King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I agree but pulling trades in this league is challenging. I have a stacked team and Allen is not even a starter so I decided to go for upside.Warhogs said:
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**Official 2014 In Season Dynasty Trade Thread** (2 Viewers)
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Rolling_akg
Footballguy
12 team, ppr, qb,2rb,3wr,te,flex
All TDs worth 6
Team A gave Cam Newton
Team B gave Arian Foster
Team A does have Romo and could contend
Team B close to a rebuild
All TDs worth 6
Team A gave Cam Newton
Team B gave Arian Foster
Team A does have Romo and could contend
Team B close to a rebuild
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squistion
Footballguy
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
How does the only WR1 candidate for the leagues hottest QB count as low upside
r0llin_game
Footballguy
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
Team A trades:
Brandon Marshall
Team B trades:
Amari Cooper
2015 1st
2015 3rd
Team A was most certainly going to miss the playoffs barring some miracle.
Team A trades:
Brandon Marshall
Team B trades:
Amari Cooper
2015 1st
2015 3rd
Team A was most certainly going to miss the playoffs barring some miracle.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I like Allen plenty, but he's currently being outscored by Gates, Royal and Floyd. That should change, but it's reasonable to think that OBJ has higher upside.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This trade with a few picks is also included in the "worst trade offer" thread also. Weird.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Several recent deals. All 12 team PPRs
Gave: 2015 2nd ( likely early)
Got: AP
Felt he was worth the price ( that's not my pick, as I'm a contender) and I could sit on him for a bit
Gave: A. Williams
Got: A. Johnson
Owner of AJ in a rebuild
Gave: L.Miller, M.Lee
Got: CPatt
Not a huge CPatt fan, but felt this was too good to pass up
Gave: A.Williams, J.Matthews, Bennett, 2015 1st
Got: AJG, V.Davis
Gave: 2015 2nd ( likely early)
Got: AP
Felt he was worth the price ( that's not my pick, as I'm a contender) and I could sit on him for a bit
Gave: A. Williams
Got: A. Johnson
Owner of AJ in a rebuild
Gave: L.Miller, M.Lee
Got: CPatt
Not a huge CPatt fan, but felt this was too good to pass up
Gave: A.Williams, J.Matthews, Bennett, 2015 1st
Got: AJG, V.Davis
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I like it. Williams has been landing a lot of TD's, surely it cannot keep up. Nice little sell high guy right now.
Great deal for you. The 1st on its own would be a good return for Williams getting Woods as well is a bonus
FUBAR
Footballguy
Somewhat of a big trade:
Newton, Cam CAR QB
Cadet, Travaris NOS RB
Ingram, Mark NOS RB
McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
Bailey, Stedman STL WR
Prater, Matt DET PK
for
Stafford, Matthew DET QB
Martin, Doug TBB RB
Zuerlein, Greg STL PK
Whitehead, Tahir DET LB
Two 2015 1sts (both likely late, 1.10-1.16 range)
2015 2nd (probably #20-24)
Newton, Cam CAR QB
Cadet, Travaris NOS RB
Ingram, Mark NOS RB
McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
Bailey, Stedman STL WR
Prater, Matt DET PK
for
Stafford, Matthew DET QB
Martin, Doug TBB RB
Zuerlein, Greg STL PK
Whitehead, Tahir DET LB
Two 2015 1sts (both likely late, 1.10-1.16 range)
2015 2nd (probably #20-24)
Am I overlooking something or is there more to it? For me the Cam side and it is IMO not close.
FUBAR
Footballguy
one side is rebuilding (will be a force in a couple years or less) and the other contending.Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
cstu
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team dynasty (FFPC)
Michael Floyd
for
Jace Amaro
2015 1st (pick is as guaranteed a top 4 pick in this format as you can probably get, so the pick is anywhere from 1-4, likely in the pick 2-3 range)
Michael Floyd
for
Jace Amaro
2015 1st (pick is as guaranteed a top 4 pick in this format as you can probably get, so the pick is anywhere from 1-4, likely in the pick 2-3 range)
FUBAR
Footballguy
Seems fair, I'd take the Amaro/pick side if you can afford to take the hit this year. (either not competing or don't need Floyd)
One More Rep
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR QRRWWWTKF
Gave: Darren McFadden, Calvin Johnson
Received: DeAndre Hopkins, 2015 1st, 2016 1st.
I'm currently 4-2 (DH in week 3). Three division winners get the top three seeds, fourth seed best remaining record (tie breaker h2h), fifth/six seeds, most points remaining. I am currently the 4 seed, but 9th in points. I have a decent core, but felt the need to restructure the team a bit and I'm a fan of DeAndre, even though he doesn't go after crucial fumbles that help decide the game, haha.
The other team is current 1-5, second to last in points, mostly due to RB injuries, so good chance it remains a top four pick. 2016 pick I'd figure that team to be a playoff team.
Gave: Darren McFadden, Calvin Johnson
Received: DeAndre Hopkins, 2015 1st, 2016 1st.
I'm currently 4-2 (DH in week 3). Three division winners get the top three seeds, fourth seed best remaining record (tie breaker h2h), fifth/six seeds, most points remaining. I am currently the 4 seed, but 9th in points. I have a decent core, but felt the need to restructure the team a bit and I'm a fan of DeAndre, even though he doesn't go after crucial fumbles that help decide the game, haha.
The other team is current 1-5, second to last in points, mostly due to RB injuries, so good chance it remains a top four pick. 2016 pick I'd figure that team to be a playoff team.
One More Rep
Footballguy
12 Team ppr qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex-rb wr te
Team A Gives Keenan Allen/Kendall Wright
Team B Gives Brandin Cooks/OBJ
Team A Gives Keenan Allen/Kendall Wright
Team B Gives Brandin Cooks/OBJ
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
So he was already bad (hence why he's rebuilding) and he trades AWAY McCoy, Cam, and Ingram for a bunch of junk and he's "going to be a force in a couple years or less"? Based on what? Two late 1st round picks that won't even come close to replacing the young studs he traded away even in a best case scenario?
Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
Just another example of why some people are perpetually rebuilding.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I'll take the early 1st. If it ends up being Gurley/Gordon those guys are probably going to be considered top 5-10 dynasty running backs before they ever step onto the field.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Once you make the playoffs you'll probably regret this deal.
But a top 4 pick will be nice next year.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Not to argue much here, but I think you're overrating Ingram and underrating Stafford.So he was already bad (hence why he's rebuilding) and he trades AWAY McCoy, Cam, and Ingram for a bunch of junk and he's "going to be a force in a couple years or less"? Based on what? Two late 1st round picks that won't even come close to replacing the young studs he traded away even in a best case scenario?
Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
He has a lot of young talent on his roster - enough that after trading these guys away he's the top scoring team this week.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I agree Stafford is certainly not "trash," but that's still a terrible deal.Not to argue much here, but I think you're overrating Ingram and underrating Stafford.So he was already bad (hence why he's rebuilding) and he trades AWAY McCoy, Cam, and Ingram for a bunch of junk and he's "going to be a force in a couple years or less"? Based on what? Two late 1st round picks that won't even come close to replacing the young studs he traded away even in a best case scenario?
Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
He has a lot of young talent on his roster - enough that after trading these guys away he's the top scoring team this week.
Pro tip: when you're "rebuilding," don't trade your studs away in a package.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not this one anyway. Not sure everything he got would be enough for just mccoy, let alone giving teh other guys.
Actually no, definitely not enough for Mccoy unless its a 2 QB league then sure.
And no idea how the trade escalated into adding in Mccoy for a couple late picks. Terrible
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I just find that generally speaking, when you package players, you're paying/selling for less. If someone approached me about Cam and McCoy, I'd basically tell them I'll do one at a time. Probably start with whichever player I felt there was less of a market for otherwise.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Generally, yes.
It's kinda rare to find a team that has the right ammo for what you would be looking for in that case. But if they do, and it works out, go for it
FUBAR
Footballguy
the guy had made it known that McCoy was available but RBs generally don't sell high in this league. Last year a different owner shopped Charles for weeks without success until I also traded for him.Cam being offered was out of nowhere, but he wanted Stafford so that's not a huge drop.
As for how the trade escalated, it can happen if you discuss possibilities with the other owner.
but thanks for the "pro" tip.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I don't even know what you're saying here. It's nice that he made it known McCoy was available and that you traded for Jamal Charles last year. Thanks for letting us know that things "can happen if you discuss possibilities" when talking trade.
Cam being offered was out of nowhere, but he wanted Stafford so that's not a huge drop.
As for how the trade escalated, it can happen if you discuss possibilities with the other owner.
but thanks for the "pro" tip.
It's still a terrible trade.
If RB's don't sell very high in your league, then don't trade McCoy. I have no idea why "rebuilding" means you have to trade McCoy. He's not Peterson or Fred Jackson, or even Jamal Charles who is older than him. He's a young, stud RB.
But hey, I'm rebuilding, and this league doesn't like paying for RB's, so I guess I should trade him for a sidegrade at QB, a couple of late 1sts, and whatever negligible difference there may be between Mark Ingram and Doug Martin.
So many bad trades are done under the justification of "I'm rebuilding."
Most often you're just spinning your wheels, or worse.Yeah. This trade makes no sense giving up Newton/McCoy for Stafford/Martin and late picks.I don't even know what you're saying here. It's nice that he made it known McCoy was available and that you traded for Jamal Charles last year. Thanks for letting us know that things "can happen if you discuss possibilities" when talking trade.
Cam being offered was out of nowhere, but he wanted Stafford so that's not a huge drop.
As for how the trade escalated, it can happen if you discuss possibilities with the other owner.
but thanks for the "pro" tip.
It's still a terrible trade.
If RB's don't sell very high in your league, then don't trade McCoy. I have no idea why "rebuilding" means you have to trade McCoy. He's not Peterson or Fred Jackson, or even Jamal Charles who is older than him. He's a young, stud RB.
But hey, I'm rebuilding, and this league doesn't like paying for RB's, so I guess I should trade him for a sidegrade at QB, a couple of late 1sts, and whatever negligible difference there may be between Mark Ingram and Doug Martin.
So many bad trades are done under the justification of "I'm rebuilding."
Rebuilds will take forever if you don't sell at the right time or for enough
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
About a half hour before kickoff I gave Brandon Oliver for a 2015 1st rounder (likely late, team is now 5-1).
I'm a believer in Oliver and still have him in another league, but figured I had to accept the offer of a 1st for a guy I picked up on waivers three weeks ago and really isn't guaranteed anything.
If Oliver becomes a stud RB (seems possible), I'll have to live with a "good process, bad results" type of deal I guess. It also gives me 4 first round picks, so I'll have plenty of draft flexibilities and my team is still pretty good and sitting at 3-3.
About a half hour before kickoff I gave Brandon Oliver for a 2015 1st rounder (likely late, team is now 5-1).
I'm a believer in Oliver and still have him in another league, but figured I had to accept the offer of a 1st for a guy I picked up on waivers three weeks ago and really isn't guaranteed anything.
If Oliver becomes a stud RB (seems possible), I'll have to live with a "good process, bad results" type of deal I guess. It also gives me 4 first round picks, so I'll have plenty of draft flexibilities and my team is still pretty good and sitting at 3-3.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Big win for you. Like you, I like Oliver, but those types are flashes in the pan much more often than not. Making this kind of deal--sure, you'll miss out on Alfred Morrises here and there,but you'll get value for a lot of duds, too.
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One More Rep
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think it's close to fair market value, myself--right around 3 firsts (Adams, Lee, 1st). If I were rebuilding, I'd take it, assuming I did some homework first on other potential offers.
Good deal for both sides but I like the Moreno side
Wilson could be as good as Wheaton and Moreno might help a contender down the stretch
I could see dealing Jordy for that if I were rebuilding.
That 2016 1st is obviously further out than I would like but Adams, Oliver and Lee are all solid young adds for a rebuild
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