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[Beerguzzler]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

 

[FDAS]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

 

[Guest]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

No sure about that. Expectations are sky-high (MNC high) as is the pressure from the fans and media. Think about big-time boosters breathing down your neck at other schools, then multiply that by 10 at Texas. Expectations at UCLA are to compete for the conference every-so-often. LA does not have Texas pressure.

Talking to people that went to the game, they said even when UCLA was down 21-3 the players were still out there dancing around, having fun and playing loose. If Mora is successful and having fun at UCLA, he will get paid. Why leave?

 

[gump]

I thought Mora was more Muschamp than Neuheisel?

 

[culdeus]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

No sure about that. Expectations are sky-high (MNC high) as is the pressure from the fans and media. Think about big-time boosters breathing down your neck at other schools, then multiply that by 10 at Texas. Expectations at UCLA are to compete for the conference every-so-often. LA does not have Texas pressure.

Talking to people that went to the game, they said even when UCLA was down 21-3 the players were still out there dancing around, having fun and playing loose. If Mora is successful and having fun at UCLA, he will get paid. Why leave?

There are parallels in other sports as well. Kentucky came calling for Gillespie from a 3rd tier basketball school with some small success. Guy flames out in 2 years and is basically fired into the sun. There is some risk in that, no matter the money involved that you could end up holding nothing but a suitcase and your #### in your hands if you bomb at a top tier program.

Now throw on top of that the network they have and the time commitment the coach has to pay to that. Its like taking two full time jobs.

It's absolutely not a slam dunk that a 2nd/3rd tier upcoming HC just jumps up and takes the gig.

 

[prefontaine]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

No sure about that. Expectations are sky-high (MNC high) as is the pressure from the fans and media. Think about big-time boosters breathing down your neck at other schools, then multiply that by 10 at Texas. Expectations at UCLA are to compete for the conference every-so-often. LA does not have Texas pressure.

Talking to people that went to the game, they said even when UCLA was down 21-3 the players were still out there dancing around, having fun and playing loose. If Mora is successful and having fun at UCLA, he will get paid. Why leave?

There are parallels in other sports as well. Kentucky came calling for Gillespie from a 3rd tier basketball school with some small success. Guy flames out in 2 years and is basically fired into the sun. There is some risk in that, no matter the money involved that you could end up holding nothing but a suitcase and your #### in your hands if you bomb at a top tier program.

Now throw on top of that the network they have and the time commitment the coach has to pay to that. Its like taking two full time jobs.

It's absolutely not a slam dunk that a 2nd/3rd tier upcoming HC just jumps up and takes the gig.

you guys are crazy. Mora is the exact type of coach Texas is going to go after. The idea that he will "get paid" at UCLA just isn't realistic. Wiki shows his salary at $1.9m btw. The discrepency is likely tv appearances, etc but all coaches get that stuff. That makes UCLA one of the lowest paid major schools out there and they are located in one of the highest cost of living areas.

The UCLA AD revenue was $66m last year and they subsidized from academics to break even. They simply can't pay him the way other schools can. And they can't get into a bidding war especially given the contract they just handed Alford. Mack Brown makes $5.3m. His assistants probably make more than UCLA's whole staff including Mora. To be blunt, if Texas pursues Mora, it would be shocking if he doesn't accept.

 

[Guest]

you guys are crazy. Mora is the exact type of coach Texas is going to go after. The idea that he will "get paid" at UCLA just isn't realistic. Wiki shows his salary at $1.9m btw. The discrepency is likely tv appearances, etc but all coaches get that stuff. That makes UCLA one of the lowest paid major schools out there and they are located in one of the highest cost of living areas.

The UCLA AD revenue was $66m last year and they subsidized from academics to break even. They simply can't pay him the way other schools can. And they can't get into a bidding war especially given the contract they just handed Alford. Mack Brown makes $5.3m. His assistants probably make more than UCLA's whole staff including Mora. To be blunt, if Texas pursues Mora, it would be shocking if he doesn't accept.

Now we are back to it all being about money without addressing some of the things culdeus brought up. You have to admit there are downsides to the Texas job. Texas needs a CEO more than a coach.

ETA: I think Mora would be a great get for any school. I would gladly trade the entire Nebraska coaching staff for the staff at UCLA.

 

[prefontaine]

I'm not at all saying it's all about money. It's not. But you are kidding yourself if you don't think it's a major factor. We're not talking about a few bucks more here. I imagine UT would offer in the $3.5m range and give him another $3m to hire assistants (which btw was a primary factor in Beliema leaving Wisky for Arkansas). He'd personally get more press which helps him in whatever he wants to do going forward. He'd also be taking over a team with a lot higher ceiling. I don't think the media stuff or being fired would worry a guy like Mora. NFL guys deal with that sort of stuff all the time.

 

[gump]

I'm not at all saying it's all about money. It's not. But you are kidding yourself if you don't think it's a major factor. We're not talking about a few bucks more here. I imagine UT would offer in the $3.5m range and give him another $3m to hire assistants (which btw was a primary factor in Beliema leaving Wisky for Arkansas). He'd personally get more press which helps him in whatever he wants to do going forward. He'd also be taking over a team with a lot higher ceiling. I don't think the media stuff or being fired would worry a guy like Mora. NFL guys deal with that sort of stuff all the time.

I agree...which is what I meant by more Muschamp than Neuheisel. He's been a HC in the NFL...can't imagine much intimidates him.

 

[GDogg]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

No sure about that. Expectations are sky-high (MNC high) as is the pressure from the fans and media. Think about big-time boosters breathing down your neck at other schools, then multiply that by 10 at Texas. Expectations at UCLA are to compete for the conference every-so-often. LA does not have Texas pressure.

Talking to people that went to the game, they said even when UCLA was down 21-3 the players were still out there dancing around, having fun and playing loose. If Mora is successful and having fun at UCLA, he will get paid. Why leave?

There are parallels in other sports as well. Kentucky came calling for Gillespie from a 3rd tier basketball school with some small success. Guy flames out in 2 years and is basically fired into the sun. There is some risk in that, no matter the money involved that you could end up holding nothing but a suitcase and your #### in your hands if you bomb at a top tier program.

Now throw on top of that the network they have and the time commitment the coach has to pay to that. Its like taking two full time jobs.

It's absolutely not a slam dunk that a 2nd/3rd tier upcoming HC just jumps up and takes the gig.

you guys are crazy. Mora is the exact type of coach Texas is going to go after. The idea that he will "get paid" at UCLA just isn't realistic. Wiki shows his salary at $1.9m btw. The discrepency is likely tv appearances, etc but all coaches get that stuff. That makes UCLA one of the lowest paid major schools out there and they are located in one of the highest cost of living areas.

The UCLA AD revenue was $66m last year and they subsidized from academics to break even. They simply can't pay him the way other schools can. And they can't get into a bidding war especially given the contract they just handed Alford. Mack Brown makes $5.3m. His assistants probably make more than UCLA's whole staff including Mora. To be blunt, if Texas pursues Mora, it would be shocking if he doesn't accept.

I'm not sure why Wiki shows his salary at $1.9M, but that's not accurate. The Mercury News and L.A. Times have him at $2.4M and $2.5M, respectively. Although, the Mercury News report was prior to the contract extension Mora signed in July.

In addition, UCLA just reached new highs for assistant salaries totaling $2.442M, which will need to continue to increase.

Thus far, UCLA has met every salary demand that Mora has made, both for himself and for his assistants (see the L.A. Times article above). That being said, I already said I was skeptical they'd continue to meet them, but people a lot closer to the UCLA AD than I believe that the AD, after the last decade plus of dog#### football and basketball, is willing to pay to keep the staff around.

And, while the revenue you cited is certainly low, it's also coming off a decade plus of awful coaching and football, which plays at least some part in the low revenue stream and a huge part in the lower donations. It also is based off the lower revenues that the Pac-12 schools are receiving from the TV contract. Those will go up in the next few seasons.

UCLA can't outbid Texas. I'm pretty sure nobody can. One of the main reasons UCLA can't is that there is apparently some ridiculous UC Regents salary cap for head coaching salaries. I believe it is $3M right now. That needs to change, obviously.

Jim Mora may leave at some point and it may be for Texas. I have no idea. He has no ties to UCLA other than the last two years and having been around the program as a kid when his dad was on the UCLA staff.

But, UCLA can offer a few things that very few schools can. As noted above, there are no sky high expectations. The UCLA fanbase has been beaten down and just wants to win. It doesn't expect to win national championships, though, and doesn't demand it. It has a beautiful campus in a beautiful area. That area also happens to sit on one of the most talent-rich, if not THE most talent-rich, areas for football in the country. And, as 6 out of the last 7 years have shown, UCLA can, even with a terrible product on the field, bring in top 10-12 ranked recruiting classes each year.

So, UCLA offers a low stress job with the opportunity to bring in a great deal of talent each year (which is what it takes to win consistently) pretty easily. As long as UCLA can pay a competitive salary to the HC and staff, those factors should make it a pretty appealing job.

 

[General Malaise]

Funny how fast Jim Mora went from NFL failure to NCAA hot commodity.

Texas should try and lure Jimmy Johnson out of retirement.

 

[GDogg]

I'm not at all saying it's all about money. It's not. But you are kidding yourself if you don't think it's a major factor. We're not talking about a few bucks more here. I imagine UT would offer in the $3.5m range and give him another $3m to hire assistants (which btw was a primary factor in Beliema leaving Wisky for Arkansas). He'd personally get more press which helps him in whatever he wants to do going forward. He'd also be taking over a team with a lot higher ceiling. I don't think the media stuff or being fired would worry a guy like Mora. NFL guys deal with that sort of stuff all the time.

In their second year at cash-poor UCLA, UCLA is paying Mora $2.5M himself and $2.442M for his assistants.

I'm not sure UCLA, as a UC school, would be able to give Mora the $1M extra for himself (despite apparently having the cash to do so), but $558K more total for his assistants doesn't seem like a huge bump after the $340K they were willing to bump their salaries after a 9-5 season.

 

[prefontaine]

why Mike Leach contineus to be the most entertaining person in college football. At yesterday's presser he gave dating tips.

“Try to have somewhere where there’s not salad, because girls will try to show off and act like all they eat is salad, so try to put them somewhere where they’re in a position where they have to put real food in their mouth… Because if you can make her eat she’ll talk. Other than that it’s all this pretention and stuff like that. The key thing is make her eat, then she’ll relax, then there’ll be some dialogue and you can get to know her and see if you’re interested in dating her beyond dinner.” Leach told those gathered, according to The Spokesman-Review. It was the same mantra he offered a Texas Tech freshman when asked a similar question five years ago.
Read more at http://www.lostlettermen.com/mike-leach-offers-more-dating-advice/#wwpQdvVMxxIqyGCv.99

 

[dparker713]

One of the main reasons UCLA can't is that there is apparently some ridiculous UC Regents salary cap for head coaching salaries. I believe it is $3M right now. That needs to change, obviously.

Yeah, why would a state school in a bankrupt state decide that a man that contributes nothing to the education of 40,000 or so students have his salary capped at about 60 times the median household income? Priorities people!

 

[GDogg]

One of the main reasons UCLA can't is that there is apparently some ridiculous UC Regents salary cap for head coaching salaries. I believe it is $3M right now. That needs to change, obviously.

Yeah, why would a state school in a bankrupt state decide that a man that contributes nothing to the education of 40,000 or so students have his salary capped at about 60 times the median household income? Priorities people!

It's not about priorities. If the Regents want to put a cap on the amount a coach can receive from the UC pool, then that's fine. But, it's apparently a blanket cap. Schools are (from what I've been told and read) not allowed to subsidize the salaries of coaches with donor money to get around the cap.

If Casey Wasserman wants to give Jim Mora $1M to coach football at UCLA, he can't if Jim Mora's salary is $2.1M or above.

 

[dparker713]

One of the main reasons UCLA can't is that there is apparently some ridiculous UC Regents salary cap for head coaching salaries. I believe it is $3M right now. That needs to change, obviously.

Yeah, why would a state school in a bankrupt state decide that a man that contributes nothing to the education of 40,000 or so students have his salary capped at about 60 times the median household income? Priorities people!

It's not about priorities. If the Regents want to put a cap on the amount a coach can receive from the UC pool, then that's fine. But, it's apparently a blanket cap. Schools are (from what I've been told and read) not allowed to subsidize the salaries of coaches with donor money to get around the cap.

If Casey Wasserman wants to give Jim Mora $1M to coach football at UCLA, he can't if Jim Mora's salary is $2.1M or above.

He could instead just pay him $1M to be on a podcast once a month.

 

[GDogg]

One of the main reasons UCLA can't is that there is apparently some ridiculous UC Regents salary cap for head coaching salaries. I believe it is $3M right now. That needs to change, obviously.

Yeah, why would a state school in a bankrupt state decide that a man that contributes nothing to the education of 40,000 or so students have his salary capped at about 60 times the median household income? Priorities people!

It's not about priorities. If the Regents want to put a cap on the amount a coach can receive from the UC pool, then that's fine. But, it's apparently a blanket cap. Schools are (from what I've been told and read) not allowed to subsidize the salaries of coaches with donor money to get around the cap.

If Casey Wasserman wants to give Jim Mora $1M to coach football at UCLA, he can't if Jim Mora's salary is $2.1M or above.

He could instead just pay him $1M to be on a podcast once a month.

That's a really good idea.

 

[Raider Nation]

Texas should try and lure Jimmy Johnson out of retirement.

But not until next season.

 

[pollardsvision]

Saw Jim Mora's name for the first time on the Texas board.

What are they saying about him?

They want him. I was hoping for a statement from Tim.

I'm glad they'd want him. It most likely means others think he's doing a good job.

The problem here with being a Bruin fan is obvious - that other schools probably think they can get him. UCLA fans have not any delusions of poaching Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc. from the top programs.

I'd assume Texas makes a run at him. He makes $2.5M at UCLA right now and supposedly they are prepared to pay what it will take to retain him and his staff (particularly OL coach, Adrian Klemm). Then again, they said they'd pay what it would take to get a top flight basketball coach, too...

Doesn't make sense to leave UCLA for Texas. If he's going anywhere, he's going back to the NFL. That said I hope he stays put for a few years to get the program back on it's feet and running a solid system.

It makes sense to leave about 99% of the programs in the nation for Texas, UCLA included.

No sure about that. Expectations are sky-high (MNC high) as is the pressure from the fans and media. Think about big-time boosters breathing down your neck at other schools, then multiply that by 10 at Texas. Expectations at UCLA are to compete for the conference every-so-often. LA does not have Texas pressure.

Talking to people that went to the game, they said even when UCLA was down 21-3 the players were still out there dancing around, having fun and playing loose. If Mora is successful and having fun at UCLA, he will get paid. Why leave?

Back when I was young and naive, I thought a lot of those same thoughts.

Then that #######ed turncoat mother####er hightailed his ### down to Austin in a U-Haul full of cash and a smile on his face, leaving us in the good hands of Carl Torbush.

 

[timschochet]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

 

[Raider Nation]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

 

[Raider Nation]

We need to get some other stuff ranked by JERKOFF COLIN COWHERD.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Sadly, college football is not a big deal here in New England. But here are the schools the region's three FBS teams will be hosting over the next two weekends:

Vanderbilt

Michigan

Florida State

 

[bosoxs45]

Sadly, college football is not a big deal here in New England. But here are the schools the region's three FBS teams will be hosting over the next two weekends:

Vanderbilt

Michigan

Florida State

It would be if BU or northeastern had a football team.

 

[The Commish]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I'd tread lightly with the Cowherd stuff....this is the same guy that said handsome boys make better quarterbacks. Not sure he's exactly rooted in level headedness these days.

 

[RUSF18]

Any Arkansas fans here -- what's the word on your QB situation? Rutgers might be missing the starting QB as well.

 

[The Commish]

TWIS

 

[shader]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

 

[Slapdash]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

Don't feed the trolls

 

[prefontaine]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

If you are talking "best" jobs you may need to define that. Because the best job is fairly arbitrary. For instance if all 3 of those jobs were to open tomorrow with all equal pay I'd probably rank them in inverse order that Cowherd does. And I'd say that only UGA is currently a top 10 job. Today.

There are many inherent advantages to all 3. But I wouldn't want to take the Texas job at all and I'd be hesitant to consider USC. But that's because I'm a rational thinker and consider the odds of success. Almost no coach does. They mostly are so arrogant that they assume they will succeed no matter what and look at jobs in a vacuum. It's why a guy like Rich Rodriguez took the Michigan job. Or Howard Schnellenberger took OU. Or why Dan Hawkins took the CU job. Or why Brett Beliema took the Arkansas job.

Those are all good jobs. But the difference between Watson Brown and Mack Brown is little more than which jobs they chose. One brother is going to the hall of fame and one is a laughing stock. Almost every elite coach out there took the right job at the right time in his career path and never once walked into a situation set up for failure. I think Cowherd's top two jobs are set up for failure right now.

 

[Guest]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

Does the head job a Georgia come with a membership to Augusta National?

 

[gump]

A USC search this December would be interesting. You'll hear names like Gruden and Fisher...but Kiffin has that roster in a very bad position thru '15...so would a guy like those mentioned want to take that on now? Seems like a better for an up-and-comer...which may not be the splash USC fans would want.

 

[GDogg]

A USC search this December would be interesting. You'll hear names like Gruden and Fisher...but Kiffin has that roster in a very bad position thru '15...so would a guy like those mentioned want to take that on now? Seems like a better for an up-and-comer...which may not be the splash USC fans would want.

Jack Del Rio is the other guy a lot of Southern Cal people are talking about.

 

[GDogg]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

If you are talking "best" jobs you may need to define that. Because the best job is fairly arbitrary. For instance if all 3 of those jobs were to open tomorrow with all equal pay I'd probably rank them in inverse order that Cowherd does. And I'd say that only UGA is currently a top 10 job. Today.

There are many inherent advantages to all 3. But I wouldn't want to take the Texas job at all and I'd be hesitant to consider USC. But that's because I'm a rational thinker and consider the odds of success. Almost no coach does. They mostly are so arrogant that they assume they will succeed no matter what and look at jobs in a vacuum. It's why a guy like Rich Rodriguez took the Michigan job. Or Howard Schnellenberger took OU. Or why Dan Hawkins took the CU job. Or why Brett Beliema took the Arkansas job.

Those are all good jobs. But the difference between Watson Brown and Mack Brown is little more than which jobs they chose. One brother is going to the hall of fame and one is a laughing stock. Almost every elite coach out there took the right job at the right time in his career path and never once walked into a situation set up for failure. I think Cowherd's top two jobs are set up for failure right now.

Why would the odds of success be greater at Georgia than at Texas or Southern Cal? It's the bolded portion that is the reason I think most people see those two jobs as arguably the two best (and some consider the Texas job #1 in all sports).

Texas and Southern Cal sit in hotbeds of homegrown recruiting talent. Southern Cal has probably the most talent within a 40 mile radius of its camps than any school in the country. And, they both are more than willing to pay whatever it takes to win, which includes facilities and coaching staffs. Their schools value the football program and are willing to invest tons of resources into it.

I hate Southern Cal, but along with Texas, (and sanctions) the only reason for those two schools not to be ranked in the Top 5 or 10 and in contention for the MNC every year is piss poor staff decisions (which encompasses, coaching, development and talent evaluation, along with recruiting).

 

[GDogg]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

And, I'm not sure it would matter in his thinking (I'd guess it would not), but it would be pretty uncomfortable for Mora on September 13, 2014, to be wearing burnt orange and white on the sideline opposite the 70 or so UCLA players that he recruited in next year's game at Cowboys Stadium.

 

[General Malaise]

Call me a pie in the sky idealist, but I like to think Jim Mora owes it to UCLA to stick around. The guy was an abject failure in Seattle and nobody wanted a piece of him. UCLA gave him a life line and he's resurrected a career that was, for all intents and purposes, in the toilet. And look...it's not like UCLA is Stanford. They got thumped by Baylor in the Holiday Bowl last year and though I think this season is promising, let's tap the brakes in anointing Mora with Coach of the Year honors. Three years ago, if you floated a "Mora to Texas" rumor out on a message board, you would have been laughed off of the internet. Texas is desperate. And reaching. Big time. I hope Mora sticks around Pasadena. I'd like to think he has more integrity than Nick Saban.

 

[timschochet]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

Don't feed the trolls

You're the one being a troll when you post stuff like this.

 

[culdeus]

Lol at any list putting Georgia in the top 3 coaching destinations when it isn't top 3 in it's own conference.

 

[timschochet]

According to Cowherd, the reason Georgia was up there in the top 3 is:

1. Big football program with lots of revenue (more than the Florida schools Shader mentioned)

2. Reasonable fan base- they want to win, but they don't call for removal after any loss

3. Athens- one of the best places to live in America.

OK, its Cowherd, and a lot of people don't like him. I found his argument, in this instance, to be somewhat compelling. (Though I don't know much about Athens outside of the music scene.)

 

[pollardsvision]

Call me a pie in the sky idealist, but I like to think Jim Mora owes it to UCLA to stick around. The guy was an abject failure in Seattle and nobody wanted a piece of him. UCLA gave him a life line and he's resurrected a career that was, for all intents and purposes, in the toilet. And look...it's not like UCLA is Stanford. They got thumped by Baylor in the Holiday Bowl last year and though I think this season is promising, let's tap the brakes in anointing Mora with Coach of the Year honors. Three years ago, if you floated a "Mora to Texas" rumor out on a message board, you would have been laughed off of the internet. Texas is desperate. And reaching. Big time. I hope Mora sticks around Pasadena. I'd like to think he has more integrity than Nick Saban.

Definitely an idealist approach, but I wouldn't be shocked either way.

When the call from Austin comes, leaving will always be a strong possiblity.

I think UCLA's a great job. A lot like UNC (which will also be sweating it's coach going to Texas......again). Both have had that sleeping giant tag for a while now. Great public schools with highly successful all-around sports programs. UCLA's probably got a little easier road to turning the recruiting tide, but both can get the players with the right coach.

I'd love for Mora to stay. I'd love for all these guys to stay. Then again, that's what everyone thinks until they need a coach.

 

[Guest]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

And, I'm not sure it would matter in his thinking (I'd guess it would not), but it would be pretty uncomfortable for Mora on September 13, 2014, to be wearing burnt orange and white on the sideline opposite the 70 or so UCLA players that he recruited in next year's game at Cowboys Stadium.

He should probably avoid all of that an come to Nebraska.

 

[General Malaise]

Georgia is the 9th ranked team in the country. Ain't it a little premature to call that a vacant coaching position?

 

[General Malaise]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

And, I'm not sure it would matter in his thinking (I'd guess it would not), but it would be pretty uncomfortable for Mora on September 13, 2014, to be wearing burnt orange and white on the sideline opposite the 70 or so UCLA players that he recruited in next year's game at Cowboys Stadium.

He should probably avoid all of that an come to Nebraska.

You want Scott Frost. You NEED Scott Frost.

 

[Slapdash]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

Don't feed the trolls

You're the one being a troll when you post stuff like this.

I was referring to Cowherd. It is pointless to debate a list by some ESPN talking head. But, good point, that applies to you as well.

 

[timschochet]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

Right now he's getting paid 2.5 million. If Texas wanted to, they could double that. They can pay a coach whatever they want- their amount of income is obscene compared to every other school in the country.

It's not just Mora- whomever Texas wants would likely strongly consider it.

 

[timschochet]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

Texas and USC have huge recruiting advantages, which I suppose is why they are on the list. But Georgia seems strange to me. Top 10? Yeah, probably. But why would Georgia be a better school than Florida, Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma?

Alabama will be a nightmare job when Saban leaves so I'm not going to throw them in the mix, as the expectations are at a point where the future will have another 2 decades of angry people longing for the Saban days.

But what makes Georgia better than Florida?

Don't feed the trolls

You're the one being a troll when you post stuff like this.

I was referring to Cowherd. It is pointless to debate a list by some ESPN talking head. But, good point, that applies to you as well.

 

[Guest]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

And, I'm not sure it would matter in his thinking (I'd guess it would not), but it would be pretty uncomfortable for Mora on September 13, 2014, to be wearing burnt orange and white on the sideline opposite the 70 or so UCLA players that he recruited in next year's game at Cowboys Stadium.

He should probably avoid all of that an come to Nebraska.

You want Scott Frost. You NEED Scott Frost.

I don't need Scott Frost. Seriously the guy should hang out in Oregon for a couple more years.

 

[General Malaise]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

Right now he's getting paid 2.5 million. If Texas wanted to, they could double that. They can pay a coach whatever they want- their amount of income is obscene compared to every other school in the country.

It's not just Mora- whomever Texas wants would likely strongly consider it.

There's more to life than money. Especially for guys who have it.

 

[General Malaise]

Hope I'm wrong, but if Texas came calling for Mora, I think there's a good chance he'd leave. For once FDAS is right; Texas is the number #1 job for college football coaches in the country- period.

Colin Cowherd today ranked the top 3:

1. Texas

2. USC

3. Georgia

Pretty much agree with this.

I don't know whether he would or would not leave for Texas, but why do you think there's a good chance he would leave?

And, I'm not sure it would matter in his thinking (I'd guess it would not), but it would be pretty uncomfortable for Mora on September 13, 2014, to be wearing burnt orange and white on the sideline opposite the 70 or so UCLA players that he recruited in next year's game at Cowboys Stadium.

He should probably avoid all of that an come to Nebraska.

You want Scott Frost. You NEED Scott Frost.

I don't need Scott Frost. Seriously the guy should hang out in Oregon for a couple more years.

I'd like him to, but he won't. He will be one of the hottest sought after coaches in the country after Oregon wins the national title this year.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

According to Cowherd, the reason Georgia was up there in the top 3 is:

1. Big football program with lots of revenue (more than the Florida schools Shader mentioned)

2. Reasonable fan base- they want to win, but they don't call for removal after any loss

3. Athens- one of the best places to live in America.

OK, its Cowherd, and a lot of people don't like him. I found his argument, in this instance, to be somewhat compelling. (Though I don't know much about Athens outside of the music scene.)

Aren't Georgia fans notorious for being a little irrational toward Richt?

Like, for instance, this one?