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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Hoos First said:
Is there really any chance they would cancel it?
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From what I understand it would take considerable rain to continue to fall to postpone the match. I don't think canceling outright is even in the discussion.

What I'm hearing/reading is unless there is an inch or two of standing water on the pitch, the match will be played.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Is there really evidence that heavy rains decrease goal scoring? Seems like it would just make the games sloppier.
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I don't have empirical studies, but think of the snow game against Costa Rica. You can get a scrappy goal, but slick build up or even quick counters become almost impossible. Both teams are reduced to playing Route 1 style.
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Right, I agree it alters the style of play, I'm just questioning whether it decreases goal scoring.

 
I do think that anything that makes the outcome more uncertain increases the chances that Germany plays to reduce the variability. IOW, rain, Ghanaian players flipping out, etc might be good for the US in a very small way.

 
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.

 
Norman Paperman said:
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.
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I don't think you can pull Beckerman/Bradley/Jones or the defenders. Maybe you have them sit deeper so they don't have to expend as much energy, but those guys would be hard to replace given Germany's strength in midfield.

 
Norman Paperman said:
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.
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Beckerman has to play. We might be able to get away with less defensive wingers because Ozil is a very different type of threat than Ronaldo or Atsu.

 
http://online.wsj.com/articles/world-cup-how-to-skip-work-to-watch-u-s-vs-germany-1403706187?mod=trending_now_1

World Cup: How to Skip Work to Watch U.S. vs. Germany Step-by-Step Instructions for Fleeing the Office and Taking in the All-Important Match







1. By now you probably know that Thursday, June 26, is a day off throughout the United States to watch the U.S. men's national soccer team play Germany at noon Eastern in a massively important World Cup contest.





2. This emergency bill was signed into law early this morning by U.S. Prime Minister Ryan Seacrest.

3. Need the time off from your job to watch the game? Simply cut this story out of the print edition of today's newspaper with a pair of scissors—or, if you don't know what the print edition of a newspaper is, pull it up to your smartphone or tablet. Show it to your boss, and the boss must reward you with Thursday off. Trust me on this. It's the law.

4. (And you might as well take Friday and make it a four-day weekend.)

5. Before watching the game, it's essential to have as American a breakfast as possible. This is left to you: Denny's or Waffle House. Just to be safe, you may as well go to both Denny's and Waffle House, but you might need to lie down in the back of the car later.

6. If you are a big fan of the USMNT, you need no introduction to the team, or the stakes against Germany. If you are new to following the USMNT, welcome, and here's a primer: This has been a thrilling run by the U.S. men's national team. Plunged into the "Group of Death," the most competitive bracket in the tournament, the USMNT has exceeded expectations already—beating rival Ghana and playing Portugal to a tie. Now the Americans have a chance to advance in the World Cup with a win or a tie against Germany, one of the planet's top clubs.

7. If that was too long to read, just watch the team in red, white, and blue, and scream for as long as possible.

8. Most U.S.A. place to watch the USMNT? That's easy. A bald eagle's nest.

9. If you get stuck at work—and sorry—it is totally fine to watch the game at your boss's desk with a 12-pack and a giant bucket of Buffalo wings.

10. If this is your first time watching soccer, you will be shocked how neat and compact a viewing experience this is. A soccer match seldom lasts longer than two hours. Two hours! That's how long it takes to play the last six minutes of an NBA playoff game.

11. Do not watch the game by yourself. Come on. Watching TV by yourself is for random nights when you want to binge-watch "House Hunters" while eating from a bag of frozen waffles.

12. If you are going to a local bar to watch the game, it's important to find out about the TV situation before you go. If the TV is not as big as Connecticut, find another bar.

13. This is a hugely critical high-demand game and you need to get to the bar or restaurant very early in order to secure a prime seat. I suggest getting there in April 2012.

14. Cocktails at noon? Cocktails at noon.

15. Do not be afraid to ask questions. Questions are good! How many minutes are in a half? What is stoppage time? How come there are no commercials? Will LeBron really go to the Cavaliers? Did Pearl Jam really sing "Let It Go" in a concert the other night?

16. With about 10 minutes left to play, just for a laugh, take the restaurant's remote and change the TV over to "Judge Judy." Everyone will think this is hilarious especially the guys in front in the face paint.

17. No Cristiano Ronaldo jokes. Too soon.

18. Many established soccer countries have songs and chants, but the U.S. is catching up. There's the "I Believe That We Will Win" chant, of course, which is infectious and fun. If you have run out of things to chant or sing, simply sing side one of Van Halen's "1984" while riding on the back of a Harley-Davidson.

19. No, biting does not happen in every game. That is only for special occasions.

20. Stay for the final 20 seconds of the game. Please. It's important. Stuff happens.

21. Can you believe the U.S. is on the verge of escaping the Group of Death and this country has World Cup fever? How great is this?



 
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they won't postpone the match, the field will be fine to play on... the fans may not be able to get there, and the schools may never reopen, but the game will go on

 
Ok guys, I'm busting out the all-white 1998 official kit over here. Speaking of busting out... it's oddly much smaller than when I won it in 1998.

 
Norman Paperman said:
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.
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I think there's zero chance we see a team without the combo of Bradley/Jones/Beckerman.

 
NewlyRetired said:
JaxBill said:
Grant Wahl says no flooding now that he's actually at stadium.
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Cool. Everyone has been waiting for a report from the stadium.
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Yeah, but it's vague. He doesn't explicitly mention any field conditions.

ETA - He says "Can see firsthand difference between 'FIFA-standard' and standard for ordinary Brazilians" so he might just be talking road conditions?

 
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The Gator said:
Norman Paperman said:
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.
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I think there's zero chance we see a team without the combo of Bradley/Jones/Beckerman.
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I think we see the exact same team that started against Portugal. Now's not the time to start experimenting.

 
otello said:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/world-cup-how-to-skip-work-to-watch-u-s-vs-germany-1403706187?mod=trending_now_1

World Cup: How to Skip Work to Watch U.S. vs. Germany Step-by-Step Instructions for Fleeing the Office and Taking in the All-Important Match

1. By now you probably know that Thursday, June 26, is a day off throughout the United States to watch the U.S. men's national soccer team play Germany at noon Eastern in a massively important World Cup contest.

2. This emergency bill was signed into law early this morning by U.S. Prime Minister Ryan Seacrest.

3. Need the time off from your job to watch the game? Simply cut this story out of the print edition of today's newspaper with a pair of scissors—or, if you don't know what the print edition of a newspaper is, pull it up to your smartphone or tablet. Show it to your boss, and the boss must reward you with Thursday off. Trust me on this. It's the law.

4. (And you might as well take Friday and make it a four-day weekend.)

5. Before watching the game, it's essential to have as American a breakfast as possible. This is left to you: Denny's or Waffle House. Just to be safe, you may as well go to both Denny's and Waffle House, but you might need to lie down in the back of the car later.

6. If you are a big fan of the USMNT, you need no introduction to the team, or the stakes against Germany. If you are new to following the USMNT, welcome, and here's a primer: This has been a thrilling run by the U.S. men's national team. Plunged into the "Group of Death," the most competitive bracket in the tournament, the USMNT has exceeded expectations already—beating rival Ghana and playing Portugal to a tie. Now the Americans have a chance to advance in the World Cup with a win or a tie against Germany, one of the planet's top clubs.

7. If that was too long to read, just watch the team in red, white, and blue, and scream for as long as possible.

8. Most U.S.A. place to watch the USMNT? That's easy. A bald eagle's nest.

9. If you get stuck at work—and sorry—it is totally fine to watch the game at your boss's desk with a 12-pack and a giant bucket of Buffalo wings.

10. If this is your first time watching soccer, you will be shocked how neat and compact a viewing experience this is. A soccer match seldom lasts longer than two hours. Two hours! That's how long it takes to play the last six minutes of an NBA playoff game.

11. Do not watch the game by yourself. Come on. Watching TV by yourself is for random nights when you want to binge-watch "House Hunters" while eating from a bag of frozen waffles.

12. If you are going to a local bar to watch the game, it's important to find out about the TV situation before you go. If the TV is not as big as Connecticut, find another bar.

13. This is a hugely critical high-demand game and you need to get to the bar or restaurant very early in order to secure a prime seat. I suggest getting there in April 2012.

14. Cocktails at noon? Cocktails at noon.

15. Do not be afraid to ask questions. Questions are good! How many minutes are in a half? What is stoppage time? How come there are no commercials? Will LeBron really go to the Cavaliers? Did Pearl Jam really sing "Let It Go" in a concert the other night?

16. With about 10 minutes left to play, just for a laugh, take the restaurant's remote and change the TV over to "Judge Judy." Everyone will think this is hilarious especially the guys in front in the face paint.

17. No Cristiano Ronaldo jokes. Too soon.

18. Many established soccer countries have songs and chants, but the U.S. is catching up. There's the "I Believe That We Will Win" chant, of course, which is infectious and fun. If you have run out of things to chant or sing, simply sing side one of Van Halen's "1984" while riding on the back of a Harley-Davidson.

19. No, biting does not happen in every game. That is only for special occasions.

20. Stay for the final 20 seconds of the game. Please. It's important. Stuff happens.

21. Can you believe the U.S. is on the verge of escaping the Group of Death and this country has World Cup fever? How great is this?
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Awesome.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Norman Paperman said:
What line up changes do we think we'll see? Almost seems like the prudent thing is to get some fresh legs in there, but not sure where we can afford to sub in.

I could see Wondo in the line up, was also thinking Mix in for Beckerman, and pushing Bradley to the back, but just not sure Mix is strong enough to battle the Germans in the midfield.
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Beckerman has to play. We might be able to get away with less defensive wingers because Ozil is a very different type of threat than Ronaldo or Atsu.
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Well, the thought was less about Beckerman, and more how to make Bradley more effective on tired legs - move him back in position where he will have to run less. Not sure how fit Davis is, and whether we would see him as one of the wide MFs. The only other change I could see is Chandler in for Beasley - again all subject to the fitness levels of the guys who went at it in Manaus.

 
I read a tweet where dozens of US fans had to abandon their cars about 17 miles from stadium and are going to try and walk there.

Hopefully all the US supporters were trying to meet very early at stadium to give them a chance to get there by half time.

 
Mjolnirs said:
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
Goals by league -update

EPL - 24

Bundesliga - 24

La Liga - 19

Serie A - 12

Ligue 1 - 9

Primeira Liga - 7

Liga MX - 5

MLS - 4

Russian Premier - 4

Eredivisie - 3

Brasileiro - 3

English Championship - 2

Argentine Primera - 1

Belgian Pro - 1

K League - 1

Honduran Liga Nacional - 1

UAE Arabian Gulf League - 1

Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 - 1

Turkish Süper Lig - 1

Greek Superleague - 1

Scottish Premier League - 1

Croatian Prva Liga - 1

Own goal (La Liga) -1

Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1

Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1
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I've enjoyed these updates. Any way you can compile by club?
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OK, I had a spreadsheet of the rosters from before the cup started and plugged the goals into that.My league totals are a little different, but I assume that is because of transfers and my list is older.

I have Bundesliga at 25, you have 24

I have EPL at 23, you have 24

I have Serie A at 10, you have 12

I have Eredivise at 4, you have 3

I have Greek Superleague at 2, you have 1

Using my numbers, and you can adjust for your updates: (pm me the transfers and I can update mine)

Bayern - 12

Barcelona - 9

Manchester United 8

Porto, Real Madrid - 4

Liverpool, Marseille, Monaco, Wolfsburg, Roma, Pachuca, Eindhoven - 3

14 clubs at 2

40 clubs at 1

 
@DougMacESPN: US Soccer spokesman says field at Arena Pernambuco in rainy Recife is "a little soft" but holding up surprisingly well. #USAvGER

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Is there a non-watchespn way to stream today's games? For some reason watchespn isn't accessible for DirecTV customers.
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For some reason, I was able to watch matches on Watch ESPN the last couple of days without logging in to a service provider. Now, when I really want to watch it online for today's USA match, it's requiring me to login via a service provider. Since I have Direct TV, I can't, so I guess Univision is my only option. :angry:

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Is there really evidence that heavy rains decrease goal scoring? Seems like it would just make the games sloppier.
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If there are puddles of water, the ball just stops in them. Pretty tough to score in those conditions.
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It is also tough to defend and play keeper in those conditions.
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actually easier to defend. have you ever tried kicking a ball sitting in a puddle of water?

 
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