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bg > OklahomaMy *wishful thinking* 8 team playoff bracket.
1. Florida State
8. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Alabama
3. Stanford
6. Baylor
2. Auburn
7. Central Florida
bg > OklahomaMy *wishful thinking* 8 team playoff bracket.
1. Florida State
8. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Alabama
3. Stanford
6. Baylor
2. Auburn
7. Central Florida
#### you're wonderful holiday musical compilation.I must have missed this last night.
I did too, a lot to keep up with last night.Those were the toughest calls. I'd put OSU in before Missouri, probably replacing UCF but not OU.Replace Ou with MissouriMy *wishful thinking* 8 team playoff bracket.
1. Florida State
8. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Alabama
3. Stanford
6. Baylor
2. Auburn
7. Central Florida
Replace Central Florida with Ohio State
Then you'd have one hell of a tournament.

That may be true, but who has Missouri really beaten? I said prior to the SECCG their SOS was a bit of a smoke screen. They have "quality " wins vs. only UGA and Texas AM. The UGA win is a sham though seeing how injured UGA was. OU has a far better win than either of those by beating Okie St. I'd rank their win over ND as a better win than the UGA win as well. Auburn dismantled Missouri last night. The score was closer than it should have been thanks to fumbles by Auburn.What is OU's case for being in the top 8? They got absolutely run out of the gym by Texas and Baylor. If you watched the Ok State game yesterday, OU got run over, but was somehow able to win on special teams. I've seen nothing from OU that would put them in my top 12. There are about 4 or 5 other schools I put in before OU.Those were the toughest calls. I'd put OSU in before Missouri, probably replacing UCF but not OU.Replace Ou with MissouriMy *wishful thinking* 8 team playoff bracket.
1. Florida State
8. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Alabama
3. Stanford
6. Baylor
2. Auburn
7. Central Florida
Replace Central Florida with Ohio State
Then you'd have one hell of a tournament.
Okay. Agree to disagree I guess. But if I'm FSU and have to play the 8th best team in the country in the opening round, I'd much, much rather play OU than any of these: Ohio State, Missouri, South Carolina, Clemson, Oregon, or even Ok State or LSU.That may be true, but who has Missouri really beaten? I said prior to the SECCG their SOS was a bit of a smoke screen. They have "quality " wins vs. only UGA and Texas AM. The UGA win is a sham though seeing how injured UGA was. OU has a far better win than either of those by beating Okie St. I'd rank their win over ND as a better win than the UGA win as well. Auburn dismantled Missouri last night. The score was closer than it should have been thanks to fumbles by Auburn.What is OU's case for being in the top 8? They got absolutely run out of the gym by Texas and Baylor. If you watched the Ok State game yesterday, OU got run over, but was somehow able to win on special teams. I've seen nothing from OU that would put them in my top 12. There are about 4 or 5 other schools I put in before OU.Those were the toughest calls. I'd put OSU in before Missouri, probably replacing UCF but not OU.Replace Ou with MissouriMy *wishful thinking* 8 team playoff bracket.
1. Florida State
8. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Alabama
3. Stanford
6. Baylor
2. Auburn
7. Central Florida
Replace Central Florida with Ohio State
Then you'd have one hell of a tournament.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. I'm sure FSU was happy they were going to play either; OSU, Auburn or Missouri in the BCS title game instead of Bama, too.Okay. Agree to disagree I guess. But if I'm FSU and have to play the 8th best team in the country in the opening round, I'd much, much rather play OU than any of these: Ohio State, Missouri, South Carolina, Clemson, Oregon, or even Ok State or LSU.
Hell yes. Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout with a little lying down? Great beer as the booze (10%abv I believe) subsides as does the roasted malt.I had new Belgium in copious amounts in SoCal, it's brand new here in Miami. Total Wines builds massive NB displays and they are gone inside of a couple days, was surprised to grab it. I think it blows away Fat Tire, I'm gonna have to stock up for the next few months.Steve Tasker said:Only had that once, about a month ago. Nice beer. I'd buy it if we got it on the shelves here.Ministry of Pain said:You even got me to call out the person who liked your post. I bit down hook, line and sinker.Steve Tasker said:Yes, I'm drunk, but it was a joke.
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Oh and I ran to grab an Accumulation Ale since obviously I'm not drunk enough.
Have you had the Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout? I buy several cases and actually put them away for a year, the beer tastes even better after it's been on those bottles a while. Beer guy at the store tipped me off on this. I'm about to start drinking the 2012 edition.
auburn is horrendous vs the pass.Auburn +9.5 vs. FSU right now.
Seems awful high.
Yeah, but they are averaging 336 yds rushing per game.auburn is horrendous vs the pass.Auburn +9.5 vs. FSU right now.
Seems awful high.
noles should hang 50. don't think auburn can keep up.Yeah, but they are averaging 336 yds rushing per game.auburn is horrendous vs the pass.Auburn +9.5 vs. FSU right now.
Seems awful high.
Auburn averages 40.2 per game. They can keep up.noles should hang 50. don't think auburn can keep up.Yeah, but they are averaging 336 yds rushing per game.auburn is horrendous vs the pass.Auburn +9.5 vs. FSU right now.
Seems awful high.
Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.
Agreed. I think the top 6 are pretty clear. 7 - 12 are cloudy as hell.We should really get to an 8 team playoff with 5 conference champions and 3 best remaining teams.
Florida St
Auburn
Michigan St
Baylor
Stanford
Alabama
Ohio St
Missouri
Don't really care how they get seeded.
They really should be moving towards 4 super-conferences in football, each with a conference championship, creating a de facto 8-team playoff.We should really get to an 8 team playoff with 5 conference champions and 3 best remaining teams.
Florida St
Auburn
Michigan St
Baylor
Stanford
Alabama
Ohio St
Missouri
Don't really care how they get seeded.
They need to keep a few at large... In the situation you describe, a team like Alabama wouldn't make the playoffThey really should be moving towards 4 super-conferences in football, each with a conference championship, creating a de facto 8-team playoff.We should really get to an 8 team playoff with 5 conference champions and 3 best remaining teams.
Florida St
Auburn
Michigan St
Baylor
Stanford
Alabama
Ohio St
Missouri
Don't really care how they get seeded.
Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it? FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.
You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.
Good job, Sparty. Nice looking team you've got. Connor Cook is a good looking qb. Your defense is tough.
GL in the rose bowl
Kind of doubt FSU was -6 without Weinke. Maybe they were. Doesn't really matter for this game, except to give 5-7 Tennessee fan something to be happy about for once.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.
MSU in the title game

Kind of doubt FSU was -6 without Weinke. Maybe they were. Doesn't really matter for this game, except to give 5-7 Tennessee fan something to be happy about for once.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
if you knew me IRL you'd know my blood doesn't exactly run orange. Go to one game every other year. I think I watched 4-5 games this season. Their 5-7 record is unfortunate but It's of no real consequence, but it is cute seeing you guys throwing those "5-7" darts over and over thinking they're hitting home.
I'm just here for the lulz.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.
Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
What are you talking about?This is the time when all the crappy SEC teams fans jump on the Auburn bandwagon as if being in a good conference makes their team suck less.
For the record, I have no idea what the line was. I was just pointing out that any situation was and is reflected in betting lines.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
That is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
You were a Noles fan back then, right?
FSu was favored because they had been a top 6 Goliath for a long time and had Peter Warwick, among others. Tennessee was just off of a very fortunate win against Arkansas in the sec title game. In hindsight, the vols had the far superior team, particularly with weinke out.That is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
"With Warrick and FSU's defense - statistically the nation's best - many assumed the Noles needed only average play from Outzen to win. Tennessee was the undefeated SEC Champion...but Florida State was a six point favorite."
SB nation article
Wikipedia page stating FSU by 5.5:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Fiesta_Bowl
You don't actually believe FSU were dogs in that game do you?You were a Noles fan back then, right?
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TypoThat is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
"With Warrick and FSU's defense - statistically the nation's best - many assumed the Noles needed only average play from Outzen to win. Tennessee was the undefeated SEC Champion...but Florida State was a six point favorite."
SB nation article
Wikipedia page stating FSU by 5.5:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Fiesta_Bowl
You don't actually believe FSU were dogs in that game do you?You were a Noles fan back then, right?
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Your rebuttal is a Vols fan board and a wiki page you could have edited.Wait... you, Noles Superfan, ACTUALLY believes FSU were dogs in that game?!TypoThat is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
"With Warrick and FSU's defense - statistically the nation's best - many assumed the Noles needed only average play from Outzen to win. Tennessee was the undefeated SEC Champion...but Florida State was a six point favorite."
SB nation article
Wikipedia page stating FSU by 5.5:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Fiesta_Bowl
You don't actually believe FSU were dogs in that game do you?You were a Noles fan back then, right?
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Your rebuttal is a Vols fan board and a wiki page you could have edited.
S.E.C.! S.E.C.!What are you talking about?This is the time when all the crappy SEC teams fans jump on the Auburn bandwagon as if being in a good conference makes their team suck less.
I still have no idea what you are talking about.S.E.C.! S.E.C.!What are you talking about?This is the time when all the crappy SEC teams fans jump on the Auburn bandwagon as if being in a good conference makes their team suck less.
Shhhhh don't you dare come in here with facts... Superfan Capella distinctly remembers his Noles being underdogs to the mighty Vols that gameFSu was favored because they had been a top 6 Goliath for a long time and had Peter Warwick, among others. Tennessee was just off of a very fortunate win against Arkansas in the sec title game. In hindsight, the vols had the far superior team, particularly with weinke out.That is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
"With Warrick and FSU's defense - statistically the nation's best - many assumed the Noles needed only average play from Outzen to win. Tennessee was the undefeated SEC Champion...but Florida State was a six point favorite."
SB nation article
Wikipedia page stating FSU by 5.5:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Fiesta_Bowl
You don't actually believe FSU were dogs in that game do you?You were a Noles fan back then, right?
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So? They lost and couldn't make their conference title game. They are, at best, by definition, the third best team in the SEC.They need to keep a few at large... In the situation you describe, a team like Alabama wouldn't make the playoffThey really should be moving towards 4 super-conferences in football, each with a conference championship, creating a de facto 8-team playoff.We should really get to an 8 team playoff with 5 conference champions and 3 best remaining teams.
Florida St
Auburn
Michigan St
Baylor
Stanford
Alabama
Ohio St
Missouri
Don't really care how they get seeded.
Shhhhh don't you dare come in here with facts... Superfan Capella distinctly remembers his Noles being underdogs to the mighty Vols that gameFSu was favored because they had been a top 6 Goliath for a long time and had Peter Warwick, among others. Tennessee was just off of a very fortunate win against Arkansas in the sec title game. In hindsight, the vols had the far superior team, particularly with weinke out.That is a typo... FSU were ~6pt favorites. Being a Noles super fan I'm surprised you don't know that.Espn says UT was favored by 5.5 actually. Quality made up #### as always dude.You're right, but that would have been reflected in the line.Maybe you forgot that Weinke missed that game due to injury and the Noles had to play their awful backup. Yeah that was it...Anyone remember the line for the 1998 BCS Championship Game? FSU -6 was it?FSU had a pretty good defense that year too... first nationally in passing and total defense, second in rushing and scoring defense? Yeah that was it...FSU by 2 TDs at least.@RizzWrites: FSU went from -7 to -10 in four minutes.![]()
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bcslist/090108
"With Warrick and FSU's defense - statistically the nation's best - many assumed the Noles needed only average play from Outzen to win. Tennessee was the undefeated SEC Champion...but Florida State was a six point favorite."
SB nation article
Wikipedia page stating FSU by 5.5:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Fiesta_Bowl
You don't actually believe FSU were dogs in that game do you?You were a Noles fan back then, right?
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ok guy. Marcus Outzen started that game. If Winston gets hurt this spread also probably flips to AU -1.Ya they were good all year.The guys I feel sorry for are the 4 seniors on the o line. Even Buckeye fans doubted them before the season. In the end, they were the most powerful unit on the team and maybe one of the best lines in the country.
You really don't understand how betting lines work, do you? The -5.5 point line had Outzen factored in, dude.ok guy. Marcus Outzen started that game. If Winston gets hurt this spread also probably flips to AU -1.
Indeed. Warrick ran his mouth incessantly leading up to the game. Nice statline he put upI remember it well. I would have much rather played undefeated k state (who screwed that up by losing to a and m) and was sufficiently terrified of FSu - even without weinke - as to watch the game by myself at a bar in a bowling alley.
Good times.