flapgreen
Footballguy
I think he chose the Bears because it was his best shot at starting. I doubt he cares too much about the Super Bowl.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
Would be awesome to see Bostic and Greene play well. If they don't, however, I won't put too much thought into it. Asking them to perform well against GB in their first start is asking a lot.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Wrong thread - this belongs in the "Things You Never Thought You'd Say 2 Months Ago"
Shea has 6.5 career sacks - 4.5 are against the Packers. I say we keep him.
RBM
Footballguy
Statcruncher
Footballguy
McClellin completely changed the NFC playoff chase. That being said he still sucks as a full time DE.
DoubleG
Footballguy
We'll see I guess. I heard the talking heads talking about how Shea has a decent matchup this week too - with the Lions O-line banged up. Maybe the speed and "high motor" guy starts to perform better as O-lines get dinged up and the season drags on. Maybe he's learning better technique and the Bears are learning how to use him more efficiently. I do think the bye week helped Peppers - and anything that helps Pep, helps the entire defensive line.I agree - I am not convinced that Shea suddenly had a lightbulb moment. But if McClellin can even bring most of that on a semi-regular basis, maybe that first round pick wasn't quite as horrible as it seemed earlier on. One concern is that McClellin IS part of the reason that the Packers were able to rip big runs (well, that and the safeties both are fairly bad) - he might be a good pass rusher but he is too small (or at least doesn't play stout enough yet) to play the run in a standard 4-3, imho.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
This team is a lock to win it all this year.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
I don't think the D decline is all Tucker, injuries and age have finally come calling.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I agree with this. Add to the fact that it wasn't Tucker's drafting or roster decision to have the two schlebs they have at safety. As I said, Chris Conte MUST have pictures of several Bears front office people, because he might be the worst safety the Bears have trotted out as a true starter (i.e. not some injury replacement) - since the scab games in the 80's.
Conte takes horrible angles, is slow, can't cover, doesn't close well, doesn't take the ball away, is a very soft hitter and generally would be better off working at Best Buy selling dishwashers. If anyone can post one thing that Conte does well as an NFL safety, I would love to see it.
The_Wolfman
Footballguy
Couldn't agree more. I've never seen a Bears safety be just so consistently bad in every aspect of the game. Most of the long runs by Green Bay were a direct result of Conte missing tackles on RBs that got to the second level. The safety's main job has to be to contain those runs so a gain of 10 yards doesn't become a 50 yard TD run.
The Bears need to think seriously about replacing him. At least get someone in there who is a competent tackler. Steltz and Wright are the backups it's hard to imagine either one of them being any worse than what we've seen from Conte this year.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Those have played a role, but he hasn't done a good job either. They have been awful. I stretched it a little.
RBM
Footballguy
twistd
Footballguy
I really put this loss on Trestman. Jay Cutler had no business in the game in the fourth quarter. The Bears had an opportunity to make the playoffs. That chance is gone. Trestman will learn but this boneheaded decision was very costly.
This is typical Bears. I gave up on them before the Packer game. I gave them no chance in the Packers game. They win that. So again I have hope with a winnable game against Detroit. And the Bears lay a turd in this game and blow a chance to lead the division. But this is the type of game that bad teams lose.
This is typical Bears. I gave up on them before the Packer game. I gave them no chance in the Packers game. They win that. So again I have hope with a winnable game against Detroit. And the Bears lay a turd in this game and blow a chance to lead the division. But this is the type of game that bad teams lose.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
I don't think it's about Trestman learning. He's been coaching football for 30 years. I'll bet he will be the first to admit he probably should have done things differently.
I feel strange being the optimist in here, since I have always been the Bears biggest critic, but I think they will be fine. Still a lot of football left.
I feel strange being the optimist in here, since I have always been the Bears biggest critic, but I think they will be fine. Still a lot of football left.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Peanut to IR with triceps injury. :(
RBM
Footballguy
Statcruncher
Footballguy
The Tick
Footballguy
I don't think you can say anyone on defense lost this game even though they weren't great. This one falls squarely on the shoulders of the offense and Coaching.
ryno1980
Footballguy
Wright was awful. The defense played well for the most part, yes. But Tillman has to have safety help on Johnson in the red zone and Wright was in lala land. A couple coaching blunders are frustrating for sure, but Wright has to make some plays... Slauson's hold, Jeffery's drop in the end zone, plenty of blame to go around. Just tired of hearing the blame toward Cutler for fighting through an injury when the same people probably moaned when he wasn't playing through the MCL sprain.
The Tick
Footballguy
I haven't really seen too many people put much blame on cutler, and i don't think he deserves much, overall i thought he played pretty well. INT wasn't really his falut, just a good play by Suh getting his hands up, cutler made some great 3rd and long throws, the first TD pass to Jeffery was a bullet in perfection position. I think he should have been pulled a little earlier then he was, but he did look pretty good most of the game even with his injuries and getting the hell beat out of him again.
Oh and you are correct Wright was pretty bad, no question about it. I really doubt we see him on the team next year. His contract is up and he just hasn't shown growth as a playmaking safety. I can see how they resign him. I think we will have to deal with Conte for another year or two as we just have to many holes to fill, so anyone under contract, besides Peppers will likely be back.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
You left out the part about zero pass rush.
ryno1980
Footballguy
Vector
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
That was my opinion. On his radio show, he said it was worse than had been reported and he was still in a cast. Ankle injuries, especially when there is significant damage to multiple ligaments, are a real problem.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Trestman's summary, of not taking TOs at the end of regulation, was a refreshing departure from the old regime.
DoubleG
Footballguy
His summary (i.e. willingness to explain) - yes. The decision not to do so could have easily backfired (and does if Doss doesn't drop an easy first down in OT - or the snap on 3rd and goal at the end of regulation isn't into the ground).
I like Trestman's willingness to explain his thought process - I don't always agree with that thought process however. His clock management is still quite suspect, imho. I also don't always like the Bear reluctance to run in the ball in the red zone.
