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Chargers | Kavell Conner signs Thu Mar 13, 02:49 PM
I'm happy with the Ghee signing. He's injury-prone, but good when healthy. I'm assuming they didn't give him much money so he's worth the risk. They still need to go CB in the 1st but the secondary should be much better this year (couldn't be worse could it?).
Good. Hopefully that means addressing DT is top priority, as it should be.
Brown Floyd and Royal are all replaceable
Floyd may never play football again. Brown has shown zero ability to be the #2 guy; he's more of a 4th/5th WR at this point.
The Chargers aren't a press man scheme so it's not that tough to find corners in the 2nd or 3rd. I actually really like Kyle Fuller. Good size and excels in coverage, but can play man occasionally. Verrett is probably the best cover corner in the draft, but his size is slightly concerning. Improving the pass rush still needs to be the priority, I just hope a pass rusher has a high enough grade to warrant a first round pick.
I realize I'm lower on Hardwick than most, and have been for awhile now.
I thought it was assumed they were going to release Clary in the summer to save themselves ~$4+mil but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I thought both Clary and Hardwick were scheduled to make $6+mil this season and both would count as ~$1.75mil in dead space against the cap if either of them were released.Just Win Baby said:
I'm all for building through the draft. The problem is the consensus at the end of the season was they needed two new starting OG's. Their C is retiring at the end of the year so it would be nice to have a guy to take over for him. The LT is in the last year of his contract and based on the ridiculous offer Saffold signed for you can't just assume some team won't offer him ridiculous money and you're left with no LT. There is absolutely no depth along the OL(as usual).bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
My fear is you are right, and that something is Wright as a #1 CB, Geathers as a starting NT in 2014 and Mike Williams taking over at LT when someone offers Dunlap way too much money, and a rookie as starting C in 2015 even if there aren't any pro ready rookies in the draft.
Good analysis of the Chargers WRs so far.
I don't think they are close now. For Keeper /Dynasty, Allen is much more valuable than Fitzgerald.
The problem with this is that there is only so much cap room to go around. BB just posted a rant saying the team needs major help at DL, CB, LB, OL, and to a lesser degree WR/KR/PR. News flash: they don't have the resources to solve all of these problems. IMO the team could have gone with a cheaper option than Brown in favor of some of the other needs.
Donald Brown counts $1.8mil against the cap this year. Over the entire course of the three year contract he's guaranteed $4mil. IMO having Brown as a starting RB under that contract in 2015/2016 is going to be the cheaper option in the long run.
It's a 1 year/$4M deal - that's 3% of the cap and allows them to ignore the RB position in the draft and focus on other areas. He'll also make just $3M a year in '15 and '16 so they do not need to worry about re-signing Mathews.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Ghee. I'm much less confident he'll be a solid #2 CB for SD than I was Derek Cox would easily be the #1 CB for SD last season, however. And we all know how that turned out.
I don't think their intention was to have everything in place after 2 drafts. It'll probably take one ore two more (at least). I imagine they're going to see what they land in the draft, then fill in the gaps for the 2014 season with scrapheap free agents. Apart from QB, RB, and to a lesser extent LB, TE and S they're in best player available mode for the draft. I hope they're favoring NT going in, but I wouldn't be upset if they went another direction if they find a deal has fallen into their laps.
You make a lot of assumptions about the O line, which to be frank just aren't true. Hardwick hasn't said he's retiring at the end of the year AT ALL in recent interviews. In fact he's said that he's having the best time playing football in his entire career. If he has another healthy season, I see him being brought back for another year. Dunlap had a phenomenal year for us last season. He fit perfectly into the new O line scheme that Coach D installed. I can easily see him being resigned as well. As for depth, we have Harris, Troutman, and now Orhnberger. All players that broke camp with the team last season and I suspect the same 8 guys will do so again. Not everyone likes the current players on the O line, but these are likely the players that they go to war with. Too many fans get caught up looking to the future, Telesco is looking to win THIS season. With that in mind, where exactly do you fit those 3-4 O lineman you want to draft? We have MAYBE 1 open roster spot for the O line if they decide to go with 9 lineman (McCoy regularly only had 7 active on gamedays).
no way they draft two WR just cant afford it with the glaring holes on D
It's not a need area but as deep as the WR pool is I'd like them to draft anyone who would be an upgrade over Floyd, Seyi and Brown.
This flies in the face of what Telesco did going after Steve Smith and Hakeem Nicks. Clearly he sees WR as a need for this team (as do most fans that realize Brown is crap, Floyd is unreliable, and Tutu is a special teamer).
Yeah, I never thought he was going anywhere til next year. He's been grossly overpaid for the past couple years and will continue to be this year. I was simply saying I would rather replace him with a 2nd year receiver that's familiar with the system than a rookie in '15. Who knows what the depth at WR will look like in next years draft?
I think taking four years to build up a team is out of date, even when you don't have a 32yo QB. The best two teams in the NFL are SEA and SF. It took one year for Harbaugh a year to make SF a legit SB contender, and Carroll two years to make SEA a legit SB contender. I'm not saying you have to go out and sign huge $ FA's but with wise cap management you can still address weaknesses with FA's. With FA I just don't think four years is a reasonable expectation any more.Gr00vus said:
I was thinking somebody closer to the 5th round like a Archer/Herron type closer to the 5th. If you got lucky and Ellington fell to the 4th he might also be a possibility.cstu said:
They've already hit big on two players - Fluker and Allen. The jury is still out on T'eo. Maybe even Tourek Williams develops into a starting OLB.
The jury is out on Steve Williams as well, but I thought he looked very good in the first two preseason games. Saying that he could have been the Chargers' best CB last year isn't really saying much, but nonetheless, it may well been true.
Let me be clear, they can be upgraded. My point is simply that it doesn't line up with what Telesco has done, nor does it line up with our current roster. Just look at the depth chart and where we have room. Clearly we are all trying to read TTs mind, by I do so by looking at his roster and evaluating his actions.
