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****Official 2014 Chicago Bears Thread **** (1 Viewer)
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Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Revenge games this year - Miami, NE, SF, Panthers, Saints and GB. If the team is going to live up to the moves they have made (including what we hope to be a very productive draft) this might be one heck of a year.
RBM
Footballguy
I think I've settled in to either safety (Dix/Pryor) in the 1st, grab a run stuffer in the 2nd. I just can't get over how disgusted I was weekly by our safety play last year, both positions. I was disgusted with the run D just as much, but I think the moves we've already made will help with that a lot.
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The Tick
Footballguy
Reasons why Angelo should never work in football again...
Chicago officially has the least amount of drafted players left on it's roster with 15. I'm almost surprised we have been able to do as well as we have lately with that stat. Just can't win in this league without drafting young, and cheap talent.
And of course the team with the most is the packers with 33.
Chicago officially has the least amount of drafted players left on it's roster with 15. I'm almost surprised we have been able to do as well as we have lately with that stat. Just can't win in this league without drafting young, and cheap talent.
And of course the team with the most is the packers with 33.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Only reason we're doing well is free agency. Emery has played that brilliantly.
I'm not defending Angelo at all, but that's a terrible stat. Any organization that changes GM/HC is going to have a huge turnover %
The Tick
Footballguy
Supposedly Hard Knocks is down to 3 finalists:
Chicago
NYG
Pittsburg
I hope we don't get it... We need some serious improvement this year, and I don't think having the cameras around can help.
Now more reports that the above information is not true... Can only hope.
Chicago
NYG
Pittsburg
I hope we don't get it... We need some serious improvement this year, and I don't think having the cameras around can help.
Now more reports that the above information is not true... Can only hope.
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Neither player looks worthy of #14 and with a better front 7 they will look better. Chicago signed 3 safeties to compete with conte. While that's not perfect u can't do it all at once
RBM
Footballguy
I disagree. I think both are worthy of 14. And I won't be surprised if Dix goes as high as 9 to Buffalo.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
What is the priority at this point for RB in the draft? Still holding steady on need for safety and DT with 1 and 2 but that third pick is going to be a big one as well.
-X-
Footballguy
Prognosticating 2014 Bears' picks for the first four rounds, Emery-style:
1.14: Jimmie Ward, F/SS, NIU - He's reached before, he'll reach again. Why it makes sense: Dude can play both safety positions and cornerback as well; his flexibility is key and he's a ballhawk.
2.19 (51): Kelcy Quarles, DT, SC - This is about as close to Jernigan as you're gonna find in the middle of the second. Led the Gamecocks with 13.5 tackles for loss & 9.5 sacks (and that's with that guy Clowney on the same team) in 2013. Big upside, no significant injury history and relatively fresh.
3.18 (82): Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty - Who??? K. Gill & S. Jean-Baptiste will likely be gone by this pick, but Aikens is 6'1"/203 lbs., has a 35" vert and can play press and off/zone. Has also played FS and ran just under a 4.5s 40.
4.17 (117): Jerick McKinnon, RB, GA Southern - Best "workout warrior" RB of the combine (4.37s 40, 40.5" vert, 11' broad jump, 6.83s 3-cone, 32x225(!)) and can be a nice Ray Rice/MJD-type (5'9"/209 lbs.) change-of-pace back for Forte when he needs a rest, or carry the load if needed.
For sure this will be completely wrong, but still fun to consider.
1.14: Jimmie Ward, F/SS, NIU - He's reached before, he'll reach again. Why it makes sense: Dude can play both safety positions and cornerback as well; his flexibility is key and he's a ballhawk.
2.19 (51): Kelcy Quarles, DT, SC - This is about as close to Jernigan as you're gonna find in the middle of the second. Led the Gamecocks with 13.5 tackles for loss & 9.5 sacks (and that's with that guy Clowney on the same team) in 2013. Big upside, no significant injury history and relatively fresh.
3.18 (82): Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty - Who??? K. Gill & S. Jean-Baptiste will likely be gone by this pick, but Aikens is 6'1"/203 lbs., has a 35" vert and can play press and off/zone. Has also played FS and ran just under a 4.5s 40.
4.17 (117): Jerick McKinnon, RB, GA Southern - Best "workout warrior" RB of the combine (4.37s 40, 40.5" vert, 11' broad jump, 6.83s 3-cone, 32x225(!)) and can be a nice Ray Rice/MJD-type (5'9"/209 lbs.) change-of-pace back for Forte when he needs a rest, or carry the load if needed.
For sure this will be completely wrong, but still fun to consider.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
So just how cheap is the price for miscast Shea McClellin?
He obviously didn't fit the 4-3. And its going to be worse as a OLB.
He only has 1 year left with the Bears in reality.
He has 2 years remaining on contract but will get a 750k roster bonus next year and be 2.65 million against the cap.
/signed a Steeler fan.
He obviously didn't fit the 4-3. And its going to be worse as a OLB.
He only has 1 year left with the Bears in reality.
He has 2 years remaining on contract but will get a 750k roster bonus next year and be 2.65 million against the cap.
/signed a Steeler fan.
RBM
Footballguy
No idea if he will be worse at OLB. I'm willing to give him a fair shot. He's supposedly in ridiculous shape.
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
+1jurb26 said:
flapgreen
Footballguy
Dennard starting to get more run
higgins
Footballguy
The reason Buffalo didn't try to re-sign all pro Jairus Byrd was that they didn't consider the safety position to be as significant in their defensive schemes as other teams do -- I don't think they're going to now go out and spend a 1st on a safety when they have greater needs staring them in the face.
hugebearsfansinceforever
Footballguy
I've got a suspicion that if Emery trades down a couple of spots in the 1st round that Da Bears will select Eric Ebron with their 1st pick, trade up and draft defense the next three picks and grab a RB with their 5th pick.
Of course, I could be way off...
Of course, I could be way off...
RBM
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
The pick isn't worth much considering how deep the first round is. No reason to draft Ebron
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
OK guys, almost draft time. Gun to your head, who do you think we take and how are we going to do it?
I'd love to see them deal up to get Donald, but I think he might go higher than suspected. I think they get Calvin Pryor because HaHa gets snaked by StL one pick ahead of them.
I'd love to see them deal up to get Donald, but I think he might go higher than suspected. I think they get Calvin Pryor because HaHa gets snaked by StL one pick ahead of them.
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Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
I think HaHa will get snaked by STL too unless they get OT at 2 and Evans/Beckham Jr drop to 13. I think Clinton-Dix will be a stud in the NFL, so would love for him to fall to 14 and Bears take him.Deranged Hermit said:
If Donald is on the board, I think they take him. If he's not, and the Bears stand pat, it'll be one of the safeties. Gut feeling says it'll be Pryor.
But I would like to see them trade back if they could and accumulate Day 2 selections if they can. I still think they can get an impact defensive player in the 20s, and this team needs all the depth on defence (which having an additional Day 2 selection or 2 would help with) it can get.
But I would like to see them trade back if they could and accumulate Day 2 selections if they can. I still think they can get an impact defensive player in the 20s, and this team needs all the depth on defence (which having an additional Day 2 selection or 2 would help with) it can get.
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The Tick
Footballguy
If Donald is there I think he is the pick. For some reason, even though we don't have crap there, I'm not sold on the Dix, don't know why... so if there is no Donald I'm going to say either Mosley or Dennard. Safety is a bigger need, but I think those two will be better players.
After that I will be hoping that Jimmie Ward either falls to us in the second or gets close enough we where jump up a few picks to grab him.
But 50% of me says that Emory won't take anyone on the "standard list" of bears picks: Donald, Dix, Prior, Dennard, Gilbert, Mosley, Jerrigan.
After that I will be hoping that Jimmie Ward either falls to us in the second or gets close enough we where jump up a few picks to grab him.
But 50% of me says that Emory won't take anyone on the "standard list" of bears picks: Donald, Dix, Prior, Dennard, Gilbert, Mosley, Jerrigan.
hugebearsfansinceforever
Footballguy
RBM
Footballguy
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Do not be surprised if Emery does not pick a S in the first round and instead gets a CB in the 2nd or 3rd round that can also play safety. The CB depth is great in the draft this year so do not be surprised if he goes that route. Ideally, I would love to get either Donald or Dennard or Gilbert with the first round pick.
I know this will never happen but I would love it if Emery pulls a shocker and gets a stud player on O with 14....imagine Beckam in the slot as we run 3 WR sets or Ebron to go with Bennett as our 1-2 TE punch....nothing wrong in solidifying a top 5 O for the next 5 years. We could still get a DT and CB and S in rounds 2-4 and there is lots of depth at CB and DT this year anyways. I would love taking a chance on a Will Sutton in the 3rd or 4th round if he falls
I know this will never happen but I would love it if Emery pulls a shocker and gets a stud player on O with 14....imagine Beckam in the slot as we run 3 WR sets or Ebron to go with Bennett as our 1-2 TE punch....nothing wrong in solidifying a top 5 O for the next 5 years. We could still get a DT and CB and S in rounds 2-4 and there is lots of depth at CB and DT this year anyways. I would love taking a chance on a Will Sutton in the 3rd or 4th round if he falls
can you blame anyone for asking for more offense? We've been asking for more offense since before most of us were born. It's an annual eventYou guys are crazy with this obsession with more offense. We already have a top 5 offense. I'll go further, there is not a team with a better group of starters at the skill positions. RB, 2 WR, TE.
We have to stop teams fellas.
The Tick
Footballguy
Agreed! If the defense was at least respectable last year, I could see a surprise O pick, but they weren't. They were just horrible. We need to try to get at least 2 D starters in this draft which means taking 3-4 high pick shots to get 2 that work out. I can't find any excuse for them to try and take an offensive player before the 4th round.
We have to stop teams fellas.
RBM
Footballguy
True and it did feel very weird for me to type we have a top 5 O.can you blame anyone for asking for more offense? We've been asking for more offense since before most of us were born. It's an annual event
We have to stop teams fellas.
But then I remember how pissed off I was every week last year watching opponents go up and down the field and it's such a no brainer.
What I would do:
Round 1:
1) Draft Aaron Donald
2) If Donald is gone trade down with NYJ. Take Dennard, Gilbert, CJ Mosley, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Calvin Pryor in that order.
3) If Donald is gone trade down with 49ers for a boat load of picks. If Dennard, Gilbert, Mosley, Dix, Pryor or Fuller are left take them. If not, grab Louis Nix, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee, Bradley Roby, Kony Ealy, Ryan Shazier.
-Nix i've discussed before gives the DL what it needs most(size). Cooks/Lee give the Bears a much needed quick/slot threat that will exploit matchup problems due to Jeffery/Marshall and is insurance if Marshall doesn't return. Roby is underrated and can be the slot CB for 1 year and take over for Tillman in 2015. Ealy can add weight and move to DT. Shazier is crazy fast and could be a sideline to sideline MLB(sound familiar?).
Round 2:
1) Any from Option 3 above and Jaylen Watkins CB Florida, Jimmie Ward FS Northern Illinois.
Watkins is a very solid CB prospect.
Round 3:
1) Pierre Desir CB Linwood, Paul Richardson WR Colorado
Desir is a big CB that makes plays(also remind you of someone) and Richardson is a Bernard Berrian clone that will take pressure off of our big 2.
Round 1:
1) Draft Aaron Donald
2) If Donald is gone trade down with NYJ. Take Dennard, Gilbert, CJ Mosley, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Calvin Pryor in that order.
3) If Donald is gone trade down with 49ers for a boat load of picks. If Dennard, Gilbert, Mosley, Dix, Pryor or Fuller are left take them. If not, grab Louis Nix, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee, Bradley Roby, Kony Ealy, Ryan Shazier.
-Nix i've discussed before gives the DL what it needs most(size). Cooks/Lee give the Bears a much needed quick/slot threat that will exploit matchup problems due to Jeffery/Marshall and is insurance if Marshall doesn't return. Roby is underrated and can be the slot CB for 1 year and take over for Tillman in 2015. Ealy can add weight and move to DT. Shazier is crazy fast and could be a sideline to sideline MLB(sound familiar?).
Round 2:
1) Any from Option 3 above and Jaylen Watkins CB Florida, Jimmie Ward FS Northern Illinois.
Watkins is a very solid CB prospect.
Round 3:
1) Pierre Desir CB Linwood, Paul Richardson WR Colorado
Desir is a big CB that makes plays(also remind you of someone) and Richardson is a Bernard Berrian clone that will take pressure off of our big 2.
