have struggled in Detroit where I think their shortcomings would be less obvious elsewhere, but they learn as they go.
Oh hell yes. Would love to see a deal like that.AcerFC said:
That is touted and rightfully so in most cases, but I think Holland also hangs onto veterans longer than he should. There is no reason guys like Bertuzzi and Sammuelson should have been resigned.northern exposure said:
Vancouver has Eddie Lack, they don't need Talbot.AcerFC said:
