*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[JAMES!]

Watching it again I think it's obvious the Wisc QB thought the whistle meant the ref stopped the clock. They all get up quickly to get ready to spike it and then the ref blows the whistle indicating that the ball was dead (The qb took a knee) NOT that they were stopping the clock. Then he realized the clock was running and tries to spike it but too late. Right after he starts yelling at the ref as to say I thought you stopped the clock. I don't know why he assumed the whistle meant a clock stoppage and not that the last play was over. That loss is on him.

No, it's not. It wouldn't have mattered if they were ready to run the play or not. The ASU player lying on the ball, and the umpire, never gave them a chance to run it.

They weren't trying to run it!

And again, that doesn't matter. It's inexcusable for the officials to allow the final 17 seconds to run off the clock without spotting the ball. Regardless of what Wisconsin was or wasn't doing (which was mostly a direct reaction of their confusion to what the officials were/weren't doing).

It was about 13 seconds. Wisconsin stands there for about 11 seconds until they realize they need to snap the ball, by then it was too late. Wisc o-lineman called a to as well.

 

[strykerpks]

And the cherry on the cake is Bilema's wife's tweet to finish the night...

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

I don't know why that bothers me but it does as I think BB was given everything he wanted at Wisconsin and left on his own accord.

Exactly. It shouldn't

 

[Pipes]

Bucky fan here. THey #### the bed. You kick the field goal, not run a play to the middle

It's fair to see it that way, but I don't see how they were wrong in what they were thinking. Kneel on the ball, 17 seconds, if the officials had acted properly, they would have had time to execute the end game as planned.

I get that. Sorry but I'm seeing a lot of vitriol on teh facebooks and twitters from my homer friends and it's getting out of hand. It boils down to one point. Kick the field goal and walk out of there with the win.

Buckys kickers aren't good so I can understand putting the ball in the best possible spot.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Watching it again I think it's obvious the Wisc QB thought the whistle meant the ref stopped the clock. They all get up quickly to get ready to spike it and then the ref blows the whistle indicating that the ball was dead (The qb took a knee) NOT that they were stopping the clock. Then he realized the clock was running and tries to spike it but too late. Right after he starts yelling at the ref as to say I thought you stopped the clock. I don't know why he assumed the whistle meant a clock stoppage and not that the last play was over. That loss is on him.

No, it's not. It wouldn't have mattered if they were ready to run the play or not. The ASU player lying on the ball, and the umpire, never gave them a chance to run it.

They weren't trying to run it!

I don't think that matters. If a team is in the huddle and a player from the opposing team picks up the ball and holds it, I think that's still a violation. Again, I think.

 

[strykerpks]

Bucky fan here. THey #### the bed. You kick the field goal, not run a play to the middle

It's fair to see it that way, but I don't see how they were wrong in what they were thinking. Kneel on the ball, 17 seconds, if the officials had acted properly, they would have had time to execute the end game as planned.

I get that. Sorry but I'm seeing a lot of vitriol on teh facebooks and twitters from my homer friends and it's getting out of hand. It boils down to one point. Kick the field goal and walk out of there with the win.

Buckys kickers aren't good so I can understand putting the ball in the best possible spot.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Bucky fan here. THey #### the bed. You kick the field goal, not run a play to the middle

It's fair to see it that way, but I don't see how they were wrong in what they were thinking. Kneel on the ball, 17 seconds, if the officials had acted properly, they would have had time to execute the end game as planned.

I get that. Sorry but I'm seeing a lot of vitriol on teh facebooks and twitters from my homer friends and it's getting out of hand. It boils down to one point. Kick the field goal and walk out of there with the win.

Buckys kickers aren't good so I can understand putting the ball in the best possible spot.

Yes. NFL teams center the ball for the kickers all the time, and they don't have to deal with the wide hashmarks that they have in college. French hasn't exactly been rock solid.

 

[Raider Nation]

I uploaded a longer clip, including the sequence prior to the ending, and the commentary after it ended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0htS6d0T4

 

[Pipes]

Bucky fan here. THey #### the bed. You kick the field goal, not run a play to the middle

It's fair to see it that way, but I don't see how they were wrong in what they were thinking. Kneel on the ball, 17 seconds, if the officials had acted properly, they would have had time to execute the end game as planned.

I get that. Sorry but I'm seeing a lot of vitriol on teh facebooks and twitters from my homer friends and it's getting out of hand. It boils down to one point. Kick the field goal and walk out of there with the win.

Buckys kickers aren't good so I can understand putting the ball in the best possible spot.

What's so funny?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I uploaded a longer clip, including the sequence prior to the ending, and the commentary after it ended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0htS6d0T4

Great title!

 

[Raider Nation]

I uploaded a longer clip, including the sequence prior to the ending, and the commentary after it ended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0htS6d0T4

Great title!

Don't miss the description!

 

[JAMES!]

You can't just lay on top of the ball regardless of what the offense is doing.

He thought the ball was live. the ref blew the whistle to indicate the ball was not live and the play was over. If Wisc was right there trying to snap it I'd agree a delay could be called but they're just standing there thinking the clock wasn't running. Bottom line, Wisc incorrectly assumed the clock was stopped. I don't know how not a single player on the field didn't see that the clock was moving. They're all oblivious. Somebody should have been jumping up and down, pointing at the clock

Doesn't matter what he thought. The officials should have seen that it wasn't (because Stave did take a knee). If he had picked up the ball and started running in the other direction, would it have been OK to just let the clock keep running because he thought it was a live ball?

No, but he didn't do that. The ref blew the whistle to alert the players the play was dead. Then wisc just stood there for no reason and let the clock run out.

But the officials' lack of action after blowing the play dead is what cost Wisconsin the chance to run another play. Why can't you see that?

(Wasn't rooting for either team, for full disclosure.)

Wisconsin wasn't trying to run a play. They were acting as if the clock was stopped and would be resumed once the ball was spotted. There's 4 seconds on the clock and the Wisconsin players are just standing there looking at each other. The whole sequence is wacky. I hear your argument that the ref could have moved things along but why would wisc even take that chance with such little time left? And after taking a knee how can those players just stand there with no sense of urgency? If they're trying to get up on the line and snap it I'd agree but they're just standing around spaced out.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I uploaded a longer clip, including the sequence prior to the ending, and the commentary after it ended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0htS6d0T4

Great title!

Don't miss the description!

Missed that.

 

[The Kerminator]

You can't just lay on top of the ball regardless of what the offense is doing.

He thought the ball was live. the ref blew the whistle to indicate the ball was not live and the play was over. If Wisc was right there trying to snap it I'd agree a delay could be called but they're just standing there thinking the clock wasn't running. Bottom line, Wisc incorrectly assumed the clock was stopped. I don't know how not a single player on the field didn't see that the clock was moving. They're all oblivious. Somebody should have been jumping up and down, pointing at the clock

Doesn't matter what he thought. The officials should have seen that it wasn't (because Stave did take a knee). If he had picked up the ball and started running in the other direction, would it have been OK to just let the clock keep running because he thought it was a live ball?

No, but he didn't do that. The ref blew the whistle to alert the players the play was dead. Then wisc just stood there for no reason and let the clock run out.

But the officials' lack of action after blowing the play dead is what cost Wisconsin the chance to run another play. Why can't you see that?

(Wasn't rooting for either team, for full disclosure.)

Wisconsin wasn't trying to run a play. They were acting as if the clock was stopped and would be resumed once the ball was spotted. There's 4 seconds on the clock and the Wisconsin players are just standing there looking at each other. The whole sequence is wacky. I hear your argument that the ref could have moved things along but why would wisc even take that chance with such little time left? And after taking a knee how can those players just stand there with no sense of urgency? If they're trying to get up on the line and snap it I'd agree but they're just standing around spaced out.

They can't run a play if the ball is never spotted. Are they just supposed to line up where they think the ref is going to spot the ball?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Anyone putting that on Wisconsin is either a troll or an idiot.

The official is plainly holding his hand up telling Wisconsin to wait as the clock expires.

 

[Christo]

What level dooooosh bag would wear a Bama shirt to a Purdue/ND game?

I don't see the problem.

 

[Christo]

And the cherry on the cake is Bilema's wife's tweet to finish the night...

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

I don't know why that bothers me but it does as I think BB was given everything he wanted at Wisconsin and left on his own accord.

John Beck

 

[Christo]

You can't just lay on top of the ball regardless of what the offense is doing.

He thought the ball was live. the ref blew the whistle to indicate the ball was not live and the play was over. If Wisc was right there trying to snap it I'd agree a delay could be called but they're just standing there thinking the clock wasn't running. Bottom line, Wisc incorrectly assumed the clock was stopped. I don't know how not a single player on the field didn't see that the clock was moving. They're all oblivious. Somebody should have been jumping up and down, pointing at the clock

Doesn't matter what he thought. The officials should have seen that it wasn't (because Stave did take a knee). If he had picked up the ball and started running in the other direction, would it have been OK to just let the clock keep running because he thought it was a live ball?

No, but he didn't do that. The ref blew the whistle to alert the players the play was dead. Then wisc just stood there for no reason and let the clock run out.

But the officials' lack of action after blowing the play dead is what cost Wisconsin the chance to run another play. Why can't you see that?

(Wasn't rooting for either team, for full disclosure.)

Wisconsin wasn't trying to run a play. They were acting as if the clock was stopped and would be resumed once the ball was spotted. There's 4 seconds on the clock and the Wisconsin players are just standing there looking at each other. The whole sequence is wacky. I hear your argument that the ref could have moved things along but why would wisc even take that chance with such little time left? And after taking a knee how can those players just stand there with no sense of urgency? If they're trying to get up on the line and snap it I'd agree but they're just standing around spaced out.

It's like you didn't even watch what happened.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I uploaded a longer clip, including the sequence prior to the ending, and the commentary after it ended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0htS6d0T4

Great title!

Don't miss the description!

Missed that.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I don't know how you can blame the officials. That was totally on Wisconsin players. Brain fart. Nobody knew the clock was running.

You obviously didn't watch the end. The screen ticker on ESPN this morning sums it up perfectly : An ASU player laid on the ball for 10 seconds and the Official prevented Wisconsin from snapping the ball"

Exactly what happened.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Woke up this morning expecting this to be big news on ESPN, it isn't unfortunately.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Watching it again I think it's obvious the Wisc QB thought the whistle meant the ref stopped the clock. They all get up quickly to get ready to spike it and then the ref blows the whistle indicating that the ball was dead (The qb took a knee) NOT that they were stopping the clock. Then he realized the clock was running and tries to spike it but too late. Right after he starts yelling at the ref as to say I thought you stopped the clock. I don't know why he assumed the whistle meant a clock stoppage and not that the last play was over. That loss is on him.

You say you rewound it. If that's true how the hell can you not see the ref standing over the ball with his hand out preventing WI from getting to the line and snapping the ball??

You're a blind AZ homer, or you're just being ignorant.

 

[Jayded]

The other side of the ASU/Wisconsin craziness is the new rule this year: You have to have three seconds to spike the ball. By the time the official got the ASU player off of the ball, even if Wisconsin had been ready to act, it'd have been too late given the new rule.

 

[Slapdash]

Feel bad for Wisconsin fans. They got screwed by the refs and their play caller.

18 seconds and no timeouts, you kick the ####### field goal.

 

[Slapdash]

The other side of the ASU/Wisconsin craziness is the new rule this year: You have to have three seconds to spike the ball. By the time the official got the ASU player off of the ball, even if Wisconsin had been ready to act, it'd have been too late given the new rule.

It is a stupid rule, but many refs had been enforcing it on their own for years.

 

[Pipes]

Feel bad for Wisconsin fans. They got screwed by the refs and their play caller.

18 seconds and no timeouts, you kick the ####### field goal.

The refs had no problem spotting the ball quickly for ASU's hurry up offense all night.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Feel bad for Wisconsin fans. They got screwed by the refs and their play caller.

18 seconds and no timeouts, you kick the ####### field goal.

The refs had no problem spotting the ball quickly for ASU's hurry up offense all night.

Slapdash is right. Just kick the damn FG and win the game.

But even during the play Wisconsin did several things wrong. The QB should have gone down and then handed the ball to the official to help him spot the ball quickly. When ASU laid on the ball the Wisconsin players should have been raising hell about it forcing the officials to blow the whistle and figure out what is going on.

Yeah, the officials screwed that play up royally but Wisconsin did nothing to help themselves either.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

18 seconds is plenty of time to center the ball and then clock it. It's done frequently both in college and the NFL.

 

[Jayded]

The other side of the ASU/Wisconsin craziness is the new rule this year: You have to have three seconds to spike the ball. By the time the official got the ASU player off of the ball, even if Wisconsin had been ready to act, it'd have been too late given the new rule.

It is a stupid rule, but many refs had been enforcing it on their own for years.

Absolutely agree. Was just noting that specifically since it's noted as a rule this year, the referees complicated the situation even further by allowing ASU to lay on the ball until there wasn't an option to spike it.

If I was Wisconsin's coach, before that play is the moment where I have to be absolutely certain my QB knows the situation. In case something crazy happens and we have to snap it with two seconds left, you can't spike the ball.

 

[bagger]

I don't know how you can blame the officials. That was totally on Wisconsin players. Brain fart. Nobody knew the clock was running.

You obviously didn't watch the end. The screen ticker on ESPN this morning sums it up perfectly : An ASU player laid on the ball for 10 seconds and the Official prevented Wisconsin from snapping the ball"

Exactly what happened.

ttsymfh:

 

[sho nuff]

Badgers got jobbed out of a chance to win that game.

You can't have a guy laying on the ball...and an official telling the offense to wait.

Anyone claiming Wisconsin was not lined up is an idiot...the Oline is there standing waiting for the ball to be spotted.

 

[bagger]

Badgers got jobbed out of a chance to win that game.

You can't have a guy laying on the ball...and an official telling the offense to wait.

Anyone claiming Wisconsin was not lined up is an idiot...the Oline is there standing waiting for the ball to be spotted.

 

[gump]

 

[sho nuff]

Badgers got jobbed out of a chance to win that game.

You can't have a guy laying on the ball...and an official telling the offense to wait.

Anyone claiming Wisconsin was not lined up is an idiot...the Oline is there standing waiting for the ball to be spotted.

The truth bothers you doesn't it?

As someone else said...this team is not going to win a title...but they still got jobbed by idiots working the field.

No matter how much Stave screwed up...they had plenty of time to spot the ball and get the spike done.

 

[wazoo11]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

 

[The Kerminator]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

Classy by Jen Bielema. Does she forget that her hubby recruited most of the WI players and they gave blood and sweat for her hubby so he could turn his back on them?

 

[The Commish]

How does Wisconsin end up playing at Arizona State tonight? Not exactly natural rivals.

This was the beginning of the scheduling between the P12 and the B1G that was going to be yearly....think ACC vs B1G challenge in basketball.

 

[Christo]

So who does Mack fire today?

 

[Christo]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

Classy by Jen Bielema. Does she forget that her hubby recruited most of the WI players and they gave blood and sweat for her hubby so he could turn his back on them?

How old is Jen? Bret looks like he could be her Dad.

 

[prefontaine]

Agreed. I drank too much yesterday before the game and forgot to put on sunscreen. Feeling it today. Not sure how it looked on tv but that it was a fantastic environment. Really glad I went as it was a great tailgate and fun game.

Also really happy to see we beat Kansas yet again.

 

[Premier]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

Classy by Jen Bielema. Does she forget that her hubby recruited most of the WI players and they gave blood and sweat for her hubby so he could turn his back on them?

How old is Jen? Bret looks like he could be her Dad.

 

[scottybo]

13 Miller Lites last night. I feel pretty darn good.I think I passed out at 7:30, however.

 

[Premier]

13 miller lights is like 2.5 real beers.

 

[gump]

Agreed. I drank too much yesterday before the game and forgot to put on sunscreen. Feeling it today. Not sure how it looked on tv but that it was a fantastic environment. Really glad I went as it was a great tailgate and fun game.Also really happy to see we beat Kansas yet again.

I heard the environment was great...loud....greatbtudent section....also that the stadium needs the upgrade badly and the seats were really small. I'll be there in a few weeks for the Auburn game.

 

[bentley]

Just in case I didn't say this last night...

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bentley]

Agreed. I drank too much yesterday before the game and forgot to put on sunscreen. Feeling it today. Not sure how it looked on tv but that it was a fantastic environment. Really glad I went as it was a great tailgate and fun game.Also really happy to see we beat Kansas yet again.

I heard the environment was great...loud....greatbtudent section....also that the stadium needs the upgrade badly and the seats were really small. I'll be there in a few weeks for the Auburn game.

Those seats are narrow so they could claim a bigger seating capacity than the University of Texas at one point.

 

[gump]

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=gamedayFinal0915

Before the second quarter of Oregon's 59-14 thrashing of Tennessee could even end, Twitter was abuzz with reports that Ducks fans were already chanting "We want Bama!" inside Autzen Stadium. By the fourth quarter, those chants must have been deafening as news of Alabama's shootout with Texas A&M seeped into Eugene.

If the football gods are on our side, we'll finally get our Alabama-Oregon national championship. And if Saturday is any indicator, it could be quite the send-off for the BCS in Pasadena, Calif.

 

[General Malaise]

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=gamedayFinal0915

Before the second quarter of Oregon's 59-14 thrashing of Tennessee could even end, Twitter was abuzz with reports that Ducks fans were already chanting "We want Bama!" inside Autzen Stadium. By the fourth quarter, those chants must have been deafening as news of Alabama's shootout with Texas A&M seeped into Eugene.

If the football gods are on our side, we'll finally get our Alabama-Oregon national championship. And if Saturday is any indicator, it could be quite the send-off for the BCS in Pasadena, Calif.

Oregon needs to get past Washington, Stanford and UCLA before they can even consider a match up with Bama. Oregon fans - and here I am one - are the epitome of 'new money'.

 

[General Malaise]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

Classy by Jen Bielema. Does she forget that her hubby recruited most of the WI players and they gave blood and sweat for her hubby so he could turn his back on them?

My god, Wisconsin fans are attacking her like an angry Ike Turner. Good lord....some good woman bashing going on on the Tweets.

 

[The Commish]

13 Miller Lites last night. I feel pretty darn good.I think I passed out at 7:30, however.

After 13 ML??? I must really be a lush.

 

[Guest]

https://twitter.com/jenbielema/status/379126996401258496

Classy by Jen Bielema. Does she forget that her hubby recruited most of the WI players and they gave blood and sweat for her hubby so he could turn his back on them?

How old is Jen? Bret looks like he could be her Dad.

She's kinda hot.