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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)

Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
The Z Machine said:
The Gator said:
Going to need a new GOAT poll if Messi keeps this up
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He wins the trophy and he's in the top 3 GOAT convo, with the posibility that he takes it all. He reaches the Final and loses, and he likely ends up #3 GOAT IMO.
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In context he's already had the greatest club career ever. (yes, eat me DiStefano). I think the WC gives him the belt. Pele can really only get credit for two.
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Screw you, buddy!

BTW, I am a very distant cousin of the great Alfredo. Part of the family went to Argentina, part came here in the 1890's. Yeah, but Messi may be even greater than Alfredo.

 
Slapdash said:
The Gator said:
Slapdash said:
The Gator said:
Slapdash said:
Slapdash said:
guru_007 said:
I like the previews :thumbup:

I fancy Germany a good bit better than Scoob, though - and I am also a fan. I think the fact they may not have a true super star striker on the roster will not matter all that much, as they'll be able to form attack in waves and be very difficult to defend. If the German team was at all concerned, I think they would have probably rostered Gomez at the very least.....but to be completely honest, I haven't looked that deep into any of the squads just yet (other than England) as rosters were just recently announced.

I also agree that England is being overlooked, but I guess I'm generally high on England. I think that national teams that play predominantly in the same league (better yet, same few clubs) have a distinct advantage as they are used to style of play and training comes around quicker. But, England could flame out spectacularly just as easily. The fact they opted for younger guys instead of the old guard is a step in the right direction for them.

Oh, and Argentina in my eyes is the most overrated team in the tournament. Besides the fact they piece meal that team together from leagues all over the world, they left the heart and soul of the team off the roster, Messi tends to wilt under world pressure, and they have a great front line, not much else. Zabaleta's form has not been as great this year as years past, I don't like much of that midfield outside of diMaria and maybe Rickey.

(full disclosure, I root all out against two sides in this tournament, Argentina and Spain)
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:lmao:
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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At the time of that post, he was correct :shrug:
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No, he wasn't.
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:lmao: ok, :homer:
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Maybe you didn't watch Messi at the last WC or playing in the world's top club competition over the years. :shrug:
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Nobody's every questioned his club playing I don't think. World stage = world cup imo, and all though he didn't stink it up in 2010, he didn't play like he did for Barcelona or do what he's doing now and dominating.

With the way he's going, it's not going to be a debate anymore anyway :lol:

 
Agree with the conversation- he'd done enough at club level, done lots for country- but winning the WC, especially continuing his form so far... puts Messi with Pele and Madonna. And even Miley Cyrus.

 
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-england-italy-campaigning-suarez-lawyer-says-134130457--sow.html

This is fantastic.

World Cup - Suarez 'victim of European conspiracy', lawyer says Luis Suarez's lawyer believes there is a European campaign against the controversial striker, who on Wednesday was preparing his defence after being accused of biting an Italy defender during Uruguay's 1-0 win at the World Cup."We don't have any doubts that this has happened because it's Suarez and secondly because Italy was eliminated," said UruguayFA board member Alejandro Balbi, who is also Suarez's lawyer.

"There's a lot of pressure from England and Italy," Balbi told local Uruguayan radio. "We're polishing off a defence argument."

FIFA is investigating the incident during Tuesday's Group D match in Natal which has made headlines around the world. Uruguay's win took them through to the last 16 where they will face Colombia on Saturday.

Balbi and FA boss Wilmar Valdez were travelling to Rio de Janeiro on Wednesday morning to present their case. Valdez told local radio that Suarez would not be speaking at the meeting.

Suarez, twice previously banned for biting, could be hit with another lengthy suspension despite escaping punishment during the match for the incident involving Italy defender Giorgio Chiellini.

"There is a possibility that they ban him, because there are precedents, but we're convinced that it was an absolutely casual play, because if Chiellini can show a scratch on one shoulder, Suarez can show a bruised and almost shut eye," Balbi said.

"If every player starts showing the injuries he suffers and they open inquiries for them everything will be way too complicated in the future. We're going to use all the arguments possible so that Luis gets out in the best possible way."

His argument echoes the sentiment in much of Uruguay, which is jubilant at the team's last-gasp victory and largely backs their key player.

The Liverpool forward's lethal finishing is far more important than his straying teeth, say many in the small, sleepy agricultural country vying for a third World Cup triumph.

 
Updated

Confederation Records So Far*: W-D-L (points per game)

South America: 13-1-3 (2.4)

Africa: 3-2-8 (0.8)

UEFA: 9-5-9 (1.4)

Concacaf: 5-3-2 (1.8)

Asia: 0-3-8 (0.3)

 
No matter what happens going forward the US will finish ahead of Bosnia, Iran, Italy, England, Ivory Coast, Japan, Spain, Australia, Croatia, Cameroon, and one of Ghana/Portugal

 
B Maverick said:
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-england-italy-campaigning-suarez-lawyer-says-134130457--sow.html

This is fantastic.

World Cup - Suarez 'victim of European conspiracy', lawyer says Luis Suarez's lawyer believes there is a European campaign against the controversial striker, who on Wednesday was preparing his defence after being accused of biting an Italy defender during Uruguay's 1-0 win at the World Cup."We don't have any doubts that this has happened because it's Suarez and secondly because Italy was eliminated," said UruguayFA board member Alejandro Balbi, who is also Suarez's lawyer.

"There's a lot of pressure from England and Italy," Balbi told local Uruguayan radio. "We're polishing off a defence argument."

FIFA is investigating the incident during Tuesday's Group D match in Natal which has made headlines around the world. Uruguay's win took them through to the last 16 where they will face Colombia on Saturday.

Balbi and FA boss Wilmar Valdez were travelling to Rio de Janeiro on Wednesday morning to present their case. Valdez told local radio that Suarez would not be speaking at the meeting.

Suarez, twice previously banned for biting, could be hit with another lengthy suspension despite escaping punishment during the match for the incident involving Italy defender Giorgio Chiellini.

"There is a possibility that they ban him, because there are precedents, but we're convinced that it was an absolutely casual play, because if Chiellini can show a scratch on one shoulder, Suarez can show a bruised and almost shut eye," Balbi said.

"If every player starts showing the injuries he suffers and they open inquiries for them everything will be way too complicated in the future. We're going to use all the arguments possible so that Luis gets out in the best possible way."

His argument echoes the sentiment in much of Uruguay, which is jubilant at the team's last-gasp victory and largely backs their key player.

The Liverpool forward's lethal finishing is far more important than his straying teeth, say many in the small, sleepy agricultural country vying for a third World Cup triumph.
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####### lawyers.

 
El Floppo said:
B Maverick said:
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-england-italy-campaigning-suarez-lawyer-says-134130457--sow.html

This is fantastic.

World Cup - Suarez 'victim of European conspiracy', lawyer says Luis Suarez's lawyer believes there is a European campaign against the controversial striker, who on Wednesday was preparing his defence after being accused of biting an Italy defender during Uruguay's 1-0 win at the World Cup."We don't have any doubts that this has happened because it's Suarez and secondly because Italy was eliminated," said UruguayFA board member Alejandro Balbi, who is also Suarez's lawyer.

"There's a lot of pressure from England and Italy," Balbi told local Uruguayan radio. "We're polishing off a defence argument."

FIFA is investigating the incident during Tuesday's Group D match in Natal which has made headlines around the world. Uruguay's win took them through to the last 16 where they will face Colombia on Saturday.

Balbi and FA boss Wilmar Valdez were travelling to Rio de Janeiro on Wednesday morning to present their case. Valdez told local radio that Suarez would not be speaking at the meeting.

Suarez, twice previously banned for biting, could be hit with another lengthy suspension despite escaping punishment during the match for the incident involving Italy defender Giorgio Chiellini.

"There is a possibility that they ban him, because there are precedents, but we're convinced that it was an absolutely casual play, because if Chiellini can show a scratch on one shoulder, Suarez can show a bruised and almost shut eye," Balbi said.

"If every player starts showing the injuries he suffers and they open inquiries for them everything will be way too complicated in the future. We're going to use all the arguments possible so that Luis gets out in the best possible way."

His argument echoes the sentiment in much of Uruguay, which is jubilant at the team's last-gasp victory and largely backs their key player.

The Liverpool forward's lethal finishing is far more important than his straying teeth, say many in the small, sleepy agricultural country vying for a third World Cup triumph.
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####### lawyers.
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They always make a meal of it; sometimes justified, as it is in this case.

 
Concacaf has played 10 games and accumulated 18 points

Asia and Africa have played a combined 24 games and accumulated 14 points.

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Yikes :)

 
NewlyRetired said:
Concacaf has played 10 games and accumulated 18 points

Asia and Africa have played a combined 24 games and accumulated 14 points.

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Yikes :)
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Pele is going to have to live to 100 for his prediction of an African WC champ in his lifetime to come true.

 
ok... announcers just said- if results hold, Swiss goes through w France.

5 goal swing needed for Honduras to go through (France win/ Honduras win)

 
El Floppo said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
El Floppo said:
ok- France is through, then what?
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France would get Nigeria in Round 2.

Assuming Germany win the US's group and gets through Russia/Algeria in Round 2, France would lurk in the quarterfinals.
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Wonder strike for Switzerland, btw.

but sorry- I meant what else happens in this group?
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Swiss and Ecudaor are both on 3 points. Ecudor has better GD right now (0, to -2). So the Swiss need a better result. Right now, it would be France 1, and Switzerland 2.

 
Theoretically France could still go out, but they'd have to lose by at least 3 and Switzerland would have up to make up 9 goals on them.

Ecuador probably goes through if they have an equal result to Switzerland, although the Swiss could still make up the goal difference.

Switzerland needs a better result than Ecuador.

Honduras needs a win, a France win, and a lot of goal difference help.

 
We talked before about how many of the stars have shown up big time in the first round.

What about the other end? What big name players did not?

I give CRo a pass because he is obviously not healthy and even then still found a dagger in his back pocket for the US.

Not that he played poorly, but I thought Ya Ya might have had one of the those "everyone get on my back" tournaments, and that did not really materialize.

 
NewlyRetired said:
We talked before about how many of the stars have shown up big time in the first round.

What about the other end? What big name players did not?

I give CRo a pass because he is obviously not healthy and even then still found a dagger in his back pocket for the US.

Not that he played poorly, but I thought Ya Ya might have had one of the those "everyone get on my back" tournaments, and that did not really materialize.
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Costa.

 
NewlyRetired said:
We talked before about how many of the stars have shown up big time in the first round.

What about the other end? What big name players did not?

I give CRo a pass because he is obviously not healthy and even then still found a dagger in his back pocket for the US.

Not that he played poorly, but I thought Ya Ya might have had one of the those "everyone get on my back" tournaments, and that did not really materialize.
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Rooney and Balotelli can both point to moments, but I don't think either can really be happy with their tournaments. Aguero looks awful (and Di Maria hasn't been as sharp as I think everyone thought he would be on form).

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
NewlyRetired said:
We talked before about how many of the stars have shown up big time in the first round.

What about the other end? What big name players did not?

I give CRo a pass because he is obviously not healthy and even then still found a dagger in his back pocket for the US.

Not that he played poorly, but I thought Ya Ya might have had one of the those "everyone get on my back" tournaments, and that did not really materialize.
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Rooney and Balotelli can both point to moments, but I don't think either can really be happy with their tournaments. Aguero looks awful (and Di Maria hasn't been as sharp as I think everyone thought he would be on form).
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Seems like all of the RM stars have had sub-par performances. Who was here from Atletico besides Costa?

 
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