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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)

Belgium are battling multiple issues. They could be missing up to 4 players, two of which are starting defenders, and 2 back up defenders.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2673309/Vincent-Kompany-Thomas-Vermaelen-doubtful-Belgiums-World-Cup-2014-16-clash-against-USA.html

Belgium are hoping for a quick recovery over the weekend from first choice defenders Vincent Kompany and Thomas Vermaelen as both remain doubtful for their World Cup match against the United States on Tuesday.

Anthony Vanden Borre was ruled out of the tournament on Friday after a scan revealed a crack in his fibula while back-up defender Laurent Ciman is also on the injury list as the team prepare for their last 16 match in Salvador.

Vanden Borre will be out for at least six weeks, said coach Marc Wilmots via Twitter. His fellow right back Ciman has a groin strain.

 
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So over the first 3 games, who is your best US player?

Besler has been extremely solid for 2.5 games

Jones was fantastic in his first two, and just kind of average today

DMB has been solid from the moment Atsu got subbed

Beckerman has been very solid for 3 games with today arguably his best

Anyone else?
This is how I know I don't know soccer, I would have thought Dempsey (2 goals), but he's not even on your list.
Goals are great, but often the result of being at the right place at the right time. A good forward may do very little for 80+ minutes of the game. Think of a goal line back in football or a WR that catches 3 passes for 30 yards and 2 TDs. He may have scored the most points, but wasn't as valuable as the possession WR that caught 7 for 120 or the corner that didn't record a single stat because he just shut his man down the whole game and never got tested.
Horrible analogy.

 
@Cparaskevas: #Greece players have turned down their #WorldCup bonuses. Asked Greek PM for money to be spent on new training facilities for national team.

 
For people wondering about the US bonus structure, I don't know what it is for 2014, but I do know the details for 2010.

If the US went out at the group stage with 0 points, each player would receive $78,477

For every point earned in the group stage, the team would split $180k (that would break down to $31k per player this year if distributed evenly)

Advancing from the group stage nets the squad $2.85m (or $124k per player if distributed evenly)

Advancing to quarters would be $3.4m to squad

This might not be a ton of money for Bradley, Dempsey, Howard etc, but for players like Zusi, Besler, Davis, Beckerman etc, it is great.

 
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To put this in perspective... here are the teams that have advanced in at least three of the last four World Cups:

Brazil - 4
Germany - 4
Mexico - 4

Argentina - 3
England -3
Netherlands - 3
Spain - 3
United States - 3

Yeah -- it's hard.
This post needs a little more love.

 
For those that are new to this whole thing, you may notice the stars above different countries' crests during the games, or in the posters in this link.

Brazil - 5, Italy, Uruguay - 4, Germany - 3, Argentina - 2, England, France, Spain - 1.

These stars represent each World Cup championship for that country.

I've been puzzled as to why Uruguay has 4 since they've only won 2 World Cups. Looking around Wiki I see that starting in 1920 FIFA recognized the Olympic champion as the world champion until they started their own tournament in 1932. Uruguay won the Olympics in 1924 and 1928 and therefore display 4 stars. Who won in 1920? Belgium, yet they don't display a star. I haven't been able to learn why. Anyone know?

OK, I know using "only" sounds stupid, as if they are easy to win.

 
Jeff Carlisle's 5 questions

1. Altidore - what to do with him. Carlisle - Sit him. Sinn - start him if he is healthy, do not use him at all if you are not comfortable starting him. He would be a bad substitute, in the event he injures himself again - so either start him, or sit him.

2. Two forwards or one? Carlisle - thinks Dempsey will be healed enough to be more effective as a lone striker. Sinn - we need 2 strikers, or at least another creative player up front if we want to score here. Bradley has no touch right now, so we need help up top in keeping the ball, and doing something with it. Either let Deuce play under Wondolowski, or let Bacon play under Deuce.

3. Gonzalez or Cameron? Carlisle - Gonzalez. Sinn - Gonzalez

4. Bedoya or Davis? Carlisle - Bedoya. Sinn - this should not even be a question, in fact I would play Mix ahead of Davis also.

5. Bradley question - Carlisle - he is asking the wrong question imo - its not about sitting Bradley - that is not in the equation. The only question here is whether we are better off with Bradley up front, and Beckerman as a DM, or Mix up front and Bradely as the DM/holding MF. I know for most, with the way Beckerman has been playing, this is a non-question also. But, for me, its a closer question in that we are putting so much pressure on our defenders, and running ourselves ragged, by not being able to hold the ball long enough in the midfield. I think Mix would help that - at the expense of not being as effective as Bradley in pressuring the ball.

 
Jeff Carlisle's 5 questions

1. Altidore - what to do with him. Carlisle - Sit him. Sinn - start him if he is healthy, do not use him at all if you are not comfortable starting him. He would be a bad substitute, in the event he injures himself again - so either start him, or sit him. Agree

2. Two forwards or one? Carlisle - thinks Dempsey will be healed enough to be more effective as a lone striker. Sinn - we need 2 strikers, or at least another creative player up front if we want to score here. Bradley has no touch right now, so we need help up top in keeping the ball, and doing something with it. Either let Deuce play under Wondolowski, or let Bacon play under Deuce. Disagree -- we've been rock solid defensively with the 4-3-2-1/4-2-3-1/4-5-1 ... and great on the counter overall. Would prefer to keep that formation for the rest of the tournament.

3. Gonzalez or Cameron? Carlisle - Gonzalez. Sinn - Gonzalez Can see the case for Gonzo give how good he was vs Germany and that Belgium is a big team too. But I think I'd rather have the guy whose big mistake was atypical than the guy whose lack of a big mistake was atypical. Lean Cameron on this one.

4. Bedoya or Davis? Carlisle - Bedoya. Sinn - this should not even be a question, in fact I would play Mix ahead of Davis also. Agree 100%. Davis needs to be firmly planted to the bench at this point. Davis is Klinsmann's lone mistake so far IMO.

5. Bradley question - Carlisle - he is asking the wrong question imo - its not about sitting Bradley - that is not in the equation. The only question here is whether we are better off with Bradley up front, and Beckerman as a DM, or Mix up front and Bradely as the DM/holding MF. I know for most, with the way Beckerman has been playing, this is a non-question also. But, for me, its a closer question in that we are putting so much pressure on our defenders, and running ourselves ragged, by not being able to hold the ball long enough in the midfield. I think Mix would help that - at the expense of not being as effective as Bradley in pressuring the ball. Sitting Bradley is ridiculous. And I'll take my chances with the formation/personnel we've been using.
 
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Becks Bradley

Zusi Mix Jones

Dempsey
I think this would work...I do wish Mix was a bit more tenacious. But I think this is our best ability to move the ball through the midfield.

It does seem that we have abandoned the 4-2-3-1 though

 
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Becks Bradley

Zusi Mix Jones

Dempsey
Seems "loose" to me. I definitely don't trust Jones in front of Beasley and Mix's lack of steel/grit (as Sinn points out) compounds it. Also, throwing Mix into the #10 role for the first time in a big game is a little reckless for my taste.

 
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Becks Bradley

Zusi Mix Jones

Dempsey
Seems "loose" to me. I definitely don't trust Jones in front of Beasley and Mix's lack of steel/grit (as Sinn points out) compounds it. Also, throwing Mix into the #10 role for the first time in a big game is a little reckless for my taste.
Not a fan of it either, don't want Hazard running on the same side as Beckerman/Zusi. Rather have Bradley more central to help cover there. Beckerman's best role is central with help on both sides

 
Agree 100%. Davis needs to be firmly planted to the bench at this point. Davis is Klinsmann's lone mistake so far IMO.
for me the biggest mistake was not bringing either EJ or Boyd as a back up for Jozy.

Losing Jozy is causing Bradley to run his nuts off which is likely affecting the rest of his game because we know Dempsey activity level defensively is as low as possible and Bradley has the responsibility to put all the pressure on the opposing teams holding midfielders and center backs.

 
Becks Bradley

Zusi Mix Jones

Dempsey
Seems "loose" to me. I definitely don't trust Jones in front of Beasley and Mix's lack of steel/grit (as Sinn points out) compounds it. Also, throwing Mix into the #10 role for the first time in a big game is a little reckless for my taste.
If we go with an extra forward (like when Jozy is back) then Jones will go wide at the expense of Bedoya or Zusi.

 
I can fix the stupid Mexican chant...stewards in the Mexican fan section eject one row of fans every time the chant is made. :riot:

 
The official US Soccer logo has 3 stars above the soccer ball on it's crest. Wonder why that is?

http://archive.wusa9.com/sports/article/234172/25/US-Soccer-Team-Plays-Canada-In-January-In-Houston
True, and per wiki:The United States Soccer Federationhas 3 stars inside its badge, which is worn by all U.S. national teams, including the senior men's and women's teams. These stars are taken to recall the flag of the United States, and are not intended to symbolize championship titles.

If you look for images of the Women's team you will see two stars above the crest that represents their two titles.

 
Shoot outs might be odd, but they are exciting. It's high drama. There are always things in every sport that break up the team element or deviate from the normal style of play: hockey shoot outs, football field goals or basketball free throws. All of those can decide outcomes.
Yeah, Hack-a-Shaq, anyone?

 
Jeff Carlisle's 5 questions

1. Altidore - what to do with him. Carlisle - Sit him. Sinn - start him if he is healthy, do not use him at all if you are not comfortable starting him. He would be a bad substitute, in the event he injures himself again - so either start him, or sit him.
I'm with Carlisle. Even if you think Jozy may be good to go. The risk that he goes out there and pulls a Diego Costa is too great. Use him as a sub if they need him.

 
Jeff Carlisle's 5 questions

1. Altidore - what to do with him. Carlisle - Sit him. Sinn - start him if he is healthy, do not use him at all if you are not comfortable starting him. He would be a bad substitute, in the event he injures himself again - so either start him, or sit him.
I'm with Carlisle. Even if you think Jozy may be good to go. The risk that he goes out there and pulls a Diego Costa is too great. Use him as a sub if they need him.
If he is healthy enough to be used as a Sub, he is healthy enough to start. If he is not healthy enough to start, he is too big a risk to use a sub on.

 
Jeff Carlisle's 5 questions

1. Altidore - what to do with him. Carlisle - Sit him. Sinn - start him if he is healthy, do not use him at all if you are not comfortable starting him. He would be a bad substitute, in the event he injures himself again - so either start him, or sit him.
I'm with Carlisle. Even if you think Jozy may be good to go. The risk that he goes out there and pulls a Diego Costa is too great. Use him as a sub if they need him.
If he is healthy enough to be used as a Sub, he is healthy enough to start. If he is not healthy enough to start, he is too big a risk to use a sub on.
Well, that's the opposite of what I think. So you're wrong.

 

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