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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)

A review of confederations:

CONCACAF:

IN - Mexico and Rich Coast

Controlling fate from ahead - USA

Basically out - Honduras

CONMEBOL

IN - Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Uruguay

Controlling fate from ahead - Ecuador

Controlling fate from behind - Uruguay

CAF

Controlling fate from ahead: Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Algeria

Need help - Ghana

OUT - Cameroon

AFC

Need a lot of help - Japan, South Korea, Iran

OUT - Australia

UEFA

IN - Netherlands, Belgium

Basically IN - France, Germany

Control fate from ahead - Italy

Mostly control fate but technically need a little help - Russia, Greece

Need Help - Switzerland

Need a lot of help - Portugal

OUT - Croatia, Spain, England, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Italy

-QG
Updated.

-QG

 
The sending off reminds me of Franck Ribery's red card in the CL semis a few years ago.

I was fairly new to soccer and had no idea how it was a red, but the announcers and more knowledgeable fans in here thought it was an obvious one. Going in high with the studs up like that, big no-no.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
No?

There are a lot of bad guys in soccer.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
I don't think the biting has anything to do with soccer.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
No?

There are a lot of bad guys in soccer.
True. Count mine as a...Hot. Sports. Take.

 
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I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about the running clock. It's like complaining about the clock stopping after an out of bounds play in American football.

It's hard to defend FIFA but I think a lot of what's perceived as their reactionary stance regarding rules changes is due to a desire to keep the rules consistent around the globe. The big leagues and tournaments have the ability to handle a second referee, goal line technology or a dedicated clock operator. The same isn't true of the Senegalese second division.
Does the ref keep an actual timer for stoppage, or does he just SWAG it at the end of regulation?

If he had some kind of start/stop timer in his pocket, then there would at least be the option of a device where the stadium or TV could "read" it and show the current stoppage accumulation.

If he just pulls a number out of his ### (which appears to be the case), then not so much.
:rolleyes:
very helpful. thanks.
Sorry, thought you were trolling. Every referee at every level wears a watch. He keeps track of accumulated stoppage time and communicates it to the fourth official so the number of minutes added gets posted to the board.
No, was really curious. I knew that a few years ago, the time wasn't even posted, so they just played on until there was a whistle. And now they announce it at the start of the added time, but I never knew how accurately the time was kept.

So is he making a note of the length of a stoppage and then keeping a running total in his head? My thought was that if there was an actual timer, then refs at all levels would use basically the same thing, and the difference at the WC would be the technology to make that visible to the crowd/viewers.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
Defense of Italians? Sure, its how they play the game. I don't have a big problem with it.

Suarez - no ####### clue what goes on in that head of his. Clearly he has more teeth than brains.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
if only there were links to players in other sports behaving badly. good thing it never happens.

and in no way a defense of suarez or the play of the Italians. #### them all.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
I don't think the biting has anything to do with soccer.
somebody check the rules please... no hands, check. biting?

 
Doubt you'll find many defenses for Suarez today. The traditional defense is that when he isn't biting some dude, or using racist language, or diving, or intentionally handling the ball (to be clear, I would have done the same against Ghana), he's an incredible player. Incredible players sometimes do stupid things, often to Italians (Zizzou, hey).

 
I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about the running clock. It's like complaining about the clock stopping after an out of bounds play in American football.

It's hard to defend FIFA but I think a lot of what's perceived as their reactionary stance regarding rules changes is due to a desire to keep the rules consistent around the globe. The big leagues and tournaments have the ability to handle a second referee, goal line technology or a dedicated clock operator. The same isn't true of the Senegalese second division.
Does the ref keep an actual timer for stoppage, or does he just SWAG it at the end of regulation?

If he had some kind of start/stop timer in his pocket, then there would at least be the option of a device where the stadium or TV could "read" it and show the current stoppage accumulation.

If he just pulls a number out of his ### (which appears to be the case), then not so much.
:rolleyes:
very helpful. thanks.
Sorry, thought you were trolling. Every referee at every level wears a watch. He keeps track of accumulated stoppage time and communicates it to the fourth official so the number of minutes added gets posted to the board.
No, was really curious. I knew that a few years ago, the time wasn't even posted, so they just played on until there was a whistle. And now they announce it at the start of the added time, but I never knew how accurately the time was kept.

So is he making a note of the length of a stoppage and then keeping a running total in his head? My thought was that if there was an actual timer, then refs at all levels would use basically the same thing, and the difference at the WC would be the technology to make that visible to the crowd/viewers.
that is a great idea.

which is why it will never, ever work [/FIFA]

 
ESPN 3 will be carrying the post-match pressers. Should be interesting. Guessing Suarez is not one of the Uruguayan players made available.

 
The sending off reminds me of Franck Ribery's red card in the CL semis a few years ago.

I was fairly new to soccer and had no idea how it was a red, but the announcers and more knowledgeable fans in here thought it was an obvious one. Going in high with the studs up like that, big no-no.
I'd say the one today looked worse, even if the potential for damage on replay looked less.
I disagree, Ribery's looked worse IMO. not the first time we've disagreed, wont be the last lol :boxing:

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
if only there were links to players in other sports behaving badly. good thing it never happens.

and in no way a defense of suarez or the play of the Italians. #### them all.
It makes me think of Todd Bertuzzi in hockey. That's why I know I should check my head.

 
Updated

Confederation Records So Far*: W-D-L (points per game)

South America: 11-1-3 (2.3)

Africa: 3-2-6 (1.0)

UEFA: 7-5-9 (1.2)

Concacaf: 5-3-2 (1.8)

Asia: 0-3-6 (0.3)

 
The sending off reminds me of Franck Ribery's red card in the CL semis a few years ago.

I was fairly new to soccer and had no idea how it was a red, but the announcers and more knowledgeable fans in here thought it was an obvious one. Going in high with the studs up like that, big no-no.
I'd say the one today looked worse, even if the potential for damage on replay looked less.
I disagree, Ribery's looked worse IMO. not the first time we've disagreed, wont be the last lol :boxing:
I only say it because the studs were higher up the leg today.

But I agree that Ribery's was actually worse and certainly didn't look good

 
Does FIFA have the power to ban at the club level for something that happens with a National Team?
this. ?
I don't believe so, but I'm not 100% sure. It'll likely be an international ban
including friendlies too? not much of a ban if so.

needs to do some community service for this nonsense- Operation Smile somewhere in... I'd say Africa, but Adriatic Europe is apparently more apt.

 
I hope I'm not trolling, and I grew up playing soccer with some absolute studs. And played high school with them. Like guys who scored in NCAA championship games against Reyna and such. This garbage is why I think soccer doesn't make any inroads into American culture. That game was entertaining as hell, but an absolute sporting joke. I'll still watch, and be into it, but can anyone give an honest sporting defense of the Italians and Suarez?
No?

There are a lot of bad guys in soccer.
True. Count mine as a...Hot. Sports. Take.
I don't think you were trolling at all.

I have no defense but I think it is misguided to say soccer will never catch on because of this.

First, soccer has already caught on. The notion that it does not exist outside of the WC is blatantly wrong in every way

Second, take a read some time of what American football player do to each other at the bottom of a fumble pile

There are bad guys and nuts in all sports. I don't think you need a run down of the criminals who have pulled on NFL jerseys over the years.

 

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