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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)
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gianmarco
Footballguy
I like it. Really need Bradley to have a much better game, though, or it could get really ugly.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I'm sure that's a FIFA standard. The arms folded and amazing-race style head turn is probably offensive to zero cultures.
-QG
More like Jones and Beckerman - CR7 will be all across the front imo, it will take some double-teaming, and a hard tackle or 2. 0% chance the US makes it out of the game with no yellows.
Native
Footballguy
Grant Park looks packed
Given the game time, and number of outdoor viewing areas across the country, this could be the most watched US game.
Hope the US sends the crowds home happy.
#Ibelieve
Given the game time, and number of outdoor viewing areas across the country, this could be the most watched US game.
Hope the US sends the crowds home happy.
#Ibelieve
Native
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Like the lineup... hope Clintinho Dempsao is up for it.
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I wonder if all of the people pouring money on the US know anything about any of these guys other than CR7?
It probably will be the most watched soccer game in US history, which will make it the most important for the future of soccer. Either the US loses and potentially common fan just sees the US as hapless losers in soccer or there is a win or tie and more people get excited about soccer.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
I realize this is
, but funny enough Bill Paxton (Chet) has a pretty good role in Edge of Tomorrow, which I saw yesterday. Great flick.Andy would know better, but yes, I think 1 tv = 1 viewer, or close to it. They may have a formula that puts it slightly higher than 1 tv = 1 person, but not enough to account for the various places where 1000's of people will be viewing.Do all those people count as 'one' viewer in the Nielson ratings?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
He has a huge job today..
It is disconcerting that our most creative player has to dual role as a target guy.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The highest was 24.3 million for the WC2010 Final on ABC. This game being on ESPN will obviously limit the size more than being on ABC would have.
I still expect a huge audience though but I don't know if it can reach those numbers with the English portion on ESPN. It could very well be the second most watched game of the entire tournament outside of the final.
Raylove
Footballguy
pretty sure Grant Park doesn't have a Nielsen box on their super size tv screen
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June 22 is already an important holiday.....No Panty Day!. Don't even try to change that.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Nielsen measures two things (ignoring the often misunderstood share number)Andy would know better, but yes, I think 1 tv = 1 viewer, or close to it. They may have a formula that puts it slightly higher than 1 tv = 1 person, but not enough to account for the various places where 1000's of people will be viewing.Do all those people count as 'one' viewer in the Nielson ratings?
1) # of TV households (rating)
2) # of viewers (viewership)
There is no hard formula for converting households to tv viewers. They track how many people watch each game (it is a variable that certain families have to enter in the box)
Sports in general gets the short end of the stick because it is the only real item that people gather to watch and Nielsen has never really figured that out too well but it is across all sports so soccer is not picked out.
That being said, the various huge outdoor viewing parties will be in the noise if this comes in the 15-20 million viewer range though.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Group H scenarios:
Belgium are through and win the group with
1) a win or tie
or 2) an Algeria loss or tie
Algeria are through with
1) a win (they win the group with a win and a Belgium loss)
or 2) a tie and a South Korea tie or loss
or 3) a tie and a South Korea win by exactly 1 or 2
or 4) a tie and a South Korea win by exactly 3 South Korea fails to score at least 3 more goals than Algeria
Algeria are out with a loss
Russia are through with
1) a win and a South Korea tie or loss
or 2) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is the same or less than Russia's margin of victory
or 3) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by at least 3 goals
or 4) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by exactly 2 goals and Russia wins the drawing of lots
Russia is out with a tie or loss
South Korea are through with
1) a win by 4 and an Algerian tie
or 2) a win by 3 and an Algerian tie and South Korea outscores Algeria by at least 3 goals
or 3) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is at least 2 more than Russia's margin of victory
or 4) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia fails to outscore South Korea by more than 1 goal
or 5) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by exactly 2 goals and South Korea wins the drawing of lots.
South Korea is out with a loss or tie and by the looks of things at worst they have to win by 2 goals in any scenario and in most cases they need to win by 3 just to have a chance.
-QG
Belgium are through and win the group with
1) a win or tie
or 2) an Algeria loss or tie
Algeria are through with
1) a win (they win the group with a win and a Belgium loss)
or 2) a tie and a South Korea tie or loss
or 3) a tie and a South Korea win by exactly 1 or 2
or 4) a tie and a South Korea win by exactly 3 South Korea fails to score at least 3 more goals than Algeria
Algeria are out with a loss
Russia are through with
1) a win and a South Korea tie or loss
or 2) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is the same or less than Russia's margin of victory
or 3) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by at least 3 goals
or 4) a win and a South Korea win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by exactly 2 goals and Russia wins the drawing of lots
Russia is out with a tie or loss
South Korea are through with
1) a win by 4 and an Algerian tie
or 2) a win by 3 and an Algerian tie and South Korea outscores Algeria by at least 3 goals
or 3) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is at least 2 more than Russia's margin of victory
or 4) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia fails to outscore South Korea by more than 1 goal
or 5) a win and a Russian win and South Korea's margin of victory is exactly 1 more than Russia's margin of victory and Russia outscores South Korea by exactly 2 goals and South Korea wins the drawing of lots.
South Korea is out with a loss or tie and by the looks of things at worst they have to win by 2 goals in any scenario and in most cases they need to win by 3 just to have a chance.
-QG
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
Highly doubt it.
But if i'm a betting person and I see three injury forced replacements, I might take a look...
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Knowing how dirty some of the betting syndicates are, it wouldn't shock me. Heck maybe they know CR7 is really banged up and wknt be able to do anything or maybe they paid off the ref.
Norman Paperman
Footballguy
Was that a bug in Besler's hair?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Do we all agree it's been a successful World Cup with a point tonight no matter what happens against Germany?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Did you see the giant moths/cicadas on Jeremy Schapp while he was reporting from the stadium earlier?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I guess it all depends on your viewpoint. If you expected the US to make the quarter finals, no that would not be great.
For those of us just happy to be alive by Game 3, I would argue 4 points from this group is more impressive than 5 points from the poor group in 2010.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What's the weather like in Manaus?
The Gator
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Interesting that Zusi is on the left and Bedoya's on the right. Anyone want to take a shot at what that means?
Also, these scenes from around the US are crazy.
Also, these scenes from around the US are crazy.
Norman Paperman
Footballguy
Norman Paperman
Footballguy
Bedoya = more defensive - cover back on CR7
Zusi = more offensive
I suspect they will switch at least once in the game.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
20 million sounds pretty accurate.
It should break both the ESPN and Univision records that were set for the Ghana game.
We knew from the second the schedule came out that this was going to be one of the most watched games of the entire WC.
The Gator
Footballguy
My guess...Bedoya tacks back better than Zusi. That gives Fab support against Cristiano. Cristiano and Nani will switch sides, but the majority of the time CR7 will be on the left.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am so queasy again. :(
